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Adolfo Perez
Senior Vice President of Trade Sales and Marketing for Carnival Cruise Line, Carnival Corp

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About Adolfo Perez

Adolfo Perez, Senior Vice President of Global Sales and Trade Marketing for Carnival Cruise Line, has been active in a series of webinars and media appearances discussing the company's growth and new initiatives. In a February 2025 webinar with Brand Ambassador John Heald, Perez stated that the "P brand is being sunset" and that two of its ships will be merged into the Carnival fleet, a move he attributed to strong demand for the Carnival product. He also promoted Celebration Key, Carnival's new destination on Grand Bahama Island, noting that sailings to the destination are "selling at a premium" and therefore generating more commission for travel advisers. In a separate January 2025 interview, Perez described the "Peek at Paradise" event series, which he said is designed to educate travel advisers about Celebration Key and help them use it as a sales tool. In earlier appearances, Perez discussed the launch of the Carnival Firenze and the company's fleet expansion, noting that two more Excel-class ships are on order for 2027 and 2028. He emphasized the growth potential of the cruise market, stating that "the amount of people that have actually sailed on a cruise is minuscule compared to the whole travel market." Perez also reflected on his 40-year career at Carnival, which he said began at age 16 working at the Port of Miami, and expressed gratitude to travel advisers for their support. In a Spanish-language conference, Perez discussed topics related to aging and natural medicine, including the concept of "edadismo" (ageism) and the use of plants like astragalus and wild yam, though these remarks were separate from his corporate role.

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Transcript (72 segments)
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Host0:00
Hello, welcome everyone. Thank you so much for joining from Adalo D Live today. It is now 2011 and we're getting ready to start our 45th Adalo D Live. Thanks for joining me here and making this such a successful program for all of us. We thought we'd have a very special guest who I always have a lot of fun with. We don't really have a script, we just kind of talk. We have a couple things we want to mention, but please welcome my good friend John Heald, who is our brand ambassador.
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John Heald0:33
John, camera, mic, hello. Am I working? Can you see me? I can't see you guys, I can only see my screen. But I'm sure you're working. Heather, can you see him? Okay, good. We can see John and we can hear you too. You can't see me? Hello everybody. I'm here with this incredibly important news for you, and that is that I am apparently in Gryffindor, which is a Harry Potter thing.
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Host1:06
Did you know that? No, I did not. What, are you really there or are you at home in London?
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John Heald1:10
No, no, I'm at home. But I tried the Sorting Hat on recently and I'm a Gryffindor, I reckon. You're a Slytherin. A Slytherin? I don't know anything about Harry Potter.
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Host1:23
Have you never seen Harry Potter? I've seen bits and pieces but I've never gotten into it. I do know that in, where is it that they filmed it? In New Zealand, right? Yes, or am I making that up? Yeah, it was that, because I was thinking the other one that was filmed in Croatia was something, Game of Thrones. So yeah, it was New Zealand they shot that there, and also The Real Housewives of Cleveland was shot there as well.
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John Heald1:49
Hello travel advisors! Hello! So many of you, my goodness. Hello everyone, it's great to see you. Thank you for being here with us and thank you Adalo for inviting me back. I'm very grateful to you.
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Host2:05
You're always a big draw.
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John Heald2:09
Well, there mustn't be anything on television right now, or I don't know. But it was great to see. I know a lot of people wrote to me today and said that they were going to come on and they'd come to the Dallas event, which was amazing and memorable for many reasons, including me checking in at the hotel and being handed my key and the dining information and then the information on what to do in a tornado, which apparently was hide in my bathtub. Now, no disrespect to the hotel we were staying in, but one of my thighs wouldn't fit in that bathtub. So I was supposed to hide in the bathtub.
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But yeah, that would be, I think that's, I mean I hate hurricanes more than you can imagine. I've been through quite a few, including Hurricane Andrew back in 1992, which actually I feel like I have PTSD from it. Anytime I hear about a hurricane coming, but a tornado, you'd really get no warning other than what you got at the hotel to hide in the bathtub. But those are so ferocious. I mean they don't do as much damage as a hurricane because hurricanes last much longer, but oh my god when they destroy, they destroy.
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John Heald3:23
Terri, what was interesting was everybody took it very seriously. I spoke to a lot of the travel agents at the start of the day and they were telling me, yes, we take it very seriously. But I can say, for obviously nobody watching this right now, but by the end of the evening and enjoying a few complimentary beverages care of Carnival Cruise Line, that a tornado could have gone right through the lobby and most of them would have not noticed.
