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Diana Birkett-rakow
Senior Vice President of Public Affairs & Sustainability - Alaska Airlines Inc, ALASKA AIR GROUP INC

Diana Birkett Rakow of Alaska Airlines joins Spotlight Hawaii

🎥 Jul 21, 2023 📺 Star-Advertiser ⏱ 35m 👁 264 views
Diana Birkett Rakow of Alaska Airlines joins the Honolulu Star-Advertiser's “Spotlight Hawaii” livestream show at 10:30 a.m. today ...
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About Diana Birkett-rakow

Diana Birkett-Rakow, Senior Vice President of Public Affairs and Sustainability at Alaska Airlines, has spoken about the company's goal of reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2040. She has described a five-part path to achieve this, including operational efficiency, sustainable aviation fuel, electrified aircraft, and carbon removal projects. Birkett-Rakow stated that the company has integrated a carbon efficiency metric into its annual employee incentive pay program and has created an investment fund, Alaska Star Ventures, to support emerging technologies. She has also discussed the company's efforts to engage consumers on sustainability, such as a platform that allows guests to view flight emissions and purchase sustainable aviation fuel credits. Birkett-Rakow has addressed the company's operations and hiring in Hawaii, noting that Alaska Airlines has increased frequency to Honolulu and has about 600 employees across the islands. She has discussed the company's support for the "Malama Hawaii" initiative, which encourages responsible tourism, and its signing of a student-developed pledge focused on environmental stewardship. Regarding industry challenges, she has expressed optimism about aviation's future, citing increased innovation and collaboration among government, consumers, technologists, and investors. She has also noted that the company is hiring pilots and investing in training programs to address workforce needs.

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Transcript (44 segments)
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Narrator0:05
Come to talk and to take your questions live. From the nation's capital to Honolulu Hale, from the state legislature to the fifth floor. We bring the experts to you and ask them what you want to know. Spotlight Hawaii with Yunji Denise and Ryan Kalei Tsuji on the digital platforms of the Honolulu Star Advertiser.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji0:34
Well, happy aloha Friday. We have made it to the end of another week here. I'm Ryan Kalei Tsuji joined by Yunji Denise and this is Spotlight Hawaii on the digital platforms of the Honolulu Star Advertiser. This morning, we spotlight our tourism industry and get a unique perspective from one of the key players here in the Hawaii market.
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Yunji Denise0:50
That's right. We are speaking today with Diana Birkett Rocco. She is senior vice president of public affairs and sustainability at Alaska Airlines which of course has plenty of direct flights to Hawaii. We've got a lot to talk about. Diana, thanks for being here.
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Diana Birkett-rakow1:02
Thanks, Eugene, Ryan. It's great to see you again.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji1:08
Well, good to see you. We are right in the middle of summer travel. So, very interested to hear on what you're seeing in the tourism industry and the appetite of tourists outside of Hawaii for our islands.
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Diana Birkett-rakow1:22
Yeah, I will just start with summer has been very, very, very busy. It's fantastic to see people come back to the skies and this really is in some ways the first summer sort of since COVID that we don't have any restrictions and folks are really traveling again. Just a couple of fun things. Between June 29th and July 5th over the July 4th holiday, our team welcomed one million people on board and actually on June 30th, the single day we flew the most passengers in a single day in our entire 90 year history. So it's actually been really exciting. The best part though, and the part that I think our teams feel so good about, is that we have more than 99% completion rate. We have 85% on time rate for this quarter that just closed for Q2 and that's the highest in the industry and we're actually the only airline at those levels of completion and on time. So that's just really the metrics that we use to make sure that we're delivering great service to our guests which is our highest priority.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji2:36
You know, now in the tourism industry, when we're looking at some of these numbers, it's very easy now to compare what we saw pre-pandemic to what we're seeing now. What can you tell us about the rebound that has happened? How things are looking for Alaska Airlines specifically with the Hawaii flights post-pandemic and as we move on beyond, when comparing say to 2019?
