Subhash Chandra

Chairman, Zee Entertainment

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About Subhash Chandra

Dr. Subhash Chandra, chairman of Zee Entertainment, has continued hosting his motivational talk show "SACH," where he has addressed topics including relationships, self-coaching, and the role of religion in society. In a June 2026 episode recorded at Zakir Husain Delhi College, Chandra discussed relationship-building, stating that "relationships are built without any give-and-take and such relationships last long." He also said that to build a relationship with someone, one must "come to their level" and cited the example of communicating with a driver in simple language. In other episodes, Chandra distinguished between "action" (goal-oriented, thoughtful work) and "activity" (routine existence), and argued that talent is inborn and cannot be transferred, contrary to what some coaching programs claim. He defined a good coach as someone who "only brings out what is inside you" rather than teaching new knowledge. Chandra also expressed views on religion, stating that "humanity is being divided by the narrow thinking of religion" and that most killings worldwide have religion as a basic factor. He described Hinduism, Islam, and Christianity as "ideologies or ways of worship, not dharma," asserting that "dharma is universal." On political matters, Chandra criticized opposition to the Char Dham Yatra in Uttarakhand, saying that while he accepts opposition to his government or party, "do not oppose the Char Dham Yatra," calling it a matter of dharma, the state's prosperity, and employment. He also encouraged service to the poor, suggesting that donating a percentage of one's income leads to household happiness and positive energy.

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Narrator1:10

Some people only take, they don't give. And some people take a little and give a little. And some people take very little and give a lot. His name is Dr. Subhash Chandra.

We all know his stories, we all know his shows, we all know by now he is like a family member even to you, even to the viewers. Thank you, thank you. Subhash ji, very much, please come on the stage.

Subhash Chandra2:06

Today we are going to talk about MBA versus... MBA versus Entrepreneur. Many people, especially today's youth, and those of you watching my show at home, I want to say that many people in our country understand the meaning of doing an MBA as becoming a big businessman. Today we will discuss: is it true that after doing an MBA you become successful? Success is a secondary matter, but what do you become after an MBA? Let's see what our preparation says.

Audience Member3:20

I am doing a job because it doesn't require any capital. In business, if you want to invest, you need a lot of capital in the initial stages.

In the beginning, it requires a lot of investment. But once you work hard and your business is set, then your earnings become triple or four times. You get a monthly salary, which is quite beneficial compared to a business.

I have left my job and now I have my own business. I am the owner myself. I can decide who will be my client and who won't.

The benefit of jobs is that, firstly, it is secure. A job is secure. There is a little risk in business.

Subhash Chandra4:02

So there is a little risk in business, and a job is secure. Do you have any idea how many MBA institutions and colleges are in our country? Any wild guess?

Audience Member4:23

5000, someone said.

25000.

7000.

Subhash Chandra4:33

We have 55,000 colleges in India who give you an MBA degree. 55,000. And on average, 100 boys and girls graduate from these colleges every year. That means 5 lakh MBA graduates enter the job market every year.

But what is today's topic? MBA versus Entrepreneurship. Does doing an MBA mean you've become an entrepreneur? What do you think?

Audience Member5:16

I think that MBA teaches you how to add value, and entrepreneurship teaches you how to create value.

Subhash Chandra5:22

That's a very good answer. Very good answer. What is your name?

Audience Member5:26

Saurabh Puranik.

Subhash Chandra5:27

Saurabh Puranik. Value addition versus value creation. That is the difference. Good, Saurabh.

Audience Member5:33

Entrepreneurship is about living your dreams and passion, following your passion. And MBA teaching is how to get a job and employment. So this is the major difference I find.

Subhash Chandra5:43

So what she is saying is a very good differentiation between an MBA and an entrepreneur. If we say it in one line, one is a job seeker who asks for a job, and the other, the entrepreneur, is a job creator. This is the difference between an MBA and an entrepreneur. Do you agree?

Let's move forward with this. Out of the 55,000 colleges I mentioned, if we leave out 20, 30, or a maximum of 50 colleges that provide 100% job placement, the remaining 54,500... I have seen boys and girls from there lining up to become clerks in government jobs. They don't even get a clerk's job. So this is the situation. But I am not saying you shouldn't do an MBA. I believe an MBA teaches you how to analyze, how to analyze risk factors, and mostly tells you the do's and don'ts. But perhaps it kills the capability to take risks.

