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Rotating Chairman, Huawei

Live: Huawei unveils AI chip and computing framework 华为人工智能(AI)芯片与全新开源计算框架发布会

🎥 Aug 23, 2019 📺 CGTN ⏱ 84m 👁 31599 views
Huawei launches its Ascend 910 AI Processor & MindSpore Computing Framework in south China's Shenzhen. The company aims at boosting computing power for the development of artificial intelligence technology.
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About Eric Xu

Eric Xu, Rotating Chairman of Huawei, stated at the company’s 2022 Annual Report Press Conference in March 2023 that the year ahead would be “crucial to Huawei's sustainable survival and development,” citing a “challenging external environment” and “non-market factors” that continue to affect operations. He said Huawei would focus on unlocking new growth opportunities, enhancing business resilience, and ensuring product competitiveness. Xu also estimated that Huawei’s addressable markets would exceed one trillion US dollars by 2027. In earlier appearances, Xu commented on the impact of U.S. sanctions on the semiconductor industry, stating that China’s semiconductor industry would “take efforts to self-save” and that he believed it would “realize a very strong and self-reliant industry.” He also discussed Huawei’s investment in research and development, noting that the company invests more than 10% of revenue annually, and highlighted the role of ICT technology in reducing industrial emissions. At the 2021 Global Analyst Summit, Xu said that “unwarranted U.S. sanctions” could trigger a new global economic crisis<|begin▁of▁file|>.

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Transcript (72 segments)
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Host0:07
Good morning to journalists in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the UK, Brussels, and Austria who are watching this by webcast. We are broadcasting today's event live over the internet, so welcome to you too. When journalists write about Huawei these days, they tend to describe us as a telecoms equipment company, Huawei, or maybe a smartphone manufacturer, Huawei. And we are absolutely both of those things, but we're also a company in the IT space, in artificial intelligence, and chipsets, and intelligent computing, and that's what today is about. Huawei launched its AI strategy at Huawei Connect last year. Today we're going to give you an update on that, and to do that, please welcome to the stage, Rotating Chairman and Deputy Chairman of the Board, Mr. Eric Xu.
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Eric Xu1:20
Ladies and gentlemen, friends from the press, analysts, and friends, good morning, good afternoon, because we have more than 100 friends from the press joining us online. They come from Europe, so good morning to you. Many of you may have attended the Huawei Connect conference last year in Shanghai. At that event, I officially announced Huawei's AI strategy as well as our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio. I also outlined major changes that we need to make to help make AI more pervasive and accessible. We hope all industry players will work together to drive changes and close the gap between AI-related reality and AI-related potential. And over the fall, we have been working hard on several of those areas. So today, the launch event is about an update of our latest progress. First of all, please allow me to brief you on our AI strategy, which has five pillars that I introduced last year. First, we invest in AI research. We set up a Noah's Ark Lab. We develop fundamental ML capabilities in computer vision, natural language processing, and decision inference, focusing on data and power efficiency, namely using less data, computing, and energy. Security and trustworthiness is another area of focus. Automation and autonomy is the third one. So that's the responsibility of our Noah's Ark Laboratory. The second part of our strategy is to build a full-stack AI portfolio adaptive to all scenarios, including both standalone and cooperative scenarios between cloud, edge, and the device. We also aspire to provide abundant and affordable computing power and an efficient, easier-to-use AI platform with all four pipeline services. The third pillar is to cultivate a challenging and open ecosystem, working extensively with global academia, industries, and partners. Fourthly, we will strengthen the existing portfolio by bringing AI into all of Huawei's products and solutions to create greater value and make them more competitive. The fifth part of that is to drive operational efficiency by using AI to automate high-volume, repetitive tasks for better efficiency and quality.
