About Sean Compton
Sean Compton, President of the Networks Division at Nexstar Media, has been discussing the company's programming strategy, including the launch of the docuseries "100 Days to Indy" on The CW. Compton described the series as a partnership with Vice and IndyCar, noting that it will air as six hour-long episodes on The CW, a broadcast network he emphasized is available without a subscription. He also mentioned a companion one-hour documentary about the Indianapolis 500 that may air on The CW or NewsNation. Compton expressed personal enthusiasm for the project, stating that it combines business interests with his passion for the event.
Regarding NewsNation, Compton has outlined the network's growth trajectory, stating that it launched with a profit and is expanding its live programming hours. He attributed the network's focus on news to Nexstar's strength in local news reporting and its lack of a studio or sports rights. Compton said the network aims to provide "good honest reporting" without political skew, citing its Ukraine coverage as an example of building credibility. He noted that the network's marketing campaign, which includes television and outdoor advertising, was delayed in the first quarter of 2022 due to sports and Olympic programming.
Source: AI-verified profile updated from Sean Compton's recent appearances.
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Dan Maldonado0:02
Hello and welcome to the Turn Four Podcast. I am your host, Dan Maldonado. If this is your first time listening, welcome. If it's your regular listener, welcome back. This podcast gives a fan's perspective on IndyCar and other forms of motorsport. Before we get started, let me introduce you to my co-host, Tim Reiner. Hey, Timmy.
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Tim Reiner0:21
Hello, Dan. How are you?
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Dan Maldonado0:22
I am awesome today. How are you?
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Tim Reiner0:24
I'm good. I'm good because I've spent a lot of time with you today. It's been a busy day for sure.
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Dan Maldonado0:30
Yeah, it has. Yep, it has. Tim, we're wrapping up the 2022 season with a fantastic and really timely guest, wouldn't you say?
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Tim Reiner0:40
I agree 100%. Yeah.
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Dan Maldonado0:42
Our guest is Sean Compton. For those who don't know who Sean Compton is, Sean Compton is the President of Networks for Nexstar Media. He has been in that role since November of 2020. If you don't know what that means and why we're talking about that on an IndyCar podcast, it's because Nexstar owns the CW Network, and the CW Network will be the distribution partner for the upcoming series called 100 Days to Indy. Sean is responsible for the operations of NewsNation, WGN Radio, Antenna TV, Rewind TV, and of course, Nexstar programming acquisitions. So, Tim, let's get into this interview with Sean, and then we'll come back here and make some comments on it.
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Tim Reiner1:29
All right, let's do it.
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Dan Maldonado1:30
Sean Compton, welcome to Turn Four, Sean.
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Sean Compton1:35
Hey, thank you. Good to be here, guys. How are you today?
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Dan Maldonado1:39
I'm good. I'm really excited about getting winter over with so we can get into the spring and get our TV show on the air.
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Sean Compton1:47
Yes, I know. It's our last couple of episodes, right? It's a long off-season, and then it's a long cold off-season, so we definitely share that perspective. So, we're excited to have you on here as well. Welcome to Turn Four. We just want to dive right in. Real quick first question: are you originally from the Indianapolis area?
Well, I was born in Indianapolis. I grew up in Connersville, between Indianapolis and Cincinnati, just east of Indianapolis about 50 miles. My grandfather was in the agri-business, owned grain elevators, and then my dad worked for him. So I had a family of Indy season ticket holders for many years. My uncle Mead, I think, saw 53 or 54 races over his lifetime. So I went to the race with him a handful of times. My first race was in 1985.
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Dan Maldonado2:45
Who was the winner? Do you remember?
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Sean Compton2:47
That was the spin and win with Danny Sullivan. Yeah, I was sitting in the Southwest Vista, pretty high up, and saw the spin. They were neck and neck. It was an incredible race. I saw the spin and the smoke, and I'm like, 'Oh my God.' I looked at my dad and said, 'They crashed number one and number two just crashed.' Then we looked down and there's no cars because when you see it on TV, it's clear that he made it through, but when you're watching in real time, it's so fast. You see the puff of smoke from the tires. So yeah, it was a perfect weather day, hot summer type day, and it was my first race experience. Then my second race was in 1992, which was the coldest, longest, most horrible day. I think the high temperature was 44. It was Al Unser Jr. who won, and it was a close race. But remember, everyone, what driver crashed in the pace lap? Guerrero crashed on the slab. So it was one of those races where you're like, 'Can we get this thing over with?' because it was the coldest race ever run.