Along with the students here, at least 20,000 to 25,000 students from India also go abroad to study. They go to do some business degree or something additional. I don't know why they go, but they do. They say that perhaps there is more practical training there, more practical aspects are taught. And the situation here is that a colleague of mine who works with us, she said, 'Sir, when I went to take admission in an MBA college, when I was asked why I wanted to do an MBA, I said I want to become an entrepreneur. The interviewer was not happy. They want you to become a job seeker. They don't want you to become a job creator.' This is our irony.

But still, after doing an MBA, I say that if I had also done an MBA, maybe I wouldn't have progressed. But if I think about it now, I say, 'Man, if I had done an MBA, maybe I could have made better management decisions.' But after analyzing everything, my experience tells me that an MBA is like a... what example should we take? A cake. We buy and eat a cake, we cut it on birthdays. The cherry that is put on top of the cake, that is what an MBA is on the cake. The cherry doesn't make a cake, but it makes it probably tastier and maybe look more presentable. So it's not about presentation. But on the other hand, if we look at the qualities of an entrepreneur, an entrepreneur is like a soldier, an army soldier, or a police soldier, whatever you call it. While doing an MBA, they are taught through simulations how to handle such situations, how to run if needed, many things are taught. But when he faces a bullet from an enemy or a terrorist, that is not taught in education. That comes from within him, that 'I don't care, I will take the bullet from the enemy but I will not let them advance.' So this is the difference between theoretical education and practical education.

But someone else said that an MBA is always about causal reasoning. Causal reasoning. To reason about something, 'I have studied this, I have done case studies, I have been taught.' They reason based on case studies. We call that causal reasoning. And what will an entrepreneur do? Effectual reasoning. He will find reasoning that is effective. This is a small nuance in all these things. Today, among us, there is a change-maker. Today we will learn from her what she has done. Bina Lashkari ji. She is a co-founder, secretary, and executive director of Door Step School. May I have you on the stage, please? Welcome.

Narrator11:39

Although we will show you more about her, since 1989, Bina ji established Door Step School. Under it, other education programs in multiple, across multiple areas across Mumbai to create access to basic education.

Bina Lashkari12:02

Yes, right.

Narrator12:04

And what did she teach? Basic things. She taught street children that if you are going to school, first check the bus number. Don't get on the wrong bus. Don't let anyone take you to the wrong place. She started with very basic things. We salute such change-makers. Let's see some more details about her.

Education is the most powerful weapon to change the world. Some people are different from the crowd because they see every subject from a different perspective. Veena Seth Lashkari is also one of those people. In 1990, you started Door Step School and took up the task of teaching underprivileged children. Through Door Step School, Bina tried to reach those children who could not enroll in school due to financial constraints.

Bina Lashkari13:12

My biggest objective is to first give a child a life goal, and after that, they will take their life forward on their own. So I feel that what we are able to give through education, we couldn't give through anything else.

Narrator13:27

Bina made an effort, and through her campaign, the light of education reached many homes. Expanding this campaign, in 1998, you started a bus service named 'School on Wheels'. The purpose of this scheme was to educate those children who were homeless.

Bina Lashkari13:49

It is a life goal that children who are not going to school and cannot study, to reach them with education and bring them to school. Veena, you always say that we should never underestimate our capabilities. We can do anything if we want.

Subhash Chandra14:15

Bina ji, what inspiration would you give to our audience and everyone sitting here? What came to your mind that you started this?

Bina Lashkari14:27

It's a very old story. Like you, I was a student and was thinking that after doing post-graduation, I would get a very good job and do good work. But putting all that aside, when I was doing my Master in Social Work, I saw many children who were not going to school for some reason. These were mostly working children. And when I saw the smiles in those children's eyes, I felt that no post-graduation would help me reach these children. So for me, it was necessary to reach these children. I established our organization, Door Step School, and we saw that if these children cannot reach the school, then the school should reach where these children are. Swami Vivekananda said in his life that if we cannot bring children to school, then the school should go to the children. What I am telling you today is from my personal experience. I have not done an MBA anywhere, nor do I have a Master's degree in anything other than Social Work.