Last year, I also launched our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio. By taking today's opportunity, I'd like to reiterate and take you through this full-stack, all-scenario portfolio. The portfolio covers all development scenarios, including public cloud, private cloud, edge computing, IoT, industry devices, and consumer devices. That's what all-scenario is about. And the full-stack is from a technical or functionality perspective, that includes chips, chip enablement, training and inference frameworks, as well as application enablement. There are a couple of areas for full-stack. One is the Ascend IP and the chip series, which is based on a unified, scalable architecture. In this series, we have Ascend 910, Max, Mini, Lite, Tiny, and Nano. The other part is the CANN chip operators library and highly automated operators developing toolkit. The third part is MindSpore, a unified training and inference framework for device, edge, and cloud. The other part is application enablement, which is ModelArts, including full pipeline services, hierarchical APIs, and integrated solutions. So last year, we launched our AI strategy as well as the full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio. Also last year, we launched our very first AI processor, the Ascend 310, primarily used for edge computing and inference. Today, Ascend 310 has been widely adopted in a range of edge scenarios. There are three primary series based on Ascend 310: MDC, Mobile DC; the other is Atlas, including as well as computing AI accelerated modules and servers; the other is cloud services. Today, these solutions are widely used in our partnership with carmakers to address intelligence and automation needs. The Atlas cards and servers are widely used by our partners, and they use them for smart transportation, smart power. It's also used widely for heating and wastewater processing that is closely linked with people's livelihood. Cloud services based on Ascend 310 are for video analysis. There are more than 50 APIs related to this. Based on Ascend 310, providing cloud services, the daily API calls has exceeded 100 million, and this figure is expected to hit 300 million by the end of this year. At the same time, we also launched ModelArts, a full-pipeline model production service. It provides model developing services spanning the full pipeline from data collection, model development, to model training and deployment. Today, there are more than 4,000 training tasks per day for a total of 32,000 training hours. 85% are related to visual processing, 10% audio processing, and 5% are related to machine learning. And today, there are more than 30,000 developers using our ModelArts. Today, what I'm going to show you is Ascend 910, the industry's most powerful AI processor.
In October last year, we actually disclosed the tech specs of Ascend 910. Today, I will show you more about how it actually performs in tests. Test results show that the Ascend 910 processor delivers on its performance goals. For high-precision floating-point operators, Ascend 910 delivers 256 teraflops, and for integer precision calculations, it delivers 512 teraops. More importantly, its max power consumption is only 310 watts, much lower than specified. Under the same conditions, its computing power is twice that of the mainstream benchmark. Ascend 910 performs much better than we expected and better than our design specs. It is now already used for full AI model training. In a typical training session based on ResNet-50, the combination of Ascend 910 and MindSpore trains models about two times faster than other mainstream training cards. Using TensorFlow, Ascend 910 can train 1,803 images per second, while the existing benchmark is 965 images per second. As for the key technologies, we have a video clip. This is a 7nm Da Vinci architecture-based AI core for the compute engine. In addition to scalar and vector units, the AI core integrates a 3D cube computing engine. It completes 4,096 MAC ops per cycle, more than two orders of magnitude larger than what CPUs and GPUs can deliver. Ascend 910 has 32 cubes inside, providing 256 teraflops. Not just a powerful AI coprocessor, Ascend 910 is a highly integrated SoC comprised of CPUs, DVPP, and task scheduler. As well, Ascend 910 has self-managing capability that can minimize data interchange with the host. By eliminating this overhead, the unprecedented computing power can be fully utilized. Highly efficient communication mechanism is another key for a training system. Ascend 910's self-developed HCCS can deliver 240 gigabits per second for each port. Latest PCIe guarantees twice the throughput compared with previous generations. Lastly, on-chip 100G RoCE enables direct data exchange between multiple nodes, which improves training cluster performance and flexibility. High computing power, high level of integration, and ultra-fast interconnection together build Ascend 910, the world's most powerful AI processor.
