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Shantanu Narayen
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, Adobe Inc.

Q2 FY2026 Adobe Earnings Conference Call

🎥 Jun 11, 2026 📺 Wealth,Finance & Investment Center ⏱ 34m 👁 62 views
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About Shantanu Narayen

Shantanu Narayen, chairman and CEO of Adobe, said on the company’s Q2 FY2026 earnings call on June 11 that Adobe reported record revenue of $6.62 billion and raised its full-year revenue and non-GAAP EPS targets. He described AI as “accelerating customer behavior at an unprecedented speed” and said the company is shifting its strategy to prioritize freemium offerings through products like Adobe Firefly, Express, and Acrobat AI Assistant to accelerate user acquisition, even if it lowers short-term ARR growth. Narayen stated that Adobe is “continuously looking” at technology companies for potential tuck-in acquisitions, noting that many lack sustainable business models. He also said the board’s CEO search is “progressing well” following his announced plan to transition to board chair. At the Adobe Summit in April 2026, Narayen said the company is “living at a true inflection point” where AI is reshaping creativity and marketing, and argued that “creative control is more important than ever before.” He described Adobe’s opportunity as becoming “the AI platform for all creativity across every single surface,” comparing the potential to the disruption seen in AI coding markets. Narayen expressed confidence that the creative business is “extremely stable” and that Adobe is “uniquely qualified” to capture the AI opportunity, adding that the company intends to maintain a “singular focus” rather than diffuse its efforts.

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Transcript (37 segments)
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Analyst0:00
I think we're going to get questions on how the company manages through this level of transition in a world where there are a lot of questions around disruption or changes to the market across software. So, maybe you can just speak to how you maintain continuity with both the CEO search and CFO transition in motion, and maybe also touch on the profile of what you're looking for or think the company needs in its next stage at this point.
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Shantanu Narayen0:31
Sure, Michael. Let me take that. I will first start off by saying the leadership team that exists in the finance organization is absolutely seasoned and top-notch. I wish Dan well. It's clear that where he's going is where his background and expertise has been. But I'm confident that we won't miss a beat. As it relates to any other questions associated with the transition, I'm happy to answer that, but my short answer is we have an incredibly seasoned leadership team and I will continue to work with them closely as I have in the past to make sure that we drive all our strategic objectives.
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Analyst1:16
And just if I may, a follow-up on the decision to defer line optimizations on Creative Cloud. I assume we're coming up on a potential price increase there. So, maybe speak to why that's the right decision for Adobe today and how you think that sets the creative business up for future growth.
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Shantanu Narayen1:40
Yeah, happy to, Michael. I think if we really look at it, we just look at what's happening with the AI opportunity for creativity as this incredible opportunity that is upon us right now. No other company is as well positioned given what we have across our models, products, and interfaces to take advantage of it. This is really about saying what we have done as it relates to capturing MAU with Acrobat and Express, what we've done with respect to Firefly, the entire creative market. Sometimes I like to characterize this much like what's happened with the code opportunity. If you think about what's happened with the code opportunity across AI, it's just completely been turned upside down, and every company is thinking about how they can add to all of the billions that is already spent in code. The same opportunity exists in every single category, whether that's gaming, entertainment, and creativity. This is an opportunity for us not just to focus on creative pros and communicators who've traditionally been the strength of this company, but to actually become that AI platform for all creativity across every single surface. The success that we've seen associated with what we have done on these new products, we talked about the MAU, we've talked about the ARR that's coming. We want to have a singular focus right now to make sure that we go capture that immense opportunity with a singular focus and a clear marketing message. It also is based on a complete confidence that the creative business is extremely stable, the amount of innovation that we have delivered in that space continues to make us a category of one as it relates to our focus on that particular market. So, that one we can defer, it's not going away, but anything that comes in the way of the company aligning and the market understanding that we're going to go after that entire creative opportunity right now will detract from what is the real price for this company. Hopefully that gives you some color. In terms of the impact on ARR, you can think of it as maybe half of the impact of ARR is a result of what we are doing around deferring that creative price line optimizations and the other half is about going full steam on what it takes to deliver the freemium experience.