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Dan Maldonado4:10
Yeah, I remember watching that on TV. That was the first... so that was a better place to see it.
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Sean Compton4:14
Yeah, it was the only race that was just misery because you didn't pack for a cold day. You just weren't quite ready for it.
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Dan Maldonado4:22
Yeah, and you're bundled up.
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Sean Compton4:25
Yeah. The last couple years it's been super nice, 70s, 80s degrees. So to have that year, it was in the 50s, overcast, and the tires weren't warm. Roberto Guerrero spun on the pay slab. He was on hole two. It was so crazy. I was excited to go. My uncle was notorious for calling me at the 11th hour, literally 11 o'clock at night: 'Hey, you want to go to the race tomorrow?' Sure. So my uncle Mead, who was a very odd guy, wonderful human being, calls me at like 10:30, 11 o'clock at night Saturday night: 'Hey, I got an extra ticket. I got a bunch of tickets for the race tomorrow. You want to bring some friends?' I said, 'Uncle Mead, I'm not gonna find anyone at midnight to go with me.' So he invited his neighbors. I said, 'Where do you want me to meet you?' He said, 'Oh, just meet me at the gate.' I'm like, '400,000 people, you want me to meet you at the... I said, 'How about I just come to your house at 5 a.m.?' But it's good memories. What I love about the Indy 500, not for me selfishly, is everyone has that family story. It's grandparents, uncles, kids, brothers, sisters. It's a family component that makes it so special.
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Dan Maldonado5:43
Oh, totally. So it sounds like you have a passion for the sport. Do your sons share that same passion?
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Sean Compton5:49
You know, my passion is I don't really follow the sport. I don't really follow any sport closely. What I love about the Indy league and what I love about the 500 is the tradition, the diversity. I mean, the drivers are you trying to figure out what accent that is: South America, Australian, British. It's just how worldly it is. Being from Indiana, you're very proud of that. That large diverse group coming together in the middle of really a cornfield, and it used to be a cornfield. So I think that's one of the things I love about it. And it's not tribal. You're not rooting for the Bengals versus... I grew up a Bengals fan and a Colts fan, so who do I like the most? It's not tribal. You're rooting for a bunch of the drivers, if not all of them. Sure, you'll have your favorites in your back pocket. A lot of us want to see Helio get the fifth one and be there to witness that, or see some rookie pull it out, or Carpenter, one of the Hoosiers, pull it out for the first time in a long time. So I'm excited that we get to tell that story on our new show. We came up with the show concept. I took my 18-year-old back in May to the Indy 500 for the first time because I wanted to see his reaction through the eyes of a teenager who had grown up seeing the race on TV, never experiencing it in person. I wanted to see his reaction. I went not as a fan to watch the race; I went to view the people. So we walked through the infield. I looked at the T, went over to that snake pit area to look at the teenagers that were there hanging out. I took a good glance at the people in the stands. The one thing I tell everyone who wants to be involved in the project, or that wanted to be involved, I said, 'You need to watch the pre-race because it is one moment in time that you have 350,000 people take their hats off for the 21-gun salute. They don't applaud at the end of Taps until the trumpeter does the salute after he plays the trumpet.' You also have a prayer, you have God Bless America or America the Beautiful, and then you have Back Home Again in Indiana. It's so emotional for people who are Americans. There is no politics. There's no protesting, no fighting. It's just a patriotic day where Americans come together. It's a special moment. To have that much respect shown by that many people in one group, you don't hear people saluting horns or yelling or screaming. You don't see people getting arrested. It's just a lot of people coming together for one event. I think it's very special, and I'm happy that we're gonna get to showcase that.
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Dan Maldonado9:27
Yeah, it's funny that you say that because Tim and I do go to other events, and we've been to other larger events. It's always the first thing that strikes us when you take those events and backdrop that against the Indy 500. The pageantry, there is nothing that comes close to the pageantry of the Indy 500. Nothing. Everything you get before that, and Sean, as you were talking about that, I was getting goosebumps over here just thinking about it and being a part of that. It's all about unity. It brings everybody together no matter who you are, where you come from. You've got the 350,000 people around the stadium, and it is just everybody coming together for that special moment. And it's on a great weekend. It's a weekend that we should be paying tribute to everything we are as a country and what we've done, and obviously the troops and everybody else. So it's very special.