Subhash Chandra15:30

You may not have done it, but I will call you a social entrepreneur. What do you say about that?

Bina Lashkari15:37

You can say social entrepreneur because I have taken many risks in life. I feel that by taking risks, one becomes a social entrepreneur. Because you go against society. There are many things that society does not accept, but we want to do something against it by taking a risk. I will tell you a simple thing. When I was carrying the concept of 'School on Wheels' to our donors, many people were laughing. They said, 'You won't get any appreciation in this. You will get depreciation. What benefit will you get from this?' But when we started in 1990, I was carrying this concept. In '95, we launched the first bus. Now there are five buses in Bombay and five in Pune. And we are seeing the results: every year, about 400-500 children who were never going to go to school, who are street children, who sell limbu-mirchi, who beg, we are able to reach them and enroll them in school.

Subhash Chandra16:35

Ma'am, entrepreneurship... I feel that for me, it means multiplying your efforts and reaching many people. Entrepreneurship means creating value in anything. You prepare 500 children and get them admitted to good schools. After that, their life moves forward. But still, tell me, what is the difference between a social entrepreneur and a social worker according to you?

Bina Lashkari17:07

I'll tell you simply. The work we do is development work. It is not charity. If you look at it correctly, when we talk about social work, people say, 'We fed 50 children, gave clothes somewhere.' Even today, many people come and say, 'Today is a special occasion at our place, so we want to feed people. We want to do charity.' So that is called social work, according to me.

Subhash Chandra17:28

That's a very good answer. Very good answer.

Bina Lashkari17:31

But if you ask about a social entrepreneur, I will say it's development work. Here, we don't talk about charity. Here, we want to teach values. We want to tell children on a principle basis that nothing in life is free. If you really want to go further, you have to earn and you have to work towards it. So that is called development work, which is done by the social end.

Subhash Chandra17:51

Tell me, how did you learn all this? I meet many highly educated PhD economists, and even they cannot give the definition you are giving. Where did you learn this from?

Bina Lashkari18:04

I feel it's from life's experience. As I said before, I haven't studied an MBA or much theory. But when you interact with children, what we see in day-to-day life, I feel that's what gives you a different vision and a different language.

Subhash Chandra18:21

Very good. Very good. What questions do you have for Bina ji?

Audience Member18:26

What's your funding model?

Subhash Chandra18:28

Sorry. Where do you get your funding from?

Bina Lashkari18:30

Initially, for the first two years, there was no funding from anyone. Funding started from individuals. When one person saw that such good work was happening and it needed to be expanded, it started from there. After that, a family trust came forward. And now, with the government's support, CSR is a must, and CSR in education is a must. A lot of things come from the corporate side for education. But unfortunately, in the past, there was a struggle, but now there is no struggle. Now many people who understand come forward and give.

Subhash Chandra19:05

I say this, I have never seen any organization doing development work stop because of funds. That's true. There are many people in this country to give funds. There are not enough people to do the work.

Audience Member19:20

Ma'am, in India, there are criticisms of women if they want to start and do anything. So as you started around two decades ago, what were the challenges that as a woman you had to face?

Bina Lashkari19:32

Very right. 25 years ago, the story was very different. Because being a girl and doing a different kind of work, going to slums and working with poor children, it was not acceptable. Because at that time, slums were labeled as a bad area and a bad thing. So right from my family, I had a struggle to convince them and explain that people live there too, just like us. They also work hard and earn a living. I had to go there. It was a very simple thing to just get married. The boy never said yes because I was a social worker and I was doing a very different kind of work.

Subhash Chandra20:11

How did you meet your husband?

Bina Lashkari20:13

Oh, my husband was my first person to sponsor my program. So I was lucky that he is my lifelong sponsor.

Subhash Chandra20:17

Oh, wow! So if you do good work, you will get a good husband, a good wife, a good partner. Bina ji, thank you very much for coming here, for coming on this show. We will meet you again. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much.