Ascend 910 is only the start. Moving forward, we continue investing in AI processors to meet different needs of a broad range of scenarios. There are a couple of Ascend series for edge computing based on Ascend 310. Our plan is to launch Ascend 310 in 2021. The existing MDC is based on Ascend 310, currently used for autonomous driving. In the future, for large-scale commercial use, we'll be launching Ascend 1616 and Ascend 620. For AI training, today we officially launched Ascend 910. In the future, we are going to launch Ascend 920, so that we can come up with a whole series of AI processors for different scenarios, so as to provide powerful and affordable computing resources for research and industrial adoption. Today, I would also like to announce the release of MindSpore, our all-scenario AI computing framework. We know AI computing frameworks are critical to making AI application development easier, making AI applications more pervasive and accessible, and ensuring privacy protection. That's where an AI application development framework comes in. For that purpose, at Huawei Connect last year, we announced three development goals for our AI framework: easy deployment, which substantially reduces training time and costs; efficient execution, which uses the least amount of resources; and most importantly, it needs to be adaptable to all scenarios, including device, edge, and clouds. MindSpore marks significant progress towards all three dimensions. It is adaptable to all scenarios across all devices, edge, and clouds, and provides on-demand cooperation between them. Its 'AI algorithm as code' design concept allows developers to develop advanced AI applications. That means people working on algorithms do not necessarily have to have strong coding capabilities, so that would bring much ease of use and train models much more quickly. Through framework innovation as well as co-optimization of MindSpore and Ascend processors, our solution can ensure stronger performance and more efficient execution. MindSpore does not only support Ascend 910, it also supports other GPUs and CPUs or other processors available in the industry. Many people have asked me the question: now that we have TensorFlow or PyTorch, what's the point of MindSpore that Huawei works on? I've been telling these people that right now, none of the existing frameworks can support all scenarios. Well, you can look at our portfolio, we cover devices, edge, and clouds. Furthermore, data privacy protection has become a more important topic than ever, and the support for all scenarios is essential for enabling secure, pervasive AI. This is also a key component in our MindSpore framework. Resource budgeting environments can be big or small as needed. MindSpore also helps ensure user privacy because it only deals with the gradient and model information that has already been processed. It doesn't process the data itself, so private user data can be effectively protected even in cross-scenario environments. In addition, MindSpore has built-in model protection technology to ensure the models are secure and trustworthy. In addition, MindSpore is built on a concept called 'AI algorithm as code.' This design concept allows developers to develop advanced AI applications with ease and train their models more quickly. In a typical neural network for natural language processing, MindSpore has 20% fewer lines of code than existing frameworks on the market, and it helps developers raise their efficiency by at least 50%. Through framework innovation as well as co-optimization of MindSpore and Ascend processors, our solution can help developers more effectively address complex AI computing challenges and the need for a diverse range of computing power. This results in stronger performance and more efficient execution. In addition to Ascend processors, MindSpore also supports other processors as well. And we also make MindSpore developer-friendly. Adopting an 'AI algorithm as code' concept, MindSpore enables a host of new technologies, including source-to-source automatic differentiation, which vastly outperforms graph and operator overload. MindSpore can achieve differential expression and compiler optimization for any operator and automatic generation of inverse operators. This makes model development as easy as ABC. As data sets and model scales grow ever larger, parallel processing is inevitable. Regardless of how time-consuming and difficult it is to implement, MindSpore is here to help. By simply defining a standalone model, MindSpore can automatically implement multi-machine hybrid parallel operations. MindSpore also supports both static and dynamic graphs, allowing for seamless switching with only one statement, making model debugging easy and efficient. MindSpore provides Ascend-native runtime efficient technology to maximize the computing power of Ascend chips. In the host-device model, interaction between the CPU and GPU creates large memory and data overhead. MindSpore controls and executes the entire neural network model training on the chip, reducing interaction with the host CPU and improving training speeds. Existing distributed training models introduce central controls to define gradient synchronization points. MindSpore instead uses point-to-point distributed gradient aggregation and completely eliminates control overhead. Software and hardware are optimized to map different types of operators to their optimal computing unit and data layout, achieving exceptional performance. With MindSpore, mathematicians and researchers are being given an invaluable tool that makes theoretical exploration and innovation easier and more efficient. To drive AI application, in order to encourage the entire industry to build MindSpore into a real all-scenario computing framework, MindSpore will go open-source in the first quarter of next year, so as to help every developer and encourage every developer to participate. With this launch of Ascend 910 and MindSpore, Huawei has unveiled all the key components of our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio. As you might be aware, Kirin Lite is already used in Kirin 980, used in Honor and Nova phones. And Ascend Tiny, we're going to have Kirin 990, which Richard Yu will be launching at IFA this year. Kirin 990 is based on a neural processing unit, Ascend Lite. So last year, we promised a full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio, and today we delivered. This is a new milestone for Huawei, it's also a new start. We look forward to working together more deeply with partners around the world to build pervasive AI to benefit every individual, every home, every organization. We also hope all partners can work together with Huawei to promote the development of AI so that AI can benefit society. Thank you.