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Tim Reiner10:18
Yeah, as Dan mentioned, we've gone to many other events, and it doesn't even come close. They just do it right. Everything about it is right. The backdrop of the longest running auto race... I mean, it probably is. I don't know if Monaco was before or not, I don't know the history there, but an event that goes over a hundred years. Growing up in Indiana, I even have a passion for some of the old stickers on the cars because in Connersville, they made a lot of car parts. They actually made the Cord was built in Connersville. Parts for the Cord or parts for the Duesenberg were built in Connersville. My great uncle's family were the founders of Perfect Circle, and they were a big sponsor for the races in the 50s and 60s because they made a lot of auto parts. The history there, people don't understand the rearview mirror was invented at the Indy 500. The first driver said, 'I can't put someone else in the back seat with me. My mechanic, I don't need a mechanic to ride with me. It's going to add another 160 pounds. So I'll fix my car, but I need a way to spot.' So he put in a rearview mirror, and boom, that's invented.
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Dan Maldonado12:00
Yeah, so I didn't know that. Tim, did you know that?
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Tim Reiner12:02
I don't think I knew that specifically, but I better look it up.
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Sean Compton12:05
Yeah, better fact check me. I'm in the news business too, so you got to fact check.
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Dan Maldonado12:10
That's right. We'll do that for sure. I think the Indy 500 is all about technology advancements and innovation. What you just talked about is an innovation. I don't need another person in the car; I can put a mirror up and look. What it's done as time progresses and how things shape up from a technology perspective, there's a lot that happens unity-wise, but also from a vehicle perspective and technology. That's what the Indy 500 was built on, and that's what drew people in to come and see it.
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Sean Compton12:43
After your son's first experience this past year, is he hooked? Do you think?
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Dan Maldonado12:47
He definitely is. He's going to Butler University, so he's in Indianapolis. He's got his blood through me even though he's never lived there, although now he's a resident through Butler. So yeah, he'll go again. He wants to definitely go again. We'll take advantage of those great credentials and get him there. My kids will kind of dabble in it because it's been on their entire life. They've never gone up Sunday in the summer time if I'm home; I'm watching IndyCar or racing of some sort. So they have grown up with it. It's funny, my wife and I have been together 30 years, and she too, same thing. She recognized his name, she knows drivers, she knows past owners, and she knows who that is. It's part of our family. It's part of what we do. We're in the Detroit area, as is Tim, and the automotive industry is a big deal here. So it's kind of natural that we gravitate toward this level of motorsports and brand names with Chevy and... well, your neighbors with Roger Penske.
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Sean Compton14:00
Yeah, well, I'm excited about the series that we're airing on CW, 100 Days to Indy, with our Vice partnership because it's going to showcase the drivers. It'll be interesting to see people that watch it, how that translates to the races and the big race. If you see any drivers kind of emerge because they all have very interesting personalities. You've got to be wicked smart, or I take that back, you don't have to be wicked smart, you have to have amazing instincts to be a race car driver. It's like quarterbacks: the better the instincts, the better you're gonna be. Hockey, the better the instincts, the better you're going to be. There are certain sports where your instincts have to be so spot on. Driving a car at 235 miles an hour, three inches from your next driver at the same speed, for 500 miles, requires really good skill and amazing instincts. So all these guys have interesting personalities, and ladies, and I think that we're going to be able to showcase that. I'm pumped about that because you're going to see, no pun intended, under the hood of what these personalities are like and who they are, not just someone mentioned on race day in the pole position.
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Dan Maldonado15:36
Did IndyCar come to you, or did IndyCar go to Vice and say, 'Hey, we've got this idea, we'd like to do this'?
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Sean Compton15:45
Indy had a lot of opportunities for things. They're smart, they're very strategic. You don't just pick anything just to get the exposure. Every decision is made with a certain level of precision and what we want to accomplish. They were looking to do something in this realm, but they wanted to have the right partner. I know they were talking to some other folks, and then I got in the mix with them. The difference between the other folks and me is I had just been there. If you want to do any program or product, you have the upper hand when you have the passion for it. The Vice folks had some history and some knowledge, the producers who are really good producers that are part of this project. I, of course, had the passion for it, plus we have the distribution. We were buying the CW Network when we started talking to them, and now we own it. It's a perfect outlet for them because it's available in all homes. If you don't have cable, you get over-the-air television, and that's where the broadcast component comes in. Vice also is a great partner because they're good producers, demo-friendly, and they have international distribution. This will be seen worldwide. It won't just be here first with the domestic airing on CW, but it'll air worldwide as well. That's what made Indy say, 'Hey, we're in.' I got to know Mark Miles through a mutual friend of ours. I just reached out and said, 'Hey, we're interested in doing this,' and they were so great to work with. It was almost like the perfect marriage of the three partners in this deal.
