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Vicki Hollub
President, Chief Executive Officer & Director, Occidental Petroleum Corp

$OXY Occidental Petroleum Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call

🎥 May 08, 2024 📺 EARNMOAR ⏱ 51m
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About Vicki Hollub

On Occidental's first quarter 2026 earnings call on May 7, 2026, Hollub announced she will retire as president and CEO effective June 1, 2026, with Richard Jackson succeeding her. She stated she will continue to serve on the board. Hollub described the company's near-term cash flow priority as reducing principal debt to $10 billion. She noted that Occidental had put in place a modest amount of oil hedges using costless collars in February 2026, prior to the escalation of conflict in the Middle East, covering 100,000 barrels per day from March through December 2026 with a floor of $55 WTI. In media appearances in April 2026, Hollub discussed the company's exposure to Middle East geopolitical risk)Skip. She said that in 2016 the company began exiting countries in the Middle East and other international locations, transforming from 50% international production to 83% domestic U.S. production. Following a strike on a gas recovery unit in the UAE, she stated the unit was likely irreparable in a short period. Hollub also said the company's resource potential had grown from 8 billion barrels of oil equivalent in 2015 to 16.5 billion, and that the company has 30-plus years of development opportunity. She stated that the U.S. could hit peak oil production between 2027 and 2030hol, and that CO2 enhanced oil recovery could extend U.S. energy independence by about 10 years.

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Transcript (56 segments)
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Operator0:00
Good afternoon and welcome to Occidental's first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jordan Tanner, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Jordan Tanner0:44
Thank you, Drew. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for participating in Occidental's first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. On the call with us today are Vicki Hollub, President and Chief Executive Officer; Sunil Mathew, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Richard Jackson, President Operations US Onshore Resources and Carbon Management; and Ken Dillon, Senior Vice President and President International Oil and Gas Operations. This afternoon we will refer to slides available on the Investor section of our website. The presentation includes a cautionary statement on Slide 2 regarding forward-looking statements that will be made on the call this afternoon. We'll also reference a few non-GAAP financial measures today. Reconciliations to the nearest corresponding GAAP measure can be found in the schedules to our earnings release and on our website. I'll now turn the call over to Vicki.
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Vicki Hollub1:50
Thank you, Jordan, and good afternoon everyone. I'm pleased to report on a strong start to 2024, driven by our persistent focus on operational execution. As we will detail on today's call, our oil and gas business delivered robust production results, essentially offsetting an extended third-party outage, while our Midstream and OxyChem businesses outperformed our first quarter guidance. Today I'll start by discussing our first quarter performance, including highlighting our Delaware appraisal success and its contribution to the Permian's development runway. Then I'll discuss what's on the horizon for Oxy and how these initiatives are expected to generate significant value for our shareholders. Operational excellence is fundamental to everything we do at Oxy, and our capabilities were evident during the first quarter as our teams generated over $2.4 billion in operating cash flow before working capital. Though the third-party outage in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico made it a challenging start to the year, our teams delivered excellent performance in all areas of our portfolio. We concluded the first quarter by approximating the midpoint of our production guidance, and we restarted production from our Gulf of Mexico platforms affected by the outage in mid-April. Taking a closer look at our production results, the first quarter benefited from strong new well performance in the Permian Basin and the Rockies, overcoming the impact of winter weather early in the year. In the Permian, we exceeded the midpoint of our production guidance due in part to better than expected secondary bench performance in the Delaware Basin. Our Delaware teams are achieving impressive performance results by applying the same proprietary subsurface workflows that have generated remarkable success in our primary benches and applying that to secondary benches. Through utilization of fit-for-purpose well design and reservoir characterization expertise, performance in our secondary benches is nearly matching Oxy's record-setting 2023 program average. Not only that, first year cumulative production from Oxy's 2023 secondary wells exceeds the Delaware industry average for all horizontal wells for the same period by more than 30%. We are driving financial returns for our shareholders by improving our ability to high-grade our near-term inventory and by extending our runway of tier one locations. Meanwhile, use of our existing infrastructure yields meaningful capital efficiencies. We expect these efficiency benefits to become more impactful as secondary benches become a more substantial part of our development program. Our Rocky asset outperformed the high end of our first quarter production guidance, partly driven by