About William Hornbuckle
William Hornbuckle, president and CEO of MGM Resorts, has been active in discussing the company's financial performance and strategic outlook during recent earnings calls. He stated that MGM Resorts delivered consolidated net revenue growth in the first quarter of 2026, driven by strength in digital and China, and noted that Las Vegas net revenue grew year-over-year for the first time in over a year. Hornbuckle described the Las Vegas market as "resilient" and said the company sees signs of stabilization and an improving trajectory, though he added that growth must be "tempered modestly" given what he called "a crazy world out there right now." He also mentioned that MGM is involved with the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority to help attract larger events and corporations to the market.
Hornbuckle has also addressed several major development and investment initiatives. He said MGM is "actively engaged in discussions" regarding a potential NBA expansion team in Las Vegas, and noted that the city has been named a target market for the league. He highlighted the groundbreaking of a new MLB stadium and the upcoming Super Bowl at Allegiant Stadium in 2029, as well as the College Football Playoff National Championship in 2027 and the Final Four in 2028. Regarding MGM Osaka, Hornbuckle said the project remains on time and on budget for a 2030 opening, and that he recently approved mockup rooms. He also discussed the company's capital discipline, citing the sale of Northfield Park for $546 million and the decision to withdraw its application for a commercial license in Yonkers, New York.
Source: AI-verified profile updated from William Hornbuckle's recent appearances.
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Operator0:01
Good afternoon and welcome to the MGM Resorts International first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining the call from the company today are Bill Hornbuckle, chief executive officer and president, Aisha Molino, chief operating officer, Jonathan Hulkyard, chief financial officer, Gary Fritz, chief commercial officer and president of MGM Digital, Kenneth Fang, chief executive officer of MGM China Holdings, and Howard Wong, vice president investor relations. Participants are in listen-only mode. After the company's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. In fairness to all participants, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Please note, this conference is being recorded. Now, I'd like to turn the conference over to Howard Wong.
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Howard Wong0:54
Thank you, Roco. Welcome to the MGM Resorts International first quarter 2026 earnings call. This call is being broadcast live on the internet at investors.mgmorts.com, and we have also furnished our press release on form 8K to the SEC. On this call, we will make forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in these statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from these forward-looking statements is contained in today's press release and in our periodic filings with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or otherwise. During the call, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures when talking about our performance. You can find the reconciliation to GAAP financial measures in our press release and investor presentation which are available on our website. Finally, this presentation is being recorded. I'll now turn it over to Bill Hornbuckle.
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William Hornbuckle1:55
Thank you, Howard, and thanks again to all of our employees. Their continued dedication and execution drove another gold-plus MPS record-breaking quarter, reinforcing the strength and sustainability of our business and our ability to deliver unique and lasting experiences that people find incredibly exciting. MGM Resorts once again delivered consolidated net revenue growth in the first quarter, driven by strengths in digital and China. Net revenue for Las Vegas in Q1 grew on a year-over-year basis for the first time in over a year despite an exceptionally strong leisure comparative. We achieved this with solid group and convention business in the first quarter and we expect this to carry into the second quarter. The first quarter is typically our seasonally strong group and convention quarter of the year and we experienced robust business related to both city-wide conventions like CES and KAG as well as in-house programs at Mandalay and MGM Grand. We achieved record 1Q convention ADRs and catering banquet revenue and drove increased production from our strategic relationship with Marriott. Importantly, we expect this momentum to continue in the second quarter with convention room night mix up two percentage points year-over-year to 20%. As the city evolves, we're making sure we are leaders in innovation. The MGM gaming streaming lounge, which opened at Park MGM and received all regulatory approvals during the quarter, is another exciting step. We developed a premium creator environment where gaming stories can come to life with plans to integrate celebrities into both the content and the broader guest experience. Another theme in our Las Vegas business has been our value. MGM has always offered opportunities for our guests seeking value experiences. This quarter, we challenged ourselves to be even more creative and launch an all-inclusive experience that bundles hotel, dining, entertainment, and all parking and resort fees. Guests can now choose to stay at Luxor or Excalibur with access to a wide range of dining options across five MGM properties. The feedback we're getting from guests is very positive and roughly one-third of the bookings are from first-time Las Vegas visitors. The program enhances our ability to convey our value proposition in innovative ways that resonate with our guests. Ultimately, Las Vegas's true value lies in delivering iconic one-of-a-kind experiences. We look forward to welcoming the Super Bowl back at Allegiant Stadium in 2029, particularly given our proximity to the venue, which drove outsized benefits during the 24 Super Bowl. In the near term, Allegiant will host the College Football Playoff National Championship in 2027 and the Final Four in 2028. That same year, the A's are set to begin their inaugural season in Las Vegas. During the quarter, Las Vegas has also