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About Scott Salmirs

On ABM Industries' second quarter 2026 earnings call, Scott Salmirs, the company's president and chief executive officer, discussed growth in aviation and technology facility maintenance contracts. He described the semiconductor buildout as "one of the most compelling growth stories in American manufacturing in the 21st century," noting that over $645 billion in private investment has been announced across more than 140 projects since 2020. Salmirs also highlighted strong tailwinds in technical solutions, citing a 52% increase in nationwide battery storage installations in 2025 and accelerating data center construction driven by AI. He stated that ABM's technical solutions segment is positioned at "the intersection of energy resiliency electrification and AI infrastructure." Salmirs addressed the company's financial strategy, saying ABM remains focused on reducing leverage to below three times and maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation. He commented on regional differences in commercial real estate, noting that vacancy rates in cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle are "two or three times worse than New York City," attributing this to the tech-heavy West Coast versus the banking and legal sectors on the East Coast. Regarding the semiconductor market, Salmirs described ABM's role as serving the facility exterior while its acquisition of WGMstar serves the fabrication interior, making the combined company a "seamless provider."

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Transcript (65 segments)
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Paul Goldberg0:00
Good morning everyone and welcome to ABM's second quarter 2026 earnings call. My name is Paul Goldberg and I'm the senior vice president of investor relations at ABM. With me today are Scott Salmirs, our president and chief executive officer, and David, our executive vice president and chief financial officer. Please note that earlier this morning we issued our press release announcing our second quarter 2026 financial results and outlook. A copy of that release and an accompanying slide presentation can be found on our website, abm.com. After Scott and David's prepared remarks, we will host the Q&A session. But before we begin, I would like to remind you that our call and presentation today contain predictions, estimates, and other forward-looking statements. Words like estimate, expect, and similar expressions are intended to identify these statements and they represent our current judgment of what the future holds. While we believe them to be reasonable, these statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These factors are described in a slide that accompanies our presentation as well as our filings with the SEC. During the course of this call, certain non-GAAP financial information will be presented. A reconciliation of historical non-GAAP numbers to GAAP financial measures is available at the end of the presentation and on the company's website under the investor tab. And with that, I would like to now turn the call over to Scott.
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Scott Salmirs1:43
Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss ABM's second quarter fiscal 2026 results. We had a strong quarter. Organic revenue growth came in at 6.1% and I'm especially pleased to report that our first half new sales bookings reached $1.2 billion, a new record for ABM. Organic growth was especially strong in technical solutions and aviation. While in M&D, we saw healthy underlying organic demand complemented by the WGMstar acquisition, which is performing well and adding meaningfully to the segment's results right out of the gate. Education continued to post steady growth, and BNI was flat organically. BNI was impacted by the exit of a large UK client during the second quarter and by our decisions to exit several other clients, especially on the West Coast where commercial real estate markets have yet to fully recover, creating pressure in the market. Stepping back from the top line for a moment, we also executed well operationally. Margins improved sequentially and free cash flow was up significantly in the first half compared to last year, which I'm very pleased with. As we look ahead to the second half, the setup is compelling. We expect volume to ramp meaningfully in both ATS and M&D, and service mix within ATS in particular should improve as the project pipeline matures and our backlog execution ramps sequentially. Layered on top of that, our cost discipline and price escalation actions are gaining traction. Taken together, we expect these drivers to produce a significant step up in both earnings and margin as we move through the back half of the year. While the near-term macroeconomic environment remains dynamic, ABM operates in markets that offer a compelling combination of secular growth opportunities in areas like energy infrastructure, semiconductors, and airport modernization alongside the steady, predictable revenue streams that have always been ABM's foundation. When taken together with the strong operating culture we have in place, ABM is well positioned to capture the long-term growth opportunities ahead. So let me share more. Within business and industry, the prime office recovery continues to gain traction. Although as mentioned, the market is still experiencing some softness on the West Coast. US office leasing is approaching 2019 levels. Net absorption turned significantly positive in the first quarter, the strongest since 2020, and prime vacancy rates continue to tighten. New supply remains extremely limited with the construction pipeline nearly 90% below its 2020 peak. The flight to quality dynamic continues to favor exactly the types of prime assets where ABM is concentrated and we expect to see positive spillover into the next tier of high-quality buildings. This dynamic is translating into real wins. Last year, we were selected to service the new headquarters of the nation's largest bank here in New York City, and we recently followed that with a significant new facilities contract with another of the nation's leading commercial banks. These wins reflect both the strength of the office recovery and the confidence that world-class clients are placing in ABM. Turning to M&D, the semiconductor buildout may turn out to be one of the most compelling growth stories in American manufacturing in the 21st century. Over $645 billion in private investment has been announced across 