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Analyst4:18
Appreciate the candor in those responses. Thanks, Shantanu.
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Shantanu Narayen4:21
Thanks, Michael.
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Operator4:23
And the next question comes from Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research.
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Alex Zukin4:30
Hey guys. Appreciate you taking my question and apologize for any background noise. Maybe just at the risk of redundancy or simplification, just why now to accelerate the freemium motion? I think before we were thinking that the previous messaging was that it could actually positively impact second half ARR, the freemium motion, and now it's turning into a headwind as they convert. So maybe just simplify why now is the right time and then I've got a quick follow.
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Shantanu Narayen5:05
Sure. I think you should think of it more in terms of does that early success that we're having across all of them give you confidence to actually go even more aggressively about this. That's how I think about this, Alex. In terms of why now, we all recognize that when you look at the traffic that's coming to the Adobe site, that traffic is just gushing. When we think about how we can capture that with a unique value proposition associated with delighting them and making sure we have a friction-free experience, anything that comes when we take a step back, we have built this incredible business, but it's a balanced business. We're always trying to figure out what we send to the premium and what we send to ARR. I think this singular clarity will enable us to capture way more people in the audience. The why now has more to do with the fact that we are seeing the success associated with what we've done, the products, whether it's Acrobat Express or Firefly, are there. The ability to support third-party models is there, and I'll let David add. So, it's really the success that we're seeing and the incredible amount of traffic that says if we don't take advantage of this opportunity right now, we will just unnecessarily diffuse it, and we will send people other places when they want to come, have that engagement with Adobe, and are looking for the Adobe brand and Adobe magic to help them solve their creativity needs. David.
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David Wadhwani6:34
Yeah, maybe Alex, I'll just add on a couple examples to what Shantanu was saying to demystify what we mean by user behavior changing and evolving. Let me give you one example with Acrobat and one example with creativity and Firefly to hopefully cement this a bit. What we see is a shift in or an emergence in terms of LLM usage, and that is driving a lot more intent-based search. So, what is an intent-based search? Someone might type into a search engine, 'Summarize this PDF.' What we do is we are using SEO and SEM and some of Anil's SEMrush capabilities now to make sure that we're ranking high when someone types in something like 'summarize PDF.' When the user clicks on our link, we take them directly into Acrobat web with a single call to action, which is upload your PDF, and then we summarize it for them. When we summarize it for them, we then introduce them to this idea that they can use AI Assistant to ask some questions. We use this process to let them build habit before we start giving them a paywall. That's an evolution. If we just took that traffic direct to a paid flow to buy Acrobat and download Acrobat, it wouldn't produce as much opportunity long-term for Adobe. Similarly, in Firefly, we see growth in terms like 'generate pixel art for social media posts.' Again, we rank really high in SEO and SEM and then we take them directly into Firefly so they can upload an image of themselves, create this pixelated version, maybe introduce them to the idea that you can convert that to video, but it's a very different flow. That's where the world is going. That's how users are engaging. We want to lean into that and we think, as Shantanu said, we have the right products for that now. So this is the moment to go for it.
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Shantanu Narayen8:25
Maybe the last thing I'll say to punctuate what David said is, not only are we seeing the MAU increase, but we're seeing the engagement increase as a result of serving that first experience because they're looking for Adobe. I think it's the satisfaction associated with completing their task that wants them to engage with Adobe more, and I see those signals that give us confidence that now is the time.
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Alex Zukin8:49
And then maybe just to follow up, if we think about the combination of that action that you described and the postponement of the line optimizations as driving roughly, I think by our math, about a half a billion dollar adjustment to the organic ARR download, what is the payback period on that? So that 500 million, let's say that you're investing in this motion, what is the payback period and multiple that you think you can get as a result of the successful strategy that you're embarking on?