strong well performance in the DJ Basin, better production uptime, higher than expected outside operated volumes. Internationally, we achieved record gross daily production in Oman North, driven by new well performance and production uptime. Our teams continue to improve capital efficiency through a combination of innovative well design, exceptional execution, proactive supply chain and management practices. In the DJ and Powder River basins, our teams optimized casing and cementing plans, completion stage design, and profit utilization. These fit-for-purpose well design enhancements resulted in tangible first quarter well cost reductions of between $700,000 and $1 million per well compared to the first half of last year. We're also starting to see cost reduction progress in the Delaware Basin. Our continuous drive for improvement not only leads to innovations that increase operational efficiencies, but in many instances we're also able to reduce emissions and advance progress toward our net zero goals. I'm proud of our team's involvement in another oil and gas industry first: the deployment of a fully electric well service rig. Oxy and Axis Energy Services deployed the first of its kind rig into our Permian Basin operations. Expanding electrification is integral to Oxy's strategy because it increases operational efficiency, generates cost savings, improves safety, and helps reduce our emissions. Our Midstream business significantly outperformed the high end of our guidance for the first quarter. Outperformance was partly driven by gas marketing optimization across our portfolio, where our teams captured value in regional pricing disparities. Former than expected weather combined with various third-party Midstream infrastructure maintenance resulted in disjointed prices in some regions. Midstream's first quarter performance demonstrates how our teams realized value from these pricing abnormalities by leveraging Oxy's rich market intelligence along with our product storage and transportation portfolio. Looking back over multiple quarters, our marketing teams have frequently demonstrated the ability to outperform, with our transportation optimization capabilities playing a major role. Over the longer term, we anticipate similar marketing opportunities, but we generally exclude those opportunities from our guidance because of the difficulty in predicting event occurrence. Not only does our Midstream business provide us with flow assurance for our marketed products, it also offers great diversification during periods of commodity price volatility, as we saw in early 2024. Along with being one of the top performers for the products it manufactures, OxyChem is a consistent cash flow diversifier within our business, due in part to its renowned focus on operational efficiency. During the first quarter, OxyChem benefited from improved demand for our marketed products including PVC and vinyl chloride, as well as lower ethylene cost. This performance demonstrates how our diversified asset portfolio is well positioned to deliver financial results for our shareholders throughout the commodity cycle. In prior calls, we have reiterated our drive to increase value for our investors on an absolute and per share basis through cash flow and earnings growth. Today I'd like to provide an update on the specific projects that we mentioned in our last quarterly call. Some aspects of the OxyChem plant enhancement projects are complete, but there is more to be done, including the Battleground project where the team held a groundbreaking ceremony on April 4th to kick off the site work. Employees, contractors, community partners, city leaders, and elected officials attended in support of the project. The completion of the OxyChem projects and reductions in crude oil and transportation rates from the Permian into the Gulf Coast are expected to deliver incremental cash flow of approximately $725 million per year. In our Midstream business, we expect that our ownership stake in Western Midstream, or WES, will also enhance our financial results. In February, WES announced an increase of over 50% to their distribution. Based on the current distribution, we anticipate that WES will contribute over $240 million of additional cash flow per year to Oxy. Additionally, we intend to increase free cash flow by repaying debt as it matures. Repayment of existing debt maturities through 2026 will result in approximately $180 million of annualized incremental cash flow from interest savings that can then be applied to further strengthen our balance sheet. Overall, we expect more than $1 billion of cash flow improvements that are independent of commodity cycles. That figure does not include our oil and gas business, which is also poised for continued financial success. As most of you know, at the end of last year we entered into an agreement to strategically enhance our Midland Basin portfolio with the acquisition of CrownRock. The free cash flow accretion and portfolio high-grading to be enabled by the CrownRock acquisition are expected to provide the potential for equity appreciation and acceleration of our shareholder return priorities. In our low-carbon ventures businesses, we expect to generate cash flow detached from oil and gas price volatility and further strengthen Oxy's cash flow resiliency. Construction of our first direct air capture plant, Stratos, is advancing on schedule, and during the first quarter we were pleased to announce a multitude of carbon dioxide removal credit agreements with customers across a variety of sectors. Throughout Oxy's portfolio, we are focused on expanding resilient cash flow and enhancing shareholder value for decades to come. I will now hand the call over to Sunil, who will cover our financial results and guidance.
