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Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein & Mike Bloomberg Talk Small Businesses in America

🎥 Nov 10, 2016 📺 Bloomberg Originals ⏱ 52m 👁 11743 views
On Thursday, November 10, Goldman Sachs Chairman and CEO Lloyd C. Blankfein, former NYC Mayor and founder of Bloomberg L.P. and Bloomberg Philanthropies Michael Bloomberg, Rhode Island Governor Gina Raimondo and Thumbtack CEO Marco Zappacosta will lead a panel discussion on the role of small businesses in the economy at Bloomberg L.P. headquarters in New York. 10,000 Small Businesses graduates will participate in the discussion as part of a day-long mentorship and coaching session.
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About Michael Bloomberg

At the 25th anniversary of the Tribeca Festival, Michael Bloomberg reflected on the festival's role in revitalizing Lower Manhattan after the September 11 attacks. He stated that the "rebirth and revitalization of Lower Manhattan will be remembered as one of the greatest comeback stories in American history" and that "the arts can and must play a pivotal role in strengthening our city's spirit, our economy and our quality of life." At Bloomberg CityLab 2026 in Madrid, Bloomberg announced an additional $350 million commitment from Bloomberg Philanthropies to the Global Road Safety Initiative, with a goal of saving one million lives by 2030. He said that "the more national governments retreat from the world stage, the more important mayors become" and emphasized that "one city's success can spread to other cities and improve lives there, too." Bloomberg also discussed the launch of a Mayors AI Forum supported by the Bloomberg Center for Government Excellence at Johns Hopkins University and an expansion of global leadership programs in partnership with the London School of Economics and the Hertie School.