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Shantanu Narayen9:26
Well, let me give you some color. On the second one first, the creative pro line optimizations, we can introduce them as we continue to deliver value. That one is just a phase shift, and as we add that, we believe that we're going to have better offerings that are more differentiated the more these premium offerings are successful. So, we look at it and say we're deferring it but not closing it. Hopefully that gives you some color. In terms of the traffic, if the disproportionate amount of traffic is going to go to these premium offerings, you're right about how that starts to come back. We're already seeing some of it as it relates to the amount that we have on Firefly. We shared some numbers on that as well as on Express, which are growing well, but that will play out over 2027. More important, I think it sets the company up for really growing our customer base, which like we've done with Reader, pays off for decades. Maybe the other thing to give color because I'm sure people will ask this question: as you think about how it plays out over the second half, the way to think about it is if you go back and look at our fiscal 24 or fiscal 25 results, you can understand whatever our second half ARR expectations are, they typically play out 40 and 60 in Q3 and Q4. Given we'll be making more of these changes in Q3 as it relates to changing the traffic patterns and we expect our seasonal enterprise strength, the enterprise and everything we're doing around content continues to be an area of strength for us. That will be perhaps a little bit more proportionately in Q4 than it was in the last few years. Hopefully that gives you both color on the line optimizations we can always introduce, but we wanted to be transparent with you. As it relates to the moving of the premium, hopefully we gave you a lot of indication as to why now, all of the early success that we're seeing. I just wanted to make sure you had color as to how that might play out in Q3 and Q4 as you do your modeling.
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Operator11:46
And once again, if you would like to signal with questions, please press star one on your touchtone telephone. Additionally, please limit yourself to one question. And we'll take our next question from Matt Swanson with RBC Capital Markets.
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Matt Swanson12:03
Great. Thank you guys so much for taking my question. Not to front run too much, but if we could focus a little bit on the brand visibility solution, kind of a broader idea of what Semrush brings to the Adobe platform. Could you just talk a little bit more holistically on how that fits into your broader portfolio and what the compounding benefit could be over time?
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Shantanu Narayen12:30
Thanks for the question, Matt. Brand visibility is a topic of huge interest to CMOs, as you just heard from David as well. We're seeing a lot of that play out in our own traffic patterns, and every brand across the world wants to have the right placement regardless of which LLMs consumers are using. They want to have the right message and they want to have their messages show up on LLMs, on social media, and all the other new platforms that consumers are going to. We believe that the best way to do that is to take their content that they have already within their content management system like Adobe Experience Manager and make sure it gets out there, whether it's the bots and the agents that these LLMs have or third-party sites which have credibility with these LLMs. Making sure that all the brand visibility shows up in the right places. That requires the integration of what Semrush brings, which is the outside-in knowledge of what is actually being prompted for, what's being searched for, and the database that they have of all the prompts and search queries, combined with the inside-out intelligence that we have with all the content. Marrying those two provides us the opportunity to bring the most comprehensive brand visibility solution in the market, and that's what we're introducing at Cannes later this month. We are super excited about that, and we believe this is going to be a must-have for every CMO.
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Matt Swanson13:56
Thank you.
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Operator13:58
And the next question will come from Brad Zelnick with Deutsche Bank.
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Brad Zelnick14:05
Oh great. Thank you so much for taking the question. Maybe on a different topic. We saw the announcement on the creativity connector with Google Gemini. Wondering how you're thinking about relationships with companies like Google that are seemingly developing their own design tools versus making Adobe innovations available in their apps, and more broadly, how are you thinking about competition, partnerships, and co-opetition in the age of AI?
