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The Best Time in History to Start a Company | Patrick Collison & Amjad Masad

📅 May 21, 2026 Replit and Stripe 35 MIN 58 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Stripe now processes more than 25% of all new Delaware incorporations. And according to CEO Patrick Collison, new business ...

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Patrick Collison, CEO of Stripe, discussed the massive acceleration in new business creation, noting that Stripe now incorporates over 25% of all Delaware incorporations. He said the rate of new business creation on Stripe in March was up almost 2x year-over-year, a bigger spike than during the pandemic lockdowns, which he attributes to AI. He noted that despite the surge, average revenue per company has increased slightly, and breakouts are more extreme. Collison said entrepreneurship is accelerating globally, though crazy breakouts remain concentrated in Silicon Valley. He argued that AI labs won't capture all value, comparing them to food producers, and that moats in software won't change much, though competition will be faster. He predicted vertical SaaS will become the domain of the long tail, and that the global economy could grow to a quadrillion dollars.

Key takeaways

  1. New business creation on Stripe in March was up almost 2x year-over-year, a bigger spike than during COVID lockdowns.
  2. Stripe now incorporates more than 25% of all Delaware incorporations, giving a representative sample of the whole.
  3. 20% of startups charge their first customers within 30 days, up from 8% in 2020.
  4. Collison predicted vertical SaaS will become the domain of the long tail, not Silicon Valley.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
2x Year-over-year increase in new business creation on Stripe in March metric 2:11
25% Share of all Delaware incorporations that Stripe incorporates metric 1:01
20% Share of startups charging first customers within 30 days metric 4:50
8% Share of startups charging first customers within 30 days in 2020 metric 4:50
50% Year-over-year growth in new business creation on Stripe during April 2020 metric 1:01
1.5 trillion dollars Stripe's transaction volume metric 21:15
1 and 1/2% Fraction of global GDP flowing through Stripe metric 21:34
120-ish trillion Current size of the global economy metric 21:34
250 trillion Potential size of the global economy other 21:34

Chapters

  1. 0:00Acceleration in new business creation
  2. 3:10Quality of new companies
  3. 4:57Geographic distribution of entrepreneurship
  4. 8:29Examples of Replit businesses
  5. 10:30Replit's role in the ecosystem
  6. 15:03Human role in AI era
  7. 19:06Advice for starting over
  8. 21:15Size of the opportunity
  9. 23:32AI labs capturing value
  10. 29:48Moats in software

