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Emanuel Chirico
Former Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, PVH CORP

PVH CEO: Second-half Turnaround | Mad Money | CNBC

🎥 May 31, 2019 📺 CNBC Television ⏱ 7m 👁 1057 views
Jim Cramer sits down with Calvin Klein-parent PVH off the holding company’s latest earnings call to discuss some its shortcomings in the quarter and its plan to bounce back later this year. » Subscribe to CNBC: http://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC » Watch more Mad Money here: http://bit.ly/WatchMadMoney » Read more about PVH: https://cnb.cx/2QwUhl1 "Mad Money" takes viewers inside the mind of one of Wall Street's most respected and successful money managers. Jim Cramer is your personal guide through the confusing jungle of Wall Street investing, navigating through both opportunities and pitfalls with...
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About Emanuel Chirico

Emanuel Chirico, former chairman and CEO of PVH, discussed the company's response to the coronavirus pandemic and social justice issues in a June 2020 CNBC interview. He described the U.S. as being "ripped apart by systemic racism" and said PVH needed to improve in recruiting, training, and representation at leadership levels, stating the company would set "meaningful targets" within three months. Chirico also addressed inventory challenges, noting that 2020 would be "a mess" and that the company aimed to manage cash and inventory to be competitive in 2021. He mentioned that PVH had $1.8 billion in liquidity but had implemented furloughs and salary reductions due to shareholder pain. In earlier appearances, Chirico commented on trade policy and business performance. In December 2019, he said tariffs on apparel would result in higher costs for consumers and criticized the uncertainty of U.S.-China trade policy, noting that PVH had reduced its China sourcing for the U.S. from 35-40% to 10-15% over five years. In 2018, he described the business as the strongest he had seen in 25 years, with strong online growth and robust European performance. At a 2019 Concordia College event, Chirico said profitability was necessary for sustainability and that "made in America" was not practical for the apparel industry, arguing the U.S. should compete in high-tech robotics rather than labor-intensive garment production.

