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Subhash Chandra
Chairman, Zee Entertainment

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About Subhash Chandra

Dr. Subhash Chandra, chairman of Zee Entertainment, has continued hosting his motivational talk show "SACH," where he has addressed topics including relationships, self-coaching, and the role of religion in society. In a June 2026 episode recorded at Zakir Husain Delhi College, Chandra discussed relationship-building, stating that "relationships are built without any give-and-take and such relationships last long." He also said that to build a relationship with someone, one must "come to their level" and cited the example of communicating with a driver in simple language. In other episodes, Chandra distinguished between "action" (goal-oriented, thoughtful work) and "activity" (routine existence), and argued that talent is inborn and cannot be transferred, contrary to what some coaching programs claim. He defined a good coach as someone who "only brings out what is inside you" rather than teaching new knowledge. Chandra also expressed views on religion, stating that "humanity is being divided by the narrow thinking of religion" and that most killings worldwide have religion as a basic factor. He described Hinduism, Islam, and Christianity as "ideologies or ways of worship, not dharma," asserting that "dharma is universal." On political matters, Chandra criticized opposition to the Char Dham Yatra in Uttarakhand, saying that while he accepts opposition to his government or party, "do not oppose the Char Dham Yatra," calling it a matter of dharma, the state's prosperity, and employment. He also encouraged service to the poor, suggesting that donating a percentage of one's income leads to household happiness and positive energy.

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Subhash Chandra0:00
Today, life is about how we learn from the things we perform. I agree with you, very good. What I believe is that if you want to become your own coach, there are only two fundamental things: our will and belief. If we want to do something, that is our will. And our belief is that we can do something. So, will and belief, we can surely make ourselves our own coach.
Let's see, we have done some work on this. Let's look at the work we have done. 'Arise, awake, and stop not till the goal is reached.' These words of Swami Vivekananda can be an inspiration for every person who dreams of becoming something big in life. But due to family circumstances, financial conditions, or lack of resources, they cannot turn their dreams into reality. Many scholars say that there is nothing in the world for which one cannot inspire oneself. In our country, many such individuals were born, from Mahatma Gandhi, Lal Bahadur Shastri, APJ Abdul Kalam to Sachin Tendulkar, Sania Mirza, Shah Rukh Khan, who wrote their own destiny with their hard work and dedication. Therefore, it is important that we listen to our conscience because change begins with oneself.
Your point also came up. What others said, I... but still, sometimes we start talking about a subject but sometimes make a mistake in understanding its basic meaning. So, can I ask one or two people, what does 'coach' mean to you?
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Audience Member1:56
According to me, a coach is someone who motivates you, inspires you, trains you, and keeps you focused. So, to be your own coach, you have to train yourself, you have to motivate yourself.
Sir, I think a coach is a person who directs yourself, who directs the person, who shows the path to the person, how to go, how to reach, and how to achieve that goal. That is, I think, the coach.
In our life, there are certain positions, there are certain situations when we are not able to realize what our inner self wants. So at that time, a person who realizes, who makes us realize that this is the right thing for you at the right time and makes the right thing possible for us is a coach. That is what I believe.
We all think that Sachin Tendulkar played a very good shot. But Sachin Tendulkar would know that he made a mistake in that shot. So, no one else can see it. He sees his own mistake. So, a coach is someone who can make you better even in your best work.
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Subhash Chandra2:55
Very close to the right answer. Very good. So, we saw, I started by saying that perhaps we talk about the meaning of a coach, but we also think that everyone knows what a coach means. But here we talked to five people and we got almost different answers from all five. But what I understand is, a person, a coach is a person who helps you improve your performance. And secondly, a good coach is one who knows... I repeat my point, a coach knows that whatever skill, strength, talent you have inside you, a good coach never says that I am teaching you. A good coach only brings out what is inside you and shows it to you, saying, 'Look, you have this skill. You have this power. You can do this.' This is a coach in the true sense. There is a big difference between a teacher and a coach. A teacher teaches you many things about which we have no knowledge. He also tells you that. A coach only brings out what is inside you and places it in front of you. And where you make a little mistake, he points it out to you. Although, as you said, the person himself knows his mistakes and strengths. But still, if you don't have anything inside you, no coach can make you a good player or a good performer. This is my belief.