140 plus projects since 2020 with major commitments from companies such as TSMC, Micron, Intel, Samsung, and Texas Instruments. The WGM Star acquisition has significantly strengthened our presence in semiconductor fabrication environments and the benefits are already becoming evident. During the second quarter, we secured tens of millions of dollars in new business and delivered high double-digit organic revenue growth across our semiconductor market. And beyond semiconductors, e-commerce growth and US manufacturing reshoring continue to support healthy demand across the segment, which will continue to benefit us. In aviation, the fundamentals remain strong. TSA throughput is running close to 3 million passengers per day and leisure demand remains robust. Airport infrastructure investment is at elevated levels as aging terminals drive a sustained modernization pipeline, and our recent wins at Orlando International, Miami International, and LaGuardia Terminal B reflect the strength of that pipeline. While rising fuel costs will likely create some near-term challenges for our airline clients, the long-term trajectory of this business is positive and our pipeline of new opportunities continues to evolve. In education, the numbers tell a compelling story. K through 12 schools in this country average 49 years in age. There's an $85 billion annual funding gap for repair and modernization, and higher education construction spending in that area continues at near record levels. These dynamics should create durable long-term demand for ABM services. Our strong retention rates and ABM Performance Solutions offering position us to capture an increasing share of this opportunity. And our recently awarded $25 million Detroit public schools contract is a tangible demonstration of that. And in technical solutions, the tailwinds are as strong as we have seen. Nationwide battery storage installations were up 52% in 2025. AI is accelerating data center construction at double-digit pace globally, and micro grids are becoming essential infrastructure for the modern electric grid. This is precisely where ATS is most differentiated, sitting at the intersection of energy resiliency, electrification, and AI infrastructure. Another recent micro grid win with a major big box retailer along with a variety of other energy storage and infrastructure projects booked this quarter are proof points of what we believe will be a multi-year growth cycle for this segment. Now, looking specifically at the remainder of the year, we expect strong results in technical solutions driven by higher volume and improved mix. M&D is also expected to deliver robust results as new business continues to come online and WGMstar ramps up. Education will continue to be solid. BNI revenue will likely moderate in the back half of the year due to client exits, including the large UK client I previously discussed. And in aviation, while air travel demand remains robust, we are watching the potential impact of rising fuel costs on our airline clients. Overall though, our end markets remain largely constructive and we continue to closely monitor the evolving macroeconomic environment. We remain focused on reducing leverage to below three times, maintaining a disciplined approach to capital allocation, and executing against our full-year outlook as we operate with focus and financial discipline. With that, I'll turn it over to David.
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David9:49
Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Let's start on slide six. Revenue grew 8.4% year-over-year to a second quarter record of $2.3 billion, driven by 6.1% organic growth and a 2.3% contribution from acquisitions, primarily WGM Star. Consolidated organic growth was the strongest we've delivered since Q3 of 2022 with technical solutions and aviation leading the way. By segment, technical solutions grew revenue 27%, aviation was up 20%, and manufacturing and distribution grew 17%. Education grew 2% while BNI was essentially flat. Overall, we remain pleased with the growth trajectory of the business, reflecting the resiliency and diversity of our end markets as well as our investments in sales talent and industry expertise, which helped deliver record first half new sales bookings of $1.2 billion. Turning to slide seven, net income for the quarter was $43.1 million or $0.73 per diluted share compared to $42.2 million or $0.67 per diluted share in the prior year period. Adjusted net income was $52.9 million or $0.90 per diluted share versus $54.1 million or $0.86 per diluted share last year. These year-over-year changes primarily reflect higher interest and amortization expense offset by lower tax expense and corporate costs. Per share measures were boosted by our recent share repurchase activities. Adjusted EBITDA increased $5.8 million over the prior year to $131.7 million. Segment operating margin increased 20 basis points sequentially to 7.3%. On a year-over-year basis, segment margin decreased 60 basis points, primarily reflecting the impact of contracts that came online last year in M&D and BNI, as well as higher amortization expense related to the WGM Star acquisition. We expect healthy sequential margin improvement in the third and fourth quarters driven by improved mix in ATS and our ongoing price escalation and cost actions. Now, let's turn to segment performance beginning with slide 8. BNI revenue was essentially flat with last year at $1 billion. This performance was driven by overall strength in our UK markets, partially offset by the mid-quarter exit of a large UK-based client and the impact of certain other client exits, particularly on the West Coast. Looking forward, we expect growth to moderate in the back half of the year, primarily due to the full run rate impact of the previously mentioned client exits. Operating profit was $76.7 million and margin was 7.6% compared to $83 million and 8.2% respectively last year. This margin change primarily reflects shifts in contract mix along with increased investments in sales resources to support long-term growth. Margin improved 10 basis points sequentially as we continue to make progress on our cost and price escalation actions. Aviation revenue grew 20% to $310.8 million supported by healthy travel demand and the ramp of new contract wins, particularly our new Heathrow contract. Looking to the back half of the year, organic growth will remain strong but moderate from Q2 as we anniversary several large contracts that were brought on in Q3 of last year. Operating profit was $16.3 million with a margin