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Kevin Hassett
Director, National Economic Council of the United States

'MASSIVE REFUND CHECKS': Kevin Hassett teases 'biggest' refund cycle in US history

📅 Dec 18, 2025 Fox Business 8 MIN 320962 VIEWS 24 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett joins 'Varney & Co.' to discuss the November CPI report, tax refunds, an anticipated White House announcement on housing reform and more. #trumpeconomy #kevinhassett #varneyandco #inflationreport #cpinovember #taxrefund2026 #trumptaxcuts #wagegrowth #housingaffordability #mortgagerates #federalreserve #randaul #economicpolicy #foxbusiness Subscribe to Fox Business: https://bit.ly/2D9Cdse Watch more Fox Business Video: https://video.foxbusiness.com Watch Fox Business Network Live: http://www.foxnewsgo.com/ FOX Business Network (FBN)...

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 2:15Vice President Vance says, 'Hey, we got to have some patience.' Kevin, when will people start to feel things tangibly improve?
  2. 4:48Kevin, what does aggressive housing reform actually look like?
  3. 5:55How long before they're implemented and home buyers see some action?
  4. 7:00Can we get mortgage rates back below 6% anytime soon?
  5. 7:16Are there some changes that have been made to taxation which will appear in the form of a bigger paycheck for many people?
  6. 8:07Do you like the idea of an audit?
Interviewer 0:00 ↗
Well, there you have it. The November consumer price index out about an hour ago. Prices up 2.7% in the last 12 months. White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett joins me now. Good morning, sir. Looks to me like inflation is cooling. You got to like that.
Kevin Hassett 0:16 ↗
Yeah, it was just an absolute blockbuster report. You know, before the numbers come out, we look at the forecast from everybody we can find on Bloomberg. We've looked at 61 forecasts and this number came in better than every single one of them. Not a single economist surveyed by Bloomberg got it right. And the thing that I like to look at, Stu, and you've heard me say this for years and years since I've been on your show, is that the near-term trajectory is what's really important. And if you look at over the last three months and then annualize it, core inflation is only 1.6% now. And so basically what's happened is as we predicted throughout this term, that if you really put the pedal to the metal on aggregate supply, then that's going to put downward pressure on prices and that's what we're seeing. So we've got high growth and we've got core inflation running at 1.6% if you look at the last quarter. And I think that's about where we should be. And don't forget that's where we were last time in President Trump's first term. We were growing in the 3% range and we had inflation in the 1% range. And it looks like that's where we are again. So, I think that I'm not saying we're going to declare victory yet on the price problem, but this is just an astonishingly good CPI report.
Interviewer 1:24 ↗
Now, the president in his speech last night, he's promising an historic boost in take-home pay next year, 2026, and the largest tax refund of all. Listen to this.
Kevin Hassett 1:35 ↗
Yep.
Interviewer 1:37 ↗
You will see in your wallets and bank accounts in the new year. After years of record-setting falling incomes, our policies are boosting take-home pay at a historic pace. Next year, you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history that were really accomplished through our great big beautiful bill, perhaps the most sweeping legislation ever passed in Congress. Under these cuts, many families will be saving between $11,000 and $20,000 a year. And next spring is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.
Kevin, he's saying this as a new Fox poll shows only 11% of voters think they're getting ahead with their finances. 44% say they're falling behind. Vice President Vance says, 'Hey, we got to have some patience.' Kevin, when will people start to feel things tangibly improve?
Kevin Hassett 2:29 ↗
Well, I mean, right now, if you look at what's happening with the lower inflation and the higher wages, you saw in the jobs report that the latest wage number was that wages for the typical worker were up 3.7%. So, if you're running 3.7% wage increases at 1.6% core inflation, then real wages are growing at a rate of about 2.5%. By our estimates right now, blue-collar workers have already seen an almost $2,000 raise this year after inflation because wages are growing so much faster than prices. I think that what happens in the end, and this is what happened in the first term, is that people will see it in their wallets. One of the things that I think is really interesting about what the president said last night, which is a very important point, is that we didn't pass the big beautiful bill until the middle of the summer. And so a lot of the tax changes which affect last year weren't in any tax forms that people filled out at the beginning of the year. And so we are going to see the biggest refund cycle ever in the history of America. And people are going to get massive refund checks. So for the typical person who's a tip worker or gets overtime pay, we're expecting just that part of it alone to be worth a couple thousand dollar refund. And we're going to definitely have a big PR campaign at the beginning of the year urging people to file early so they can get the money that they're owed from taxes this year.
Interviewer 3:53 ↗
I'm sorry. I was temporarily out of touch. I'm very sorry, Kevin.
Kevin Hassett 3:57 ↗
Oh, I didn't know.
Interviewer 3:58 ↗
No, the plugin for my IFB came out so I'm very sorry.
Kevin Hassett 4:03 ↗
Yeah. I'll just say people are going to get big tax refunds next year and the numbers are striking. He's correct about that.

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Hassett, K. (2025, December 18). 'MASSIVE REFUND CHECKS': Kevin Hassett teases 'biggest' refund cycle in US history [Interview transcript]. Fox Business. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/610000/

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Kevin Hassett. "'MASSIVE REFUND CHECKS': Kevin Hassett teases 'biggest' refund cycle in US history." Fox Business, 18 Dec. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/610000/.

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