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Dan Maldonado17:40
Are all the teams and drivers signed and expected to participate?
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Sean Compton17:45
I don't know the details of that. The Indy league, I will tell you that I got the benefit of being in the driver meeting. I wish I'd been there in person because Will Power was gonna give me some laps in the pace car, but I was just too busy here in Chicago, so I couldn't go down. But I did a Zoom with them, and the excitement for it... Look, it's a sport that there's a lot of sports out there, a lot of competition for eyeballs and butts in seats. At the end of the day, they could tell that we're not looking to sensationalize their sport. We just want to expose it, give them the proper exposure, and let the world get to know the Indy Racing League. For me, it's about generating interest and ad dollars for my business and for them. They have a business to operate, but when you can mix that with the passion, it makes it so much better.
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Dan Maldonado18:48
Patrick Diamond is the director of the series, yes? Six parts, right?
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Sean Compton18:53
Yes, so the first season, assuming everything goes well, it'll be six. Then we're also, Nexstar our company through NewsNation, a little film division that we created. The other thing that fascinates me is the build-up to the track. So what we're doing is producing a one-hour documentary that'll air either on the CW or on NewsNation right before the race. I'm just fascinated that there are concessions, there are toilets that work eight hours a year. There are concessions that are closed for 364 days of the year. I said, 'Guys, the mailing of 150,000 season tickets that go out in the blue envelopes in February, you just drop those in the mailbox? Trucks come in a caravan and pick up all that mail.' I'm fascinated by what it takes to put on the world's largest one-day event. So we're doing a documentary on that to be shoulder programming to the CW series. It's like the lead-up to the Indy 500 and what really takes place to make it all ready. We're taping this right before Christmas, we're getting a snowstorm in the next 72 hours, 48 hours. Imagine seeing the track covered in snow. The track doesn't have any potholes because they never put salt on it and they never shovel it. So if there's a foot of snow on the ground, it's on the track until it melts naturally. So I'm fascinated by that, so we're gonna do shoulder programming with that.
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Dan Maldonado20:47
I'll tell you a little thing here. I don't think we've ever told our listeners this. I ordered tickets. We had three groups that went to the 500 last year: my family, Tim's, and another couple that came with us. So I had ordered the tickets, and I just said, 'No, just digital delivery.' I get digital delivery for baseball, I get digital delivery for football, Big Ten Championship, right? But Tim kept saying, 'We're not getting the tickets. No digital delivery. I'll send them to you when we get them.' 'We're not getting the tickets.' No. And then I saw this thing about the blue envelopes and somebody was signing them, like Scott Dixon or Alexander Rossi or something. No, you got that like having the Willy Wonka ticket, man. I called my guy back and said, 'Look, I made a massive error here in not getting these tickets.' He said, 'Yeah, I'll send them to you.' So he did. He picked up right on it, he knew right away, but he wasn't gonna talk me out of it. Of course, Helio was on it because it was his fourth win, and I'm like, 'Why would you not get the physical tickets so we can have them and go through the process?' So now we have them.
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Tim Reiner21:55
Yeah, of course. Yes, no, that's another tradition that continues.
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Dan Maldonado21:58
So when you start taping for the series, does that happen before St. Pete? Are you guys going to...?
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Sean Compton22:03
The Vice folks are all over that. I don't get overly involved. I know that yes, they're gonna start filming shortly. They've been interviewing a lot of the drivers to kind of get their rhythm down and their schedules, getting to know them because they're going to start following a lot of them. The nice thing is each episode is an hour, so it's going to be 44 minutes in run time. It's not a half hour, which is probably a little too short when you only have six episodes. I think it's timed out right. So yeah, they'll start filming. It's basically following the drivers to the Indy, and the last episode airs right after the race. So you'll have a week later the big day.
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Dan Maldonado22:52
Do you guys have a start date?