So you saw a woman, a girl, who started her work as a social entrepreneur, and today she has put 2 lakh children on the right path. This is the great strength and wisdom of this country. Now it's the turn of the topic you might want to know more about, and the person you might want to ask more questions to. I was having a little difficulty pronouncing his name. I asked him three times, 'Sir, what name should I call you?' He gave some name. I still made a mistake. Then he said, 'Leave it, don't call me Value Money Doctor. Value, you understand. Consider my name Value Money.' So today we introduce you to Dr. Value Money. He is the founder, chairman, and MD, CEO of Thyrocare. You've heard the name. Dr. Value Money. He came to this city with 500 rupees and slept on the platform. And today he has built a company worth thousands of crores. And he teaches value to at least 2,000 entrepreneurs. Not just by keeping the name Value Money, but by teaching real value. And he also has a political party. You'll be surprised, right? A businessman's political party is rare. Its name is SBADMK. Now I don't have the details either. We will ask him what the name is. Welcome, Mr. Value Money, Dr. Value Money.

Dr. Velu Mani22:45

Welcome, Doctor. Thank you. Yes, hello. If you want to become a billionaire, there are three ways. One is your father should be a billionaire. That chance is gone. Almost gone. Second, your father-in-law should be a billionaire. They don't look at a one-bedroom hall kitchen, so the chances of you getting a billionaire are not there. The third, the only way to become a billionaire is SBADMK. Join his party. SB, sit straight. AD, look at yourself. MK, work hard.

Subhash Chandra23:44

Very good, Doctor Sahib. Thank you very much for coming on to this show. As I say, Dr. Subhash Chandra today only shares his experiences, but in this country, there are thousands and lakhs of motivators. That's why we decided that in this show, we will bring some good motivators. He is one of those motivators. How do you motivate youth and what do you do? Can you tell us, Doctor?

Dr. Velu Mani24:11

I just tell the truth. So they automatically like it. I tell them where I came from. I came from a village. And my father was a landless farmer. I had poverty.

Subhash Chandra24:29

How can a farmer be landless?

Dr. Velu Mani24:31

He knows how to work in agriculture, but he doesn't have land. An agricultural coolie, a laborer who works in the fields. Yes. So, success in life is delta. Delta is x2 minus x1. x1 was where you were, and x2 is where you are. And if x1 was zero, do you have anything to lose? Nothing. Like those who are born poor, because they have nothing to lose. There is no downside for a poor person. So this is what I believe. I go to villages.

Subhash Chandra25:10

So what you want to say is that it's necessary to be poor to become a millionaire.

Dr. Velu Mani25:16

Listen. He who has not sat down cannot come up. This is a very good thing.

Subhash Chandra25:26

Absolutely well said. So if you are the son of a very rich man, do one thing: go bankrupt. After that, what will you do? How do you motivate the people with you?

Dr. Velu Mani25:44

I am saying this because I was in an unemployed situation. When I explain, I say, 'Unfortunately, no one gave me a job in Coimbatore. Fortunately, no one gave me a job in Coimbatore. Yes. The company that gave me a job also closed down in 4 years. I came to Mumbai. Fortunately, there was no one to receive me. I slept on the VT railway platform for three days. I got a government job. Fortunately, I left that too.' When a man wins, everything becomes fortunate.

Subhash Chandra26:22

Very good. Very well said.

Dr. Velu Mani26:26

So I explain this to people, and they understand. There are only two things in life. One is security. The other is prosperity. There is nothing known as secured prosperity. MBA gives you security. And risk-taking gives you prosperity. So I always tell people, romance with risk. Don't misunderstand. Romance with risk. The biggest is the risk, the biggest is the outcome. So I motivate people. I left a government job, got one lakh rupees provident fund, and invested it. Today, Thyrocare's market cap on the National Stock Exchange is 4,000 crores.

Subhash Chandra27:15

Very good.

Dr. Velu Mani27:20

And I have one more statement to motivate people. There is a proverb in Tamil. Take a long hair, tie a knot in it, throw it over a mountain, and pull. If the mountain comes, great. If not, what's lost? Only a hair, it will grow back. This is entrepreneurship.

