Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago President Austan Goolsbee says he is less optimistic about disinflation progress and adds that there needs to be more clarity on where inflation is headed. He speaks with Mike McKee on Bloomberg Television.
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0:00Did you basically walk away from that thinking, okay, employment is off our worry list for right now?
Yeah, for the month. I mean, it felt like a pretty stable month. The unemployment rate is still holding kind of stable, decently positive on the payroll employment growth given the context of where we've been. So, you know, you never want to make too much of one month, but it wasn't a worry point for sure.
Well, a couple months in a row now, we've had decent job creation at an unemployment rate that is basically stable. So, is inflation the main danger right now?
I've been feeling that, as you know, I'm optimistic fundamentally. If we get some progress on inflation and we show we're headed back to a path on our way to 2% inflation, I'm optimistic rates can go down. We just haven't been having that now for some time, and that makes me more concerned. And I'm less optimistic. We've been above the 2% Fed inflation target for five years, and we were at least making progress for much of that time. Last year we stopped making progress, and the hope was the pause in progress was going to be temporary as the tariffs increased one cost one time and then went away. That we would add now an oil shock on top of things before the other went away. So we're not really sure if or when that part is going to go away. I think for me, that makes inflation the topic of the moment. We got to get some clarity within.
Where do you stand on the bias debate? You didn't join in. You weren't a voter, so you couldn't vote to dissent. But do you support or are you sympathetic to that idea?
I look, before I ever got to the Fed, I was always a little skeptical about the value, appropriateness of using forward guidance to begin with, saying things that the committee doesn't think it's going to do X thing for some number of months, or committing itself to two actions well in the future. I think that can be unwise to use at moments where we're not at the zero lower bound, when that kind of behavior really started, when we're at the zero lower bound, when you can't change the rates. Now, we're not in that circumstance. I usually don't get too worked up about the exact wording of the statement of this kind of form, because we don't know what the conditions are that the committee is going to be facing at even at that next meeting, much less multiple meetings in the future. So, let's just take a step back and take a deep breath. To the extent that incoming chair Walsh says he wants us to think about communications in the statement, he's expressed some not regrets, but some reservations, let's say, about the use of forward guidance. I'm pretty sympathetic with his view.
I don't know, you know, the rules. I'm not allowed to. I can speak only for what I think, not for what anybody else thinks or what's behind their votes. I don't see how you can look at the current situation, and at least to me, view that the only thing that's on the table, conceivably, are rate cuts. Inflation's been above the target for five years. Stalled out. The progress stalled out last year. In the last 3 or 4 months you've seen it deteriorating. The inflation rate is rising. The new data that are coming in are worse than the months before. And you're seeing it in categories where it's not supposed to be. If it was just tariffs or oil prices, like core services inflation. So I'm still hopeful that that's going to prove temporary. But if we start to see a deterioration of inflation expectations and the unemployment rate and the job market looks stable, I don't. I think for all credibility of the Fed, we have to be paying attention to the inflation rate when it's deteriorating and going the wrong way.
Well, let me ask you about what you think of expectations right now, because in his last press conference, Jay Powell noted that we'd had this series of supply shocks and that people were maybe getting used to the idea that inflation is normally this high.
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Goolsbee, A. (2026, May 8). Now Less Optimistic on Disinflation Progress Says Fed's Goolsbee [Interview transcript]. Bloomberg Podcasts. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/893048/
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Austan Goolsbee. "Now Less Optimistic on Disinflation Progress Says Fed's Goolsbee." Bloomberg Podcasts, 8 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/893048/.
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@misc{goolsbee2026_893048,
author = {Austan Goolsbee},
title = {Now Less Optimistic on Disinflation Progress Says Fed's Goolsbee},
howpublished = {Interview transcript, Bloomberg Podcasts. CEOInterviews.AI},
year = {2026},
month = {may},
url = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/893048/},
note = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}