been named a target city for an NBA expansion team, and we are actively engaged in discussions with the league and respective team owners. If successful, no US city will have assembled all four major professional sports leagues faster than Las Vegas. The ability to attract professional sports franchises and tentpole events exemplifies Las Vegas's structural resilience. The city consistently advances through challenging operating environments by evolving alongside customer demand. Today's consumers are decisively gravitating towards live events and experiential travel in Las Vegas, and MGM is capturing that momentum. Las Vegas's ability to adapt its mix, its pricing, and entertainment continues to differentiate the market and reinforce its resilience through economic cycles. Our regional operations have maintained steady market share. Strong casino volumes supported solid results for the quarter, reflecting the premium positioning of these properties and their ability to drive consistent reliable performance. At MGM China, we grew net revenues by 9% while segment adjusted EBITDAR was impacted by our new brand fee. Jonathan will remind you of those details in his section. Our market share for the quarter was 15.4%, and while February was negatively impacted by hold, we concluded the quarter in the month of March with a share of 17.3 which has held steady into April. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages and premium mass to support future growth, and the suite conversion and renovated premium gaming areas at MGM Cotai were recently completed ahead of the upcoming Golden Week holiday. The next capital projects will involve renovating the suite product in Macau as we want to ensure our offerings stay fresh and ahead of market growth. While we will continue with targeted capital spending, we believe our operating expenses are appropriately sized and scaled to match our growth profile and our margins are sustainable. At BetMGM North America venture, Adam and Gary reported first quarter results a few weeks ago. We continue to prioritize the iGaming segment where underlying fundamentals are healthy and growing and we are approaching two billion in annual revenue from operators. We are moderating spend in sports to focus on returns while our online sports business also continues to grow and we remain focused on driving profitable growth and margin. Our core strengths remain unchanged: iGaming, multi-product states, omni-channel presence in Nevada, and a focus on premium mass sports players. We remain disciplined and focused on executing our strategy in areas where we have a competitive advantage. MGM Digital reported another quarter of double-digit revenue growth as it continues to make progress towards profitability. Sweden and the UK continue to drive our LeoVegas B2B and B2C business where the top line grew over 30%. These are also the next two stops for our sportsbook integration, further validation of our acquisition of Tipico's US sportsbook technology. We're continuing to invest in Brazil and plan to leverage our global marketing assets and in-house sportsbook capabilities on the significant World Cup opportunity later this year. And in Japan, over 40% of the foundation piles have been installed or completed. The first concrete floor has been poured and the first structural steel has been erected. I recently visited the site and approved our mockup rooms which I found exceptional, and we are as opportunistic as ever, keeping in mind we expect to be the sole licensee and operator in Japan upon opening. The population and visitation metrics are massive as we've discussed. Japan has over 120 million residents and hosts over 40 million international visitors annually. MGM Osaka remains on time and on budget for 2030 opening. With the first quarter of 2026 complete, our optimism across all various business segments continues to hold firm, especially in Las Vegas, which will remain on track for growth this year. With that, I'll now hand it over to Jonathan to provide additional details on performance this quarter.
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Jonathan Hulkyard8:54
Thanks, Bill. And I'll certainly join you in thanking all of our employees for their continued hard work and dedication this quarter. We really value your daily contributions and appreciate everything you do to support our company and our guests. In Las Vegas, as Bill mentioned, we were able to grow net revenues despite the strong leisure comparison in the prior year. Segment adjusted EBITDAR decreased by $62 million, which can be explained by just two items: an increase in self-insurance expense of $30 million and $37 million, and a decrease in business interruption proceeds of $31 million versus last year. Now that we're into the second quarter, comparisons in our leisure offerings should become more normalized, especially toward the latter part of the period. We're encouraged by the incremental momentum driven by our all-inclusive program as well as the convention strength we have on the books. Our regional operations proved resilient in the first quarter, exhibiting topline growth of 2%, and similar to the Las Vegas story, segment adjusted EBITDAR decreased by $20 million, in part due to an increase in self-insurance expense of $9 million and a decrease in business interruption proceeds of $10 million versus last year. Borgata and National Harbor also faced some weather-related disruptions, but we ended March on a very solid footing and those trends continued into April. We closed on the sale of the Northfield Park operations earlier this month. So, just a reminder for your models, Northfield Park will no longer be in our regional operations going forward. As usual though, we'll provide same-store results for easy comparisons. Before diving further into our other business segments, I do want to briefly address an external factor that continues to pressure operating costs across our industry and drove a meaningful portion of the increase in our self-insurance expenses this quarter. And that's the growing prevalence of frivolous litigation often backed by large pools of capital, including private equity. As we noted earlier, we were negatively impacted by $37 million in Las Vegas and $9 million across our regional operations this quarter. While we support a fair and balanced legal system, claims that lack merit divert capital, management attention, and resources