If we take this forward, I say this repeatedly in this show, that three things are essential in life. One is your knowledge, which you get in your college, everywhere, you have come here too. You have come to learn. Your teachers give it to you. So, knowledge can be gained from third sources. Experience is number two. When you go for an exam or an interview, the first thing they ask is how educated you are, what is your background? The second thing they ask is, do you have experience? So, second is experience. Experience can be transferred. A person who is more knowledgeable than you, a more experienced person, can transfer their experience to you. But there is a third thing, which is a must. What is that?
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Audience Member6:38
Faith, confidence.
Skill.
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Subhash Chandra6:45
Skill. Skill is equal to... Skill is a combination of knowledge and experience, hard work... Who said talent? Yes, stand up. What is your name?
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Audience Member7:01
Kishan.
Bhisham.
Kishan.
Kishan Krishna.
Krishna Kanhaiya.
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Subhash Chandra7:07
Yes. What does talent mean according to you? This is the right answer, absolutely. Let's clap for Krishna.
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Audience Member7:19
Talent is that in which you are a master and which you can do better than others. That is talent.
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Subhash Chandra7:29
That is talent. Good point. Very good. This is a very good answer. Talent is a third thing. As Krishna said, what you can do, perhaps others cannot do as well, that is called talent. But there is a definition of talent. Talent is something you are born with. Talent cannot be transferred. It cannot be acquired. I had a debate about this with the dean of Wharton School. He said, 'No, there are courses, we can transfer talent in three months, we charge thousands of dollars.' I challenged him. I said, 'Show me by transferring talent.' They couldn't win. Talent is either you have it in you or you don't have it in you. And also, every man, every woman has some talent. There is no person who doesn't have some talent. So, the one who brings out that talent is what we call a coach.
Now, how to become your own coach? First, prepare yourself to become your own coach. This is only preparation. For this, he said, first, remove the word 'lazy' from your dictionary. There is no place for laziness in the life of a coach. And if you want to become your own coach, you have to be away from laziness. Second, prioritize your actions. Otherwise, what will happen? If you don't prioritize, you will get entangled in activity and action. Because action is a different thing. Activity is a different thing. Activity is like brushing your teeth. At that time, you don't have to think that I have to brush my teeth. You open your eyes and go straight. That's an activity. You stand under the shower, your hand automatically goes towards the soap, and you apply the soap, and your attention is somewhere else. You are thinking about something else, 'Today I have to meet my girlfriend. Let me apply soap vigorously.' Your attention is on the girlfriend, but you are applying soap. That's an activity. So, there is a difference between activity and action. Action is when you do some work thoughtfully to achieve your goal, to achieve your purpose. That is action. Activity is just routine. You are existing. There are many people in life. Many times, when I was young, we used to travel, and sometimes we felt like being mischievous. So you are sitting somewhere in a restaurant, in a pub. So you start looking at a boy's or girl's hand. I am telling you a secret. If you look at someone's hand, both left and right hands, and if there is no difference in the lines of both hands, then understand that the person is merely existing in life, he has no mission. Now you all started looking at your hands, right? Because he doesn't work hard. He doesn't make efforts. Because science has also accepted that with efforts, the lines of your life, the lines of your hand, change. There is no religion or belief or anything like that in this. It is a proper science.
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Audience Member11:59
While developing ourselves and whenever we are learning something new, that is a very long process and that requires too much of patience. And what I think that most people lack is being patient enough to hold on to their own path. Sir, what would you...