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Yeah, I had an interesting day too. My Uber driver got into a minor accident on the 836, which you know, I don't know if you remember the traffic on 836. Anyway, I missed my flight so I wasn't going to be able to get in until like 11:30 that night. And since all of our events were that, whatever day that was, Wednesday or Thursday, no it was Wednesday, I had to skip it. So I wish I had been there. I know that, and actually I don't think I've ever been to an ASTA conference and my plan was definitely to be there. I know that we sponsored it in a big way because ASTA is very important, just like CLIA, and they sort of have their own separate roles that they follow. You know, ASTA is very much about the laws and making sure that travel advisors are able to work and that the cruise industry and other suppliers have support as well through their Congressional days and all that. So glad you were able to make it, John. I'm sure it was way better for you to be there than for me, because everybody loves to watch you and listen to your self-deprecating jokes like 'my thigh in the bathtub'.
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John Heald5:03
Well, it's a very small bathtub. I mean, you're the one who's suggesting my thigh is very big. I just said that it wouldn't fit in, but you've expanded on that. But we'll move along. We'll move along. I also have to say how excited I was, was it two weeks before that, three weeks, to be right where that ship is that you've just shown a picture of, and that of course is the Carnival Firenze. And I did make that one, yeah. We had a lot of fun.
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Adolfo Perez5:37
What did you think of the ship, Adalo? I think she's beautiful. Obviously reminds me of Venezia but has its own flare, obviously focused on Florence versus Venice. And then we have all the great stuff that we put on the Venezia, like the G Burger, the Il Viaggio, the Frante, all these great places that we've added to the ship to make it truly Carnival Fun Italian Style. But still the heart and soul of Carnival is on board, our crew members, team members on board, all Carnival people. And your guests would really enjoy trying something different, trying something new.
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John Heald6:17
It's, and that's what people are saying to me. It's a different kind of ship. You know, the foundation as you said is the same, the crew members and the service and the fun, but the ambience changes a little bit because of the design of the ship. And she's really at the top of the charts. I mean what people are saying is fabulous. I love the ship. Can I also mention the night before I joined the ship, I stayed on the ship behind you.
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Adolfo Perez6:47
No you didn't.
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John Heald6:48
Yes I did.
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Adolfo Perez6:49
You did? Yeah. Did it remind you of the original Mardi Gras?
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John Heald6:53
I have never... well let me just say that is quite an experience. First of all to see the old engine room and the teak decks and everything. I'm really careful here because I don't want to slam the hotel. It was a, they did not build the walls back then with any kind of soundproofing. And I kid you not, the room next to me, they were having a lot of... let's just say after half an hour I needed a cigarette. So that's not... I don't smoke.
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Adolfo Perez7:30
So you know, we had a sales meeting on the Queen Mary, God I don't even remember how many years, probably over 20 years ago. And we stayed on board and it didn't feel haunted. It did remind me seriously, it did remind me a bit of the Mardi Gras, the original, yeah. Very much, yeah.
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John Heald7:49
I wouldn't stay there again just because the walls were very thin and it was an interesting experience. But the Firenze is beautiful and the West Coast is really doing very well at the moment. We've got Miracle sailing from San Francisco and all those photos of sailing under the Golden Gate Bridge is just brilliant, really is.
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Adolfo Perez8:17
To say we have four ships in California now, so we have the Firenze, the Radiance, the Panorama, and then we have the Miracle. Is it Miracle now? I'm forgetting which one it was.
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John Heald8:25
The one you just said. Miracle. Miracle in San Francisco.
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Adolfo Perez8:29
The one I said three seconds ago. So yeah, paying very close attention to everything I say. I'm having some brain farts today.
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John Heald8:39
My French. One of the big things that we did here, John, you did a great job, I'm seeing this, was the naming. We had our second Godfather, and I have a little video to share here with everyone. So if you don't mind, I'll play it. Wait, let me make sure that the sound is shared. Yes.