away from investments that benefit employees, guests, and our communities. We're focused on what we can control, which is enforcing high standards in process and the other operational elements of our business with the utmost care. Now let's move on to MGM China, which exhibited solid performance in the first quarter. The decrease in segment adjusted EBITDAR of $13 million was primarily driven by the new branding fee agreement through which we received $23 million more in fees than in the prior year period. As a reminder, the brand fee increased from 1.75% to 3.5% of revenue starting this year. While this impacts segment adjusted EBITDAR, it results in higher cash flow for MGM Resorts. Moving to digital, our BetMGM North America venture's first quarter results reflected continued successful execution of a refined player management strategy, delivering 6% growth in net revenue from operations and 11% growth in adjusted EBITDAR. This was also the first quarter where we earned branding fees from BetMGM, which amounted to about $1.5 million. Separately, no quarterly distributions were made in the first quarter given the seasonality of cash outlays, which included marketing investments around NFL postseason and March Madness as well as accrued annual compensation payouts. MGM Digital drove growth in net revenues of 43% in the first quarter and reported segment adjusted EBITDAR losses of $26 million. We are continuing to migrate our sportsbooks to our in-house platform such as BetMGM Sweden and are investing in the opportunities presented by the upcoming World Cup in both Europe and Brazil. Specific to Brazil, we continue to have confidence in the total addressable market and we may drive investment beyond our original guidance, reflecting regulatory and tax developments as well as competitive intensity as we pursue our long-term share objectives. And we'll keep you posted as the year progresses. In Japan, we are expecting our funding for the balance of the year to be approximately $200 to $225 million after investing approximately $140 million in the first quarter. Much of it will be addressed with proceeds from the yen-denominated credit facility we closed last October. So, in essence, it's prefunded for this year. During the quarter, we bought back about two and a half million shares for $90 million. Over the last five years, we've decreased our share count by almost 50%. As a reminder, and I can't help myself, we sold Northfield Park for 6.6 times trailing EBITDA. That's a multiple significantly higher than what is implied by our current share price. With the transaction now closed and the proceeds received, we have increased flexibility to redeploy capital, including reaccelerating share repurchases at our current valuation levels. I'll turn it back to Bill.
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William Hornbuckle14:32
Thanks, Jonathan. Before we go to questions, maybe I'd like to reiterate just a couple things that were said. Obviously, our diversification strategy is proving successful. Consolidated revenues again showed growth over 4%. Vegas, for the first time in six quarters, also showed growth at the top line. And as I think about the balance of the year, our group and convention business looks strong. Obviously, we have the benefit now of the MGM rooms for the entire year. We have easier leisure comparatives coming up. And the high-end continues to demonstrate itself not only in gaming, but in non-gaming spend. Event-driven to be sure and live entertainment to be sure, but absolutely shows up and shows up often. And regionally, despite headwinds and the ones that were mentioned in the overall economy, we've seen a solid performance and we expect to continue to see through the balance of the summer. MGM Macau continues to hold on to a major market share. We're very proud of what's been created and what they're doing there. And we do believe costs and our margins are sustainable now throughout the year. And Japan is off to a great start, albeit early, but we're excited by our progress, we're excited by the design, and ultimately the market that it will provide. And then BetMGM continues to track itself along and you've seen additional and tremendous growth in Gary's overall digital business for rest of world. So with that, Howard, I will turn it open to questions.
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Operator16:04
All right, thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the queue, please press star then one. And to remove yourself from queue, please press star then two. As a reminder, in all fairness, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Today's first question comes from Dats at Jeff. Please go ahead.
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Analyst16:26
Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my question. A lot of information here and I took note of the all-inclusive offerings that you decided to introduce earlier in the quarter. Can you just talk about what kind of response you're getting to that? Is that a strategy that we could see you deploy in other properties or other areas of the portfolio? Thanks.
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Aisha Molino16:59
Sure, David. This is Aisha Molino. We've been really pleased with the response to the all-inclusive package. We've seen really steady momentum since we first deployed that, and the customer response has been very good. As Bill noted in his remarks, we're also seeing a significant portion of those customers as net new customers, which we believe is a positive trend line. We're going to continue to evaluate it, understand customer response, understand whether there are new strategies we could deploy alongside it, and whether it needs to be scaled or should be scaled to other properties. So, we're going to continue to watch, continue to refine over time, but we have been pleased with the reaction to date.
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Analyst17:38
Understood. And if I can just as my follow-up, talk briefly about Macau. Having been over there, the operations and the commentary seem relatively stable, but it's always been a market that tends to have surprises around every corner now and again. How are you looking out at the rest of the year in general terms or qualitative terms, and how do you feel about how that market rolls through the rest of this year? And that's it for me.