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 3:02So, that's happening a lot quicker as well, right?
  2. 4:57And how much of this is Silicon Valley versus how much of it is decentralizing and there's more entrepreneurship in other places?
  3. 6:13Now, it's a little bit difficult to interpret that, right?
  4. 9:49So what do you think what role does Replit play in the entrepreneurial ecosystem or the business ecosystem in two or three years?
  5. 11:45Can you automate your inbound sales process?
  6. 15:28My view is that at least the current era of LLMs and it doesn't look like it looks like LLMs will just continue to scale with almost the same properties, which is, you know, they're just like a still a function of their data, right?
  7. 19:40And I mean even startups as a market were that 15 years ago, right?
  8. 29:48What do you, I mean, to what degree if at all do you think in 5 years or 10 years the shape of moats in software will have changed?
  9. 30:06Does AI change any of those moats?
Amjad Masad 0:00 ↗
The rate of new business creation on Stripe in March, it's up almost 2x year over year. It was one of the early examples of AI companies that went from zero to like 10 million ARR in like a few months, and now it's like a half a billion dollar company. We're going to see more of those billion-dollar kind of single two-person businesses.
Patrick Collison 0:23 ↗
So, there's been incredible acceleration in internet business creation over the past year. Can you share perhaps some of the numbers you're seeing at Stripe and what is this phenomenon exactly? What's happening?
Amjad Masad 0:35 ↗
Yeah, I just lunched with an economist. This guy Nick Bloom who wrote this very interesting paper actually about how innovation and productivity growth and so forth at least on a per person basis seem to be declining and there was this kind of big stagnation that he was trying to explain. Anyway, we're having lunch and we were talking about how that no longer seems to be true.
Patrick Collison 0:56 ↗
Our productivity is now re-accelerating and we were specifically talking about how...
Amjad Masad 0:59 ↗
For the first time in like decades.
Patrick Collison 1:01 ↗
Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yes. The great stagnation seems to be over. And we were particularly talking about how one of the most underappreciated economic facts today is entrepreneurship is massively accelerating. And so it's not just something that matters in Silicon Valley or matters for companies like ours. It matters for the economy and for economists. And specifically from a Stripe standpoint, and Stripe now incorporates a bit more than 25% of all Delaware incorporations. So, I think we get kind of a representative sample of just the whole. During March of 2020 or say April 2020, so well into the pandemic, well into lockdowns, I think the rate of new business creation on Stripe was growing at around 50% year over year. So, that's a big year over year change obviously. And you know, we're all scrambling to keep up with it and so forth. Now interestingly, after the pandemic that didn't go back to the previous baseline. So, it was coming along happily, suddenly spikes with the lockdowns, and it basically just remained there, and even grew slightly. And that was before AI really took...
Amjad Masad 2:09 ↗
Yeah, yeah, yeah, before AI, before any of that stuff.
Patrick Collison 2:11 ↗
That's kind of '22, '23, remained at this new elevated level. But so, a 50% jump. But then, basically over the last 12-ish months, maybe a tiny bit more, but roughly over the last year, it's massively inflected again, and the rate of new business creation on Stripe, in March, so, month just gone by, it's up almost 2x year-over-year. 2x.
Amjad Masad 2:38 ↗
And so, it's a bigger spike than COVID and the pandemic and the lockdowns.
Patrick Collison 2:44 ↗
And yeah, we don't know exactly why this is. Presumably, it means because of AI, but, you know, we don't definitively know, but it seems that like whatever's causing this, probably AI, is a bigger tailwind and a bigger kind of pro-entrepreneurship, it's just a bigger change in the world, than the lockdowns and then the pandemic, which is pretty trippy.
Amjad Masad 3:02 ↗
And, in terms of, you also had a stat around the monetization of startups. So, that's happening a lot quicker as well, right?
Patrick Collison 3:10 ↗
Yeah, so, there's two things I think are pretty interesting here. So, one is, one might have a theory or, you know, a suspicion with this massive boom that it's a lot of kind of lightweight vibe-coded projects, and I don't know, maybe it's nice that people are creating them, but they aren't of the same heft and substance that kind of traditional businesses are. But actually, what we're seeing is that even with this huge surge, the average revenue or the average success of any one of these companies has actually increased slightly. So, it's almost 2x more, and on a per instance basis, they seem to be at least as good as any of the past. So, so interesting. And then secondly, yeah, for the ones that are kind of breakouts or that start achieving some kind of steep revenue ramp, the breakouts are much breakier out here than they used to be. And you know, some of the revenue growth rates, I mean I guess for many of these companies like the Labs and you guys and others, it's kind of broadly known, but yeah, we're just seeing these unprecedented revenue accelerations. There was a stat I want to pull it up about the time to hit some kind of revenue milestone or something like that.