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Thank you, Eric. Yeah, it's time to turn the conference over to you for your questions. We're going to move some tables onto the frontier. So just while we're doing that, let me talk about the process for Q&A. We will take questions from domestic Chinese media and then international media. When you raise your hand, right hand is okay, left hand is okay, we'll get a microphone to you. If you just tell us your name and the title you're from and your question, please. Restrict your questions to one per person. We don't have enough time for everybody to get a question, and we will from time to time introduce questions from overseas audiences today. Is that okay? Okay, so I'd like to invite back to the stage, please, Mr. Eric Xu. I'd like to invite Jack Jia. Jack is the General Manager for Cloud Services. Peng Sun, Strategic Architect. Huawei, who's the chipsets of our fellow. So for the Q&A, we will conduct it both in Chinese and English. Ken Wong will be the interpreter in a consecutive manner. So bear with us as we go through this process. Okay, ready? Okay, I'm looking for hands. Right hands. Lady in the front. CCTV, this way for the microphone.
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CCTV Reporter22:47
My question relates to the next steps of Huawei. Which products and services are we going to see adoption of, and what is your plan in terms of our industry development? Thank you.
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Eric Xu24:38
I would like to address your question with a kind of commercial or advertisement. At Huawei Connect this year, scheduled on September 18th in Shanghai, we'll be launching more new groundbreaking AI products. Ken, who will be serving with you, more detailed information by then. As for the next steps for our plan for the AI industry, we'll be promoting and working on our already established AI strategy and our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio step by step. You know, all the key components have already been launched. We'll continue to work on the constant iteration and new versions. We also hope our AI-related products and solutions can gain more adoption and recognition in the market from customers and partners, so that AI can benefit more people in China and around the world.
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Okay. I'm looking for the next question. I've seen the lady in the front. Get a microphone to the lady at the front.
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Indian Express Reporter26:04
Hi, Hansa from Indian Express, India. So what will be your AI strategy in India, especially with the uncertainty of Huawei's 5G allowed in the country?
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Eric Xu28:00
Our AI strategy is not necessarily tied to 5G. 5G is 5G, and AI is AI. As for our AI strategy in India, it's no different from our overall strategy. We are going to develop Atlas cards, servers based on Ascend processors as well. We're also going to work on MDC products based on the Ascend processors as well. Those products can be provided to universities, partners, and enterprises in India as they develop industry AI applications to address industry-specific issues and challenges and to create value. Similarly, we have training and inference cloud services based on Ascend processors as well that can also be made available in the Indian market. Universities, research organizations, and enterprises can use those AI cloud services for their research and application development needs, so as to address the requirements and challenges of different industry verticals. In short, we are going to provide products and services, and we are going to work together with partners to address the needs of different industry verticals, serve them, help them be more efficient, so that we together can contribute to the development of society.
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Host29:35
The lady in the black and white blouse in the front row.
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Chinese Reporter29:41
My question is about the Ascend 910. It was already launched at Huawei Connect last year. It's already two months, during which there have been quite some internal and external factors. So my question first is whether those factors have affected the speed of Huawei's AI strategy execution. If yes, how? And you also mentioned that AI is being used for autonomous driving. So what is Huawei's progress in autonomous driving?