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William Hornbuckle18:09
Yeah, thank you, David. I'll kick it off and then Kenny, turn it over to you. Look, I think we feel really good about the balance of the year. We brought on many things last year in terms of capital enhancements and just the overall product, and we're excited by that. We've got some more to go. So, we're adding some more suites which will be beneficial because I think everybody understands we're still undersuited and that'll be beneficial. It's always difficult to say Macau is quote stable, but I feel good about it. I feel very good about our market position and what we're doing and how we're doing it. And so, Kenny, I don't know if you wanted some more color there.
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Kenneth Fang18:46
Oh, thank you. Thank you, David. This is Kenny from Macau. As we all know, Macau has always been competitive from day one. The Macau market is a premium-driven one. It's not simply about supply. It's not like a purely quantity play. It's more about the quality. So it's about understanding to serve the purpose of the target guests. Here at MGM China, first, we are very focused on the products and services. We want to make sure they are meaningful, effective, and targeted to the premium customers. As Bill just mentioned, we opened suites at MGM Cotai side. You never saw such products in greater China area. They are unique, they are different, they are refreshing, they are cozy. And we opened nearly a week ago. All customers love it. And also we just opened about 40,000 square feet of premium gaming space at the Cotai area. We have about 40 tables and 15 private rooms. It's also new. The design, the construction, the services there, I can see a lot of customers are there playing even right now. Secondly, it's the products and we will continue to refresh our products. For example, we are in the designing stage about 100 suites at the Macau side, and also some gaming spaces and F&B outlets. We want to spend money wisely to really reflect the purpose to serve the purpose of the customers why they are in Macau. It's not a typical hospitality product or resort product. They are serving their targeted premium guests, premium gaming customers. Secondly, I want to say MGM has developed a pretty unique corporate culture here that encourages from the senior management, from myself to all other senior management members or team members, to react fast effectively to make changes in developing products and services which can evolve with fast-changing customers. So actually, reinvestment, CapEx, products, services, we are all in one package. It is a package about how we take care of the customers. I think that's the key for us to continue to grow for the rest of this year and next year. Thanks.
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Analyst22:00
Thank you very much.
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Operator22:03
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Dan Pollitzer with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
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Analyst22:09
Hey, good afternoon everyone and thanks for the question. Bill or Jonathan, whoever wants to take it. I was hoping to talk a little bit about the Strip and the health of the customer base there. It seems like you're talking about this evolving health. Can you maybe talk about how the first quarter kind of progressed and how you saw that resonate in your customer base, and then the expectations for how the second quarter should evolve given your competitor last night had some comments on April.
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William Hornbuckle22:37
Yeah, I'll start it, John. I think we'll kick it off. Look, we had interestingly in the quarter, we had an amazing January last year. So, we had a tough kickoff and mostly in gaming. But as the quarter progressed and obviously I think you heard yesterday, you heard from us, KAG was tremendous, and so as the quarter progressed, each month got successively better. March being obviously for us the best month yet. The market's changed, consumer has changed. And we're very, obviously we're focused on, luckily for us, we have a lot of luxury product and brands that can cater to that. And it's going to continue. Despite many headwinds, whether they be air, gas, etc., we have yet to see a slowdown. That doesn't mean over summer that can't happen because booking cycles still remain short. But I feel resilient about it. We feel good about it. We look at air traffic coming into the community. Half of the traffic that was lost when Spirit went bankrupt has been picked up. We see a couple additional international flights coming into the market. It's a little early to tell what gas will mean to all of it, but to date we feel good about it. Our April is fine. We just had a very successful Baccarat tournament come through here last weekend. May will be a good month and so we like the second quarter, but it's early. It's just the end of April and so time to tell on these short-term bookings and where leisure will ultimately go.
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Analyst24:18
Got it. Thanks. And then just on that self-insurance $37 million, I think that you guys had a $13 million charge last year maybe in the third quarter for this. So is this something just to think about more commonly that this could be impacting results, and bearing in mind it does sound one-time in nature, just any better clarity or way to think about that going forward.
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Jonathan Hulkyard24:40
Yeah, sure, Dan. Jonathan here. We certainly hope not. This is something that we look at historically once a year. We, of course, expense amounts every month, but we do a bit of a true-up once a year after that experience. And you remember it correctly. We decided to do it twice this year, and the impact of that examination is this additional approval that we took across our businesses in the first quarter. So we of course expect that that's adequate now, but on the other hand, it has been an increasing cost in our business, which is the reason I wanted to call it out. Clearly, but for that charge, our results this quarter would have been, I think we'd all agree, even much better on an operating basis. But we certainly hope that that's not going to be anything that recurs. And in fact, it is an unusual one-time item.
