About Emanuel Chirico
Emanuel Chirico, former chairman and CEO of PVH, discussed the company's response to the coronavirus pandemic and social justice issues in a June 2020 CNBC interview. He described the U.S. as being "ripped apart by systemic racism" and said PVH needed to improve in recruiting, training, and representation at leadership levels, stating the company would set "meaningful targets" within three months. Chirico also addressed inventory challenges, noting that 2020 would be "a mess" and that the company aimed to manage cash and inventory to be competitive in 2021. He mentioned that PVH had $1.8 billion in liquidity but had implemented furloughs and salary reductions due to shareholder pain.
In earlier appearances, Chirico commented on trade policy and business performance. In December 2019, he said tariffs on apparel would result in higher costs for consumers and criticized the uncertainty of U.S.-China trade policy, noting that PVH had reduced its China sourcing for the U.S. from 35-40% to 10-15% over five years. In 2018, he described the business as the strongest he had seen in 25 years, with strong online growth and robust European performance. At a 2019 Concordia College event, Chirico said profitability was necessary for sustainability and that "made in America" was not practical for the apparel industry, arguing the U.S. should compete in high-tech robotics rather than labor-intensive garment production.
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Jim Cramer0:05
Okay, tough times being in power business. But it's always important to remember that not all companies are created equal. Some are a heck of a lot more equal than others. Take PVH Company behind Calvin Klein, Tommy Hilfiger brands. Major power player with an enormous international business. The drag was in 22% last year. PVH's cost of kind of slowdown is next to nothing 2017. But the company just reported after closing giving a solid four cent earnings beat off a buck 19 basis, higher than expected revenue, much of a 300 basis point increase in its gross margin. Extraordinary that's what makes it yours back to the cost of goods sold. Even better, PVH gave strong guidance for both the next quarter and the full year. Stock's up nicely in after hours. So let's check in with Manny Chirico, the chairman and CEO of PVH, to learn more about the quarter and this company's prospects. Manny, welcome back to 'Make Money.' We're gonna see minute. All right, Manny, outshot see in a sea of just reading Conrad peril makers higher gross Porsche, great forecast. We got department stores closing. Let's right, how are you ever pull off?
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Manny Chirico1:04
We had just a very strong business, particularly in Europe and in Asia, driven by our China business, but also our hotel businesses here in the United States. We had a very strong fourth quarter driven by our Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger business.
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Jim Cramer1:17
Okay, so in other words, your stuff's not being discounted like everybody else?
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Manny Chirico1:20
Look, it's a very highly promotional environment, particularly in North America, and we are planning North America very conservatively as we go into 2017. But we have just very strong momentum internationally behind that.
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Jim Cramer1:35
People have to recognize that you took a very big risk here. You put a lot of money buying these big brand names for overseas when everyone was saying, why the heck are you doing that? United States is the only place to be. It's paid off.
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Manny Chirico1:47
Yeah, absolutely. I think you need to be a global player. You need strong brands across the board. You need that scalability. And you want to have that diversity from a geographic point of view at the same time.
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Jim Cramer1:58
And you know, just as it's getting tough in the U.S., you talk about that the Congress needs to be bent on putting on a border tax as if somehow we will bring back manufacturing here and not hurt the retailers that buy your stuff.
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Manny Chirico2:10
Well, let me put it a couple of ways. I think competitively we're in a terrific place. We've got two strong brands, our price elasticity, and I touched on a geographic perspective. But from an industry point of view, from a retail point, it is a terrible idea. It's basically a $500 billion tax on the consumer. This will all come through as tax creating selling price increases to the consumer going forward. And the worst thing about it is it's being hidden in a charge on imports. The last thing we want here in the United States is to bring back apparel manufacturing to the United States. This is a low skill, high labor content business. Basically you could pay minimum wage. Why do we want to compete in that product category with the likes of Ethiopia, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Kenya? We want to compete in high-tech manufacturing, not low tech, low labor. The people who will be hurt are the mainstream working guys, maybe even people who voted for Trump. Look, I can't imagine President Trump in the White House would be supporting a border tax. I know it's been batted back and forth, but if you think about everything that he stands for and taking care of his constituent base, it just doesn't make sense at all. This is really a big tax on importers and retailers that support the retail sector. Retailers are the largest employer sector in the United States. The top 10 companies from an employment point of view in the U.S. private sector, six are retailers: Walmart, Target, Macy's, JC Penney's, Home Depot, Costco. I don't know why the value of a manufacturing job that pays $60,000 is more valuable than an assistant store manager making $75,000 at one of these key retailers. I couldn't be more passionate about how I think about this as a consumer and as an American tax base. I think this is just ill-founded.
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Jim Cramer4:18
Now I know not all of them can make it. I noticed you're getting a lot of your goods from Sears. They sell a ton of Hilfiger, a ton of Calvin Klein. They put a statement today saying there's substantial doubt about their ability to be a going concern. What are you doing about that?
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Manny Chirico4:35
Well, a couple of things. On a dot-com business, sometimes retailers that you don't sell to can have availability of product that gets diverted through the market. I can tell you that is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny business and it's not us doing it directly, it's going through third-party players. As for Sears, which in its heyday was a major player, today it has been wound down and is being planned very, very conservatively. It's just not a material player for us. We're not going to get hurt if something bad happens. We'll have to manage through a small hiccup, but we've got a plan for the balance of this year very, very conservatively.
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Jim Cramer5:14
One of the things I just came back from Europe. Manny, it's booming, and you're seeing it in both the independent department stores and in your standalone stores.
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Manny Chirico5:22
Absolutely. Our standalone stores for Calvin and Tommy Hilfiger for the fourth quarter and as we've gone into the first quarter are running high single-digit positive comps in that market. And even more importantly, our order book for fall for both brands. Tommy brand is up 10% on a really large base. Calvin Klein is up over 25% as that brand just grows. We're really seeing phenomenal growth throughout Europe, and it's across Europe from the UK, Germany, Southern Europe, Spain, and Italy. We're really seeing fantastic growth of both brands.
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Jim Cramer6:00
No wonder European stock markets people don't realize they're beating our stock markets because things are getting better over there. That's Manny Chirico, chairman and CEO of PVH, best of power retail store out there. They have minds back asleep. Right, Booya! Jim Cramer here for Manny. Thanks for watching. See you on YouTube. Click here to subscribe to get the jump on my scruples with CEOs plus market news, investing advice, and a lot more.