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Eric Xu31:06
I think the incident on May 16th has had no impact on the execution of Huawei's AI strategy and also the R&D and commercialization of AI-related products. Even though there have been many changes in the external environment, the execution of our AI strategy, the R&D and commercialization of Huawei's AI products have been going steadily and orderly. Also, we are living up to our original plan and expectations. As for autonomous driving, since we launched our joint research results with Audi, we have stepped up our investment in that area. We also work together with all carmakers on MDC products. We support and help them to come up with autonomous driving solutions. Of course, there is still some way to go before we reach fully autonomous driving, but I think it is possible that we can get there step by step. We also develop autonomous driving solutions ourselves, which we take and work together with our car OEMs. So for those co-designed cars, we can demonstrate the autonomous driving capabilities and experience. When we look at the future of autonomous electric cars, we position ourselves as a provider of incremental components. For that purpose, we have set up a new business unit called Intelligent Automotive Solutions, so as to drive the progress of this business. Our vision is to leverage our AI capabilities in our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio, working together with the carmakers to really deliver on autonomous driving.
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Host35:11
Kasim from Sri Lanka Daily Financial Times. You spoke about great adoption of AI. Is Huawei satisfied with the level of adoption in the market? If not, three things that you would like from the customer side for greater adoption?
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Eric Xu35:55
I would say we are satisfied, because if I say we're not satisfied, many people would have a different opinion on that.
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Host36:07
I want to come to the lady in the white blouse at the back on the edge.
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Chinese Reporter36:14
You also announced a timeline for the AI computing framework to go open-source. A very important part of AI is the development of an ecosystem. That's also the area Google and Facebook have invested in for a long time. So what's Huawei's plan to build your own ecosystem? What other measures are you going to take to win the trust of developers?
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Eric Xu37:23
We all know the development of an ecosystem is very important. That also points to the biggest challenge for MindSpore: whether we can set up as compelling an ecosystem as the other mainstream frameworks currently available in the market. But there are advantages for Huawei when it comes to ecosystem development, because we have smart devices in our portfolio. We have a HiAI engine in the smart devices, where the developers on mobile applications can access Huawei's AI computing power to develop different types of applications and services leveraging our capabilities. In addition, we also have computing power. The combination of our computing power, or the processor capability, with the MindSpore computing framework can help Huawei do something where the other framework players cannot. As I mentioned just now, through architectural innovation of MindSpore and through co-optimization of MindSpore and Ascend processors, it can substantially increase the efficiency of AI. Certainly, we have had a mission to ourselves: we want to make AI development as simple as possible. If you look at the reality today, AI is still a game for experts. As I mentioned last year, we have ModelArts, our full-pipeline model production service. The idea is to enable ordinary engineers to be able to develop AI applications. If ModelArts can truly deliver on that mission, then we would contribute hugely for the development of the ecosystem. As we said last year, whether AI can truly take off, there are a couple of important factors. One of which is whether the enterprise market would take off, or in other words, whether there would be more enterprises and industries to adopt AI.
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Host41:46
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Eric Xu42:08
Huawei has quite comprehensive and a strong enterprise business that's also another advantage we have as we built out our AI related ecosystem.
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Host42:19
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Eric Xu42:58
We are going to rely a lot of our advantages of a comprehensive portfolio spanning device, edge, and cloud, and also our full-stack, all-scenario AI portfolio to address that challenge head-on. And to work on ecosystem, and only when the ecosystem truly takes off, the all-scenario full-stack portfolio can deliver value.
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Host43:27
Okay, I'm going to take a question from the UK and it comes from Chris Kelly who is from Total Telecom in the UK. Will the Ascend 910 AI processor be made available in the UK? If so, when can we expect to see it available?
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Eric Xu43:49
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Host45:14
And we're coming to this group to the gentleman on the front in the black jacket.
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Eric Xu46:07
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Eric Xu47:57
We're going to have cloud services for both inference and training based on Ascend 910. Currently we already have two international nodes, one is Singapore, the other is Hong Kong that can cover Vietnam. The other words we can have cloud services based on Ascend 910 already covering Vietnam market.
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Host48:26
Thank you. I want to come to the lady on the side of the room on the front row with the white t-shirt.
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Eric Xu49:52
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Eric Xu50:48
In addition we also are open to discuss partnerships with the AI chipset developing companies so that there are chipsets of various kinds can be possibly used for different types of computing scenarios. This is so bad yeah the team can do you mean just the top person pushing do that therefore it's not going to happen where AI chipset will be positioned as a standalone business and is not a new stage from that point of view.