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Sunil Mathew10:57
Thank you, Vicki. In the first quarter of 2024, we generated an adjusted profit of 63 cents per diluted share and a reported profit of 75 cents per diluted share. The difference between adjusted and reported profit was primarily driven by a litigation settlement gain related to the and arbitration and gains on sales included in equity income, partially offset by derivative losses. We exited the first quarter with nearly $1.3 billion of unrestricted cash. We had a negative working capital change, which is typical for the first quarter and is largely due to semiannual interest payments on our debt, annual property tax payments, and payments under our compensation plans. During the first quarter, we delivered over $700 million of free cash flow before working capital, despite third-party outage impacts to portions of Oxy's high margin production in the Gulf of Mexico. First quarter free cash flow was underpinned by outperformance in our onshore domestic portfolio and our Midstream and OxyChem segments. Looking ahead to the second quarter, total company production is expected to increase to a range of 1.23 to 1.27 million BOE per day, compared to the first quarter annual low of 1.17 million BOE per day. The midpoint of second quarter production guidance will be the highest quarterly production in over 3 years. The production increase is mainly due to US onshore activity levels, the completion of annual planned maintenance at Dolphin, and the return of production in mid-April from the Gulf of Mexico outage. Second quarter Gulf of Mexico production guidance includes third-party outage impacts in April as well as plant maintenance in the Central Gulf of Mexico. Though we revised our full year Gulf of Mexico production guidance down as a result of the extended outage, it is fully offset by outperformance in the Rockies, and we are maintaining our total company production guidance for the year. The modified production mix is expected to impact annual total company oil cut. We had a strong start to 2024 in our chemicals business and anticipate modest price improvements during the second quarter, combined with higher volumes as we exit the usual period of seasonal subdued demand. Though lower gas prices are unfavorable elsewhere in our portfolio, OxyChem benefits from reduced energy costs, and our Midstream teams are well positioned to capitalize on the gas marketing opportunities that Vicki highlighted. Solid outperformance enabled us to raise Midstream segment guidance range by $110 million. Oxy's first quarter performance demonstrates the benefits of a differentiated portfolio. Our diversified assets and distinguished operational capabilities offer our shareholders cash flow resiliency throughout the commodity cycle. In terms of capital spending, our first quarter results were in alignment with the 2024 business plan and a capital program that is weighted towards the first half of the year. On the last earnings call, we stated that approximately 40% of Rockies capital for the year is associated with drilled and uncompleted wells, or DUCs, carried in from 2023. We intend to continue completing these wells and reduce DUC inventory through the first half of the year. Similarly, Permian capital is weighted towards the first half of the year due to working interest variability and the desire to high-grade rigs and increase utilization rates into the second half of the year. This US onshore capital profile, combined with Battleground project ramp-up, is expected to result in the second quarter being the highest quarterly capital for the year. I would like to close today by touching on the CrownRock acquisition. Our teams are working constructively with the FTC, and we anticipate that the transaction will close in the third quarter of this year. As a reminder, Oxy will benefit from CrownRock's activity between the transaction's January 1, 2024 effective date and close, subject to customary purchase price adjustments. Concurrent with the CrownRock acquisition, we announced a $4.5 to $6 billion divestiture program to be completed within 18 months of the transaction's close. The high quality assets within our portfolio have garnered much interest, and our teams have commenced the early stages of the divestiture process. Sales proceeds will be applied to deleveraging until we reduce our principal debt to $15 billion or below. The near-term cash flow enhancements that Vicki highlighted are expected to deliver significant free cash flow growth per diluted share for our common shareholders and to enable us to accelerate the achievement of our debt target. After our debt target is met, we intend to resume our share repurchase program and provide even greater value per common share. As we have discussed on today's call, we are well positioned to build on a strong first quarter of 2024 and deliver a differentiated long-term value proposition to our shareholders. I will now turn the call back over to Vicki.
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Vicki Hollub16:52
Thank you, Sunil. Before we move to Q&A, I want to tell you about a milestone our team celebrated last quarter. Oxy began trading on the New York Stock Exchange on March 3rd, 1964. On that day, our operations consisted of 252 oil and gas wells in six states. Today we are an international energy, chemicals, and carbon management company with the best portfolio in our history. But I believe that Oxy's employees are the true differentiator. Their expertise and drive to outperform continue to stretch the limits of what is achievable in our industry. Our employees are hard at work executing our strategy through superior operations and best-in-class assets. Their efforts result in long-term shareholder value, and I look forward to showcasing more of their achievements on future calls. With that, we'll now open the call for questions. And as a reminder, as Jordan mentioned, Richard Jackson and Ken Dillon are with us today for the Q&A session.