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Adolfo Perez9:15
[Video plays] You may know Carnival Firenze is really the culmination, at least for the moment, of a very rapid period of growth that we've had over the past 18 months. Carnival Cruise Line has brought five new ships into the fleet, double-digit capacity increase overall in our fleet with beautiful, beautiful, beautiful ships for our great guests. And we carry more guests from California than any other cruise line. And with this ship, we're going to carry even more. And you know why? Because demand for Carnival cruises from Long Beach continues to grow. And that's why we're here. So in 2025, with this ship year-round, we'll offer more than 200 sailings and carry more than 750,000 guests. We're very honored to welcome Father Shabel Grabovac here. He is, thank you. Oh, my good friend, our Carnival Firenze Godfather, Jonathan Bennett. We are so thrilled that you're here to name this beautiful ship and to serve as Godfather. Jonathan and I always have so much fun when we're together. In observance of the ancient and sacred traditions of the sea, I hereby name this ship Carnival Firenze. May good fortune shine on all who work and sail on her, Firenze. And may she always have smooth seas and a following wind wherever she may sail. And now we're going to have some fun because clap along to the music and when all the champagne has been poured, we are all going to unite together in one very big salute. Keep that clapping going. Look at that, the champagne is flowing. That's the ship's bell that will permanently be here. And get ready for that big salute. The gang are going to raise their glasses. Salute! Salute!
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John Heald12:33
Now I don't know how many of you are going to get that song stuck in your head because we were watching the video making sure everything was working earlier and we couldn't get the song out of our head. So now it's at the beginning of the video, the end of the video. So promise me, let me know if it's stuck in your head like it is mine.
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Adolfo Perez13:01
Baby shark, baby shark.
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John Heald13:03
Are you trying to change out what's in my head? Curbed it. I've cured you. You don't remember that song. You're all singing Baby Shark.
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Adolfo Perez13:09
I couldn't remember the Miracle, how am I going to remember your song? That's true. Who am I?
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John Heald13:20
John, I don't know if you talked at all about your Sneak at Paradise for our Partners Summer Series we're doing.
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Adolfo Perez13:31
Yes, yes, I saw that. They get a view. I think it's fabulous. And can they still sign up for that?
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John Heald13:37
So they can still sign up for the virtual event which is on September 14th, the same day as the Chicago event. Believe it or not, by 9 o'clock the day we announced it, which was back on Travel Advisor National Travel Advisory Day, we were sold out by 9 pm. I don't know, we were trying to see if we could add a few more spots in Miami. Jerry, I don't know if...
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Adolfo Perez14:00
Yes, we opened more spots. We announced them yesterday and we have sold out as of this morning. So another record-breaking registration cycle for Miami.
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John Heald14:09
That's crazy. The other thing is that we thought about some of the other places as well, but the only problem is the venues wouldn't hold more than the 400 and some odd that we have registered. So if we can add more, we will. We'll advise you. And remember, they sell out really quick. We still have spots open for the virtual event. But this is going to be an exciting thing, John. I wish you would be able to come to one of them. It's sort of like our Agent Palooza tour but without the bus, thank God, because that was a long, long lot of driving. But these events are going to be very fun. We're going to have, we've been working with the Bahamian Ministry of Tourism. We will have authentic Bahamian food. We're going to make some mocktails and we're going to have real Junkanoo band from the Bahamas that will be at each of the events. And we'll do the best we can to replicate because we're going to be using the Chicago venue in order to do our live streaming, but it will be more than just live streaming. You'll have the opportunity to interact as well as to enter into the contest for the real sneak peek at Celebration Key sometime hopefully in January, February. Our first event is this Saturday. Glenn Thiel from our new ship builds and destination development will be there. He's going to talk about Celebration Key and maybe we can press him on the exact dates or around the same exact dates that we're going to be able to do that trip. But all-expense trip. We're going to have 10 winners, two at each of the live events as well as two at the virtual events, which is going to be really exciting. It'll be like a hard hat tour and really a special opportunity for travel advisors to learn even more about how it's progressing and what it's going to look like. John, you want to come?
Yeah, I'm looking at the September 14th one. Yeah, you want to come? You can if you want. Jerry, send me the details.
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Adolfo Perez16:25
Jerry? Yes sir. We'd love to. So enough about that. Oops, I'm not giving those away yet. So John, one of the things that's exciting is we're getting ready to start a European season, or we just did start our European season.
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John Heald16:39
Yes, Carnival Legend has just left Barcelona.
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Adolfo Perez16:43
I was going to say Pride.
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John Heald16:46
Yes, that was last year. Yeah, I know. I'm just kidding. I'm John, by the way. Nice to... I know, I know, I'm just kidding. Yeah, no, Carnival Legend just left Barcelona. She had a fabulous dry dock.