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Analyst25:46
Got it. Thanks so much.
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Operator25:50
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Steve Wisinski with Steve. Please go ahead.
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Analyst25:57
Yeah. Hey guys, good afternoon. So, Bill, want to stay with Vegas here for a little bit. You obviously noted you feel better about that value customer. It seems like the customer base is now somewhat stable. So, I guess the question is, based on what you're seeing right now from a forward demand perspective coupled with that healthy group and convention business, do you think it's going to be possible to grow Vegas this year? I mean, you obviously kind of talked about the second quarter and you feel pretty good there, but the first quarter obviously didn't put you guys off to the best start. Thanks.
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William Hornbuckle26:30
Yeah, thank you, Steve, for the question. Look, the one comment you did make, I want to be clear about the leisure customer at the lower end of the spectrum. So for us, obviously it's luxury caliber midweek is
Still a challenge. Now the good news is, it's like those two properties represent about 6% of our overall EBIDA on the weekends we are fine. The balance of the portfolio is performing from fine to good. And to answer the core question, we do see growth through the balance of the year. It's got to be tempered modestly, and it's got to be tempered with, you know, it's a crazy world out there right now, but based on what we see, particularly in advanced bookings, etc., we still remain optimistic that we will have growth by year end.
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Analyst27:15
Okay, gotcha. Thanks for that, Bill. And then, second question: we heard last night from Caesars, and obviously you probably listened to that call, that they've been starting to work a little bit more aggressively with the LVCBA to help find and identify bigger events or corporations to bring into the Vegas market. And wondering if you could expand on that a little bit more and help us understand if you're involved with that process and what the potential upside could eventually be there.
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William Hornbuckle27:44
Well, at 40,000 feet, yes, we're involved. Gary Fritz, who's sitting next to me, is on the board. So we have been and will continue to be active. Look, I think you know this about our business: remembering we have over 4 million square feet of our own convention group space. We're big into tech; that sector continues to grow and is looking exciting. We've got some really good groups lined up for the summer. We got Google coming back, and a few others. Cisco is coming in with a massive group this summer. So the question becomes, because KAG rotates, are there other groups in the world like KAG? And the answer is yes, there are. And yes, we have been cooperative and we'll go on with them from time to time, field trips to go pursue some of this stuff. I think you heard yesterday, it is true that some of it's, quote unquote, political in that these groups mean a lot for each one of these communities that they're currently in, whether it's San Francisco or Dallas, you pick the community. And so they're not as easy just to pick up by some value proposition; there's generally more to it than that. But no, we are active. We completely agree with the sentiment that was laid out yesterday, and we'll continue to pursue it.
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Analyst28:57
Okay, great. Thanks, Bill. Appreciate it.
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Operator29:01
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Brent Monthour with Berkeleys. Please go ahead.
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Analyst29:06
Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to key off that earlier question about the all-inclusive effort and encouraging commentary around first-time visitors to Las Vegas. You guys obviously have decades of data in terms of first-time visitors to Las Vegas. Maybe you could open the hood and share some metrics on what a typical first-time Vegas visitor behaves like, what the retention is like for a second trip, what you can assume for flow-through and profitability for that guest versus the corporate average.
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William Hornbuckle29:48
I think the core thing to remember about first-time visitors is, I can remember in Las Vegas where the visitor profile would indicate that 20% of the visitors were first-time, and I think over recent years that number has been in the mid to low teens. It dropped below eight, it dropped to eight or nine percent last year. I think all the noise around Canada, which is a place many of them came from, is real. Our general Canadian business is down 30% to 40%. Obviously, we hope to improve that. We've had a couple missions up into Canada, both through the convention center and ourselves to help that. I think we have one planned later this summer that I'm actually going on. In terms of behavior, international has always been a big play there. Mexico opened up a few years ago meaningfully with air traffic. And it's interesting: the majority of first-time visitors actually come through conventions, and they come because they have to or they're told to, and then they learn about this place and they go, 'This looks interesting and fun, I want to come back.' So they come back with family, friends, etc. I think the only real differentiator for now is that internationally is hurting that number. To see it grow again through this package has been great, because it's important obviously for the future growth of Las Vegas as we continue down the road here. I know Aisha, if you want to add anything...
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Aisha Molino31:10
No, I mean in terms of customer behavior, we certainly are seeing the customers engaging in all aspects of the business, and we've been pleased to see that response. Generally, in terms of what we're seeing from a flow-through perspective, we're happy with the results, so no concerns there either.
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Analyst31:32
Great, thanks for that. A second question would be a follow-up on Macau. Looking at the first quarter, obviously we're in a new structure with the management fee change, and those margins on that basis were below what you've talked about on this call in the past under the new structure. Considering the comment you made about March's exit rate for market share being a little bit better than you did in the first quarter, how should we think about target margins for that segment under this new structure?