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I'm looking to the international side gently on the front only edge my name is Hamada from Tokyo and I have a question not on AI but on smartphone business is that okay thank you. Two months ago mr. Ren Zhengfei said that the in this room far away and dissipate smartphone sales this year could drop 40 percent with compared with last year due to the US sanctions could you tell us whether the prospects unchanged.
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Eric Xu52:10
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Thank you. Go to the gentleman in the glasses and Hanukkah movies and has you not how you go pure Yahoo and so that you get something to alia has eusociality osso bucco that's the treaty two sided bigger just a meeting tonight the question is what is the reference pricing point of Ascend 910 we know Nvidia's V100 is priced at about 10 thousand US dollars per units and that there is also a market price for TPU v3 so what about Ascend 910.
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Eric Xu54:01
The price will not be very high but is not decided. Let me clarify the price point for Ascend 910 will not be higher than those offerings but is not finalized yet.
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Host54:26
We got a question from Army in Belgium in Brussels. The European Commission has put a strong emphasis on ethical AI and released a set of guidelines and recommendations earlier this year and their pursuit to maintain ethics in AI. To what extent is Huawei also bearing in mind the ethics of AI when launching open-source platforms and new AI technologies.
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Eric Xu54:52
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Eric Xu56:45
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Eric Xu57:30
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Colleges continue to evolve we have been seen the environmental pollution issues are climate change issues therefore the center of a debate around the technical ethics is how to enable a harmonious coexistence between people and nature.
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Eric Xu58:53
Then she put on the gaudiya Fadden tion patron farinelli's patron van ho ho the derry-o recession su chio put on the one day the material only overlay in dungeons and adult high is indeed in ship syndrome Concordia put on the shelter but different countries have different stages when it comes to their economic developments their history and their culture therefore they may come up with a differently understanding around what is harmonious coexistence that is a situation and a reality that people have to very mind any respects when we have a technical ethics our discussions bearing in mind the differences of a timing of a geographies and of a specific specific situations Peru languages and legal treatise in Union cities and in Syria Caillou is sitting the Genco nabatea a girl sitting the universe acadia soda chin so young boy was Doron DiSanto pesticide prokovich adequate as an amputee so that tech boom gua is a crazy soda so he chooses high they don't hire a book to give you one example a very typical AI application is our computer vision and in a video surveillance surveillance this is something that is accepted in the UK it is a set there are more than 500,000 cameras on the street in the UK is also accepted here in China but it's definitely not something that people accept in Germany or other European countries that's a very good example in terms of the differences that people should bear in mind when we talk about technology ethics.
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Well mr. Dooley the Gherkin number and Tiernan's happened that doesn't get ya yeah I shall go I would say we're being working hard to see whether we can develop or light up this a beacon of talents but we need to take away Tennessee approach to see whether we can really deliver the data.
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Canada oh man did you know you can't Estonian t5 she wants to steal a change ho that girl can test on you and I read on her way then go to a woman mr. Willett the father nice talkin shame and some of you might have noticed our hallway has launched a program to attract young and genius from around the world we want to bring those brightest minds on boards so that we together can contribute to the future of this organization they just want me to gain yarn and happened has hatched at sea that's one of the measures we are taking to light up this our talent our beacon just a minute or a yes such an current the gadget put her but had Egypt Oh miss moriata take a moment Asia take agenda fossil the Shinto to take one I got.
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We have done one thing recently that some people in the industry may not necessarily understand. We made the compensation on members of the top of PhD students widely available just a woman today take sound gential gafsa woman thundermans have a job you find uncommon to good debut the holiday some people might wonder why I waited that actually we want you to make everyone aware what is the value of a real talent in Huawei and it that's also a gesture of a welcoming real parent minds to join forward just a world or so go to go kosher romantic sometimes in here there's a girl - choco Oh Utica champion took a bigger house Alicia sighs yeah it's a sushi shop she assumed and the girl and her family just there's one story which I shared in the past for the Da Vinci architecture Houston Ascend chips the decision to initiate data project was not a top-down our decision is actually a bottom-up decision that's also a very good example to tell you how and where talent to the people in faraway can play an important role.