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Transcript (15 segments)
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Jim Cramer0:00
A tough day for the stock of apparel maker PVH, and an even tougher night as the company reported a good quarter but, thank you, some surprisingly downbeat guidance. A forecast cut that has Wall Street puzzled. What's happening at this normally consistent company's business? It's got tremendous brands: Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger. The stock is down badly in after-hours, but we know that Manny Chirico, the Chairman and CEO of PVH, comes on in good times and in bad times to tell it to us straight. Manny, welcome back to Mad Money. You came here three months ago and the numbers were fabulous. This last quarter was pretty good, but you've come in with a pretty dramatically pessimistic outlook for China and for here. That kind of unfortunately captures the zeitgeist of what I see in the stock market. What's happened?
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Emanuel Chirico0:55
Yeah, look, in this market in particular, for the business right in front of us, the second quarter, we've really seen some softness in the business, particularly as the first quarter ended and the second quarter started. I think that's reflected in our numbers and our guidance as we've gone forward. The positive things from our perspective is we've more or less been able to hold our guidance in place for the year, and we're looking for the second half of the year to start to see a bit of a turnaround. We're up against much easier comparisons as we get into July and beyond, the second half of the year, and I think we're positioned to capture that as we go forward.
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Jim Cramer1:31
When I think about China and the weakest United States, I just keep thinking it is the headlines, it is the trade war, because it's not like places have dropped dramatically and the consumers stop in their tracks.
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Emanuel Chirico1:42
Well, particularly in our areas, the discussion around tariffs and the trade dispute hasn't hit us at this point yet, so that's not the issue that we're seeing going forward. What we're really just seeing is a slowdown in growth, a slowdown in retail sales in general as we're looking at it. Big impact here in the US is lack of international tourism and tourism purchases. The strong dollar continues. Currencies from when I was here three months ago are down three to six percent, so we're really feeling it there.
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Jim Cramer2:17
Tommy Hilfiger is down. For me, people looking for much better than that.
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Emanuel Chirico2:20
Oh, it's a great brand. It hasn't led you astray for a very long time.
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Jim Cramer2:23
That's true, that's true.
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Emanuel Chirico2:26
Down for here in North America. Overall, the Tommy brand grew on a constant currency basis about five percent, so nine percent, excuse me, four percent reported basis. So the business internationally continues to do positively, but comps in the United States... Look, I can't walk away from the comps here in the United States. In the outlet channel of distribution, where we have a big position, it's really under pressure. You're talking about a Macy's, you're talking about a JCPenney. These are companies that did not report good numbers. Is their inventory kicking around now? Is that what's going to happen? Is it going to go to TJX? Is it out there? So right now, I would say inventories are in relatively good shape. If things start to back up, we've really seen the retailers react to that, and we've reacted and really put it in our numbers. We took our sales down in the second half in connection with a real concern about the business going forward, but have been able to hold our profits together so far as we've come here. So we're looking for the business as we start to anniversary some tougher comps next year. The comps get somewhat easier as we get into the second half of the year, and that's what we're pointing to at this point right now. As we've come out of the first quarter into the second quarter, the retail backdrop here in the states is pretty challenging. That includes e-commerce, includes Amazon. Our growth continues very strong digitally. That business continues to grow 20% for us, our owned and operated and our partner sites that we do, macys.com, amazon.com. That business is up 20%. I think the strength of our brands really plays well there, but we are at a moment where brick-and-mortar retail, with the trade disputes, the rhetoric around trade tensions, really is impacting consumer spending.
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Jim Cramer4:31
Maybe you and I have been around for a long time. A 3.6% employment rate means that people are buying Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger. That's what they buy. It's not making sense to me, Manny.
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Emanuel Chirico4:44
Well, I think we're all struggling with that. When you look at the consumer and you look at wages and you look at just the general environment, you would feel much stronger. I think you have to put some things in perspective. This time last year, coming off of the tax cuts, the momentum that was there... This time last year, clearly our first four or five months of last year, our comp sales were up 11%. I mean, Tommy up high single digits and Calvin. So you're seeing now a retrenchment off of that. There was tremendous momentum. They came out of that first quarter and we knew we'd be up against that. We tried to put that into the numbers, and we delivered the earnings and in our sales estimates for the first quarter. But as we look at the second quarter, we felt we really had a pullback there, and still have been able to hold it together, but it's in a much more challenging environment. Look, there's no walking away from the fact that the consumer is feeling more pressure here and in China, and you can't walk away from the fact that the trade disputes and the issues are creating a bit of a hangover with the consumer.
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Jim Cramer5:50
I want to leave it on that because you got Stefan on as president. It's a great hire. He's doing fine. He has been all his career. He's going to be amazing. He's going to be your right-hand man. Who doesn't want to take over? Do you want to give him the company? What's going to happen? Who's that? Pretty, he's a talented fashion person.
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Emanuel Chirico6:07
So look, I think our board, myself, succession planning is a key issue for all companies. That's actually... I just signed a new five-year contract. I'm here for the next as CEO for the next three to four years. But I think we've put a plan in place where people can feel comfortable that we have a strategy in place, we have a management succession plan. You know, this will be my 15th year as President and CEO of PVH, and as you get older, people start to ask questions: how much longer are you going to do it? So I think this... I mean, that's just kidding.
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Jim Cramer6:42
Next time you see each other, that's something. The cloud lifts because you're doing such a great job, and Stefan's a great hire, and the stuff looks fantastic. It doesn't seem to matter right now.
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Emanuel Chirico6:53
I think in fairness, you can't fight the tape. I think the general sense is the consumer is under pressure. Retail is going to be under pressure for a while. I think we're best positioned to capture the growth and the market share that will come out of that, given our balance sheet strength and the way we've managed the business. If past is prologue, we have to just get through this.
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Jim Cramer7:14
Fantastic. We got to get through it. That's a good motto for me to adopt with the stock market too. That's Manny Chirico, Chairman and CEO of PVH. That's Mad Money. I'm Jim Cramer. See you on YouTube. Click here to subscribe and get the jump on my exclusives with CEOs, plus monkey news, investigative vice, and a whole lot more.