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Adolfo Perez16:59
Yeah, so we added the Heroes Bar and we added the Seaside Theater big screen on the Lido. And there was some, the spa, that steak spa, and the beautification, which is a lovely word made by very good-looking people with perfect teeth in the marketing department who used the word beautification. And it's a great word because the ship looks absolutely fabulous. I'll be driving to Dover, which is just over there, on the 16th of this month for her first arrival. So she was in Messina, Italy yesterday and Malta the day before. Tomorrow she's in Livorno, which is the gateway of course to three of Adalo's favorite places, including Tuscany, right? You love a bit of Tuscany, don't you? And Florence, or Firenze as we should say, and Pisa. And then she begins her British Isles cruises and cruises to Iceland, yeah. And then goes to places like Warnemünde in Germany, which gives you access to Berlin, and Helsinki in Finland, some Swedish ports. And then in August she'll move to, she's going to Rome. And from there they'll be able to do the Italian and the Med ports. And for all the travel advisors, of course, we are there next year on Carnival Mardi Gras. Carnival Miracle will be there and there are some exciting destinations, very similar. And in the autumn of this year we'll tell you about where we're going in 2026 and on what ship. So lots to look forward to.
Yeah, no, that's really... we took a couple years out of Europe and I'm so glad we're back. It really gives our travel advisors the opportunity to sell something different and to offer their past guests other opportunities, including Australia. We have the Splendor and the Luminosa. Today we made an announcement, the P&O brand is being sunset and two of the ships from the P&O brand will be merged into the Carnival fleet. And it is really a testament again to what Christine said in the video, the strong demand we have for the Carnival product. So we're going to grow almost 50, I think it's 50% by the time the second XL class ship joins the fleet, including these others. And just remember, if you think about Carnival, it's not just three and four day or seven out of Miami. We have Europe, we have transatlantic cruises, we have Australia, we have New Zealand, South Pacific. There's so many options. And trust me, a lot of your Carnival guests, our past guests, would be very interested in trying something new and different. And we offer a wide variety now of itineraries around the world.
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John Heald20:21
Yeah, I mean when you and I first started, we would never have guessed that we would be sailing from Australia and doing cruises in Europe. And I tell you what else is so popular is the Journey cruises, these 12 and 14 day cruises including the Panama Canal cruises and all these wonderful Journey cruises which are so popular. And yeah, you're right, we have so much to offer these days, it's quite incredible.
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Adolfo Perez21:07
Well, when I started, we only had seven-day cruises, Eastern Western Caribbean out of Miami.
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John Heald21:11
Yeah, yeah, I remember my first cruise. For the first three years I worked on the ships as the aerobics instructor, then as bar staff, and then as cruise director. I'll do the jokes then as cruise director. I only ever did the same cruise because that was the only one we ever did. Grand Cayman, Cozumel, and Aruba. That's it. That's what we did. Or Nassau, San Juan, and St. Thomas was another one. Yeah. And then we went really exotic, I mean really exotic, and we started going to St. Martin, which you know was still one of my favorite places. Do you want to do a quick fire? Let me do a quick fire one with you. Right, no thinking here, no brain farts.
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Adolfo Perez22:01
No brain farts. Are we allowed to say fart?
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John Heald22:05
Yeah, I wasn't sure. I don't want to offend any, because travel agents don't do that, do they?
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Adolfo Perez22:09
Of course not. Neither do I. It's just my brain.
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John Heald22:13
Okay, ready? Yeah. If you could spend, if you could make your own itinerary within the Caribbean, doesn't matter about speed, the ship can make it, you can pick three ports on a seven-day cruise, what would your three ports be?
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Adolfo Perez22:34
Aruba, St. Thomas for sure because I love, love, really St. John is my favorite place in the Caribbean and I know we can't really go there. But I just spent a few days in St. Barts last month and that is one of the most cool places you can go to. It's a very European island, great food, great restaurants, beautiful beaches, and just amazing. So I guess those would be the three ports I would do.
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John Heald23:10
Okay, three. And my three ports, a lot of people will disagree with my first one simply because it can be a little intimidating, but I love Jamaica. I think Ocho Rios has some of the most beautiful beaches, the most... I love the rainforest, I love the vibe of Jamaica. So that would be one. I'd agree with you on Aruba, that's my other favorite place. And I think if I was to choose a third one, I'd probably go with Bimini. Because again, I know it's not the most dynamic place, but it is so beautiful there. And if you just want a gorgeous day sitting on the beach doing absolutely nothing, Bimini or Half Moon Cay would be my choices.