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Diana Birkett-rakow2:59
Yeah, it's a great question. So, what's exciting is we are seeing real rebound in travel. Our airplanes during July are about 90% full on average across our system. So, if you think there are some routes probably to smaller communities or more rural areas that might not be full, that might be 50 or 60 or 70% full and then there's a ton of airplanes that are 100% full. So, you know, you're probably experiencing that when you get on board and we ask for our guests' patience with those full flights but they really are a sign of return to travel and help us balance out access to communities where the loads might be smaller as well. Leisure demand is back above pre-pandemic levels. So, that's really returned very fast. Corporate travel has come back. It's hovered about, plateaued at about 70 to 80% of pre-pandemic levels and one of the interesting trends we're seeing is we call it bleisure, but it's people that are traveling for work and might tack on a long weekend or might tack on a visit to go see family and actually just get the most out of that travel experience. So, those are some of the trends that we're seeing.
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Yunji Denise4:14
That's so interesting, bleisure. Well, how do we get those bleisure travelers to come to Hawaii? I'm interested to know what you're seeing in terms of, we know that Hawaii is a beautiful place and a lot of people want to come here but is that still continuing to be the narrative or are visitors finding other places to go?
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Diana Birkett-rakow4:31
You know, I think both are true. The fact that leisure has come back above pre-pandemic levels means that still people have very high interest in traveling to and from Hawaii, but also, we've got interest in a lot of destinations. We actually just in the last 2 weeks announced non-stop flights to the Bahamas and to Guatemala, which we're really excited about. Guatemala and the Bahamas are both two new countries and two new sort of dots on the map for us. New dots on the map are really fun for an airline because it means you get to expand your horizons but we are seeing strong leisure demand really across the country and to Mexico, Central America, as well as ongoing to Hawaii. I think we've increased our frequency to Honolulu but try to make sure that the most importantly is that the flight times work for folks. So, we are seeing really high loads to Honolulu and that maybe because the fact that there's just a broader array of hospitality options, of hotel options across a variety of price points and people can have different kinds of experiences. And then we've also put some focus on making sure that for the Hawaii resident traveler that our flight times are better for not just getting to the West Coast but potentially accessing beyond the West Coast destinations without having to deal with the red eye coming going. So, we've got an early morning flight out of Honolulu now and we've got an 8 PM flight back from Seattle now so that people can really optimize their workday and business trips both directions. Yeah, it's exciting and we want to make sure that people continue to travel to Hawaii and that they do so with a lot of curiosity and respect and that they're the right kind of traveler coming to Hawaii as well.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji6:24
Yeah, I want to dive a little bit more into that flight times because I think that is something that may not seem significant or maybe a little in the weeds but when you think about it, that could have a significant impact about when flights are coming and going. Talk about that decision to kind of accommodate those flight times. Was that something that was done internally? Was that something that you heard from Hawaii residents? How did that shift happen to make those sort of changes in the flight times that you felt would accommodate more people?
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Diana Birkett-rakow6:54
It's a great question. A little bit of both. So, we are always looking at our schedule and you know, running an airline is like a five-dimensional Tetris game all of the time or something because you're trying to get the airplanes to connect in the right places, to be in the right places, to connect with crews coming from different places and obviously, to match up with passenger demand. So, we're always looking at those connection points and revising every quarter to make sure that we're optimizing in as many places as possible and as you can imagine, you move something over here, you impact something else over here. But we also have heard that the ability to get to the West Coast from Hawaii and then connect beyond without being stuck on a red eye across the country is really important, as well as that ability to have a full day on the West Coast or elsewhere in the United States but still be able to get home at night. And so those are a couple of changes that we made for that reason.
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Yunji Denise7:52
You know, you talked about those new international destinations but of course we're focused on what's happening here at home. We know that in November you're launching another new direct flight to an airport in the Seattle area. If you could tell us a little bit about that and the thinking that went into that decision.