Subhash Chandra27:45

He said to take a long hair, tie a knot in it. Not mine. I have to take a long hair, a girl's hair. And throw it on the mountain and pull. If the mountain comes down, very good. If not, what's lost? Only a hair from the head, it will grow back.

I am sure you would want to ask a lot of questions to Dr. Value Money?

Audience Member28:13

Yes. My question is, how did this idea of Thyrocare come to you? I mean, why specifically Thyrocare?

Dr. Velu Mani28:19

Ideas are like sperms. How many millions come, only one works.

Subhash Chandra28:35

So an idea came, and the idea in which I got pregnant, that idea became very good. Don't ask anyone how you got the idea. Because if you don't get an idea, you are stupid. Everybody gets an idea every alternate day. When you see somebody suffering, you get an idea. When somebody is selling at a higher price, you get an idea. The unmet needs of society are infinite. Infinite. You will definitely get it. You will get it.

That's very good. Very good. Yes.

Audience Member29:11

You said people who are poor do not have anything to lose. What's your definition of poor, sir?

Dr. Velu Mani29:16

Make a pyramid of 10 slices of economy. Make a pyramid of 10 slices of economy. If you are in 1, 2, 3, you are rich. If you are in 8, 9, 10, you are poor. So if I was in the bottom-most slice, slice number 10, I have now become a member in the top slice. Now this is a journey. And I always believe if you are up in the slice, you are likely to go down. But if you are down in the slice, you have a very good opportunity to move up.

Audience Member30:00

Sir, you told that many ideas come, but when do you know that you have found the perfect idea?

Dr. Velu Mani30:07

Oh. There is... you know, there is nothing known as a good decision. There is a decision, and you have to make it good. There is nothing known as a good job. There is a job, and you have to make it good. And there is nothing known as a good idea. You got an idea, and make it good. By the way, by the way, there is nothing known as a good spouse.

Subhash Chandra30:42

Doctor, you have not done an MBA, nor has your wife, but you have 700 employees in your company. You must have MBAs in that.

Dr. Velu Mani30:54

Yes. I could not buy an engineering application form because that was a five-year course my father could not afford. Today I have engineers working under me. Very good. I didn't do medicine. Today we have around dozens of medical doctors working under me. And MBAs, as you said, there are 55,000 engineering colleges, so there are many MBAs. In fact, it's very difficult to avoid an MBA inside a company. Open the gate, MBAs come in. But let me also explain. I have 1,000 employees. For all 1,000 employees, I am the first employer.

Subhash Chandra31:37

Oh, wow! So they are taking a job for the first time?

Dr. Velu Mani31:41

Absolutely.

Subhash Chandra31:43

That's wonderful. So you only give jobs to freshers? You know why?

Dr. Velu Mani31:48

Yes. When my B.Sc. finished in 1978, I failed in 50 interviews.

Subhash Chandra31:55

Really?

Dr. Velu Mani31:55

Everyone asked, 'Do you have experience?' That's when I decided, if I open this company, I will only take freshers.

Subhash Chandra32:05

Very good. Very good. Very good.

Audience Member32:08

That means I don't stand any chance to make an application.

Dr. Velu Mani32:11

Absolutely not, because I can't have an employee above my age. The mean age of the company is 24 years. Mind you, an organization which is 21 years old has a mean age of 24 years. I am 60. Your age is also 26, 27.

Subhash Chandra32:26

Yes, 27. Yes. Any other question from all of you?

Audience Member32:34

Sir. So the question is, sir, would you actually recommend practical experience over and above academic qualifications?

Dr. Velu Mani32:43

Experience is not something you need to have when you enter an organization. Because the organization has its own products, its own services, its own culture. You literally can learn everything. Why I take freshers is it is easy to teach them rather than wasting time on unlearning what they have wrongly learned.

Subhash Chandra33:04

Very well said. That's very good.

Dr. Velu Mani33:07

Yeah. So I don't think experience is something you would really need to have. But once you have gone inside, you must learn very fast. You must learn before your neighbor learns, so that in the pyramid, you are a slice above the neighbor.

Subhash Chandra33:23

Very good.