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Subhash Chandra12:18
No, I say contrary to that. If you want to become your own coach, we are talking only about the limited subject of being a coach of yourself, sir. Rather, you will shorten the time because you know your strength and your own weaknesses. If I have to identify your talent, I have to learn this art. And even then, I may not be perfectly 100% right. But you know yourself what you are. So, therefore, to become your own coach, you will rather shorten the time to reach to the excellence. So now I come to the process of self-coaching. First, one thing. Many of us in life become very action-oriented. But many times, and many times we think, 'Man, I am very smart.' We all believe. We should believe. We should have confidence in ourselves, and only then will you be able to move forward. But the belief system is still behind the eyes. It is in your mind. Where is the mind here? Behind the eyes. What you believe about yourself, bring it in front of your eyes. Start writing it. And put it in a laptop, put it in an iPad, whatever you use. Bring that in front of you. Because when you see it in front, you will say, 'No, I wrote this correctly. I wrote this wrong.' It's about yourself. So, bring it on a piece of paper in front of you. And second, which we sometimes do for wrong reasons, do it for the right reason. Tell your story to somebody. If you are ashamed to tell someone else, then stand in front of this lamp and start telling it. Tell your story. When you tell your story, you will also listen to it yourself. In that, you will also learn and understand your strengths, weaknesses, whatever they are. You will be happy with yourself. You will have to fix your weaknesses. And now, because you are not lazy, you were lazy before, now you are not lazy, so you will start acting on it. And then we say, track the progress. Just like you do in your studies, you have exams and tests. Start taking your own tests. See how you are progressing with your own coaching. You will find yourself that, 'Yes, I am progressing very well.' Recently, I met a military captain at an airport. A young person. NDA, if you want to go to the army, you go to NDA for 3 years. They start at the age of 16. Then after that, they have proper training for one and a half years. So he said, 'Sir, when I went there, our colonel asked me to run. I started panting within 1 kilometer. Slowly, slowly, I did cross country of 16 km. It took me 80 minutes the first time. And it felt like all my life was about to leave my body. My life was stuck in my mouth, as if I was about to die. But slowly, slowly, as I started doing it, he said, 'Today I can do cross country in 10 minutes.' I never knew that my body had so much strength, so much resilience.' So when you start doing this, you will start knowing your strength, your capacity. So, track your progress. And if you feel that something is not going right, then you should not hesitate in changing your track also, which you can change. You very well know that if I run after eating, I will start panting quickly. So, from now on, I will not eat before running. If one day you didn't get proper sleep, then the next day if you want to do physical or any exercise, you will get tired quickly. So, from today, I will start sleeping early. So, these kind of improvements and changes, track changes, you have to have. So, this is all. There is no big rocket science in this.
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Audience Member17:54
Got to know that you joined your family business after 10th standard. So I want to ask you that at that time, seeing your family condition, you became your own coach. And was there someone who guided you that you should do this now because your family needs you and something?
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Subhash Chandra18:12
Looking at the circumstances of that time, I had to become my own coach. But when life started moving, I started working at the age of 16. But when I started moving forward, wherever I got stuck, I made my grandfather my coach and learned from him. And I moved forward under his guidance.
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Audience Member18:46
Thank you, sir. Sir, as you said in the second point, in preparation, that you don't need guidance from a trusted person. If you want someone, sir, how can you define that the person is trusted for you? Maximum three or four persons I trusted most, but most of the time I got betrayed maximum times.
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Subhash Chandra19:08
Oh wow! Who were those people whose love was met with love? Yes. See, in life, it's not like that. You have to trust someone or the other. And remember one more thing. If you believe in yourself, if you believe in your ability that I will be successful, then first of all, you won't need to ask others. But still, if you need to, and if there is someone you can trust a little... your parents, siblings, someone you will trust. But still, weigh it on the scale of your ability and your belief, whether what he said was right or not. If your mind doesn't feel right, leave it. Do what your mind says. So, that's why it is most important to believe in yourself. Then you will move forward.
So today, I want to introduce you to a young lady who was a cricketer before marriage. She used to play good cricket. After marriage, she stopped playing herself. But still, she thought, why not share my talent with the poor children around me after marriage? Why not share my experience? We call such women change-makers. Jigna Gajjar ji is among us. Welcome, Jigna.
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Narrator21:24
One should learn from time how to move forward through difficulties. For a player, the game is his life. In this game, he falls. Then he tries to get up. He learns and also teaches people. Jigna Gajjar is also one of those players who dreamed and did not stop trying to turn them into reality.
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Jigna Gajjar22:01
A lot of cricket preparation is going on. Practice is also going on. So, I will play in the upcoming tournament.
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Narrator22:11
You started playing cricket in 2003 and kept moving forward. In 2008, you got married. At this time, your game was being affected a lot. But you did not give up. You chose such children for your dreams who are capable but not financially strong.
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Jigna Gajjar22:34
My area is Chandkheda area. There, I provide free cricket coaching to slum and underprivileged children.
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Narrator22:41
You have proved that a player does not become great just by his game. He becomes great because he knows how to win in every situation.
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Subhash Chandra22:54
She shared that thing with poor children after playing. And not only did she teach them cricket, but she also teaches them studies along with it. A big round of applause for Jigna ji.