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David Wadhwani14:31
Yeah, thanks for asking that question. I think we've made a lot of progress in terms of how we think about the evolution of a creative agent and productivity agent, and we also introduced a basic customer experience co-worker at Summit a couple of months ago. Overall, what we've done is we've taken all of our core capabilities in our creative flagship applications and used that to create a series of capabilities that are accessible to the endpoint. The creativity agent can now access 50 creative tools across our ecosystem, and that AI assistant is available in Firefly and to our Creative Cloud subscribers. But we've also taken that AI system, that creative agent, and made it available inside of both ChatGPT and Claude, with Copilot and Gemini coming very soon. That lets us go to where user experience and user intent actually initiate. If someone wants to do something with an AI assistant to create a logo, convert that logo to merchandise, and post that merchandise across social media networks, you can do all of that conversationally. In that context, if you have anything you want to do that goes beyond what you can do conversationally, we use that opportunity to journey them over to Firefly for a deeper, richer AI tooling experience. The whole end-to-end experience is about getting to users where they are, letting them do a lot more conversationally, reducing the bar to create more content, but also leveraging the opportunity to monetize them by converting them over to Firefly. The monetization model for these AI agents is similar in that it's about credit consumption, and we think it drives a lot more credit consumption and opportunity for upsell.
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Shantanu Narayen16:43
As it relates to your question on partnerships, maybe just add a couple more points. Firstly, you have to look at what the economic model is for a lot of these companies. Whether it's Amazon, Microsoft, or Google, we are huge users of their cloud services, which at the end of the day is a significant revenue stream for them. We have great partnerships with all three of them. With Google specifically, we also partner on how we can jointly go to media and entertainment. We are a big user of the Nano banana within our applications. There's a lot of synergy associated with that. With OpenAI and Anthropic, they are looking to become more of a platform of choice and provide us. I think all of their focus right now, Brad, is on code, and that's where everybody is doing a student body left on that. Creativity is an area that we not only have a passion for but we're uniquely qualified. This is our time and our opportunity to leverage everything that they are providing. With every one of them, we have a great partnership. But as it relates to the consumer side of creativity, which is where this is going, we are a company of one in terms of the focus that we can have on that particular business.
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Brad Zelnick18:10
Very helpful. Thank you both.
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Operator18:14
And the next question will come from Billy Fitzsimmons with Piper Sandler.
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Billy Fitzsimmons18:21
Hey guys, thanks for taking the question, fitting me in. I want to go back to the discussion earlier. There's a lot of debates right now around bots in software. If I think back to Summit, there's a big focus on what you're doing with AI agents internally. I think there's an important emphasis on your differentiation of having 20 years of customer relationships and proprietary data around that, as well as being that governance and honorability layer for agentic workflows. Can you just talk about the importance of that in the ecosystem? And then if I could sneak another one in, and to be honest, I don't really know who this is for at this point, but you announced a $25 billion share repurchase authorization at Summit. That's a significant chunk of your cap, but we're also in a more relaxed regulatory environment. How do we think about your ability and propensity to do tuck-in M&A in this environment? Thanks, guys.
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Shantanu Narayen19:22
Maybe I'll start with the second and then we can all touch on the first. We are all a team of one, so you can ask anybody that question, Billy, and we'll get the same answer. As it relates to the stock buyback, we had a $25 billion authorization previously. We added to that with another $25 billion authorization in April. Of the first authorization, if you look at it, there's $2 billion left, and we would have completed it in less than 11 quarters or so. We're clearly showing a lot of confidence that we should be using our capital allocation to buy back our stock. Marketo was a good acquisition. We're confident about our ability to monetize that. It further differentiates our marketing solutions, and I'll come to the marketing part. We are continuously looking at a whole bunch of companies. There's going to be some very interesting tuck-ins as it relates to technology because none of them have business models that are sustainable or monetizable. It is actually a good time for us to look at technology companies. As it relates to differentiation, we always talk about content and the fact that we have these behaviors and we have the data as a huge differentiator for us. There's a lot of talk about what's happening in the enterprise. The number of CEOs and CFOs who are coming to us and talking about their transformation, a big component of that transformation is customer experience and Adobe. You're the one who's going to help us with that in terms of both the content and the understanding of the customer. That's a huge differentiator. Our focus on that has separated us from anybody else in customer experience orchestration. On the creative pro, as I continue to say, our understanding of that customer base is unique. This is now about saying, 'How do we extend both of those into the consumer space in the era of AI?' That's how we look at it. Our ability to take the depth of our technology, whether it's in audio, video, or imaging, and bring that to Firefly, the speed and velocity by which we can bring it has a lot to do with the underlying technology code base and the understanding of behaviors. That's how I would describe our differentiation. Anybody who wants to create content and use it for marketing, that's Adobe.