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Diana Birkett-rakow8:04
Sure. Well, that's a particularly exciting one. It's actually going to be the longest route from that airport. That airport is called Paine Field and if you think about Seattle, sort of being in the center of a big region, SeaTac, the airport that most people think about, is on the south end of that region and Paine Field is on the north end. And actually from where I live in the middle, they are equidistant and depending on traffic, one could be more favorable than the other. So, it's really nice to have options. So being able to offer both leisure and business travelers an option from the north end of the city is a really big difference and just to get more traffic coming through that airport. We also, SeaTac is incredibly busy as are many of the airports in Hawaii and so trying to figure out how to balance that out across different parts of our infrastructure is really important.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji8:57
Want to get to the topic of sustainable tourism or regenerative tourism. There is a conversation that is happening here locally with many tourism officials trying to find ways to attract a different type of visitor to the islands. I'm wondering if you can speak from Alaska's standpoint how you may be also trying to find and fit into that narrative as Hawaii officials try to look to market Hawaii differently.
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Diana Birkett-rakow9:16
Absolutely. And we really appreciate being part of the conversation over the last couple of years really about shifting from simply destination marketing to destination management. The way that we think about that and our responsibility in that conversation is to help educate our guests and help provide as many opportunities as possible for our guests to come to the islands with the right sort of orientation around wanting to learn, wanting to contribute, wanting to give back, and wanting to be most importantly respectful. And ideally to be regenerative in that way of leaving Hawaii better than they found it. Some of the ways that we do that, we actually have materials that we share in our pre-trip emails. We have some content in our inflight entertainment system. And also that we put through a lot of our other communication channels to put information in front of our guests to help them think about some of those issues, both from an environmental sustainability standpoint as well as a cultural learning and experiences standpoint. The other thing, last time I remember we were together, maybe it was two years ago, we were talking about the pledge to our keiki, and we have used that as a platform along with Kanu to connect people to experiences and to ways of thinking about and even just prompting our guests and asking them to sign the pledge. It is a way of bringing them into this conversation to learn more. And part of it is just making sure that folks are thinking about it, then part of it is ensuring that wherever possible we can provide opportunities for them to take action on what they've learned.
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Yunji Denise11:02
Yeah, you're right. That was right when that was sort of an initiative that you were getting involved in. If you could remind our audience what the pledge is and tell us a little bit, since you've had some time now to roll that out, what the response has been like?
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Diana Birkett-rakow11:14
Absolutely. Well, it's a pledge that is hosted by Kanu Hawaii and it was developed by students in Hawaii who were thinking about what they wanted for the future and inviting others to have responsibility to take care of that future and to make sure that that future for them and for future generations were protected. And so we signed on to the pledge and we committed as part of signing on to get others to sign on. And so we've brought it to our guests. We did a big sort of activation in the San Francisco Airport one day during Earth Month last year to help educate people that were coming and going through the airport with a big version of the pledge and actually had people physically sign and had some music and hula and other things to welcome people into that conversation. And then we are continuing to work with Kanu to bring the pledge. For example, it was launched throughout Hawaii public schools and bringing other stakeholders into that conversation. So we're excited about where this is going to go. It's one really important lever in the conversation. It's not an endpoint though. It's a way of galvanizing conversation and then what we need is for people to not just sign the pledge but take action accordingly and be conscious of their own choices.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji12:49
You know, I'm wondering as you talk about this pledge with Kanu Hawaii and the impact that Alaska Airlines has made in the community, the amount of engagement, the things that the airline continues to do for the community because they've become such a big presence here with local non-profits and partnerships. But when you look at Alaska Airlines as a whole, Hawaii is just one market compared to many other markets that you also fly to. I'm wondering, do you folks do this in all those markets, in all the destinations that you travel, or is Hawaii a little different because of the cultural sensitivity and the different types of things that embody Hawaii? How do you manage that with each destination or is Hawaii somewhat unique in that regard?