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Operator17:55
We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please limit questions to one primary question and one follow-up. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Roger Read with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
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Roger Read18:30
Yeah, thank you and good afternoon. I'd like to dig in a little bit more on the Permian outlook here, and probably including the Rockies, maybe let's just call it the Lower 48. If we look at the capex and then we look at the forecast for the full year, I'm just a little curious why you didn't get a little more optimistic about total volumes. I recognize that within the year-over-year changes, we're looking at a little more maybe a little less shale wells, and I was wondering if that's part of the difference we're seeing or maybe why we don't see production raised as well.
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Richard Jackson19:22
Richard. Yeah, thanks Roger, appreciate the question. Clearly very pleased with our first quarter results coming out of both the Rockies and the Permian. Both had a beat on the quarter. I'll focus on the Permian first. A couple of things just to anchor the year. As we think about going from first quarter to the second quarter, which Sunil mentioned quite a big step up in terms of production, but even looking at first half versus second half in the Permian, the implied increase is about 18,000 barrels a day first half to second half, and we're doing that while reducing rigs by four in the Permian. So we're getting more with less in terms of how we think about activity. Some of that plays through on the capital as you mentioned, as we're a bit front-loaded heavy both on rigs and facilities in the first half of the year to take on that production increase starting next quarter. The good news is things are performing well. When you look at the year and the trajectory we're going on with things that are meaningful to our business, we highlight the new well production not only in the primary zones, which we've highlighted over the last couple years, but now especially this quarter we really wanted to highlight the success of the secondary benches that play a meaningful role in our portfolio for the year. The other thing we don't talk enough about is base decline. If you look at our Permian resources this year, we're improving our base decline from last year about 45%, which is around 15,000 barrels a day. That's really come through not only better wells but a lot better operations. Our uptime is improving 1 to 2% in places like the Delaware. As we thought about full year guidance, we certainly appreciated the results in the first quarter, but we wanted to see how this plays out over this steep production increase over the next couple of quarters. We look forward to updating our milestones on progress. The last thing I would say is behind that, as you think about capital, we are seeing capital efficiency. We highlighted some of the well cost improvements both in the Rockies and the Permian, and we're very pleased with our team's progress there. That's being done through strong approaches with our service companies but also through well design changes which we noted. As we put that together, our capital intensity this year has improved over last year, which is the goal. What we're spending in dollars per production added has improved year on year, and we'll stay focused on that. We look forward to more updates as we go this year to help put that piece together for our total year outlook.
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Roger Read22:36
Okay, appreciate that. The other question I had, you talked about it in the intro there, Vicki, the performance of the Midstream. How much of that is something that we ought to think about as we're going forward over the next year and a half, two years? We'll have another period where we're probably constrained on being able to move oil and gas out of the basin. Just maybe a way to think about other opportunities coming forward for you all to capture a little bit better.
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Vicki Hollub23:11
Well, for us, we don't have an issue moving oil or gas out of the Permian Basin. In fact, some of the positive impacts for our Midstream performance are due to the fact that from a gas perspective, we have capacity so that we can move molecules around and trade molecules, and we have ways to get gas to California and to other markets. So from a gas marketing perspective, we're in really good shape, and takeaway capacity is in good shape there. Oil we're also in good shape. We have overcapacity now to get barrels out of the Permian. When we talk about fluctuations in the Midstream business with respect to crude marketing, normally some of that is associated with picking up the third-party barrels that are associated with the capacity that we need to fill with incremental barrels above and beyond our current production. So that's the volatility mostly in the Midstream business. That along with the gas marketing does cause volatility, but normally that volatility is to the upside for us because, as I just mentioned, we have the capability to move things around and to take advantage of situations where others are disadvantaged. While with Waha and the situation that it's in, our upstream realizations are lower, but our Midstream business is able to capture opportunity to offset that.