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Jonathan Hulkyard32:09
Yeah, it's Jonathan, and I certainly invite Kenny to comment as well. But even with this new structure, I mean the property first of all before the branding fee, we expect to be able to continue in the mid to even high 20s in terms of its property-level margin. And then reducing their EBITDA by the amount of the new fee would get you to the kind of the new going-forward margin. But I think we feel that that's safely in the mid-20s.
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Analyst32:46
Perfect, thanks everyone.
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Operator32:50
Thank you, and our next question today comes from Don Decree at CBRE. Please go ahead.
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Analyst32:57
Hi everyone, I wanted to ask a question or two about the digital business. Revenue growth in the quarter was really strong, a little bit more than we thought. Is that a comparison to the heavy marketing in Brazil last year, or was there something else in terms of revenue uplift? And then I'll just throw my follow-up in there: how do we think about the timeline to profitability in that MGM digital business from here?
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Jonathan Hulkyard33:26
Hi Gary, thanks for the question. The real growth engine on the top line of the digital business has actually been the LeoVegas business-to-consumer business. So most of that concentrated in Europe, with particular emphasis markets in the UK and Sweden. We've also had a lot of success launching the business in the Netherlands and expanding it there. Brazil helps obviously because it comps against very little revenue. But the core LeoVegas business-to-consumer business, as I believe noted in the prepared remarks, is growing north of 30% year-over-year. So it's not all down to Brazil. In terms of the path to profitability, I believe we've indicated in the past that we would see the loss this year for the digital segment relative to last year. We might see a little bit more investment this year than that, given some of the regulatory changes and tax changes in Brazil. But we're definitely anticipating the loss to materially narrow versus last year, which then sets us up into '27 for close to a break-even year, if not 100% getting there.
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Analyst34:52
Great. Thanks Gary. I appreciate it.
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Operator34:57
Thank you. Our next question today comes from Sean Kelly at Bank of America. Please go ahead.
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Analyst35:04
Hi, good evening everybody. Thanks for taking my question. For whoever wants to take it: Bill, I think you mentioned a bit earlier that you were still seeing a bit of midweek softness, but you had called out a pretty large dynamic between your high and low properties. Can you update us on the trend line you're seeing there right now? Obviously, the all-inclusive side or offer should help maybe narrow that gap as we get towards the summer. But in terms of what you're seeing right now in trying to put into context the RevPAR performance for the company relative to some of the market numbers we saw, which I think would have bridged a bit higher.
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William Hornbuckle35:43
Yeah, Sean, thanks for the question. Aisha is probably best suited to start this off. So go ahead.
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Aisha Molino35:48
Yeah, sure, Sean. With regard to the RevPAR question, we look at it in a couple of different ways. Overall, we think the fundamentals of the business are healthy from a RevPAR perspective, and from an ADR perspective as well as an occupancy perspective, particularly among the luxury portfolio. We're seeing real stability and growth in some segments, and all that's been positive. All indications forward-looking remain good there as well. In terms of the lower end of the portfolio, we discussed this in the last quarter as well. We had seen some softness really starting toward the second quarter of last year, and that's been pretty consistent. We have been deploying strategies against it with the all-inclusive as well as with overall cost control there, and I think that's been productive. We're continuing to watch closely as the summer unfolds in terms of what happens with that customer. But as Bill noted, we feel pretty good about the weekends. In terms of the midweek, we're hoping to continue to see more stability as the year progresses. There are pockets where we have evidence of that, whether that's convention group business continuing to stabilize including those properties midweek, and also with some of this programming in the South Strip and Allegiant, we're seeing positive reaction that's impacting those properties as well.
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William Hornbuckle37:14
No, please go ahead. Just remembering, MGM we've got about 54,000 more room nights in the bucket this year because obviously they were offline. So just as pure math, that's going to help.
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Analyst37:25
Yeah, fair point on that. Thanks for that. And then as a follow-up, probably a good segue off of Allegiant: Bill, you mentioned in the prepared remarks a little bit about the NBA, which is a pretty exciting development. It may be too early to speculate, but you'd have a lot of vested interest in making sure that ended up at one of your venues, or potentially something like that. So can you talk to us about the strategy there for the city and MGM's involvement to the extent you have a hand in where a purpose-built stadium ends up or if one of the existing venues could be used for that?