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Diana Birkett-rakow13:29
Yeah, I love that question. Thanks for asking it. Every place is unique. I mean, that's one of the things about not just our country but the places that we fly. But we do, I mean, it's sort of in our ethos to, and we talk about, and they're actually usually presented in a circle, taking care of all of those who depend on us. And those stakeholders include our employees, our guests, our communities, and our owners. And so across our business, our business is run and designed in a way that takes care of all of those stakeholders. And they have to be in balance in order for our company to sustain and take care of everybody for the long term. So that's the origin behind our level of community engagement. And it is something that we do in all of our major areas of operation and where we have employees. And sometimes it's more organized and sometimes it's more grassroots if it's an area where we have maybe smaller operations in Florida or something like that. Each place though, and it's one of the things that drew me to working at Alaska Airlines, how we show up in communities. The level of commitment is consistent but how we do it is responsive to what's important for that community. So, there's some key themes. We engage on environmental sustainability issues everywhere but that may look a little bit different in the state of Alaska or in the Arctic obviously than it does in the state of Hawaii. And so, we work on tailoring our approach to meet the local needs wherever they may be.
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Yunji Denise15:07
I'm interested. You did mention up at the top some pretty impressive numbers when it comes to flight completions, getting from A to B and actually getting there, and also the arrival times. I'm wondering about employees because so many industries have had such a hard time. We talk about it all the time here on this show just in the context of the city and county of Honolulu and the vast vacancies they have there but it's not just the public sector. You hear it from local businesses to everything from large corporations to a restaurant just trying to make sure that they have enough staff to make the food and serve it. What are some of the employee challenges that you're facing right now and are there also opportunities perhaps for Hawaii residents to find a job?
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Diana Birkett-rakow15:46
Yeah, it's a great question. There are both challenges and opportunities. There are a lot of jobs available and figuring out the right way to reach people and the right way to train people into them is certainly an ongoing topic. So, we are hiring people all over our system at really unprecedented levels partly because a lot of people took retirement during the pandemic or as you noted may have shifted locations in their lives, may have shifted career paths, maybe looking for more part-time work and so we're trying to be flexible in thinking about meeting people where they are and getting into careers. Our one big focus is hiring pilots and that's been a big topic of conversation across the country. We are hiring about 400 pilots this year. One thing that has shifted, that's about 100 more than we hired last year. We've hired about 284 of them year to date. So, we're more than halfway through about halfway through the year which is great. But the thing that we started to do uniquely in the last few years is actually invest in our own training programs to train pilots from the very beginning of their careers rather than leaving that to chance and helping them get through that long journey. In Hawaii, we have a number of entry-level positions available. In particular, across some of the airports that we work out of, we are looking for leadership positions. So, lead or supervisor positions for people who want to get into a management role or work on leadership in their career. But we've got 30 entry-level positions available in Kona right now, 25 in Lihue, and 20 on Maui. So, just a couple of examples of ways that people can get into the business. And one fun thing about the airline business is you can start one place and you can move geographically but you can also move to all these different career opportunities within the industry or within the company which is pretty fun.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji17:53
I want to head back to the conversation we're having about destination management. There have been a lot of things happening here locally with Hawaii Tourism Authority and some of the disagreements that have been happening with that body and the Hawaii state legislature and there is that sense of uncertainty right now about what the future of HTA looks like. I'm wondering from your perspective as Alaska Airlines, do you believe that HTA is an important body for the management of tourism in Hawaii and just your overall thoughts on the importance and significance of that organization and its role in your day-to-day operations?
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Diana Birkett-rakow18:26
Yeah, it's a great question. Well, we have a great relationship with the HTA and have for a number of years. For many years, but we really do appreciate that leadership in shifting from destination marketing to destination management and really cultivating the right kind of tourism in Hawaii. And that doesn't happen overnight and it isn't an easy journey but we appreciate the path that they've laid out and we look forward to working with both the Hawaii Convention and Visitors Bureau as well as with the Council on Native Hawaiian Advancement because both have incredible skill sets that we really need in this journey. I think how we take care of the places that we travel to and that we live in is going to be an increasingly critical conversation and so we just really appreciate the leadership in making sure that we are having those conversations and moving forward.