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Operator22:01
And our next question will come from Kirk Materne with Evercore ISI.
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Kirk Materne22:08
Hi, yeah, thanks for taking the question. I guess this one's made for David. David, when we think about this push into freemium and changing that up a little bit, how do you get comfortable on the long-term economics in terms of the lifetime value? What are you seeing in terms of those customers going through a gestation period and then monetizing over a certain period of time? Can you shed some more color on that because I get the idea of adding a lot more new users to the platform, but just trying to get a sense on how you guys get comfort about the stickiness of those users after a certain period of time and the ultimate monetization opportunity. Thanks.
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David Wadhwani22:45
Yeah, happy to take that. The foundation of the press here really starts with understanding user intent and user behavior. As I mentioned in the example of that transition to increasing intent-based expression when they're searching, that gives us an opportunity to massively open up the top of funnel, which you're starting to see with the over 40% increase in traffic to adobe.com through those activities. If you think about the journey the user goes from searching directly to using our product, that results in higher engagement, which we see in our stats, and that starts to show in monthly active user growth. What we see on the back end of that when they convert to a paid user is they tend to have much higher engagement and usage patterns than those that go directly into paid, which translates into long-term lifetime value for the company. In terms of why now, again that question was asked earlier, why now because we see all the right signals. The product is there, we see the traffic is up 40% year-over-year, we see the strong usage of the product, we see that MAU is up 70% year-over-year. We even talked about how that has started to translate into ARR growth with 50% ARR growth quarter-over-quarter for Firefly. All of those early indicators are there, and what we're working to do as we bring more of that traffic over is that just needs time to play out. All of that in the backdrop of where the world is going, the opportunity is bigger than ever. Instead of trying to balance both things, we're going all in on this opportunity because it's ours to win. We have all of the foundation here.
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Operator24:43
And our next question will come from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
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Brent Thill24:50
Shantanu, one of the questions we get is just the reset for this next tectonic shift. I realize you're guiding margins down a bit, but I think many investors believe that you could be doing more and putting a much bigger moat investment in to protect yourself. I don't know if that view is right or wrong, but I'm curious why not be a little more severe in terms of the push and the pivot? You went through this for perpetual subscription and you obviously nailed it and had incredible results from that pivot. Maybe it's not the right analogy, but I think we're getting a lot of questions on that.
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Shantanu Narayen25:33
Yeah, I think Brent, this is actually an indication that we are really going to pivot, to use your words, into getting this acquisition of customers. Perhaps what's not as evident is under the surface how we're increasingly moving all of the expenses and spend that we have with scrutiny on just making sure that we find the money to spend. We will not be short-term focused on this, Brent, in terms of spending money to make sure we capitalize on the opportunity. We are spending on this and we will continue to, whether it's on the models, in marketing, or in the product associated with these. We do not intend to be short-term at all about this. As you point out correctly, Brent, this is not about balance. This is about saying, 'Hey, be clear about your strategic intent.' We are saying it's about becoming that platform of choice for AI right now. It is about getting those users to engage with Adobe and partner with Adobe. But be assured that as it relates to cloud spend, what we are doing on models, as well as what we are doing in marketing, we are spending the money. The good news is we get a lot of annual's products are relatively cheap in order to be able to use it. So our efficiency on that is probably better than anybody else in the industry.
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Brent Thill27:04
Thank you.
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Operator27:07
And moving on to Saket Kalia with Barclays.
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Saket Kalia27:13
Okay, great. Hey guys, thanks for taking the question here. Maybe for Shantanu and David, as I think about the original freemium business at Adobe, it's really Acrobat. I think the hope here is that some of your products like Express and Firefly can replicate that success. Maybe the question is can you just compare and contrast the next generation of freemium products in terms of what's similar, what's different than some of the really successful freemium businesses that we've built up over the years.