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Adolfo Perez24:00
How about Europe? Three European ports?
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John Heald24:02
Oh, and Cleveland. I definitely have Cleveland in there. Cleveland is one of the most... European, three in Europe. Oh god, well maybe places that I've never been. So I think there's a Tallinn or something in Estonia, isn't that one of the ports that you can go to on the Miracle?
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Adolfo Perez24:32
Yeah, we have cruises next year on Miracle to Tallinn. Yeah, maybe I'll do that.
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John Heald24:43
Where else have you been? Dubrovnik, I love it. Right, let's both say Dubrovnik. Dubrovnik. And Palermo.
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Adolfo Perez25:02
We lost you. You went Palermo. Palermo. Three wonderful places. And I'm just going to throw one more thing out that I personally would love to do before I retire. I would like to take a ship from New York straight across to Southampton, leave the ship in Southampton for 48 hours, let people tour London, come back to the ship two days later, and sail straight back. So it's basically a 14-day cruise with a two or three night stop in London.
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John Heald25:40
Uh-huh. You know what, the one place that you didn't ask me about, maybe you're going to ask me, is Antarctica. I would love to do that.
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Adolfo Perez25:47
Oh, let's do that. Yeah, we'd love that. We just need you to... you and I could sit on the bow with like pickaxes, just chipping away at the ice, and they'd give us a free cruise.
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John Heald25:59
Said the only thing is I'm scared of the Drake Passage. It could be shake and bake or it could be lovely.
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Adolfo Perez26:05
Yeah, it can be a bit... but I think it'd be worth it just to go there though. I mean it would be pretty spectacular. Jerry, I'm asking questions. Jerry, I see there's loads. Do you want to shoot us a question before we do the giveaway?
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Jerry26:29
Sure. So we've gotten a question. We're actually getting a lot of questions about the event for Saturday for those of the agents that are registered. So just to let everybody know, we have sent out a 'know before you go' email to all of the advisors that officially registered for the Saturday event. So if you did register, you should have gotten that email that has all the information for you to come and join us on Saturday. So wanted to address that. We did get a question. John, I'm sure if you might know the answer to this though. One of the agents wanted to ask, what are some of the theme nights that are taking place aboard Carnival Jubilee?
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John Heald27:19
Aboard Jubilee. So we, on my Facebook page, once a month I post the schedule for the parties because they change all the time. But currently, the brilliant Kendall Fire, who's the cruise director, is hosting what they call a tailgate party, which is I guess an American tradition of a gate... she stands there holding open gates with a tailgate barbecue and beers, basically. Oh, there you go, barbecue and beers. There is the White Night party where everybody's asked to dress in white, and they have the 80s and Glow party which is with the glowing sticks and 80s music. And she also hosts a fabulous Motown party as well. So a lot of great stuff and that schedule is posted on my Facebook page. We'll have the new one by the end of this month.
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Jerry28:16
Perfect. Another question we're getting, maybe Adalo you can answer this one, is what tip or advice can you give to an advisor when trying to sell Firenze to their client?
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Adolfo Perez28:34
Well, I mean, the ship joined a fleet of three other ships that are sailing out of California and most of our guests are from California, obviously, and some of the surrounding states like Nevada, New Mexico. But that doesn't mean that we don't have people from all over the country. So if you want to try something different, think about, I mean I'm allowed to say it because it's Princess, one of our brands, think about The Love Boat if you remember. Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas. These are all places that out of the Caribbean or out of Miami or one of our home ports on the East Coast or even in the Gulf ports, you don't get an opportunity to see. So it's a completely different experience. Not only is the ship completely different from our other ships, it's very similar to Vista class in size and all, but when you get on board you'll definitely feel the big difference of the decor, some of the layout, some of the venues that we have available and some of the parties and things that we do. So if they want to experience something different both from an itinerary perspective and an onboard experience, this is definitely something they should try because like I said you can't get to those ports from the East Coast. And from the West Coast, it just opens up this whole other opportunity. You know, we do some overnight stays in Cabo which is just, I mean I went there back in 1984 on the Tropical, believe it or not. Roger Blum was the chief purser and I remember thinking how cool and different it was then. I can only imagine now, Cabo San Lucas is just spectacular. Back then, I'm sure it's even more spectacular now. And Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, and any of the other ports that we get opportunity to visit on the West Coast. So my thing is, if they're on the West Coast, this is typically what they would take anyway because it's so convenient, they can drive to it, short flights. But even...