of 5.3% compared to $16.5 million and 6.3% last year. Profit and margin were pressured by incremental weather-related costs, certain contract scope changes, and TSA-driven operational disruptions during the quarter, as well as by ramp-up costs for the new Heathrow contract. Turning to slide nine, M&D generated $463.8 million in revenue, a 17% increase year-over-year, including organic growth of 7% and 9% growth from the WGM Star acquisition. The strong organic growth was driven by recent contract wins, particularly in the technology sector, along with continued client expansions across the segment. Operating profit was $40.6 million with a margin of 8.8% compared to $39.9 million and 10% last year. As anticipated, margin increased 20 basis points sequentially. On a year-over-year basis, the margin change reflects the mix of new contracts secured last year that are helping to drive organic growth. Margin was also impacted by $4 million in incremental amortization expense connected with the WGM Star acquisition. Excluding incremental amortization, margin was 9.6%, which we believe better reflects the underlying long-term earnings power and margin profile of the segment. Education revenue rose 2% to $232.2 million, primarily driven by escalations. The segment delivered strong operating performance with operating profit increasing 19% to $16.4 million and margin expanding 100 basis points to 7%. This improvement was driven by enhanced labor efficiency and effective escalation management. Our education team continues to execute at a high level and win meaningful new business such as a large ABM Performance Solutions contract from the Detroit public school system which will come fully online in the fourth quarter. We also expanded our scope with the University of Miami, a long-standing and important client. Looking ahead, we expect margin to improve in the third quarter, which is always a seasonally strong period for education. Technical Solutions second quarter revenue was $267.3 million, up 27% year-over-year, including 22% organic growth and 6% from acquisitions. Organic growth reflected robust activity in our data center markets as well as strong growth in battery energy storage system and HVAC project activity. Additionally, we booked significant new micro grid business in the second quarter with a major big box retailer which supports our expectations for a strong second half in terms of revenue and mix. Operating profit was $16.8 million with a margin of 6.3% compared to $13.4 million at 6.4% last year. The increase in profit was driven by significant volume growth. Margin primarily reflected service mix that was less weighted to design and engineering and more weighted to equipment-intensive infrastructure project services as well as ongoing investments in growth. We expect the service mix to improve in the back half of the year as has been our historical performance cadence within technical solutions. Now turning to slide 10. We ended the quarter with total indebtedness of $1.9 billion including $23 million in standby letters of credit. Our total debt to pro forma adjusted EBITDA ratio was 3.2 times. Available liquidity stood at $614 million including $95 million in cash and cash equivalents. As expected, the WGM Star acquisition pushed leverage above three times in the second quarter and we expect to work it back down under three times by the end of our fiscal year. Second quarter cash from operations was $66.2 million and free cash flow was $22.4 million. For the first six months, cash flow from operations was $128.2 million and free cash flow was $71.2 million versus a use of cash of $73.9 million and negative free cash flow of $107.8 million in the prior year period. This year-over-year improvement of approximately $180 million during the first six months was driven by strong working capital management efforts and continued progress on our ERP stabilization. Now turning to capital allocation. As mentioned, we're focused on reducing our leverage below three times. And as such, our near-term priority is debt repayment, but we'll remain flexible as potential value creation opportunities present themselves. At quarter end, $89 million remained under our existing authorization. Interest expense in the quarter was $28.1 million, up $4.2 million from last year, reflecting larger average debt balances driven by our WGM Star acquisition. Turning to our fiscal 2026 outlook on slide 11, as Scott noted, while we remain encouraged by the relative health of our end markets, we're mindful of broader economic uncertainty. Accordingly, we're maintaining our previously communicated fiscal 2026 adjusted EPS outlook. As a reminder, our full-year organic revenue growth outlook is 3 to 4%, and we now expect to be toward the higher end of that range. Aviation, M&D, and Technical Solutions are expected to grow above that range, while BNI and education are projected to be below that range. The WGM Star acquisition is expected to deliver approximately one additional point of revenue growth, bringing total growth to the high end of our 4 to 5% range. Segment operating margin is expected to be toward the low end of our range of 7.8 to 8% for fiscal 2026 with margin expansion weighted toward the back half of the year primarily driven by improved mix and volume in ATS. Interest expense is now forecast to be approximately $110 million driven by higher than forecasted interest rates. We plan to offset this headwind with additional cost actions. Our normalized tax rate before any discrete items, including the possible extension of the work opportunity tax credit program, is still expected to be 29 to 30%. We feel good about our progress generating cash and are confident in our expectations. And as a reminder, we expect free cash flow of approximately $250 million in 2026 before the impact of transformation and integration costs, the final Raven vault burn-off, and any incremental restructuring. Putting it all together, we continue to expect full-year adjusted EPS to be in the range of $3.85 to $4.15. In addition, we've been actively implementing operational and process improvements to our insurance program over the last six months. We believe these changes will ultimately enable us to better predict the in-year impact of prior year self-insurance adjustments. As such, our full-year fiscal 2026 outlook no longer excludes the expected impacts of such adjustments, which we believe provides greater predictability and transparency in our outlook going forward. And with that, I'll hand it back over to Scott for closing remarks.