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William Hornbuckle38:06
Yes, Sean. Appreciate the question. Fun question. I will start by saying I'm already under three NDAs. So the good news is the NBA has clearly earmarked Las Vegas and Seattle. We have had huge interest, and obviously whether Las Vegas becomes the ultimate site or not, time will tell. That'll be up to the board of governors sometime next year. That said, we're excited by it. How could we not be? We've all seen the success and what it means to Las Vegas with these sports teams coming. T-Mobile is part of that conversation, whether it's short-term or long-term. All roads lead to it for now, because the league has expressed interest to host a team as early as 2028. So we're intimately involved in many of those conversations. I hope and believe if the answer is yes or no, we'll know hopefully by this time next year. A process is beginning to start. We've been asked how we would position T-Mobile for any and all bidders, and we're beginning to do that with our partner at AEG and Bill Foley. We're open to all commerce, and there has been extensive interest in Las Vegas. So it's exciting, very exciting actually.
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Analyst39:23
Good to hear. Thanks.
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Operator39:26
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Barry Jonas at Truist. Please go ahead.
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Analyst39:33
Hey guys, I'm wondering if the current Iran conflict has impacted your UAE non-gaming project and its timeline, and do you believe there's still a chance you could get gaming there or in Abu Dhabi? Thank you.
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William Hornbuckle39:49
Barry, let me handle it. It hasn't impacted the ultimate timing, i.e. construction. For now, China State, who is building the project, continues, and the project remains on schedule. We have not heard yet, nor do I think we will given the environment for a while, on whether gaming will be permitted or not. Reminding the balance of the group who may not be as familiar with that project: they are allowing us to hold a quarter of a million square feet of space for a potential casino on one of the podium floors there. So it could be very exciting. For us, that is our key focus, not Abu Dhabi, to answer that part of the question. Right now, their business is struggling; the tourism business in that particular neck of the world is down to like 15% give or take. Occupancies are down to that level. So it'll take some recovery time no matter what happens over the next couple of months. But long term, we remain very excited. The project is fascinating and fabulous. So we're going to be all over it to continue to push both the agenda, the initiative, and the opening.
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Analyst41:01
Great. And then just sticking on international development for Japan. I guess they've reopened the process for additional licenses in the country. Curious how you think that potentially impacts your 2030 project, and then as a follow-up with Iran, any impact to construction costs that you're seeing? Thank you.
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William Hornbuckle41:27
On the second question, no, not yet. Although like everybody in the world, we're subject to cost inflation and cost of goods. A lot of our concrete and steel has been contracted, so that's the goodness. But there's obviously a long way to go; we still have four years to go there. What was the first part of the question?
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Analyst41:51
Oh, just about additional licenses now in Japan. Sorry, yeah, reopening the process.
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William Hornbuckle41:58
They have started the process. They put some dates out. I think it runs through next spring. Time will tell. Given the scale and scope and what we all went through, there are only two or three markets that could actually accommodate something that would make sense and be successful. Whether there's the political will at the end of the day to do that or not, time will tell. We've all witnessed first time around that there was not. And knowing Japan as well as we do — I'll remind everybody we're in our 17th year of this — I don't think it would impact us too quickly no matter what happened. And frankly, if they were able to get better terms and/or conditions, that would only work to our betterment. With 120 million people to share, I'm not overly concerned, to the contrary.
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Analyst42:45
Perfect. Thank you.
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Operator42:48
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Steven Grahamling at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
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Analyst42:56
Hey, thank you. Can you hear me?
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Jonathan Hulkyard42:58
Absolutely, Stephen.
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Analyst43:00
So, Jonathan, you mentioned the multiple for Northfield versus the current trading was higher than where the baseline is. I guess does that make you reconsider monetizing other assets as a way to surface value? Are there things that you see out there that could ultimately end up being sold or rethought as a way of surfacing value?
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Jonathan Hulkyard43:27
I meant it really as a way of hopefully monetizing the price of our stock. We have, although it's been for a few years now, I would say we've been fairly active in doing just that, starting with the sale of the Mirage at a nice double-digit multiple, the sale of our gold stripe property in Tuna at the same double-digit multiple, and now Northfield Park — a slot-only facility with no hotel, performing nicely, a pretty good multiple well in excess of what our enterprise trades at. We're guided in our dispositions more by our strategies and market positions than necessarily by the level at which these properties could be sold. That was the case with all three transactions I mentioned. They were all done for strategic reasons. I just think these valuations highlight what we think is a real disconnect with the enterprise valuation. So in short, no, it doesn't cause us to say what other properties might we be able to sell, because that's usually informed by a strategic approach.
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Analyst44:52
Fair enough. And then an unrelated question on Macau: looked like the mass market hold was better than historical trend. Is there something structurally changing there as we think about player type, bet types, or even the technology being implemented that could make that sustainable?
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William Hornbuckle45:15
Well, I'll make one comment, let Kenny comment. There's a lot of prop bets now. Some baccarat tables have as many as six prop bets on them, and that has changed the game, the nature of the game, and frankly the odds of the game. Ken, I don't know if you want to comment a little further.