Amjad Masad 4:29 ↗
Yes. Yeah, I don't know the exact numbers offhand, but I mean what we've looked at is comparing SaaS companies to kind of the SaaS boom era and marketplaces from the marketplace boom era to AI companies of this era, the time to reach these revenue milestones like a million dollar, 10 million dollars, 100 million dollars even of recurring revenue, it's down by roughly a factor of two.
Patrick Collison 4:50 ↗
Yeah, 20% of startups charge the first customers within 30 days, which is up from 8% in 2020.
Amjad Masad 4:57 ↗
Yeah. And how much of this is Silicon Valley versus how much of it is decentralizing and there's more entrepreneurship in other places?
Patrick Collison 5:10 ↗
Yeah, I was looking at this recently over the weekend actually. So this is a... I think there's evidence for, you know, you sort of have these Silicon Valley partisans who think that everything is going to be massively agglomerated here and you have to move to Silicon Valley and that camp. And then obviously you have the opposite viewpoint which argues not only is it much more dispersed, but that AI should make us even more dispersed because the barrier to entry of AI is even lower. And I think there's some evidence for both of those. So, on the one hand there's a huge surge everywhere. Like the stat we were just discussing in terms of this big year-over-year change, there's a big year-over-year change in basically every country. And it is just empirically much easier to start a business, and those businesses are doing better. It is the case that the crazy breakouts are more likely to be concentrated in Silicon Valley than elsewhere, and even with AI that concentration is if anything growing.
Amjad Masad 6:13 ↗
Right. Now, it's a little bit difficult to interpret that, right? Because many of those companies didn't start in Silicon Valley, and so maybe the story is it's easier than ever to start somewhere else, and then if you start getting meaningful traction, maybe you then move to Silicon Valley.
Patrick Collison 6:22 ↗
Exactly. Yeah, yeah. But no, if you're an entrepreneur in Dubai, or if you're an entrepreneur in Thailand, or Japan, or Germany, or what have you, it is a much better time now than it was 12 months ago.
Amjad Masad 6:36 ↗
Mhm. Yeah, I mean, one of the things anecdotally from the entrepreneurs that I talked to that started their businesses on Replit, the cool thing is that there are a lot of businesses that, you know, Silicon Valley has certain bias, like where a lot of the people that start companies are programmers. And there are large parts of the economy that software has not even reached. Like, we have this entrepreneur in Europe that built software for ice skating rinks. And it's on its way to becoming a multi-million dollar business. He's on his own. I don't think anyone in Silicon Valley has ever thought about ice skating rinks.
Patrick Collison 7:15 ↗
Yeah. Well, actually, so I want to come back to that in a second and ask about some kind of representative Replit entrepreneurs to kind of tease that out. But the ice skating rink is a nice example of how, sort of tongue-in-cheek for the last, I don't know, seven or eight years, when people have asked me, you know, what sector of technology I'm excited about, is it the drones, is it AI, is it crypto, you know, whatever, I've said it's vertical SaaS. And I'm being a bit tongue-in-cheek, but I think there is something there where sort of the opportunities of software and the internet and the new ways we can coordinate and new marketplaces and markets that can be enabled and geographic coverage and all those things haven't really been brought to most sectors still and there's just still a ton of opportunity which I guess vertical SaaS kind of by definition helps enable. So that really resonates and I actually wanted to ask you like Replit obviously started out as a learn to code platform I think when I first met you in New York a long time ago that's what Replit was focused on. And now you're becoming hugely successful for programming generally for deployment for building businesses. And so I guess I'm just curious like as you think about businesses built on Replit what are just a couple of representative examples or particularly cool ones that you've come across just what help put a more specific picture on that.
Amjad Masad 8:29 ↗
Right for sure. We obviously see a lot of Silicon Valley style companies a lot of YC startups things like that. But the more exciting thing is domain experts that have a certain insight in their field or something they're working in that they can suddenly apply software and technology and AI to. We had a teacher during COVID started thinking about education what he enjoyed as a teacher doing. He's been seeing a lot of teachers quitting their jobs and ChatGPT had just come out was like okay how can we use AI to make the teacher's job easier. So he built this product which he called Magic School that allows teachers to create assignments, grade assignments very quickly and all of that. And because he knows how the education system works, you know, a lot of the dogma in Silicon Valley tends to be like don't build a tech businesses because they're terrible. It was one of the early examples of AI companies that went from zero to like 10 million ARR in like a few months and now it's like a half a billion dollar company.