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New Orleans has 2002 soon yeah yo cousin hi Stapleton regarding you an extra part of the question where the hallway has enough AI talents even after 10 years time down the road Alice do you say no we don't have enough AI talent for some reason Sanjana yes that's fine yeah putting John I always think the pass on yeah so Johnson Sojat what idea son I'll see what that Sonya but when mr. Ren said AI is a big industry it's not just a for far away AI is a big industry for the entire world look to the internet gentlemen in the gray jacket on the front row third from the edge.
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Sue me didn't wanna test heat indices on the controversial hole we already get used to stop a stop living and working with our entity Lester restrictions a woman a solution when we are the good citizens in Kahuku newton signal to lights put a colander and we also believe is not very likely for hallway to be relieved from a such a living and working state say if I wouldn't say AHA how are they gonna heart eating some foreign star intern b'hala Tom she said isn't Amaya Kanto horseshoe ho that's a girl to pay so for hallway as a company and for our employees we have a fully realized and we have been fully prepared for living with and working with a such an environment for a long time so it's all the woman's a good son will add that the the girl the girl boobie all that hateful okay don't worry yep okay Luca yet therefore there would be no impact and on the future both map of Ascend processors and there will be no delay of our predefined a roadmap you go woman cheerful yes I'm sure that isn't too much at you condo horse uncle you didn't reject you but I won't if we know that we have to be prepared for living and working under such circumstances for a long time a little bit of inventory cannot help much chairwoman Zhang Jia your condolence included concluded yeah so as long as you come to visit us often you'll see with your own eyes what is our latest status in terms of a working and living in the currently environments.
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I know your current processor uses a seven nanometer process technology so which foundry helped you produce that processor and what's your comments on China's the status today when it comes to production and fabrication a fabrication and this is a question that actually does not have much value.
In the Cajun review hi I'm reporter from an occasion review actually to follow up regarding the future development of the Ascend series going forward I'm just wondering if you can share your current business relationship with companies like Cadence and Synopsys would they may 16 incident would affect your capability to design the next generation chips going forward thank you very much.
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Eric Xu1:11:54
Just reconsider when the users away like haha wait a tiger sentence silly a Faton 20 some wit notice how a mood shangkun cadence synopsis sale a consider science class of Banja Luka wrongful tie reality and fashion to ho-hoo equate in Santa for way citation Panda 2 shows you know and that your engine for this you consider putting gum tissue holla as you all know this companies cannot continue working with Huawei that's the case I put engines examine but there it will always be other alternative our companies mmm mr. Santa CNT my you couldn't be a the situation here if we look back 10 years ago there was basically no tools available still people can design now to our chipset San Antonio Chang again you can easily book on you know McCulloch the back woman can walk on the many machines and that's the film a or book for you yeah that's good time definitely there would be challenges we have to tackle the efficiency you would not be as high as past and we may need to take on more were close but this is not something or a challenge that is not that is insurmountable but there's some kind intelligent vegetal to secure the girls you constantly looking further in history Intel already came up with the CPUs in nineteen seventies and the companies you mentioned are just now were not even established.
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Thank you I want to take a question from the journalists and Brussels Matthew Newman Alex European governments rejected the European Commission's proposal to have a Wi-Fi be a standard for connected cars while Bobby is working with 5g networks is the European Union's failure to have a standard and impediment to your investment in Europe will probably continue to invest in connected car projects in Europe without a common mobile standard less ego 20 come to the other Hoskins I also go to tuneful I'm county-owned so way I'll quit that Oh milady Joshua is actually on one knee me a commission to te TV Wi-Fi or away the hostage if you would see Majid or Chilean Wow Roberto also mentions ago sure to come here mufasa centimeter ultra super waiting some talk far ways I also tell you my family take a tour route one condemned no way to Yugi cause the DeWitt workers took 31 to see which works to - how did you find I mean you can a job seeker Sanjay ya Yin take the issue in this terminal idiot from our perspective we definitely believe 5g or cellular v2x can is the bestest solution for connecting the cars and it does already approved through technology and through testing done across the industry.