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Kenneth Fang45:32
Yeah, thanks, Bill. We are seeing increasing adoption of some side bets on gaming floors. As you know, side bets in general carry a house advantage higher than the traditional games. We are rolling out some more side bets literally this week at MGM, following some recent approval by the ICG. But the history of side betting in Macau is still relatively short; these games only got popular after the pandemic. Along with the volatility in the premium mass market, we do not think it is the right time to adjust the theoretical mass hold. We will keep monitoring the adoption of the games, the player, and the GGR trend, etc.
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Analyst46:40
Thanks. That's helpful. Thank you so much.
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Operator46:44
Thank you. And our next question today comes from Chad Bayon with McCory. Please go ahead.
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Analyst46:51
Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Wondering if you can talk about the international business in the first quarter in Las Vegas, either around Chinese New Year or Super Bowl. Those comps have been fairly easy over the past couple years. We're not anywhere near back to where the peaks were, but wondering if you're starting to see some nice improvement there that could carry forward throughout '26.
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William Hornbuckle47:19
Chad, thanks for the question. Look, I would say yes, to a limited degree. Obviously, the very nature of what's happened with our core Far East business and China and the restriction of capital leaving that marketplace has not been eradicated or changed back to where it was. We do see Mexico more often than ever. I mentioned earlier in my comments we had a tremendous baccarat tournament this last weekend in April. It was as always full of international play and players. So the good news is, despite the overall traffic decline internationally, mostly driven by Canada when it comes to rated play and particularly premium rated play, it's very healthy and that hasn't changed. I don't think there's anything out there other than an outright war that would change that anytime soon.
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Analyst48:19
Okay. Thanks. And then on the LeoVegas or digital business, there's been some contraction in public multiples on affiliate companies and sports data companies, and even on the B2C given regulatory changes. What's your appetite in terms of improving or growing the ecosystem from a tech standpoint to grow that business at a time when multiples might be attractive? Thanks.
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Jonathan Hulkyard48:52
Yeah, listen, I think we feel really confident about the assets that we have under the hood right now. We were very deliberate in assembling the portfolio of assets that we did. We didn't buy the most obvious shiny new thing. We were very deliberate, turned over a lot of rocks, and assembled the portfolio that we did. I think we've mentioned before, we feel we're fully, largely fully deployed in terms of capital commitment to the international and MGM digital business. Can never say never, but I don't see any glaring holes in our portfolio at the moment. So it would take something extraordinary probably to see us deploy additional capital.
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Operator49:44
Thank you. And our final question today comes from Ben Chicken at Missouo. Please go ahead.
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Analyst49:51
Hey, thanks for taking my question. I've got one kind of two-parter. If I recall, I think there was a small fine in the prior year 1Q. I don't know if that sticks out or if it just gets caught in the wash. And then maybe you could help us think about 2Q last year in the correct base. You report in Las Vegas, you reported around $710 million, but I think you flagged $60 million of headwinds: $20 from Grand, $20 from some event spend, and $20 from hold, I believe. As you think about the business today, do those three buckets still make sense to you, or have things changed? Thanks.
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Jonathan Hulkyard50:31
You're correct. There was a small fine in the first quarter of 2025 that we incurred that affected our results there. That's one of those things — we have those types of relatively small impacts one way or the other in our results pretty much every quarter. Second quarter last year: you're correct that we were underway with the renovation at the MGM Grand during the quarter, which affected us for pretty much all of the year. We did have a net negative impact on hold during the second quarter last year that was roughly $20 million. So I guess those are probably the two things I would call out. When I look at this quarter, we certainly have the benefit of the MGM Grand and those rooms back. And then you never know how hold is going to go, but last year in the second quarter we were impacted negatively by hold.
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Analyst51:38
And then the $20 million event — is that just kind of forget that one, or how are you thinking about it now?
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Jonathan Hulkyard51:48
Well, not forget about it, but that was a VIP event that we had. Part of that was also reflected in the hold results that we had during the quarter. But again, we do VIP marketing events in our business, whether it's Chinese New Year. We just had actually the same VIP marketing event this past weekend. It's costly, but we think it's really important for our customers and for that segment of the business. So that particular event, we had last year and we had again this year in the quarter, and we did well with it.
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Analyst52:33
Yeah, thank you.
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Operator52:36
Okay, thanks Ben. Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bill Hornbuckle for any closing remarks.
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William Hornbuckle52:46
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for listening in. I hope if nothing we've shown that we're resilient, that this market is resilient, that people — and this weekend's another good example. I think we have Morgan Wallen here at Allegiant. People are still excited by what we do, and despite all the noise in the world, and we all know there's a lot, we're pleased who we are and we're excited for the future. So thank you all.
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Operator53:12
Thank you. That concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.