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David Wadhwani27:56
Yeah, thanks Saket. Happy to share a little bit about this for the broader context of folks that may not have been tracking us as long as you have. If you really take a step back, we've talked a lot about the Acrobat funnel as part of our data-driven operating model. The level of scrutiny and detail we understand around the breakup of when we talk about the 800 million monthly active users, many of them are on desktop reader, some are in our Chrome extension, some are in Microsoft Edge extension, some are on mobile devices. We're able to look at the utilization of all of that reader experience in those free experiences and understand the specifics of how users are engaging in each of those and look for the right opportunities in those surfaces to put up paywalls and opportunities to convert. We found in that process things like edit PDF or redact PDF inquiries are a great opportunity to take a user that's built up a habit using these products and convert them to a long-term paid customer. A lot of that same learning, that infrastructure that we have in place for Acrobat that we've developed over the years, that same infrastructure applies to everything we're doing with Express, with Firefly, with Acrobat AI Assistant. The foundation of how we're taking that 90 million of creative freemium now and converting that is identical. Maybe the difference that we see as an opportunity, and this goes back to why we're investing so heavily right now in going after where we see user behavior, is that that intent no longer just starts in the product. That intent now also starts as part of their search history and the things they're doing in search. The investment in terms of driving a broader percentage of that search directly into the same flows and the same model that we've done with Acrobat over the years, I think that's really the opportunity to fundamentally change and reshape this business for decades to come. Very excited about what we've learned and there's growth that we can apply to new experiences as well.
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Shantanu Narayen30:09
Maybe I'll just add a little bit to it, Saket, having been there for that journey. A lot of people may not remember that we actually tried to charge for the Acrobat Reader. Most customers told us, 'Hey, allow us to use it and you'll find different ways to monetize it.' In addition to what David said, I would add that what's common across all of these is product first and foremost, which is how do you get usage? In the Reader case, it was distribution. In this case, the new model is premium, and that's the underlying theory behind both of those: get the product right and get usage going because that's the way to monetize it. As it relates to the two other things that are learnings from what we will continue to do on Firefly, how we can expand from Firefly into Creative Cloud, we are doing a really great job of that. You try things in Firefly and you want to expand to Creative Cloud, that's pretty seamless. You want to start with Creative Cloud and have Firefly, that's also very seamless in terms of how much innovation we've delivered. It's slightly different with Acrobat Express, where it's a little bit more of paywalls in terms of how we're doing it. What would I look at when we see what we are doing? Usage is common, getting the product is common, and then making sure that at the appropriate times we find ways to add value and find ways to monetize it. I think that's the learning that we have. Since I believe that's the last question, let me just because I think the whole set of questions has really been around, as you think about this era of AI and what's happening with creativity, what gives you confidence associated with some of the things. I'll repeat what I said: we really think this is a unique opportunity for creativity with everything that's changing with AI and user behavior and user intent and how users discover products. Based on the early success, now's the time to have the singular focus in the company, get the alignment, and go really drive. The Creative Cloud business continues to do well. Tweaking it is not going to allow us to get the next hundreds of millions of customers. On the marketing side, enterprises, we just continue to extend the offerings that we have and tie together content between what we are doing on the client side and the enterprise. That entire economic pool, as Anil talked about in terms of how much money is being spent across content creation, marketing folks, practitioners, the agencies, as well as the channels, is only going to increase. The benefit of that economic pool is going to go to folks who can help automate that and provide technology and software to do that. That's why we feel really good about these changes and we feel this is the way to continue to drive. We're also pleased with what we have done as it relates to the conversion of ARR to revenue. That's why you've seen the overachievement. That speaks to the stability that we see in the ARR from customers. Thank you for joining us today, and for those of you who are going to be at Cannes, certainly stop by and see what Adobe has to offer. Otherwise, we'll see you at the next call. Thank you.
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Operator33:59
Thank you. That does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation. Have an excellent day.