Patrick Collison 9:45 ↗
And so a half a billion dollar company that was built with Replit?
Amjad Masad 9:49 ↗
Yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's incredible. Yeah, it's awesome. It's really awesome. And it feels like otherwise it wouldn't have been built. Like, you know, but not for what happened with AI, what we built with Replit. And I think that's the thing that gets me excited is, you know, everyone has ideas, everyone goes through life and they see problems in their respective domains but they didn't have the tools to be able to solve them. So what do you think what role does Replit play in the entrepreneurial ecosystem or the business ecosystem in two or three years?
Patrick Collison 10:30 ↗
Yeah, I think the sort of the generating function that produces the product roadmap on Replit is like removing all the barriers from going from an idea to like a deployed software. And scaled and monetized and successful. So originally it was like yeah, the programming environment was the first barrier, solve that, then deployment environment, then actually coding as a whole was a barrier, you kind of solved that with Replit Agent. And now we actually did this program recently called Raise Revenue where we wanted to, we were seeing a lot of startups start on Replit but we wanted to get closer to them. We wanted them in our office and see them all of them incorporated on Atlas and the thing that I noticed about these companies is, I mean sort of it's sort of old wisdom in Silicon Valley distribution is everything right? It's really becoming the problem. It's like how do I, you know, I built this thing, like how do I get my first customer? How do I scale from there? So, okay, you know, there's the distribution problem, but there's also just running your business.
Amjad Masad 11:45 ↗
Did you see the New York Times article about like Med V, the company that was, you know, two-person on track to a billion ARR? They built a lot of it on Replit, and I got in touch with Matthew and talked to him about how they used Replit and he... It's a very interesting guy, like he's built a business before, and he had a lot of employees, and he was really frustrated with it. He was like, 'I just don't like managing people. I'd rather manage agents and AIs.' And so, he builds a lot. The first thing I noticed about him is like from idea to like prompt on Replit, something is up in like 5 minutes. It's like the fastest person to just spin up projects and ideas and things like that. There's a lot of automations that he was building on the back end. He obviously uses Zapier and a lot of other things. But it's just got me thinking how much of after you start getting customers, how much chores there is in running the business. So, I'm starting to think about a layer on top of your Replit projects. You're already running your business, your traffic is there, your users are there, your customers are there. You know, can you launch a marketing campaign really quickly from there? Can you automate your inbound sales process? I suspect there's a lot of value to that vertical integration.
Patrick Collison 13:13 ↗
Mhm. And you know, for so many third-party tools, there's obviously at some point a step where it has to be integrated into your code base, it has to be deployed, it has to be tested, it has to be hooked into your observability stack, you know, who knows. Which generally speaking is a point of friction, but for Replit, you can just do that, right? Like that's what you manage. And so the structural advantage where you can instantly provision and essentially guarantee that these things will work just because again you have that full control and visibility.
Amjad Masad 13:49 ↗
Yeah, my mental model for Replit is like a Nintendo. Like you can go on you can buy it like I bought a Steam Deck and like you install the games, you know, half of them don't work, you still have to, you know, configure them and always tinker with them and somehow they break sometimes randomly. And then but you buy a Nintendo and yes, you have a lot of other games on the Nintendo, but you're also, you know, play Zelda, it's like the best experience ever because they control everything from the pixels down to the...
Patrick Collison 14:19 ↗
Well, you know, I started out as a Lisp programmer and you know, the central Lisp insight is I would say code should be data. And this kind of reminds me of that because it's today there's two quite different worlds. There's your code and there's the organization. But with Replit, you can kind of squint and imagine a world where the organization is also the code and the whole thing just becomes fully self-referential and vertically integrated in this very trippy way.
Amjad Masad 14:54 ↗
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's the exciting part and I think we're going to see more of those like billion-dollar kind of single two-person businesses.

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Collison, P. (2026, May 21). The Best Time in History to Start a Company | Patrick Collison & Amjad Masad [Interview transcript]. Replit and Stripe. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/926933/

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