CEOInterviews.AI
Start App
Ron Conway
Founder of SV Angel, SV Angel

Legendary Investor Ron Conway explains the early days of Google

📅 Jun 17, 2025 The Social Radars Podcast 10 MIN 301 VIEWS 16 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
In Part 3 of our conversation with Ron Conway, he takes us behind the scenes at early Google. Ron was involved with Google almost from the start; he and Ram Shriram arranged their Series A round. So if you want to know what a really, really big success looked like at the beginning, this is the episode for you. Listen to full episodes of The Social Radars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://pod.link/1677066062 About the Show: Jessica Livingston and Carolynn Levy are The Social Radars. Carolynn and Jessica have been working together to help thousands of startups at Y Combinator for almost 2...

Questions asked in this interview

4
  1. 2:20Are you going to explain the name?
  2. 3:50And were they working on this?
  3. 5:16They're working on page rank, and then what happened?
  4. 9:56Did you, Ron? Did you trust him?
Interviewer 0:00 ↗
Take us back to Google and tell us any sort of relevant history that you know about Google, because it's such an important company in the history of Silicon Valley.
Ron Conway 0:10 ↗
Yes. SV Angel came on the scene in 1999, when Larry and Sergey had known each other for four years by then. But it's important to know that Larry and Sergey met each other when they were PhD students at Stanford. Larry was 24, Sergey was 23. So these are young PhD students who meet each other and start working together. And at the time, the need for a better search engine was everywhere, just like the AI discussion is today. It was the topic du jour. If you met somebody at a cocktail party, you were talking about search companies. It was the gold rush, as I said earlier. But it was what everyone was obsessed with. So Larry and Sergey, like everybody else, said, 'Hey, why don't we come up with a solution?' And theirs, funny enough, they nicknamed it 'Backrub' was the original name of the search engine. But being PhD students, their solution was more scientific. They thought that if you analyze the web's forward and back links to determine page rank. Funny enough, Larry Page, page rank. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't care about that, but they cared about page rank and that the search should be relevant. And when you say page rank and relevant today about search, it's ho-hum, right? At the time, just even the thought of using backlinks for page rank to get to page rank was a revolutionary thought. Then they had to write an algorithm to make that happen.
Interviewer 2:20 ↗
Are you going to explain the name? I actually don't remember the genesis. I think the genesis of Backrub is that it made the search make you feel good. But I'm just guessing that. Oh, we should go find that. We should go find that. But their name for the solution was Backrub.
Ron Conway 2:42 ↗
Okay. And because of the high interest in search, people at Stanford in the engineering department knew the term Backrub.
Interviewer 2:53 ↗
So just for non-technical people like me to explain it, Google wanted to, if you were searching up a certain kind of dog, they didn't want to list every single photo or web page that was on the internet of dogs. They wanted to find the one of that certain type of dog that had been linked to the most by other websites.
Ron Conway 3:16 ↗
Exactly. So if a lot of people, you know, in the early days the algorithm was more fundamental. It became hugely sophisticated over time, and the reason Google is still the market leader is they still invest heavily in R&D to continue to be the leader in search. But back then, if people asked the same question and they kept going to this one particular site, that site must be giving them the answer. So let's just go ahead and send other people there to that site.
Interviewer 3:50 ↗
Okay. And were they working on this? I feel like I read that they were working on this with Rajeev Motwani.
Ron Conway 4:01 ↗
Yes. So when you become a PhD, you get assigned a PhD advisor, and that person is assigned to you. But PhD students, I learned all of this after investing in Google and investing in other startups that came out of Stanford University. You get assigned a professor, but because everyone in a PhD program, including the ones who are already PhDs, are super curious people and they all interact with each other about the technology that they're working on. So Larry and Sergey got assigned professors, but they also hung out with many others. And Larry and Sergey became particularly close to Rajeev because Rajeev had expertise in this area. This was an area that already fit Rajeev's fancy. Whereas the other PhD professors that they got assigned to may have not been thinking about this particular area. But this is an area that Rajeev was very well-versed in. So they got closer to Rajeev than others.

8 more exchanges in this transcript

Sign in free to read the rest of this interview. No card required.

Sign in to read the full transcript

Cite this transcript

APA, MLA, BibTeX
APA

Conway, R. (2025, June 17). Legendary Investor Ron Conway explains the early days of Google [Interview transcript]. The Social Radars Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/632125/

MLA

Ron Conway. "Legendary Investor Ron Conway explains the early days of Google." The Social Radars Podcast, 17 Jun. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/632125/.

BibTeX
@misc{conway2025_632125,
  author       = {Ron Conway},
  title        = {Legendary Investor Ron Conway explains the early days of Google},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, The Social Radars Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {jun},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/632125/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}