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Operator24:50
The next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
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Paul Cheng24:57
Thank you, good morning. In the Delaware, you're talking about the secondary benches. I think it's the Bone Spring. Is it widespread to your entire operation or specifically in certain counties? Is there any kind of characteristic that you can see in terms of the pattern that will lead to this really strong performance wells from those benches or those areas? We're trying to understand how important it is to your overall operation or your overall inventory level. Secondly, your DJ has been performing really well. It has been beating your own guidance for a number of quarters, actually at least for say seven or eight quarters already. From that standpoint, is your current estimate maybe a little bit conservative for the remaining of the year in the DJ? Also, what are the primary reasons for the outperformance there? Thank you.
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Richard Jackson26:11
Yeah, thanks Paul. I'll start in the Permian and then get to the Rockies. The way we describe our approach to primary benches and then it's turned into our secondary benches is really unique by area. We spend a lot of time, and we've talked about it in the past, really focused on the subsurface aspects both from a geologic perspective and then as you think about it over time from a reservoir perspective. As we've continued to delineate and be more broad in terms of the zones that we put together in areas we focus on, we think about how we put these wells in space together in the subsurface to optimize that recovery. Of course, your stimulation design and these other factors play an important role. I don't think it's unique by area. I think it's the same approach that we've delivered in terms of the Midland Basin with the success we've had in the Barnett, what we're doing in the Delaware Basin whether it's upper Bone Spring or deeper Wolfcamp. As we think about the Rockies, the same sort of approach there. In terms of the Rockies, they've had great performance over the last really year plus. A lot of that started with this subsurface approach where we really spent time thinking about how we approach lateral length, spacing, stimulation intensity. I think a lot of the early gains we were seeing there, what we're seeing today is a lot more operational. We talk about how we draw these wells down so early flowback and then longer term, and what we're seeing is really improvements in both. In the early time performance, it's really having the facilities and the emissions handling to do that not only at a correct rate but to handle the emissions. Then long term, we've talked about the base recovery with things like our plunger lift assist, kind of AI, and so these type of things are really what delivered the outperformance. I wish I could say it was conservative. I just think they've improved so much. When you're improving better than 20% year on year, that's sometimes tough to outlook. But I think they've gotten more mature in terms of some of these advancements over the last year, and I think we've done a lot better job narrowing the uncertainty of those outlooks. But all the teams are still on the hook to outperform this year. We're optimistic like I answered earlier in terms of what we're doing in the Permian as well. I appreciate the question. Hope that helps.
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Operator29:00
The next question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
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Neil Mehta29:08
Yeah, Vicki, team, thanks for the call so far. My first question is just around non-core asset sales. Recognizing we still have some time before the deal closes, I would imagine you continue to have conversations around the divestments. Just curious to what your perspective is on the market right now and your confidence in the achievability of up to the $6 billion of non-core asset sales that many have anchored to.
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Vicki Hollub29:40
Yeah, there's a lot of incoming interest. Once we announced that we were going to divest between $4.5 billion and $6 billion, Sunil started getting a lot of phone calls and letters. The interest is there, and it's very high interest. What we're hoping and expecting is that that high level of interest translates into appropriate levels of offers for the things that we might consider selling. But it all comes down to valuation, and that's going to make the difference for us because we do have options. As you know, lots of acreage. We're going to make the best value decision that we can. We don't see that there would be any impediments barring something that we haven't foreseen that would cause us to have issues with our divestitures.
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Neil Mehta30:33
Thanks, Vicki. And the follow-up is just your perspective...
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Vicki Hollub30:36
Sorry, please. Sunil, what we were going to do is just for those that haven't heard, Sunil is going to go through what we think about with respect to divestitures, just to give those who might be listening an idea of what we're looking at.
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Sunil Mathew30:54
Hi Neil. Yeah, so as we have said previously, evaluating our portfolio, the high-graded portfolio, and identifying what are the assets that do not fit in our development plan now, near-term development plan, but that could be attractive to other companies. So what is the strategic fit of that asset in this high-graded portfolio, and like Vicki mentioned, what is the value that we can get, and can we potentially accelerate the value by monetizing this asset? Like Vicki said, we're getting a lot of inbounds even before the announcement and a lot more after the announcement. But this is the criteria that we're using to evaluate: is this an asset that we want to potentially monetize? Going back to a question about $4.5 to $6 billion, yes, we are fully committed to achieving the target within 18 months of closing. Between the proceeds from asset sales and organic cash flow, we want to get to the $15 billion of principal debt that we have outlined.