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John Heald30:45
Even Adalo has frozen. So let me... oh, he's there again. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
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Adolfo Perez30:51
No, you froze. So I was trying to pretend. Carry on, sorry. I don't know where you got... where I left off.
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John Heald30:57
You left off with that the ship is very different. The foundation of the crew, you're basically getting two for one here because you're getting all of the incredible fun but it's done in such a different ambience. I mean the center, the atrium with the pillar and the Golden Lion at the top, the beautiful decor of the lounges, the outdoor library on the one deck above Lido, the dining rooms which are stunning. The architecture is very different to say the entertainment architecture that we have. I think it's a wonderful ship to sell, I really do. I was talking a lot about the itinerary, I don't know if you guys got me or not, but I was talking about...
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Adolfo Perez31:51
You did hear that? Yeah, we froze. You froze on Roger Blum. Okay.
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John Heald31:59
Anyhow, a different ship experience as well as different itinerary options for most guests that typically sail out of the Caribbean, out of Miami or one of the East Coast ports.
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Jerry32:12
Yeah, Adalo, we're getting a lot of feedback from the advisors right now about the cabins, the staterooms on board Firenze, that they're amazing. A lot of good feedback we're getting right now.
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Adolfo Perez32:20
Oh, awesome. Yeah, no, they are great. Another question we've gotten a lot of today that would love to hear from probably both of you is what are you most excited about Celebration Key? There's a lot of information coming out. We've been sharing and talking a lot about Celebration Key, but what are you most excited about for it? My, at least from my perspective, the beach club, even though we haven't announced any real details, I think that's coming out later this month or next month. And it is an elevated experience that will be for adults only with the cabanas, the regular cabanas and beds, and there'll be an upgraded dining option there as well. And just the fact that we'll have such an amazing destination for our ships. You know, right now we have 500 itineraries calling at Celebration Key. We will have four piers there so we'll be able to dock up to four Excel class ships. We probably won't dock four there until we expand Celebration Key. There's a plan to expand just, I think it would be on the south side, just east of where we are today. It will be a bigger destination and there's just going to be so much for adults and for kids and for everyone to do. And we're excited to share as much as we can at our events coming up, at your Sneak at Paradise, your Sneak Peek at Paradise. So very excited.
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John Heald34:05
Yeah, I'm just excited that we have a new destination. You know, the fact that on some of the shorter cruises as well that we can offer an alternative to some of the places that we've been going to for a long time. And the fact that we can, you know, our years of experience of listening to the comments from the guests, from your clients, our guests, to know what they want in a private destination. I think that we're able to offer something very, very special. And it's going to be busy. There's going to be so much to do. And of course if that's not your thing, then we've still got Half Moon Cay, which for most people is Paradise. It's their size of... and we will hopefully soon be building the pier there as well, which will make a big difference. But I'm just excited that we have a place that we can create based on all of the fun and the knowledge that we've gained over the years. This is going to be, I think it's going to be jaw-dropping, amazing. I really do.
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Adolfo Perez35:14
It will be a game changer for us for sure. And then we have our next one coming up on Tuesday, July 23rd, with my good friend and longtime colleague of over 40 years, Vicki Ray. And we will be announcing more details, but this will be Tuesday, July 23rd at 2 pm Eastern time. All right, I think that's it. Everyone, thank you so much for joining us today. John, really appreciate your participation. Thank you. And just a big thank you to everybody for all the hard work you do. Once a month, around the 28th or 29th of every month, I have on my Facebook page, which is my name, I have an open day for travel advisors. I make a post to thank you and ask if you'd like to advertise your agency, do so below. I did this last week and we had over 700 travel advisors and comments of people who expressed, 'I've got the best travel advisor.' And it's so fun reading the friendships that people have, not just that people have got a travel advisor, they've got a friend who started as a travel advisor but now became their friend. So at the end of every month, look for that post on my page. Please feel free to write what you want, post your details. And I know a lot of people have received some really good feedback and able to pick up some new clients as well. And thank you for all your support. Apart from the lady who tried to drag me onto the dance floor... I can't say what... it was lovely to meet many of you. It was like there was like 10 of them, it was like the zombie movies where they all come to and they were trying to drag me onto the dance floor. So I ran away. And Jerry did nothing to help. Thank you everybody. Thank you Adalo. Thank you so much for your support of travel advisors. Really appreciate it and I know they do too. Thank you. Thanks.