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Sean Compton22:55
I'm out on CW right now. Yes, yes. It works most likely a Thursday night, but I have seen the schedule. The head of scheduling and programming will probably shoot me if I gave you the actual dates because he probably hasn't released it yet, so I don't want to step on his toes and make an enemy there. But it'll start in April, late April.
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Dan Maldonado23:16
Wow, so this is really putting it together as it happens, right?
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Sean Compton23:21
Yeah, it's a really quick production turnaround. Very quick production turnaround.
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Dan Maldonado23:28
Who gets the final say in the edits? Does Vice have the final say, or does IndyCar have check?
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Sean Compton23:36
I don't know how that's written. Normally it's a partnership where we give creative notes, Vice will make some tweaks on that. Indy's very involved. It's their franchise. I don't know how... I think really in my history, and I think Mark Miles's history, he just hired good producers to produce. You bet on them. You get the best people, and Morgan Hurt and Vice is really good, and Patrick that he's got. So I think we let them do it, and there's not going to be much time for edits, so we'll probably all kind of agree on a format and they'll be off to the races.
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Dan Maldonado24:28
So, getting close to wrap up. Thank you for the time, but I do want to give you a chance to talk a little bit about CW because I think this is part of what maybe some of our listeners and maybe some of the IndyCar fans might be missing. You talked about it briefly: the reach, the audience, the amount of people that CW blankets, and why this is a great idea.
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Sean Compton24:48
Everyone listening to this has access to the CW if you've got a television set. The CW is the fifth network. It's a broadcast network. In Middle America, it's on what used to be 30 years ago independent stations, and now it's its own network on those stations. In New York, LA, Chicago, I don't know LA, it's KTLA Channel 5, the biggest station in the market. So CW has a tremendous reach. You don't have to have a subscription to get it. It's much like when you watch football, unless it's the Thursday night game with Amazon which you have to pay a premium for, football is available for free over the air. Many NBA games are. The Indy 500 is available on ABC. So the CW is a broadcast network that's available in all the homes. You can find your local affiliate just by Googling it. Google your hometown and type in 'CW Network' and you'll see which over-the-air television station it is if you don't know already.
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Dan Maldonado25:57
And is it primarily US-based, or is there a Canadian affiliate or Mexico?
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Sean Compton26:02
No, it's US-based. All international distribution Vice would be handling. I'm sure they've got Canadian reach. I'm sure they've got a lot of reach over in Europe. So it will be available around the world on Vice's reach. Now, the CW also has an app, cw.com, and we'll make the episodes available on there just like they are on the air. So if you miss the broadcast, whatever night, I'm guessing Thursday night, but if you miss that and you realize it's Saturday morning and you've got time to watch it, you can go to the app and watch it there. So if you didn't DVR it, you can catch it on the CW app.
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Dan Maldonado26:48
See, that's checking all the boxes. The CW app is on all the smart TVs, all the new smart TVs. If you've got a TV made in the last several years, just go on to your apps, download it on the TV, or it's available on your phone. So you'll have access to it. A lot of content on that app, so you may find other things you love besides just the series.
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Tim Reiner27:17
It checks the boxes in terms of the way people consume content today. I want it when I want it now. I may not need it Thursday at 8, so it definitely checks the boxes. That's all I got, Timmy.
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Dan Maldonado27:33
I don't have anything else. Sean, I appreciate you coming out, and I'm excited to see the show just like you guys. I hope all your fans will love it. Send along their comments. We're looking forward to a long run here.
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Tim Reiner27:49
Hey, we'll put this at the end because we can edit it if we need to. But who's your favorite driver? Put you on the spot.
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Sean Compton27:57
I'm sorry. I'm old school, so I would love to see Graham Rahal win. His dad and... I love any of the guys. Love the guys from Indiana. You had two or three drivers from Indiana in there. I'm mixed about whether I want to see Helio win a fifth one or not. There's something to be said about having all these guys who have four. I couldn't believe someone would pass Mears and AJ Foyt, but I think that would be great too. I was there in 2005 when Danica was leading, which was really cool to be there to see the first woman lead a lap at the Indianapolis 500. So I gotta be honest, I root for all of them. That's another reason why I love it. You don't really feel like you're losing. Your team's not losing. I went to the Super Bowl and watched the Bengals lose, and I had the greatest weekend ever until the Bengals lost, and then I wanted to go home and I was crying. That's the thing: you leave the track and you just feel good. You love seeing those tulips in the wreath wrapped around the driver at the end, no matter who it is.