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Neil Mehta31:56
That's great perspective. Thank you, Sunil. And then the follow-up is just on Battleground. I'd love your perspective on both the chlorine and caustic soda markets and how do you think about the outlook there. Once the expansion comes online, do you think that changes the supply-demand dynamics for any of these products?
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Vicki Hollub32:17
Just to go back and look at what OxyChem has been able to do the last few years. When we think about pricing of PVC and caustic, we've just come out of an incredible super cycle where in 2022 we achieved our highest annual earnings ever, our second best earnings in 2021, and our third best in 2023. Now that we're into 2024, prices don't seem to be quite at the bottom. As we were going through the first quarter, we started to see some strengthening in both caustic soda and PVC a little bit. But the reality is that inflation in the United States, along with very weak demand out of China because they're basically overbuilt right now in both commercial and residential housing and buildings, we don't see China demand getting better anytime soon. But we do believe that beyond this year, getting past our inflationary environment, once there's some certainty around some reduction in inflation, we think the housing market is already primed for growth again. If we can get to an inflation level that is conducive for that, we'll certainly start seeing recovery in prices here in the United States. The international market, and we do export, so the international market impacts us. We'll continue to see some pricing challenges in that market. But ultimately, getting beyond this year in the next 18 months, I do believe that driven by India and other places, we'll see growth in demand again and we'll start seeing prices going back up. We're feeling like we're probably at a bottom right now.
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Operator34:31
The next question comes from John Royall with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
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John Royall34:37
Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So just thinking about the $400 million from Midstream contract roll-offs, how much of the better terms baked into those numbers is locked in today versus what you're just kind of expecting? And to the extent it isn't locked in, what's your level of confidence that the terms won't move the other way as we get closer to the roll-off?
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Vicki Hollub35:03
I'm sorry, could you repeat that question a little bit? We had some disturbance. Mr. Royall, could you pick up if you're on a speaker phone, pick up a handset by any chance?
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John Royall35:14
Is this better? Can you hear me now?
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Operator35:17
I think that is better. Go ahead, sir. Please repeat your question.
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John Royall35:20
Apologies for that. Vicki, so just thinking about the $400 million from Midstream contract roll-offs, how much of the better terms baked into those numbers is locked in today versus what you're expecting? And what's your level of confidence that to the extent it's not locked in, it might not go the other way before you have to renegotiate?
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Vicki Hollub35:42
I have high confidence that we'll achieve the $400 million. Some of that we're already seeing today. I do believe that we wouldn't, trust me, we wouldn't say it if we weren't pretty confident that we'll get it.
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Sunil Mathew35:59
And John, it's this confidence that actually helped us increase our cash flow incremental cash flow from $350 to $400 million.
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John Royall36:08
Fair enough. And then, apologies if I missed anything on this, but I was hoping you could get into the 2Q OpEx guide a little bit, which is somewhat flattish with 1Q despite higher production with the Gulf coming back up. So it looks like a numerator issue and not a denominator issue. Just maybe any color there on the OpEx guide.
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Sunil Mathew36:30
I think the OpEx guide was driven mostly by the impact of the Gulf of Mexico production and the production coming back on. I don't see any differential there.
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Richard Jackson36:44
No, I think that's right. We're seeing improvement with Gulf of Mexico production coming back, but again like I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the second quarter does include some impact from the pipeline outage and we also have a planned shutdown in central Gulf of Mexico. By the time you get to the third and fourth quarter, you should see an improvement in the operating cost.
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Sunil Mathew37:07
Yeah, John, just to add to that trajectory, Q1 actuals were at $10.31 for LOE and we're outlooking $10.10 in the second quarter.
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Operator37:20
The next question comes from Neil Dingmann with Truist. Please go ahead.
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Neil Dingmann37:27
Good afternoon. Thanks for the time. Vicki, my question's on your Permian D&C plans, particularly around Slide 24. I like what you're showing there. You all suggest running about 21 rigs this year on average. This is something you talked about after running, I think it shows what is it, 24 in the first quarter. I'm just wondering, trying to get a sense of the cadence. Would it just be a sort of typical ramp down? And I'm also wondering if your operational efficiencies continue to be as good as they've been, would you let some rigs go and continue with that production plan, or would you maybe just ultimately end up producing more?