Jigna ji, how do you feel now? How many years has it been doing this?
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Jigna Gajjar23:14
I started this in 2015. And the purpose of starting this is that cricket never left me. Like we... yes, this is your inborn talent, the sportsman in you... that even today, even after my marriage, I did not leave cricket.
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Subhash Chandra23:37
Very good. And with that confidence, that belief I had in myself, with that belief, I have reached this level today.
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Jigna Gajjar23:48
Very good. So, Jigna ji, this means cricket is your first love.
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Subhash Chandra23:55
Yes, you can say that.
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Jigna Gajjar23:57
And husband is your second love.
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Subhash Chandra23:59
Yes, you can say that too.
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Jigna Gajjar24:01
So... he doesn't even accept that I... he doesn't feel bad about the second love.
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Subhash Chandra24:05
When you meet your first love, he doesn't feel bad?
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Jigna Gajjar24:08
No. I thank God a lot that there is a lot of support in the family. Because as a girl, after marriage, your dream coming true and that too with family support, and the best thing is that my husband is very supportive. That whenever I have to go to the ground, there is no worry. I go to the ground. I teach the children well, so I don't have the tension of home.
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Subhash Chandra24:36
Very good. If there was home tension, I might not have been able to teach the children better or with concentration.
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Jigna Gajjar24:43
Very good. So I thank him a lot.
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Subhash Chandra24:46
So, the happiness you are getting to pursue your passion, behind this is one, your husband's hand. A man's hand.
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Audience Member25:04
Correct.
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Subhash Chandra25:06
Correct. Let's have your questions for Jigna ji.
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Audience Member25:09
Did you find any difficulties in reaching at this stage?
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Jigna Gajjar25:14
Yes, of course. What happens is that after marriage, you have household responsibilities, and along with that, the thing you are doing for yourself, for your passion, to achieve a goal, balancing both things, managing it, is a bit difficult. But as I just told sir and you all, having family support is a very big thing, so this balance then falls into place. And suppose if it would not be there, then...
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Audience Member25:51
Why do you suppose... don't let negative thoughts come.
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Jigna Gajjar25:55
No. If it happens, when it happens, we will see.
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Subhash Chandra26:00
Okay. Why think negative? See, we often make this mistake. Sit down. We often make this mistake. 'If this happened to me, what will I do? What will I do?' And fear is such a thing that multiplies. By the passage of fraction of a second, it multiplies. And before a second is over, you start believing that this has happened to me. Yes. So, believing this, we accept it, and from that, negative thoughts keep multiplying. A day comes when we have to take a pill. We have to take an antidepressant drug. So, don't let negative thoughts come. When something happens, we will see then, we will solve it.
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Jigna Gajjar26:57
Yes. As I said, I never wanted to leave cricket, so that thought was positive, so cricket didn't leave me, and along with that, these things kept happening.
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Subhash Chandra27:09
Jigna ji, my viewers are watching your program from home. Looking at this camera, what would you like to say to youngsters or those who want to play cricket?
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Jigna Gajjar27:23
My message is this. Whether you play cricket or anything, you should have a goal, and if you are positive in it, you will move forward in it. As a cricketer, I want to say that girls in cricket are very few right now, they are not moving forward. So as a girl, I want that girls should also come forward in cricket. There are many opportunities for them, just like for boys. And whatever you know, serve it, whether it is education or sports. They say that if we have any talent, please teach it to someone. And it's not like teach for money. If you want to do something helpful in life, then please serve it. Teach. So I want that moving forward, someone... yes, share it. I teach cricket. This doesn't mean that someone can learn from me and move forward anywhere. They can choose their path and learn discipline from it. So I want that along with cricket, they should move forward and achieve a goal they want to achieve in life.
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Subhash Chandra28:39
Very good. A big round of applause for Jigna ji. Jigna ji, you came to my show. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. Thank you very much.
So now, friends, I will introduce you to another guest who is a bigger motivator than me, Ashish ji Soparkar. Welcome. He is the Managing Director of Meghmani Group of Companies. In 1977, he started work on a small scale, and today his business is spread in many ways. What would you like to say to the youth here and those watching this program from home?