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Dan Maldonado29:10
I am with you. I don't care who it is. I obviously have personalities that I love to see on TV, and that just makes it better. But I don't care who wins. I look at it like this is just an amazing accomplishment, and whoever gets to stand there, cover themselves in milk, and put that wreath on them, good on them.
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Sean Compton29:33
Well, thank you guys. It was nice seeing you.
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Dan Maldonado29:36
Yeah, thank you, Sean. We appreciate it.
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Tim Reiner29:38
Yeah, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.
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Dan Maldonado29:42
All right, the first thing that I want to say about this up front is Sean was an important guest, mainly because I think a lot of what we have heard recently has been in regard to this series was 'Why CW? Why the CW Network? What's the CW Network?' I just want to talk a little bit about that. So CW, as you heard, is available everywhere. In fact, it's 98% of households. You don't need to pay for anything to get CW programming. You don't even need a fancy updated TV to get CW. CW is available over the air wherever you live, and it can be through something as simple as an $8 pair of rabbit ears hooked up to your TV. In addition to that, CW does cater to a much younger audience. Some of their programming goes... and I also heard if you have the app, you can just go to the app, watch the show at your leisure. So it's on demand and anytime. If you have an updated TV, you can get the app right on your TV and stream right through your TV anytime. So I think we heard that the show is going to launch in April, but you can get it anytime, anywhere as long as you have access to a TV or even your mobile device.
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Tim Reiner31:10
That's right. Yeah, so I think it makes sense that it's on CW. It was great that Sean shared his insights of what was going on and how that all sort of transpired and where they're at today.
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Dan Maldonado31:24
Yeah, and we made the point too when we were talking to Sean was part of the importance of that is how people consume media today, how they consume their content today. They want it at their leisure, as opposed to... I'm gonna make it sound old, I'm gonna go with this white beard for those of us watching on YouTube, but we watched Knight Rider because it was on Thursday nights at 8 o'clock. We didn't have the option of DVRing it. We didn't have the option of just catching up on it or letting all the episodes come out and then we would binge watch it at the end of the season. We didn't have that option. So at least the fact that CW has a really good app and they've got the streaming service that they would give you some options, so as the younger audience gets ready to consume this particular content, they can do it at their leisure.
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Tim Reiner32:24
Yeah, so back to the Twitter backlash: why not Peacock? I don't know why not Peacock, but I will give you what I would think. Why not Peacock? First of all, Peacock can't say any of that. They're not in 98% of households, and that's fine. It's not the intention of Peacock. I want to say that Peacock would be essentially speaking to many of the same people. It would just be screaming into an echo chamber.
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Dan Maldonado32:54
Right, yeah, that makes total sense. Because the people that are watching it today are on Peacock, and they're on Peacock to watch IndyCars. So you've got the same audience, the same people looking at it. So it makes sense to go with a different network. CW, as you mentioned, is in almost every household, so you have access to it. Drive to Survive wasn't put out on Sky Sports, the same people. Not apples to apples, it's a paid streaming service, but that's where they wound up and they found an audience there. We know that they found a significant audience there. So it makes sense to try to broaden the footprint, try to bring the series and what the series brings to a motorsports fan, and try to find a little bit more diversity in terms of who they're speaking to and who they're trying to draw into the series.
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Tim Reiner33:50
And I'll say this too: Peacock and NBC are certainly a great partner. I think for the first time in a very long time, we see a lot of IndyCar races that are broadcast on NBC, and with Peacock supplementing what is happening on NBC, you've got an advantage, especially for somebody like you and I who wants to see the practice rounds, who wants to see the qualifying rounds. Where really, unless we're talking about the Indy 500, we're not getting that. That was true on TV, absolutely true. So Peacock gives you the opportunity to bolster the series. I'm not taking anything away from them. Was that probably the natural partner? I don't know. Is that somebody that IndyCar went to? I don't know. But nonetheless, that helps bring a little bit more in terms of my eyes, a little bit more closure as to why CW is a good approach for this. Obviously, once these things come out, we'll know whether that approach... I think it's fantastic.
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Dan Maldonado35:05
Yeah, I agree. Vice Media is who was producing this series, as I mentioned. CW's the distribution partner, and Vice is a strong partner for this in that they understand a younger audience. I don't want to go into a lot of that here, but if you go and Google search Vice Media and see what they produce and the kind of content that they're involved in, you can see this is a pretty modern media company.