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Richard Jackson38:05
Yeah, perfect. I appreciate the question. Like I mentioned earlier, the plan is to ramp down sequentially as we go into the second half of the year. Really that's been the plan since we ported it and came out. We are seeing good operational efficiencies. I'd say time the market really in every area is slightly improved, so we'll consider that as we go into the end of the year to just understand how that may accelerate any capital and how we want to respond to that. One thing that has played out well, we noted these cost improvements. A couple of things to note beyond just operational efficiencies: we are seeing some good outcomes as we work with our service providers, like frac. We've been able to, as we relook and hit that more levelized balance of activity in the second half of the year, our utilization is going up about 10% on our frac crew. That's more pumping hours per year, and that's both good for us but also good for our frac providers in terms of how they manage their business. Those type of things are delivering these savings which we think will pace well even with some acceleration in our operational efficiencies. As the cadence goes this year, we're heavy on D&C to start the year and facilities as well like I mentioned. In that back half of the year, you'll see that capital drop and you'll see the production increase. Looking forward to that, that should set us up at a much more level-loaded and optimized pace going into 2025. Obviously we'll have options depending on where Vicki wants to take us with our capital program, but that's sort of the thinking going into this year and into next.
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Neil Dingmann40:08
And that's what I was looking for, Richard. And then Richard, quick follow-up on the Permian for my second. How do you view the typical these days, you're doing great on both, but your typical Delaware versus Midland well economics? Why I ask is just looking at the curves you all show on slides 25 and 29, which again I think you're towards the top. You're showing around 450,000 BOE in the Delaware after a year versus around 250,000 in the Midland. Knowing that they're cheaper wells, just wonder maybe in broad strokes how you think about the difference in the economics.
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Richard Jackson40:41
Yeah, I mean you're saying it right. I think it's the same way we think about these primary and secondary benches even in the Delaware. The cost matters, and it's not only the drilling and completion costs. You can look at a little bit shallower, a little bit different drilling in the Midland Basin leading to lower drilling and completion cost. Same for the secondary benches in the Delaware. You get a little shallower into the Bone Spring, they're cheaper, and that certainly plays through on the D&C. But the way the teams put together their development areas, they think about the impacts on facility cost. One of the examples I know we had reviewed here recently, we had some shallower Bone Spring wells that came on about three years after we drilled the Wolfcamp wells, and the returns for those secondary wells even with lower production was about double the primary. That was because we were able to reutilize these production facilities. That timing of how you put that production together can make a tremendous impact on the improvement of the economics. As you think about it in basins, we do the same thing. The advantages of being more balanced in the Midland Basin allows us to optimize all these facility cost, maintenance cost, all these things to make sure we're getting the most production per dollar spent, not just capital but even OpEx. Appreciate the question. That's absolutely how we look at balancing the capital, looking for that full cycle return for it.
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Operator42:24
The next question comes from Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Please go ahead.
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Scott Gruber42:31
Yes, good afternoon. Staying on the topic of the Permian, can you provide some color on what's included in the Permian unconventional inventory count when it comes to the secondary benches in the Bone Spring, and how does their success potentially push the inventory count higher?
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Richard Jackson42:53
Yeah, I'll just maybe give you some perspective on how we're thinking about our inventory in general in terms of how that's going, and I can address some of the Bone Spring. The last couple of years, we've been able to more than replace the wells drilled with improvements in inventory, which come in two buckets: one is appraisal activity, which I'll give you a little color on in terms of Bone Spring to your question, but also production improvement and cost reduction. Both of those things not only add inventory but they move it, we call it to the left, but gets us to less than 60, less than 50, and then ultimately what we're going for is less than $40 breakeven inventory. As we think about this year in the unconventional, we had a target of adding around 450 wells in the unconventional less than $50 breakeven. A bulk of that will come from, we highlighted one of the highlights we had was this third Bone Spring target that we had on the slide highlighting the four wells with the greater than 780 MBOE. Those will add a bulk of our improvement this year in terms of that promotion of inventory. When I look at even the first quarter just to give you some color, we're aiming for this 450. In the first quarter, we had 90 adds less than $50 breakeven. That came about half of that from the Bone Spring wells that I mentioned, but we're also getting things out of New Mexico and some of the shallower Bone Spring there. It's not only what we're drilling today, which is going up in terms of secondary bench as a percentage of our total drilled wells in the year, but it's really adding that low-cost inventory in the future. A lot of times we'll get the so what of this inventory, and that's really it. It's being able to extend this low-cost capital intensity as we prosecute our plan over the next few years.