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Scott Salmirs20:19
Thanks, David. In closing, I'm pleased with where ABM stands. We are growing, we are generating cash, and our end markets are largely constructive. We have more work to do, particularly in driving consistent margin improvement, but the trajectory is positive and the back half of the year gives us real opportunity to demonstrate that. We remain disciplined stewards of capital. Near-term that means staying focused on deleveraging. Longer term, it means continuing to shape our portfolio and invest in areas where ABM can become a more integrated and important supplier to our clients and generate the most shareholder value. Lastly, I want to take a moment to thank our team. More than 100,000 people show up every day and deliver for our clients, and their commitment is what makes ABM's long-term story possible. With that, we'll open up the line for questions.
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Operator21:21
Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. To ask as many questions as possible, we ask that you each keep one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
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Tim Mulrooney21:57
David, good morning. So I wanted to ask about your power solutions business here which seems to be running pretty hot right now with more micro grid activity expected in the back half here. But on the second quarter specifically, were there any really large projects in there like the battery storage system or anything else that had a significant contribution to that 22% organic growth number we saw in the quarter?
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David22:28
Hey Tim, it's David. Thanks for the question. We did have a really good quarter on the battery energy storage side. There were a couple of large projects as you mentioned, and those projects carry a little bit different profile. They're heavy on equipment, heavy on infrastructure, and the margins are a little less just because you've got so much equipment going into the jobs. But we see that momentum continuing not only on those jobs in the second half, and really ramping up our more traditional micro grid work for switch gear and generators in the second half as well.
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Scott Salmirs22:59
And Tim, just to give you a little more build out on that, I'll go super high level on this. When you look at our ATS project work, you can almost think of it in two phases. It's the design and the engineering, and then it's the turning the wrenches part. The turning the wrenches part is lower margin than designing and engineering. So when you look at the mix for this quarter, when you look at margin, we were heavily weighted towards the turning of the wrenches part. And we think in the back half, or we know in the back half, we're going to have a lot more of the designing and engineering and you'll see the margins ramp in the back half if that helps a little bit.
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Tim Mulrooney23:36
That's really helpful. That was actually my other question was I was going to ask about the margin trajectory and the mix, but I appreciate the color there, Scott. Thank you. And David, maybe I'll follow up with something else in technical solutions. I noticed in your slides you highlighted higher HVAC project activity in the quarter. HVAC technicians we all know right now are in such a high demand nationwide for data center construction projects. I'm curious if you're seeing more work crop up in the building environment on the retrofit side because perhaps some other companies that you'd normally compete with on these jobs are now just solely focused on new data center construction. Are you seeing more opportunities open up?
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Scott Salmirs24:25
I would say we're strong across the board. I don't think we're seeing one particular segment versus the other. Obviously, data centers are really strong, but I think we're seeing it kind of broad-based right now, Tim.
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Tim Mulrooney24:40
Okay, thank you.
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Operator24:44
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jasper Biff with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
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Jasper Biff24:52
Hey, good morning guys. I know you raised the organic growth quite a bit today. It still implies a little bit of deceleration in the back half of the year. Sounds like at the segment level things are mostly running ahead of that range with the exception of BNI due to some client exits. I guess I'm wondering if the flat growth in the second quarter reflects the full impact of those client exits in BNI or maybe the segment would decelerate a bit more in the next few quarters. Thank you.
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David25:20
Hey Jasper, you're calling from a bad line. Maybe you could just repeat that question. Hopefully it'll come across clear. We hardly heard it.