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Ashish Soparkar29:32
First of all, I am here with my classmate Jayanti Patel, who was a chemical engineer, and his younger brother Natu Bhai. The three of us are here. So first, Jayanti bhai and I both used to work. We worked for one year. I had 8,000 rupees. He had 8,000 rupees, and from there we started a factory. We took a loan of 16,000 rupees. GIDC, Gujarat Government gave the loan. The entire bank gave the loan, and from there we started a small venture. And we thought that we are chemical engineers. We will make the product better than what others make. Ahmedabad has so many textile mills, so we started with dyes. Later, the market for dyes seemed small, so we started pigments. The market for pigments also seemed small, so we started agrochemicals. Then after starting pesticides, we also started pharmaceuticals. And we are making many things. We are making basic chemicals. We are also making caustic chlorine. So, you can say that wherever you reach, don't stop there. Try to reach a higher level. It's correct, sir. And the opportunities we had before, today you have at least 100 times more opportunities in different fields.
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Subhash Chandra30:50
Very good.
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Ashish Soparkar30:50
What is most important is, sir, the three things you mentioned, I want to add a fourth thing, that you should have attitude and dedication. Attitude is very important. You must have seen many times that the one who is first in class is not first in life. Yes. It happens a lot in medical. Your attitude depends on your personality. You want to do business. You should have an extrovert personality. Every child in your class, your classmate, should love you. If they don't, then in business too, people will drive you away. Build such a personality that people remember you when you are there. Today, a customer needs a product, the first call should come to you. That's why we say, we ask a question to employees in our company: 'Do you have a best friend in the company or not?' If they say no, then we get worried. Yes. Similarly, as you said, if you write A, B, C, D... X, Y, Z. Under each alphabet, write 1, 2, 3. A means 1, B 2, C 3, like that. So many times in life, as you said, many people say, 'Sir, if we do hard work, it will be done.' But if you total the numbers of hard work, it will be 98. But if you do attitude, it will be a full 100 out of 100. Its total. Very good. Correct. So, attitude is the first thing, hard work comes second. Tell me this, as I was saying, can you be your own coach? What do you have to say about that?
Sir, we can be our own coach. We have to be. But in life, if you want to come forward quickly, we require help of experts. How to identify which expert, what to learn from them, how quickly to learn, that is very important. Even today, I am studying. I am doing it for my hobby. I study music.
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Subhash Chandra33:07
What do you study, sir?
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Ashish Soparkar33:09
I study music. Yes, sir. I have been studying for 40 years.
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Subhash Chandra33:11
Very good. Wow, wow. So, sing a couplet today.
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Ashish Soparkar33:18
Abhi na jao chhodkar, ke dil abhi bhara nahi...
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Subhash Chandra33:38
Wow, wow. Very good, very good. Proud. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
What did we learn just now? How do you feel? Do you feel any change from when you came until now? Would anyone like to share what change you are feeling?
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Audience Member34:01
Sir, watching this show, I feel motivated. First of all, then, right now, it's going on in my mind that the passion I have, I will go home and work on it. Like...
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Subhash Chandra34:15
Oh wow! What is your passion? Will you tell us?
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Audience Member34:23
I... I will tell later.
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Subhash Chandra34:25
No, no, sir, I... okay. Are you proud of it?
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Audience Member34:28
Yes, sir, I play basketball, and I also want to learn guitar along with basketball. I have been trying to learn for some time. But I don't know, due to lack of time, I sometimes leave it. So I am thinking that today I will go and learn everything in one night.
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Subhash Chandra34:44
Try, so don't leave it. Yes.
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Audience Member34:47
Before the show, I had heard about these terms called life coach and mentor, etc. But you know, after the show, I have learned about the process, you know, how to become the life coach. Earlier, you know, everybody talks that you can become your life coach, you can become the mentor. But today you taught the step-by-step process, and you know, that really helped me. Thank you.
Sir, it is said in life that if you want to be taken seriously, you should be consistent in the work that you do. Today, basically, what we learned here is that what is the process, that if we have something in our mind, then how do we execute it. I would say that no one knows better than you yourself. Number one. Number two, you need to find some motivation in life. You must have some goal in life. Like he has the motivation to learn guitar. You also must have a motivation to become coach of yourself. You need to have a motivation to excel in something. So you need to have a motivation. Find that motivation, find your love, what you like, and that will motivate you to excel in life. Whatever you want to do, whatever your goal is, and don't shy away from taking credit for yourself. Don't shy away from taking credit for your success. And as I said earlier, you becoming your own coach, you become successful much faster than you take somebody else as a coach and then become successful with this. Thank you very much for listening to me. All the best and see you next week.