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Yunji Denise19:21
You know, it's interesting because in your title, obviously, sustainability is a huge part of what you do and I'm interested in what kind of benchmarks you're using when you're trying to figure out how you are caring for a destination, how you are being part of that conversation. We know that you do the annual care report for Alaska Airlines. It has a variety of benchmarks, environmental and otherwise. But if you could talk a little bit about how you figured that out and how you know that you're on the right path.
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Diana Birkett-rakow19:51
Yeah, it's a great question. And Ryan, that question you asked me earlier about sort of, how do we do these things everywhere, is Hawaii special? And I sort of said, we do these things everywhere and Hawaii is special. One of the core ethos in our business came from the fact that we were born in the state of Alaska serving very rural communities and very air service dependent communities and we still do. We serve 20 communities in the state of Alaska, only three of which are accessible by road. And if you think about that, that's a lot of people that we take care of that are really dependent on us and dependent on making it accessible. And increasingly, there's been a conversation about how do we not just make air travel accessible but how do we make sure that it is doing the right thing for communities, for people, both our guests and our employees, and for the climate and the land and the ocean. And so the metrics that we hold ourselves by are guided by those categories. We have metrics in terms of employment. We have metrics in terms of the diversity of our leadership, reflecting the diversity of our frontline employees so that people can see themselves in leadership and be willing to stay and continue to evolve their careers. We have metrics around safety. We have metrics around community giving. And one in particular, a goal around a certain level of employee volunteerism from within our employee base showing that willingness to give back. And then on the climate and environment side, we have goals around carbon, our carbon emissions, which are our number one environmental impact as an airline, our waste and water, and restoring clean and healthy water. So those three areas have some sub-goals within them. One of which is actually a path to net zero carbon emissions that we've outlined with a goal of reaching that zero by 2040. And there's a lot of work behind that and we are taking it one step at a time but really committed to making progress toward that ultimate destination.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji22:00
Early we talked about this added destination coming out of Seattle and that direct coming to the islands. I'm wondering just when you look at the future of the Hawaii market and just the potential that is there, do you foresee any other routes or is there any strong demand for say a neighbor island or does Honolulu continue to be the number one destination? I mean, what are some of the things that you're looking at when trying to establish if a new route is necessary and if there's anything that you're already seeing right now?
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Diana Birkett-rakow22:29
It's a great question. So, one of the things that we have always been proud of in terms of how we serve Hawaii from the West Coast and Hawaii residents is having those direct flights from all four islands that we serve to destinations up and down the West Coast. And so there is a lot of demand for flights in the Honolulu but we will never move away from that direct service because we know it's really important. I think as we go forward, part of what we look at is where do people want to go, what times do they want to go, and where might they be connecting from or to and how do our flights work into the overall ecosystem. One of the things that we did during the pandemic is we actually joined the One World Alliance. So, now we can connect more seamlessly and have reciprocal loyalty benefits with the airlines that are part of the One World Alliance, like American, JAL, Qantas in particular, that serve Hawaii. And so, one other thing that we look at now is how do our flights intersect with some of those other partners' flights.
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Yunji Denise23:46
I'm interested in that. That's JAL is a favorite among the One World. I'm interested also in as we look at how work patterns have changed and how just how we live has changed, do you see that there are these sort of banner seasons? You know that summer is really busy, the holidays are really busy. But how we work has changed. Do you think that the travel seasons are now spread out a little bit longer? Or are we seeing these concentrations that are typical that we've expected year over year?