Dr. Velu Mani33:24

Academic qualification is not important. Experience also not important. Ability to focus is the most important. In my organization, we don't look at the qualifications at all seriously. But if somebody cannot focus, we can't retain them. The only single most powerful asset you can have is an ability to focus. You know, I want you people to go with four words in your mind: Focus, Learn, Grow, and Enjoy. Please don't change the order.

Subhash Chandra34:05

I say, wonderful. Don't change the order also.

Dr. Velu Mani34:08

Yes, because he will start enjoying first.

Subhash Chandra34:12

So repeat again for my viewers sitting at home.

Dr. Velu Mani34:15

Focus.

Subhash Chandra34:17

Yes.

Dr. Velu Mani34:17

Learn.

Subhash Chandra34:18

Yes.

Dr. Velu Mani34:19

Grow.

Subhash Chandra34:20

Grow.

Dr. Velu Mani34:20

And Enjoy. And please don't change the order.

Subhash Chandra34:23

Right. Very good. Wonderful. Now, what would you tell the viewers who are sitting in the corporate industry, corporate entrepreneurs? A lot of people watch this show. For them, what do's and don'ts will you tell, like you have told today to the young people?

Dr. Velu Mani34:42

Don't do business for money. You will not do it for too long. Don't start a business to sell it. It won't be worth somebody to buy it. It's very important you start a business to give employment. When you start looking at employment as your core objective, you will never stop. I have 1,000 employees today. Recently, someone from the press asked, 'What is your next plan?' One more zero. So keep on adding one more zero if you are running a business. And if you are in a startup, please make sure you create an organization which you yourself would love to run for the entire life. And all investors will be keen to purchase that one only.

Subhash Chandra35:28

Very good. Thank you very much, Doctor. Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much for coming. And I have learned. I must say to my viewers that I have learned from Dr. Value Money. And I want to join his party very soon.

Dr. Velu Mani35:42

Thank you very much.

Subhash Chandra35:42

Thank you. Thank you very much.

So this is a different perspective of life. You and all of us have heard it. I have also learned. I am sure you have also learned from this today. Now, what have you learned today? I want to hear from some of you what you have learned in the past one hour while we were doing MBA versus WAS.

Audience Member36:17

Another party.

Subhash Chandra36:18

That's another party.

Audience Member36:21

Sir, I just learned that we keep saying that there is a flaw in the education system, or it's theoretical, not practical. So this seems like a distant dream that the education system will ever change. But as sir said, you will never get a perfect spouse. You have to make it good. So until we get a good education system, we make it better in our own way so that we can learn better from it.

Subhash Chandra36:42

Very good. Very good. What is your name?

Audience Member36:45

Sir, Devasheesh Bagdi.

Subhash Chandra36:46

Devasheesh has understood very well. Bagdi. Bagdi sir. Okay, very good.

Audience Member36:51

One thing I have understood over here is, normally what has happened with us, we just follow the trend. Okay, looking at the various personalities, we have understood that we should create our own trend. That is a new thing we need to start. That's the new thing I have understood from here.

Subhash Chandra37:07

Very good. Very good. Yes, that's a good thing. Yes. Food and drink give us strength to live life. A work is necessary that gives us strength and the courage to live life. So all these great people have such work that gives them happiness, and they are living their lives with this courage. That is what I have understood.

Audience Member37:29

Okay, good. Yes. I would like to say what I have learned in this past one hour is that inspiration comes from within. And if inspiration starts from here, from your heart, things can go right and according to you. If you try to find inspiration, you might not find it. But if you search for inspiration within yourself, you might find it.

Subhash Chandra37:47

A very big thing. Listen. You have learned this. This is a philosophy of our country which says, 'Aham Brahmasmi' - I am the Brahman. This statement highlights that whatever you want to do, you have as much strength within you as Dr. Value Money has, as Dr. Subhash Chandra has, as Bina ji has, as Subhash Ghai has, who can create this. You can also create as much or more. The strength is within you. Understand it within yourself. You will find the answers to all your questions from yourself. There is no great need to consult anyone outside. If you want to confuse yourself, ask 10 people, and you will get 10 different suggestions. We thank you very much for joining us today on this DSC show. Thank you all very much for watching this show. We will meet again next week. Jai Hind, Jai Bharat.