About John Sculley
John Sculley, the former CEO of Apple and Pepsi, currently serves as Vice Chairman of RxAdvance, a healthcare technology company. In recent interviews and public appearances, Sculley has focused on the potential for technology to reduce inefficiencies in the U.S. healthcare system. He has stated that McKinsey Global Institute estimates there is $900 billion in "fraud, waste, abuse, misuse, and avoidable costs" within the $3.6 trillion industry. Sculley has described RxAdvance as a "cloud platform" and "smart process automation" company that aims to address these issues, particularly in pharmacy benefit management (PBM), which he has characterized as an opaque industry. He has noted that RxAdvance processed $10 billion in contracted revenue and has partnered with health insurer Centene.
Sculley has also commented on the broader technology industry, including Apple's and Google's moves into health. He has described Apple's health data push as a "good first step" and stated that he agrees with Tim Cook's perspective that health innovation could be Apple's greatest contribution. Reflecting on his past, Sculley has discussed the "Pepsi Challenge" marketing campaign, describing it as a strategy based on the idea that "perception leads reality." He has also addressed his time at Apple, stating that he was recruited by Steve Jobs to be his partner and that the board asked Jobs to step down from running the Macintosh group, but that Jobs was "never fired."
Source: AI-verified profile updated from John Sculley's recent appearances.
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Interviewer0:00
He has such a wide range of customers. How can you serve the needs of everyone with one technology?
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David0:05
Well, we're a platform company, so we're able to leverage that capability with 350 million profile names, and we have a repeatable model. Last year, we grew over 70% top line. We're very profitable, we have about 700 people, and this is a company that is at the stage of rapid scaling.
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Interviewer0:34
How are you going to be able to stand out in the world of ad tech? I mean, there are so many other companies with great data scientists, and the march of advertising innovation continues forward.
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David0:45
We're a data and analytics company, not an ad tech company. I think the big difference between us and a lot of the companies we compete with is that we can be with a few small guys like IBM or Salesforce. We focus on the entire customer lifecycle versus just focusing on CRM, which is what most of our competitors do. So we help very large enterprises combine their CRM data into our marketing cloud and build an analytical breakdown of who their best customers are, and then we go help them find them at dramatic cost savings compared to where they would otherwise invest to create customers. Whereas most companies just focus on that CRM component, we do acquisition, CRM, and monetization of customers for large enterprises.
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Interviewer1:34
So John, you worked at advertising powerhouses Pepsi and Apple, and I think about the Pepsi taste challenge, Apple's 1984 ad, and I wonder: with big data, everything is becoming more and more targeted because you have more and more information about consumers. How does that impact creativity in advertising? Would a shocking campaign like 1984 still be possible today?
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John Sculley2:00
I don't think it would be the place you'd want to put your best talent. Those campaigns were designed in a different era, when everything was about experience marketing and you had a lot of audience and a lot of time. 60 seconds was a long time. We don't have that anymore. We have people who only give us maybe 10 seconds of attention, so we're in the attention economy, and you have to look at the way that people see media. Today, they'll more likely see it on their mobile device. So a campaign like we did back in 1984 or even the Pepsi challenge before that just wouldn't be the kind of campaign that I would be leading in this era. It would be much more focused on using data analytics.
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Interviewer2:40
But so much of advertising is going to video. I mean, creativity actually becomes even more important as we move from banner ads to video advertising, as you also have to make sure that the people who are seeing the video were the ones most apt to want to buy the product and want to view the video.
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John Sculley3:02
Creativity is always going to be an important component of marketing. We fully believe that. But we believe that spending to reach a massive audience when you could get much more focused and much tighter and get to the people who are not just have the highest aptitude to purchase your product, but the highest aptitude to replicate your best customers, so you're adding your highest revenue, highest value customers by targeting down that marketing and that creative.
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Interviewer3:34
I think that's exactly right. I think that what we're seeing today is that we can use predictive analytics to know a lot about the people that we're targeting, as David pointed out, and we have a very short attention span with customers today, so we want to be able to focus on things you think they're going to be most interested in.