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Scott Gruber45:11
Got it. And then how do you think about potentially co-developing some of the Bone Spring along with the core Wolfcamp, or are you looking at coming back and hitting those zones leveraging the infrastructure as you mentioned?
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Richard Jackson45:31
Yeah, I think that's a big part of the next few years, really optimizing how we put that together. Obviously in the Midland, we do a lot more what we call co-development where you're doing these zones at the same time. One of the benefits in the Delaware is being able to sequence them, have a little bit more precision because of the frac barriers, so we don't have to think about more of the cube or co-development opportunities, which gives us a great opportunity to really maximize the savings we get from reusing these facilities like I described. Last year I think we were around 20% secondary benches in the Delaware. This year we're north of 30, so you can see that opportunity becoming more prominent in terms of our development plans.
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Operator46:21
The next question comes from Nitin Kumar with Mizuho. Please go ahead.
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Nitin Kumar46:28
Hi, good afternoon and thanks for taking my question. I just want to start on CrownRock quickly. You mentioned that you're still on track to close the deal in the third quarter. When you announced the deal, you had talked about about 170,000 BOE per day of production from CrownRock. Just wanted to see if we could revisit that and see how things were trending there as you are getting closer to the close.
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Vicki Hollub46:55
We don't really have any update on the production or any of the other metrics from CrownRock, just what we've provided previously. We'll probably provide, well, we'll definitely provide an update when we have our next quarterly meeting because by that time I believe we will have closed, maybe not, but it's going to be certainly sometime in the third quarter.
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Nitin Kumar47:21
Great, I thought I'd give it a shot. And I just, you know, there's been some movement in Colorado around the SP24 which requires a production fee on producers. Want to see what that would look like for Oxy, you're a big producer in the state, and sort of what your thoughts are around that initiative.
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Vicki Hollub47:42
Yeah, I think that the agreement that was reached in Colorado is a win-win for both the people of Colorado and the investments, the investors in Colorado. We feel that paying the fee, along with paying the fee to have taken away some bills and some potential ballot measures that would have severely restricted what the oil and gas industry could do, when you take that together all together, it provides a scenario for the governor and the government of Colorado to do something positive with the fees that will be collected. We view this to be not overly burdensome for our operations. We think it's actually going to be a doable scenario for us as we work toward doing some of the other things that will come along with this, which is working more on doing things that impact and help to reduce the impact on the ozone layer as well as doing some things that will help from an environmental justice standpoint. It's a full package deal, it's not just a fee, and putting all that together, it's a good deal.
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Operator49:04
The next question comes from David Deckelbaum with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
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David Deckelbaum49:12
Afternoon, Vicki and team. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask for a little bit more color just on the guide so I'm clear on how numbers are progressing this year. The impact from the Gulf of Mexico, is that exclusively what's contributing to the 100 basis point reduction in oil cut this year? Are you seeing some contribution from some gassier zones in some of your core assets or perhaps the impact of the PSC in areas like Algeria?
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Vicki Hollub49:42
No, it was almost entirely due to the Gulf of Mexico shutdown. There's really nothing else trending differently that we have in our portfolio.
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David Deckelbaum49:53
Appreciate that. Then maybe just to follow up on the discussion around deleveraging and non-core asset sales. It sounds like on this call you might be emphasizing more the cash flow returns that you would be otherwise receiving from some of these assets that maybe the market has flagged as divestiture candidates. Is that the intention here in signaling that you intend to delever more organically and that non-core asset sales either theoretically would be higher in dollar value to reflect that cash contribution or might take longer to materialize?
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Vicki Hollub50:27
I don't think that's what we intended to say. That was not the message we intended to give. When we talk about the fact that we will evaluate everything from a value perspective, what we want to do is just ensure that we're making the right decisions. Divestitures of non-core areas is something that we want to do, and we believe that based on the interest that we're seeing, that we should be able to achieve.
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Operator51:02
In the interest of time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Vicki Hollub for any closing remarks.
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Vicki Hollub51:12
I'd just like to thank you all for your questions and for joining our call. Have a great rest of your day.
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Operator51:19
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.