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Diana Birkett-rakow24:19
That's such an excellent question. They are more spread out and yet, one thing that is true is summer is busy. Seasonality, different people go different places sometimes in the summer than they may during the spring or fall seasons. One thing that is consistent that we're really working on is the period right after the Christmas and New Year holiday is really tough. Many have traveled. They're not traveling yet for the new business cycle. They're not traveling yet again for leisure. And so we've tried to focus on where do we put our airplanes during that time that makes sense, where people want to go. And so that's where we've really leaned into. We've called it sort of a sun and ski destination, but including these new destinations I mentioned, and connection to the Bahamas and to Guatemala, where people may be going to visit friends and family or to take a vacation sort of off cycle if especially if you don't have kids in school or you're not bound by some of those schedule restrictions. So, we're playing with a few things to make sure that we're using our airplanes in the right way.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji25:17
You know, this maybe a pretty broad question but I'm just wondering what you're seeing as a whole when it comes to the aviation industry. We're just seeing a lot more news reports about some of the challenges that airlines are facing right now just with customer demand, not having adequate staffing for some flights, some delays that are happening. There's just a lot that seemingly happens in this industry. What are some of the things that you folks are noticing not only with regards to Hawaii but overall nationwide and how Alaska has to navigate through some of these changes and challenges of the aviation industry?
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Diana Birkett-rakow25:53
It's a great question. So, I feel like I should not go out or something but right now, we feel really good about that staffing reliability. And I think one of the things that we learned from coming out of the pandemic is the need to be really proactive in ensuring the right levels of staffing. Really proactive about our hiring and to be managing those numbers really, really carefully. And that's something, I mean, it's in our ethos to be somewhat fiscally conservative, to think about durability for the long term, to manage numbers tightly. And so, it's in our DNA. We just needed to put that muscle to work in some key areas that weren't as volatile before the pandemic. So, we feel really good and I think those operational stats that I shared are sort of demonstration we're on a really good trajectory as it relates to the operation. A couple things that we're kind of excited about though, certainly the opportunity to get more pilots and more other people into the industry. But there's some really interesting things happening on the sustainability front. There's a lot of innovation around electric and hybrid electric aircraft that might be smaller aircraft and do shorter hops but where you can use non-traditional combustion engines. And actually one of our smaller aircraft we donated to a hydrogen electric powertrain manufacturer that actually works up at Paine Field, the airport that I noted north of Seattle, so that they can retrofit it with their hydrogen electric powertrain system and can do zero emissions flights. On another part of the sustainability innovation area, working on sustainable aviation fuels and making cleaner energies for current infrastructure, current engines available. And they exist. They're safe. They're made sort of recycling carbon materials like you might find in waste material or agricultural waste. And that's an area that we're putting a lot of energy because we think it's a market that not only will be essential for a more sustainable future but that will continue to grow.
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Yunji Denise28:06
I mean, that goal of 2040, I had not heard that before of being net zero. That seems incredibly ambitious for an airline, right? Because you just think about all the fuel that you have to use to power your... So, how do you get there? I mean, those innovations that you're talking about sound amazing. They also sound expensive and very niche, right? So, how do you do that? And 2040 is not that far away.
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Diana Birkett-rakow28:30
Yeah, you just characterized what keeps me up at night. But our board said, look, if we're going to do this, we have to be bold because we have to push ourselves to actually go fast and go far. We just know that we can't do it alone. So, the five parts of our path are: operational efficiency, how do we use what we have incredibly well and efficiently so that we save fuel where we can. Our new MAX aircraft are about almost 25% more fuel efficient than the airplanes that they're replacing. So, right there, that's the foundation. Sustainable aviation fuel is very small supply right now but it can't be niche in the future and so that's where we need collaborations, private investment, public investment, tax policy, and there's been an incredible acceleration in the last couple of years that gives us hope that that market will continue to take off. And then the electrified aircraft that we talked about. And then finally we may need some level of reliable, durable, carbon removal projects to close that gap. But we're working on the foundational things to start. So we're committed. We know we have a lot of work to do though and it's going to take everybody working together.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji29:41
Well, we're almost out of time here but I did want to just provide you one final thought as we continue this conversation about what tourism in Hawaii looks like and as we talk about Alaska and the expansion that you said is happening with a new route that's coming. Your final thoughts about Hawaii as a whole and the importance that this destination plays into the overall scheme of Alaska Airlines and your growth as a company.