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Jasper Biff25:32
I'm sorry. Hopefully this is better. Yeah, okay. Great. So, my question was on BNI. You mentioned some client exits in the quarter. I was wondering if the flat growth in the second quarter reflected the full impact of the client exits or maybe the segment would decelerate a bit more in the next two quarters as you see the full impact of the exits talked about.
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Scott Salmirs25:57
Yeah, maybe I'll just break down BNI for you. I think the majority of the pressure that we're seeing was that the TSL exit that we talked about and that was pretty significant. And then the other part of it that we talked about a little bit was the West Coast. Maybe I'll just give you a little bit more background on the way we see that market and what's going on. If you were to look at vacancy rates in cities like LA, San Francisco, Seattle, they're probably two or three times worse than New York City. And if you were to think about those markets, the West Coast is kind of tech heavy, whereas the East Coast is banking and legal. From a return to work standpoint, as you guys know, on the West Coast when it comes to the tech sector, they're not returning to work the same way financial services and legal is. So we're seeing pressure in those markets. And what ends up happening with that pressure is competitors will start, especially when it's been prolonged the way it's been prolonged for the last couple of years, making pricing decisions and margin decisions that just don't meet our economic thresholds. I'll just tell you, I've seen this before in my long career at ABM and this stuff tends to be episodic and it's not sustainable. So we see it waning over time, but right now we're seeing some of that pressure. And if I were to distinguish this quarter versus last year when we made some strategic decisions, for us, we have to see a path to profitability. It has to be a highly strategic account. Those were the dynamics in Q3 of last year versus what we're seeing now. So we made these decisions.
We're actually happy about the decisions we made on the exits because what you will see in BNI in the second half is our operating margins flex up, and we feel that's really important. And Jasper, I'll just give one more bit of color on that. Looking forward for BNI, the TFL exits account for about 300 basis points of growth impact for BNI in the back half. So when we talk about the proportion of the impacts, it's clearly the majority of that is going to be because of that contract exit.
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Jasper Biff28:26
Thanks. And then could you maybe provide a bit more detail on where you're at with the ERP at this point? What kind of margin opportunity you think you have there with ERP in place and running in I think three of your five segments at this point?
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Scott Salmirs28:41
Yep, you're right. Three of five are on the platform. We're in the planning phases for the last couple segments, and based on all the things we learned from the first go-lives, we'll be taking that into consideration. I think the opportunities lie ultimately in scalability and what we anticipate from an AI perspective, and how we load contracts, how we process the invoicing, our efficiencies in collecting cash. So we're mindful of that, but first things first is just getting the planning done for the next groups. And we'll provide clarity on that in future calls.
And what I'm excited about in terms of getting done with the ERP is we're just going to have a clean data set. When you think about AI and all the leverage, it's so important to have clean data to leverage your tool set on. We're heading in that direction, and I think you're going to see some meaningful opportunities in 2027, 2028 as our data set matures and our AI matures. We see a lot of runway in what we're going to be able to do with scheduling and workforce management. There are a lot of exciting initiatives coming, and we always feel like it can't come soon enough, but we're mindful of the pace and the balance. We're in a long-term situation here.
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Jasper Biff30:08
Yeah, that's helpful. Thank you for taking the question, guys.
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Operator30:14
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andy Whitman with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
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Andy Whitman30:21
Great. Good morning and thank you for taking my questions, guys. I wanted to first ask about the standby generator microgrid work that you're doing at the retailers. You've had a large retailer that has been working with you guys to install these for several years now. I think you're on at least your second, maybe your third tranche of stores that that legacy retailer has given you. It sounded like I heard here that there's a new large retailer that signed you up. I'm just trying to understand now that we've got two of these, where they are in terms of installing these types of things on their stores, both for the legacy and how much you have with this new customer, and how you're thinking, Scott, about the long term with this customer. Obviously you need to deliver quality work, but is this the beginning or is this new one likely to have phases as well? Thank you.
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Scott Salmirs31:24
Thanks. Look, I would just say at a high level, Andy, we think there's a lot more runway in the microgrid business. For us, it's not necessarily customer by customer. The big risk is having customer concentration, which you don't want to have. So we're very focused from a business development standpoint on spanning out and strategically going after a broader range of clients. It's not about one or two clients for the long term. Although right now we are heavily weighted to one and two, we're growing out of that and we're optimistic about what the next year or two will bring in terms of broadening that perspective. But with these other clients, we see really good runway in their portfolio and their programs.