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Tim Reiner35:32
Yeah, and I think the important thing is that what we heard was that Vice Media has reach outside of the United States to get this program out to other countries. So that's right. I'd love to understand more of what that looks like, but at the same time, there is that potential there. So that'll be good for continued growth not just within the states but outside of the states.
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Dan Maldonado35:55
That's right. Sean mentioned that filming will likely be in April, and there'll be six shows in total: five leading up to the 500, with one show taking place after the 500. I think that's pretty cool because it actually is going to be the full deal. It's going to be the run-up to the 500 and then it's going to give you the post-500 view of this thing. The fact that it sounds like the teams and drivers are all involved with this and they're going to showcase the personalities, Sean said that, and I think that's something that you have to do. We talked about marketing in our last episode. We talked a lot about the marketing in our last episode, and I think part of that appeal of marketing IndyCar is not just advertising or trying to promote the Indy 500, but trying to promote the guys in the helmets. That's kind of a disadvantage to something like basketball. They've got a helmet on. You don't really get the chance to see them unless you're as involved or unless you're watching the series at the rate that you and I are consuming it, or most of the IndyCar faithful are consuming it, because you don't see it. But if you consider somebody like Helio Castroneves, who won Dancing with the Stars, that exposed Helio and the series to a degree to a much different audience.
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Tim Reiner37:18
For sure. James Hinchcliffe finished second in Dancing with the Stars, and he was proud of it. When we spoke to him, I said, 'My daughter told me not to say this to you,' and he was like, 'No, say it. I'm proud of it.' That too exposed a different audience to IndyCar at the same time.
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Dan Maldonado37:36
Yeah, and I think how do you take those... I call those limited exposures just because it's on a show and the person watched the show and they don't go beyond that. But if they hear of another show that somebody that they've seen before is on it, and you can get their personality, how do you continue to build upon that to get them to actually tune into the race? I think this series will help some of that too. The other piece that I was very much encouraged on was the fact that because of this compressed timeline in order to put out these six episodes, there's not gonna be a lot of scripting here. So it really is going to be, what I would hope, a very raw look at what takes place in the lead-up to the biggest race in open-wheel, in American open-wheel racing.
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Tim Reiner38:23
Yeah, I agree. It'll be great. I expect to see these drivers' personalities. I think they've already said they've already started talking to some of them and been on different calls with some of the drivers just to understand the drivers a little bit better so that way when they do the recording, they get the raw sort of aspect of it.
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Dan Maldonado38:45
Yeah, well, that was a lot of fun. I'm thrilled that we were able to bring that together. Thank you, Tim, for being able to pull that guest appearance together. That was really fantastic.
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Tim Reiner38:55
Yeah, you're welcome. Hopefully the fans enjoy it.
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Dan Maldonado38:58
Yeah, that was the point of having Sean on, and I think he obviously had some great insight. We look forward to bringing other interviews as the off-season continues.
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Tim Reiner39:08
That's right. The long off-season. I've seen a few months, Tim.
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Dan Maldonado39:12
All right, but I think this is our last episode before the new year, right?
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Tim Reiner39:17
It is. So yep, this will be... this one's off sequence, but it will be our last one until 2023.
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Dan Maldonado39:25
Yeah, we're signing off for the year. That's right. Look at that, a full year under our belt in one calendar year, if you know what I mean.
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Tim Reiner39:33
Yep, oh yeah, I understand. Yeah, because we started in June of 2021.
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Dan Maldonado39:39
Okay, with Road America was our first episode, which was a mess. Have you ever gone back and listened to that thing?
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Dan Maldonado39:48
I might have to do that. If you really want a treat for the worst episode, go to St. Louis 2021. Put that one by yourself.
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Tim Reiner39:57
So that's it. Hey, happy holidays to you and yours. Everybody, hope everyone has a happy and safe holiday. I look forward to catching up with you in the new year. Please continue to engage with us on social media. Reach out to us on our YouTube channel, on our Twitter handle, send us an email, however you like to engage with us. We appreciate all of what you send in, good or bad, whatever it is. We're still growing, we're still learning in our roles here after 53 episodes.
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Dan Maldonado40:33
So yeah, definitely. That's all I got, Tim.
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Tim Reiner40:38
I don't have anything else. Happy New Year, everybody.
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Dan Maldonado40:41
Happy New Year.