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Diana Birkett-rakow30:04
Well, thanks for that. Your questions have been phenomenal and I love chatting with you all. But I would just say that a lot of what we're so honored to serve Hawaii and to be part of the community. And I think a lot of what is evoked in the spirit of aloha, aloha is something that, and just the idea of care and of being welcoming and of curiosity and of responsibility and stewardship. Those are things that run deep in our culture. And so I hope that we can continue to be mutually supportive and to do the right thing for Hawaii in the future.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji30:40
Well, Diana, it's always great to catch up with you. Thank you so much for sharing with us this morning and we hope to have you on again soon.
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Diana Birkett-rakow30:48
Thank you very much. Have a great weekend.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji30:51
Thank you. Thanks.
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Yunji Denise30:53
Well, Ryan, so interesting to get that outside and inside perspective, right? That an airline that has been committed to Hawaii for some time now but has a global reach and really an interesting perspective. I love what she talked about at the top with the trends in leisure. She called it blending business travel with leisure travel. That's a trend that they're seeing people wanting to do sort of the best of both and make sure that they're as efficient as possible with their hours in the air. There's still, what she said, a very strong appetite for travel to Hawaii and some pretty impressive flight times, meeting destinations. I think she said, you know, A to B, 99% of the time, or maybe 100%. I can't remember. Very close. One or the other. And then on-time arrivals, 85%, which she said is top of the industry.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji31:36
Yeah, it's just interesting to see how things have evolved with the Hawaii market. She talked about how they have accommodated some of the times and when their flights leave and return to Hawaii in order for Hawaii residents who are looking to make those connecting flights to say the East Coast or having to make some of those changes. Interesting to see how the airline has tried to find ways to accommodate the Hawaii travelers specifically noting the time it takes to get here and also the time difference that's involved and helping for those connecting flights. But also she talked about the introduction of that new route coming from that Paine Field airport in Northern Seattle. That will add just another option for those who are trying to get to the islands as Alaska, she says, continues to really look at destinations and what the demand is. She said there still obviously is a very strong demand for the island of Oahu and Honolulu but they continue to look at other opportunities that may exist on some of the neighbor islands. Of course, Alaska Airlines serving all four major islands within the state and again, continue to see much success with the amount of travelers that still have a demand for Hawaii.
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Yunji Denise32:47
Yeah, and then of course in her title is the word sustainability. She's the vice president of public affairs but also sustainability. And she did say what keeps her up at night is reaching that 2040 net zero goal. I mean, if you think about all the fuel that an airline needs to do their business, that is very, very ambitious and really interesting to hear about some of the environmental innovations that they're looking at, electric aircraft, using sustainable fuel, and then some of the other areas she talked about. 2040 is around the corner. Of course, that's the state's goal as well, right? To be net zero. So, hopefully we both reach that in that time frame.
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Ryan Kalei Tsuji33:22
Yeah, and just an interesting conversation. We thank Diana for joining us this morning. Always great to get an outsider perspective of the tourism industry, outside the islands but with a partner that obviously has strong roots to Hawaii and this and Hawaii as a destination as a whole. We're going to continue on with this tourism theme on Monday. We're going to be talking to Rick Egged of the Waikiki Improvement Association. He's going to talk a little bit more about things that are happening in that area.
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Yunji Denise33:52
That's right. You know, Waikiki has gotten a lot of attention. Of course, it is the crown jewel when it comes to the tourism market and it's such an important destination. It is a lot of people's first impression of Hawaii and in recent years and months, the impression hasn't always been good. We've seen a lot of petty crime there. We've seen some actual high profile incidents of crime involving visitors as well. And so, HPD, the mayor, the Honolulu Prosecutor's Office has really made that a focus. They've done a lot of work with Safe and Sound and those geographical restrictions and repeat offenders. That seems to be making progress. Also, there's some new restrictions when it comes to how late you can stay out on the beach there. That met with some controversy because people want to be able to take a walk along the beach but also trying to balance keeping people from actually out on the beach at night and all that that brings. So, we'll be talking to Rick about what he thinks is going right in Waikiki, what still needs to be done. We hope to see you right back here, 10:30 on Monday. Until then, have a great weekend. We'll see you then. Aloha.