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Subhash Chandra36:50
Co-powered by Kajaria. There is something for everyone. Sponsor: Green Panel MDF. After the 2013 disaster, Kedarnath Dham was reconstructed, and the master plan for Badrinath Dham is also being worked on. If you go, you will see that the number of pilgrims and devotees has increased very rapidly. Just now, you must have come from Delhi to Dehradun, so you are reaching here in a maximum of two and a half hours. You are reaching Haridwar. You are reaching Rishikesh. So, due to the increase in these facilities, the footfall is very large. And the number is very large. Of pilgrims coming, of tourists coming. If I talk about tourists in the last four years, more than 23 crore tourists have come to Devbhoomi Uttarakhand. So, as you said, it is a challenge for us to conduct everyone's journey in an organized manner. It is a challenge for us to ensure their safety, that their journey is safe. So, we are continuously making efforts on all those parameters, continuously, that the journey of the travelers is good, organized, simple, without any obstacles. So, a large number coming is in itself a very big proof of prosperity. And along with this, see, this journey is not just like a tourist's journey. This is a journey of faith. A journey of devotion. It has two aspects. It is a journey of Sanatan, and for the state of Uttarakhand, this is a lifeline. It is also a very big reason for our economy. So, if the journey is big, then prosperity has definitely come, as you have written in the dialogue.
What is the situation regarding the ropeway? The work of the ropeway... and secondly, what is done this year is done, but do you have some more plans for next year? Although there are actions for next year too. But some things that you feel, that you have thought of, that for the pilgrims of Char Dham, this thing is left to complete, or this is my goal. See, this year also, a very good journey is happening. Yes, this is true. You are not saying it, but it will be in your mind that some people show pictures of crowds, make videos, put them on the internet, and somewhere directly or indirectly oppose this journey for their political benefit. So I have told them many times, I have very humbly requested them that you oppose us, oppose our government, oppose our policies. We will have no problem. But brother, do not oppose the journey of Char Dham. This is a place of Hari. This is the work of Dharma. This is the work of Sanatan. This is the reason for the prosperity of our state. This is a very big reason for our economy. It is a reason for employment. They don't see that brother, hotels are full. People are earning good income in hotels. Taxis are running well. Our homestays are all full. Our women who run self-help groups, the products made by them, people are buying them in large numbers. So, they are getting an identity. Our brands are going across the country and the world. They don't see that. For political reasons, that the journey is not right. There is too much crowd in the journey. We will make a video and put it. Oh brother, people are coming, so we won't send them back. We have said that whoever comes, whoever pilgrims come, we will show them the darshan of the four dhams in an organized and safe manner, and also of other divine places. So this is just opposition, or there is another reason for this too, that you are becoming a big face of Hindutva, and especially in Uttarakhand, all the decisions are taken keeping Hindus in mind. It is said, and it is also said that wherever a madrasa is seen, Dhami ji gets a bulldozer run on it.
No, no, see, they can oppose me. Just now their leader came. He said something and left. He came and left. See, he had to go to Almora. He had to go to Pauri. There was a program in Dehradun for a day, perhaps somewhere here. Oh, I was just hearing that some people were also saying that the Uttarakhand government stopped them, DGCA stopped them, the people of Yugada stopped them. Oh brother, neither do we know which helicopter you are coming in. We did not provide that helicopter. Nor did we give any permission from here that you will come in this helicopter. That must be their contracted helicopter. The pilots will also be theirs. Now, in that, okay, you couldn't go. They said there was no safety, so they didn't go. Okay, you didn't go to Almora, then you didn't go to Pauri either. Oh, the weather was good in Dehradun. You could have gone to Delhi and come back. If you had to go to Delhi and come back from Delhi. If you... they were showing in Andaman on the same day as me. Meaning, they didn't want to stay in Uttarakhand. So, in this way, they can oppose us. Oppose our government. Oppose our party. We accept it. We accept their challenge. But if they oppose Char Dham, oppose Sanatan, try to interfere with our cultural demography here, do appeasement, then we will oppose. But they are coming to help the citizens of Uttarakhand...