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Eric Xu1:15:24
Omen testament the way the tissue destro Inc I took a way to attend to the Jetta and we believe the European Union will be making the right decision as they choose the future technologies for connecting the cars.
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Eric Xu1:15:50
However no matter is a cellular V2X or Wi-Fi for Huawei from business perspective is nothing more than providing a module thank you did you find your wife at you - fine we have both 5g solutions as well as Wi-Fi solutions for connecting the cars.
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Syrota GG almond didn't get hit so it's gonna be up to the final decision of the European Union. Okay we have five minutes left which maybe is one maybe two questions lady in the front at the end consider will ya I want Eva the Onizuka her she's on shout out to senior night official geothermic on a bio he made things go south WA which I always I'm a penguin watching a goon search Kenya Etonian Arjun kidding so she you girl together you go you want to show me an easy torture girl - poor - girl Kyra which I was actually the Kyra nice young actress the homeowner mocha initial for the attorney to the current easy way since 2002 Okada to the Johan have entirety new girl count on the cover song that was sung we got a question somebody sample sure - true Dharma I shall be a girl yeah they're cool yo that Johnny good look identical this is it from poem pioneers to questions Eric you mentioned just now that always revenue on smart devices this year might be more than 10 10 billion US dollars less than expected so do we have any numbers regarding the estimate revenue for the whole company for 2019 and the second you also mentioned that while we will go open source on my sport in the first quarter of next year there are more details to share here for the Harmony OS far we also said that you are going to set up a open source foundation to encourage more developers to come on boards so any more detailed information regarding open source initiative four minus four is this gonna be a huawei dominated a program oh it's gonna be shared across the globe and system.
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Eric Xu1:18:10
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Eric Xu1:19:20
As for the open sources strategy for the all scenario AI computing framework - Huawei is not a final answer yet. Once we launch as we go open source on MindSpore in Q1 next year we'll also launch our open source strategy together with it.
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Okay I want to give the final question to Reuters at the back on the camera platform.
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Or a thank you Joe or so my question will be like which are the comparable chipsets from outside companies are Ascend 910 is going to replace and are you being supplied those chipsets at the moment given the u.s. ban and does the Ascend 910 and it's the main gist structure have anything to do with the ARM structure could you explain how ARM suspension of business with Huawei affect your chip pipeline thank you.
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Eric Xu1:20:27
The teacher some witnesses in the follow it which would receive a sentence Jolene says to Samsung Trombetta vadacurry Tanegashima yes nasi acquire the horse inside I used to teach Indonesia Indonesian super when you Santo Tomas shine the delicate agenda cause you know sometimes really let Sega - sports ago arm the tanker choco yo Tiana Quincy now we can come to order take a mooch energies on couchy Superboy news app doesn't enjoy adding cause it reminds for him take a button that put a hot you the wind he who is and winds first there's no issue regarding acquiring the necessary components to design an interval of Ascend 910 and MindSpore for women the woman something giant a solution that you question yet Sania Sania Sania degrees in here assign Ascend focuses on AI relates the training since on some human condition decision Han so Jung da da da da daaaa there are only two companies working on comparable chipset in the market and I think you all know which those two companies are today one incident yo-yo didn't occur to us guys will see me me your uncle I took unfit what means yield to uncles we part ago the you to associate Ascend 910 is SOC system-on-chip and there are ARM cores our views are in it in Huawei has a perpetual license architectural license of v8 from ARM so um to go simply in the FATA episode employees there for the development of this chipset will not be affected whatsoever.
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Thank you that is all the time we have for today thank you very much for your questions if you have questions remaining talk to the PR teams we will try to get you answers for some guy that's Angelica far away thank you very much for coming to today's launch event since on the material entanglement the supreme Papa way and also thank you to the Friends of the press joining us online the girl one view woman tell you before that foreign budget NGO woman Julius debajo de Shannon you're back with the sack and I would also love to see you in Shanghai for the Huawei Connected 2019 if you are interested about her flowers plans and the products related to AI thank you just before we finish there are tours downstairs to see some of the Knology we saw today if you're staying here to write stories that's fine otherwise please make your way outside and you will follow the guys with instructions to bring you downstairs and it will lead the tourists thank you very much.