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Andy Whitman32:15
Okay, got it. I guess my follow-up question is then for David. I wanted to talk about the prior year self-insurance accounting that's in your adjusted results. I'm sorry, I don't know if I quite followed this. As I understood it going back here, as we came into the year, you were no longer adjusting for this and it was going to be an add-back for years. It was not going to be this year. Did I hear you say that you made a change this quarter to putting it back in? I'm sorry, can you just clarify that? And did the change that you made this quarter have any impact? The nominal number you're saying in terms of EPS for the range for the year is the same, but was there impact from the change you made this quarter? Could you please explain that maybe more slowly this time so we can all understand?
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David33:10
Yes, sure. No problem. Just to take a step back for context, last year in Q2 we had communications with the SEC, and they were strongly advising us to record any prior year self-insurance adjustments above the line as part of our operating earnings. So we did that. Fast forward to the guidance for this year for fiscal 26, what we said was we would continue recording those adjustments as part of operating earnings. However, we weren't factoring that into our guidance. At the time, it was really a visibility issue. We had a $23 million unfavorable adjustment last year, and we were obviously not very pleased with that. As a result, we've made some real investments in this program, specifically to find ways to dampen the volatility and some real operational improvements that we think will result in meaningfully better predictability going forward. We're focused on real insurance-related programs, return to work, timely claims closing, aggressive claim settlement, and driver behavior programs. We think the combination of our focus on that, Andy, will really allow us to be more confident about predicting this type of adjustment in the future. As such, we're now confident that the results of the study we'll do this Q4 for the full year of 26 can be captured and contemplated within the guidance of $385 to $415. At the end of the day, we felt like this is about transparency. We're going to include it in the guide going forward, we're going to own it operationally, and treat it like any other operational program at this company.
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Scott Salmirs34:53
And what I would say, Andy, and why I think this is a pretty significant move, is I like to think for investors, we just derisked Q4. Prior to this, we didn't have it in the guidance. What happened last year is we had this 20 cent plus hit to EPS in Q4, and it wasn't a great effect on the stock price, to be frank. For us to come out now and say you do not have to worry about the Q4 effect, we are absorbing it into our guidance, is a big statement for investors.
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Andy Whitman35:34
Yeah, okay. That makes more sense. I guess maybe another way, I just want to check my understanding for everybody's benefit. It sounds like you've sufficiently narrowed the way you're accounting for this in the programs and all these actions so that even if there are changes in how this comes through, you think they're narrow enough that it's more predictable now than it used to be. So now you can bake it in there fully baked, which is a good outcome. Is that another simple way of looking at it, David?
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David36:08
You nailed it, Andy. It's all about predictability, and we firmly believe that the actions we've taken and the focus on the program gives us that narrowing ability.
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Andy Whitman36:19
Okay, good. All right, I'm going to leave it there, guys. Have a good day.
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Scott Salmirs36:23
Thank you.
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Operator36:26
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Fisa Always. Please proceed with your question.
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Fisa Always36:33
Yes, hi, thank you so much. I wanted to ask about WGN Star. Now that you've owned it for a few months, just wanted to get an update. I know you sound pretty good about the opportunity there, but just give us some additional color in terms of, are you seeing any changes around the competitive environment there, and how do you think about, are you growing with new business or are you seeing your existing customers grow a lot faster? I'd love to hear more about that.
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Scott Salmirs37:05
Sure, Fisa. We're thrilled with this acquisition, and the integration has gone really, really well. They're already starting to contribute meaningfully to our semiconductor space. As I think we've mentioned in the past, but let me reiterate, if you think about the semiconductor space like a bullseye, the center of the bullseye is the fabrication part, which is highly protected. Think about people in hazmat suits. The outside of that bullseye is the facility itself. We were big with semiconductor companies on the outside of that fab, whereas WGM Star was inside that fab. The combination of the two is making us a seamless provider. Year-over-year in semiconductor, we've doubled our growth. Let me give you some statistics. We have over 60 clients, we're at over 300 sites right now. If you look at fab capacity between US and European fab makers, we're in 75% of those clients. When you look at the OEMs, there are about 10 big ones, and we're doing work with seven of them right now. To be positioned in that space and have that opportunity to grow with the client, both inside and outside the fab, is going to be tremendous for us. We see double-digit growth continuing in the semiconductor space for a while.
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Fisa Always39:00
Great, that's very helpful. And then I just wanted to follow up on BNI margins because you talked about an improving trajectory from mix, and you're also investing in sales resources. So just give us a bit more perspective on where we think steady-state BNI margins should be, how much opportunity there is from mix alone, and once you ramp down the sales investment.
