Palantir, that's getting into corruption, waste, fraud, all that kind of stuff, right? I mean, this is at the core of the DNA since we started Palantir. You saw at PayPal back in the day before Palantir existed, the Chinese and Russian mafia were stealing all our money, right? That was the big thing. And if you hear Elon talk about fraud, he knows it because he was part of that battle. He was part of that battle to stop that. And he said like, you know, whoever squeals the loudest, that's because you're turning off their fraud. Like I remember Peter was at chess club with some Russian guy who was pissed and he was screaming, yelling, and he was complaining, and it's because Peter was like turning off all of his fraud at work. Because he was tied to these mafia guys. So it's like, yes, this is like core, like Palantir when it was first built, it came out of that experience of understanding how to do data investigations based on fraud. And yeah, Palantir's working right now with the SBA with Kelly Loeffler who's doing an amazing job there. Tons of stuff at HUD. I mean, HUD is just like level one ground level for fraud, right? Just like paying off NGOs for get out the vote purposes, paying off people in the community basically in the inner cities. It's just a lot of nonsense that you're finding.
And the question is, tons of fraud. I mean, I had Nick Searcy come on talk about all the fraud going on with the Somali, the what, the learning centers.
These are the learning centers. I love it. Look, these tribes are so good at it because they coordinate. Because like you couldn't get, like unfortunately in Europe, you get like a tribe of these, you know, Islamists from wherever, like 15 of them to go rape the teacher together and not tell anyone. Like if you ask 15 of my cousins to go rape a teacher, they'd all like punch you in the face and like there's no way they'd all go do something like that. But these man, these tribes from these places are sick and we've brought them into this country. There's a lot of broken tribes here unfortunately. We need, and yeah, there's tons of fraud tied to subcultures around LA that we're finding. It's really unfortunate. We got to turn all this stuff off.
So I mean, my question, I mean, I got you guys are going over, I keep saying you guys. Palantir COVID era PPP fraud. Palantir is now helping Small Business Administration investigate fraud. Tons of it. You mentioned the HUD, minority contracting abuse. Biden nearly tripled the size of the program. Most contracts were no bid awarded. So anyways, I mean this kind of sounds, didn't we kind of do this with DOD and it didn't...
Well, DOD turned off a hundred sixty billion dollars of stuff. It's not nothing. That's pretty good stuff.
No, no, no, no. I'm not saying it's not nothing. I'm saying...
Well, a lot more than you wanted, a lot more to find.
Full distance. But there was so much pushback.
Yeah, and it was like complicated. I think listen, I think when DOD first started, like let's, I mean I was there at Mar-a-Lago briefly and with Elon and Vivek and others and they were interviewing people to become the secretaries, right? Because Trump had them helping with the transition. And so DOD right from the start was kind of like tied to the boss and tied to the president. And I think there had to be a cultural change with how it worked with the agencies and worked with the leadership in ways they'd be okay with it. But a lot of the best people did go into these agencies and keep working. It's not like it went away fully, right? There's all the cultures there are still in a lot of these places and going. And I love that listen, the president's put the vice president in charge of this, right? And he's, I just saw him recently. He says this is a big objective of his. He's working hard on it. And a lot of the grift that comes from fraud, Sean, is how the Democratic Party funds its allies. This is just the truth. Oh, what? This is how the Democratic Party funds its friends and allies. It's very good at it, right? We caught huge amounts of money going to these things that go to get out the vote for the left. There's hundreds of nonprofits in New York State recently came out that are funding get out the vote. They're funding candidates, right? And so these people will have political power. They'll get money for their NGOs. They'll get money for their businesses with Medicaid or whatever else. And they'll give it right back. It's like political largesse. They give it right back to people benefiting them. And they get more. And it's huge amounts of money. So this is why unfortunately a lot of the left is not on our team for getting rid of fraud because it's funding so many of the people who vote for them and who support them. And this is a huge issue for us to go after much harder. We got to turn it off.
Sheesh. Deputy, think this is started?
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Listen, they're finding a bunch of stuff with the administrator Loeffler on the SBA. They just announced a bunch of stuff in HUD a couple weeks ago that they're finding. There's just all stuff and we're turning it off. And you said the right thing that's also really getting me really annoyed is we should be doing more prosecutions. We should be putting more people in jail because you're finding stuff, it's very clearly fraud, and you're turning it off, and we are not prosecuting. And I think the people running the DOJ are not nearly as competent as they need to be. I'll just put it out there.
How the is this going to change? We got to get more competent people whose job is to actually initiate and put people in jail for breaking the law. How do we do that?
You put out the word to hire really competent lawyers.
I don't know. Like I've built orgs.
You built orgs? It's like, I mean I'm...
I know what I would do, but nobody's doing it.
What would you do? I would fire everybody and bring in...