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Scott Salmirs39:31
Sure. You saw some sequential movement in our margins. We're up 30 basis points between Q1 and Q2, so we're seeing movement. With the decisions we've made specifically on the West Coast, you'll see some ramp down in revenue in BNI between that and the TFL. We're not expecting positive organic growth necessarily, but you're going to see margin acceleration in the back half. You'll see the proof points play out that the decisions we're making and how we're managing the business are going to have a creative margin. We're really optimistic about BNI.
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Fisa Always40:16
All right, thank you.
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Scott Salmirs40:18
Thanks, Fisa.
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Operator40:21
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Ken with UV. Please proceed with your question.
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Josh Ken40:27
Hi, good morning Scott and David. Thanks for taking my questions. Obviously really strong organic growth in the first half, 5 to 6%. Your guide obviously you're pushing it up to the high end of 3 to 4, but I guess does that decelerate in the second half? It seems like there may be opportunity even with BNI to still get perhaps above the 4% growth rate for the year. Am I on the right track in thinking that way?
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David41:00
Hey Josh, thanks for the question. Clearly the deceleration in the back half is largely driven by the TFL exits as we talked about and some of the pressure on the West Coast that Scott talked about. From a full fiscal year perspective, we're looking at more flat to maybe slightly positive growth for BNI on a full-year basis. We see that deceleration, and it obviously takes a little bit of time to lap those kinds of exits, especially with TFL for the year.
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Josh Ken41:31
Okay, thank you. And then on the price escalations, in terms of the magnitude of those price escalations, do you feel like your pricing is sufficient to offset whatever you're seeing in terms of wage inflation?
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David41:49
One of the things we're excited about, and actually a benefit of some of the new systems we have installed, is we've got really good visibility into our cost basis, especially for a lot of the bigger groups that have high volume of contracts, BNI being the main one. As part of our core day-to-day operations, we've got a tremendous focus on escalations. We feel really good about the path to capturing any cost burdens we've experienced, and that's part of the momentum that's going to continue in the back half of the year for BNI to really help ramp that sequential margin performance up.
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Scott Salmirs42:28
And what I would say, and I get enthusiastic about, is the AI-based initiatives on escalations. This is one of the places where we had an AI initiative where we scanned the contracts, generated escalation letters, and did this with an AI initiative. The AI initiatives are starting to mature, and this is one area I'm glad you brought up because we're so proud of what we're doing on the AI front.
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Josh Ken43:04
Yeah, that's good to hear. Thank you for the color, and good luck in the second half.
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Scott Salmirs43:09
Thanks.
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Operator43:12
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Silver with Freedom Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
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David Silver43:21
Yeah, hi, good morning. I'd like to ask for a little bit of color behind the $1.2 billion of new contract wins. It's a big number, and I think you're on track for another record in terms of new business wins overall. But beyond that, seeing it highlighted in a quarterly earnings release struck me as a little unusual. And I even wrap it around with the idea that you highlighted some decisions to walk away from business that wasn't generating sufficient profit. I'd like to know, if we could focus on the non-ATS portion of that, how much of the new business wins you're getting, or what would you attribute the faster pace at which you're winning new business to? I'd break it down as offense versus defense. Are you out there specifically targeting new business you want to be in strategically, or is it more defense where due to regional or company-specific characteristics, they're looking for concessions or terms that you're just not acceptable with? Some thoughts on the incremental pace of new business wins and what's behind that. Thank you.
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Scott Salmirs45:18
Yeah, let me start with you mentioning that it was unusual that we mentioned it. Just so you know, we do have a history in Q2 of updating the first half, so we've done it before. Probably not that unusual. We're excited about where we are at $1.2 billion because you have to step back and look at sentiment. The sentiment from our standpoint is that clients continue to want to work with us. We're winning this business going through presentations with broad groups of clients who are all saying yes to ABM. We like the fact that we're seeing this positive trend year after year of growing our sales. I would say it's less defensive and more strategic. We've talked in the past about how we're hiring business development assets and targeting certain areas, like the Sun Belt regions, and also by industry group, data centers, and semiconductor. For us, I'll give you a proof point. Between semiconductors and data centers, if you combine those two micro groups, that's 7% of ABM's revenue right now. That's pretty significant, and it's a strategic initiative we set out a couple of years ago to accomplish. That's also a segment that's going to grow double digit. This has all been strategic, and clearly there are always defensive measures in sales pursuit, so I'm not going to say the $1.2 billion was all purely strategic. There was a nice balance, but the majority of it was strategic.
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David Silver47:11
Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then, this is a question you may have touched on anecdotally or partially already, but Scott, your company has been in business for a very long time, and you've been very careful to segment your business by end market. You've segmented aviation in different ways, for example, and other segments. I'm wondering, as a company, does it make sense to think about things more geographically now? Technology business in one part of the country might require a different strategy than another part. I'm thinking California versus Texas, or West Coast versus non-West Coast, based on your comments. You use the term episodic, but my sense is over the past few years, some of these trends haven't really changed much. As a company with a very clear national view, what role does a more discreet, more explicit geographic strategy make sense?
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Scott Salmirs48:36
Sure, that's a good question. We do have a geographic strategy. We segment by industry group and by end market, and we still feel that's absolutely the right way to do it. We pressure test all these assumptions every year strategically as a management team with our board of directors. We still firmly believe that aligning with the customer segment is the best way to go. Within those customer segments, though, we do have a geographic focus. Earlier I mentioned the Sun Belt. We look at certain growth zones in the places we operate and apportion business development assets based on those growth zones, as well as operational assets. I'd like for you to think about it as the industry groups and the segments are the overlay, and within that overlay, you have an approach that absolutely incorporates a geographic attitude.
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Operator49:43
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidian Company. Please proceed with your question.
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Mark Riddick49:52
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking all the questions. We've covered quite a bit already this morning. I wanted to touch a little bit on the expectation of reducing leverage by the end of the year back to three times or so. Maybe talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the acquisition pipeline currently, comfort levels, valuation levels if they've changed especially over the last few months, and how your appetite looks there.
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David50:24
Thanks, Mark. Definitely an appropriate question. As we said in Q1, we did anticipate our leverage to tick up over three times with the acquisition of WGN Star. Clearly, our near-term priority remains delevering, and we anticipate based on our cash flow strength in the back half to be able to get back down below three times by the end of the year. That doesn't mean we're walking away from other value creation opportunities and capital return. We're just sequencing it appropriately. From a leverage perspective, based on the strength of our sequential cash flows, we feel really solid. Scott, I'll let you comment on the M&A pipeline.
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Scott Salmirs51:03
Yeah, the M&A pipeline, we continue to monitor it. We think there are going to be some interesting opportunities in the back half of this year and in the first half of next year. That could coincide with our leverage going down below three. We very much care about getting integrations right, so we're still integrating WGN Star. The confluence of this could be positive from an M&A standpoint, again more towards the back half, maybe Q4 or dripping into fiscal Q1 for us. We're monitoring it and being very strategic about where we play.
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Mark Riddick51:50
That's helpful. And then just a quick follow-up. There wasn't much mentioned as far as any effects you've seen from the war or political disruptions. I was wondering if there were any areas where you've seen any influence from that, or how the pacing through the quarter and into Q3 might be impacted there, or if you've seen anything that's come from that. Thanks.
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Scott Salmirs52:22
Yeah, where we see a little hint of it right now is in the aviation sector, specifically on our international business. There's been pressure on the international sites in terms of volume. It hasn't been incredibly material yet, but as we said in the prepared comments, we're just watching it and staying on top of it. The one great thing about ABM is even in these cycles, we get through them pretty well because of our flexible labor model and the fact that the services we perform are largely not discretionary. In extreme times, we'll get some pressure, but we ride through it.
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Operator53:15
Thank you. Our final question this morning comes from the line of Kate Sullivan with Maxim Group. Please proceed with your question.
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Kate Sullivan53:23
Thank you. Thanks for the earlier comments on organic growth. That's one thing we're looking for, accelerating earnings growth from last fiscal year when it was at 3.8%. I think you cleared that up with BNI. And just one quick one, David, on the pre-cash flow guidance of $250 million. Can you go into what that excludes specifically and disclose some of the figures?
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David53:45
Yes, certainly. The items it excludes total roughly $65 million on an annual basis. Some remaining transformation costs, about $20 million. The anticipated earnout payment for the Ravenolt acquisition, the final one, which is roughly $30 million. And then some acquisition costs associated with the WGM Star acquisition, about $8 to $9 million, and just any other restructuring charges to fill out the gap. As I mentioned earlier, we still feel really good about where we are on cash flows. We're at about 40% of our pacing on a normalized basis, about $100 million out of the $250 million guide. You've been following the stock for a while, you know that the majority of the cash flow for ABM is tilted towards the second half of the year. So it puts us in a good position on cash flow for the year.
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Kate Sullivan54:43
Okay, thank you all.
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Scott Salmirs54:45
Thanks.
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Operator54:48
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Salmirs for any final comments.
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Scott Salmirs54:55
Sure, thank you. Thanks everybody for participating. Hopefully you can see how optimistic David and I are about where we're heading and what the back half is going to be. We'll look forward to seeing you in Q3, and have an amazing summer, everybody.
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Operator55:15
Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.