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Michael Bloomberg0:00
to a department store which was located on this property where this building is now and I bought a coffee pot and a small refrigerator and then I went looking for a supermarket so that I could get some coffee and milk to use those and it turns out there was no supermarket very close to this but anyways after that the next day we had four employees. One thing we did not have at the beginning was any customers, and so I'm sympathetic to those that are starting new businesses. Somebody once said you can always tell who the proprietor is at the end of the day: that's the woman or the man with the broom sweeping up after everybody else has gone home. And I will say it was an awful lot of fun, still is, but it was more fun at the very beginning where you're involved in everything and you just had that belief that it was going to work. In my experience, it took three years from when we started the company till we got our first customer. The first year was easy because she had enthusiasm; the last year was easy because you could tell that the light at the end of the tunnel was not a train coming towards you, it was really the light, this was going to work. The middle year was a little bit more complex, and that's when your family says to you, 'Well, I know you're going to do it, I know it's going to work, we have enormous confidence in you, but just in case, don't you want to take a job on the side, do this part-time?' and that sort of thing. And that's where it was tough. And I think in some senses what kept me going was I just didn't want to admit that it wasn't going to work. And so whether I thought it was going to work deep down inside, I don't know. I've never let my mind dwell on bad things. And there's one piece of advice I can give you: it's to do that, and not just in your business but in life. Don't worry about it. If there's a bad thing, get it out of your mind. If somebody comes up and smacks you right in the face, and then you feel you admit to the pain and you start screaming back, they've won twice. Don't let anybody win twice. Just suck it up, get on with it, and believe that it's going to work. Now, sometimes it doesn't work, and then you got to recover and say, 'Let's go out and do it again,' and that's fine. That's the great American dream in this country. It's one of the real differences between us and other countries: here, failure isn't failure, it's a step, it's a process, it's a learning experience. And people here today, isn't it so wonderful? 'My son or my daughter, they're on their fourth company, the first three didn't work, but they're...' and that's okay. And then you go elsewhere and one failure you're for life, and that's why more innovation takes place in America, I think, than any place else. I did want to extend a welcome to all the small business owners joining us from around the country. There is one company, it's not a small business anymore, happens to be a good customer, Bloomberg, not as big as it should be, but nevertheless, Lloyd Blankfein, whose idea this was. Lloyd and I have many things in common. We're both 6'2". It's not funny, folks. But let me tell you this, going to embarrass Lloyd, you shouldn't embarrass your customers, but I'm going to do it anyways. My first job, the first job offer I had was from Goldman Sachs and I turned them down to go to Salomon Brothers. Lloyd Blankfein was never offered a job by Goldman Sachs, even though he tried. That's a true story. He went to work, he couldn't get in, he went to work for another company, J. Aron, and that was bought by Goldman, and that's how he got into the company. Now he wound up running it, so in the end, living well is the best revenge. But nevertheless, and Dina Powell, Katherine Jalan, and Jessica Taylor, a Bloomberg administration alum, and the rest of the team at Goldman Sachs, so thank to all of you. They really have done a great job at creating and running this program, and I am glad to serve as co-chair of the advisory board. Also, in addition to Lloyd on the stage, one of the great governors in this country, the governor of Rhode Island, Gina Raimondo. She is somebody I was glad to, we were glad to support from the very beginning. We had faith in her, we thought she was going to win, we thought she'd be a great governor and do wonderful things for Rhode Island, a state that has lots of challenges like all states do, and she really has. And Bloomberg Philanthropies has been honored to work with her on a number of new programs, and we're working again together in this one. We're also glad to have with us Marco Zappacosta, the CEO of Thumbtack. His business is connecting people with workers who have the skills they need, and that's really something to understand. It's worth remembering that small businesses account for a majority of American jobs, and they really are the engines of innovation and the backbone of our economy. Most big companies, not all, but most, did start out as small companies, and so that's the incubator. If we stop that incubator, we're not going to have a future. We have every reason to help them grow, and today's a chance to do that by addressing some of the common concerns facing small businesses, from organization planning to marketing to attracting talent. We did a lot of this kind of work with our administration in City Hall; it helped us create a record number of jobs in New York City, and it's the kind of work that we have to do more across this whole country. So I want to thank the Bloomberg and Goldman employees who have taken time to volunteer here today. We really appreciate your time and your effort. A special thanks to Nanette Smith in the back there, Nanette, wave your hand. She and the philanthropies engagement team here at Bloomberg, which are helping coach the session, have been great partners with the people from Goldman Sachs who've been doing this around the country and around the world. It's a great program. I thought it's a very innovative thing. It's not one of these things that you do just to get some press. Goldman's really making a difference in our country and in our world by helping people get going, and the impact of what Goldman is doing will go on for a very long time, as some of these companies will decades from now be the big companies of the world. We have a video which we want to show you, show you what we've accomplished together. Take a look at the video, and after that we are going to have a panel with, we will all say very insightful things, gems that you should write down and remember. Thank you.
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Gina Raimondo7:32
The backbone of Rhode Island's economy are small businesses, and we can't do enough to give them a hand, to help them write a business plan, to help them think about how to market, to give them capital, a small loan. I'm really excited that 10,000 Small Businesses is choosing Rhode Island as the first statewide partner, and it's all part of our plan for continued economic growth, economic resurgence, and that's what this program offers. Our guiding principle in this country is equality of opportunity. 10,000 Small Businesses is a big part of that.
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Peter DeStefano8:16
I'm Peter DeStefano, the owner of DeStefano Brothers Construction. We are a design-build remodeling company in South Kingston, Rhode Island. What I enjoy most about being a small business owner is hiring people, working with people, helping homeowners create their dream and bringing that to life for them. Some of the challenges that I faced as a small business owner were not really understanding how to run a business. We struggled with finances, understanding our numbers, really being able to forecast ahead in the future to see what that was going to look like for us. Since graduating from Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses program, our business has changed tremendously. We have two locations now, we have a fleet of trucks, our revenue has gone up 180% in two years, we've been able to bring on 13 more people. What I enjoy most about being a small business owner in Rhode Island is making a difference. It's easy to make a difference by hiring, and any community that we work in, we try to make a positive change one way or another. Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses gives people the opportunity to get over that initial hump, prove themselves, create a reputation, or get the knowledge to survive and thrive. I think it's wonderful that Goldman Sachs is doing this because small businesses are what ties together neighborhoods. It is a very big part of society. I never feel better about the prospects of the United States than when I hear a small business person describe their business opportunity, their commitment, and when you see that, you begin to be very, very secure that the American dream was secure for another generation.
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Alex Steel10:41
I'll pick it up from here. I'm Alex Steel, I work in TV here at Bloomberg on the morning show. I have to say it's great to be here. The energy here is quite electric, I don't know if all of you can feel it. It has been a really challenging 24 hours for the country, and I think that none of us have slept in the last 48, so it's so great, there's so much positive energy in here and that's so nice to be a part of. So to kick it off, I wanted to have all the small business owners kind of stand up, introduce themselves, and I personally would love to hear the one thing that you kind of really want to address today from your panels. We can kick it off with Michelle, I think is going to go first, and flick on your mic when you stand up.
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Roy Castro11:17
Hello, Michelle? No, okay, you have your own order. Okay, your own order, you go. Sure. Good morning everyone, my name is Roy Castro, I am the CEO of DNM Ice Cream. I am an ice cream distribution company based out of Long Island City, New York. During the program, I focused on developing a new product line that will help offset my off-season by strengthening the company with this new product line. I am proud to say that I have grown revenues up to $1.8 million today. During the joining my coaching team, I am looking forward to getting advice on business development. Thank you very much.
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Grant12:03
Good morning everyone, I'm Grant, CE Solutions. We're located in Queens, New York, and we qualify individuals and organizations. During the program, we focused on changing organizational culture. Since graduating the program, our business has grown 25% in people, and I'm looking for advice from my coaches on finance.
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Lori Cole12:35
Hi, I'm Lori Cole from The Elevator Consultants, based in Chicago. We provide buildings with elevator consulting services, solutions, and software. At the end, we impact operational efficiency 100% of the time in every single engagement we do. During the Goldman Sachs program, we increased revenues by over 200%. During this program today, what I'm really hoping to do is take our Internet of Things software from just being elevators to focusing on other building operations in the mechanical rooms.
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Christine Kine13:12
Good morning, I'm Christine Kine, CEO of Higher Image, headquartered in Johnston, Rhode Island. Happy to be here today. We're a background and drug screening company, and we're one of less than 5% of all companies to earn industry accreditation. During the 10KSB program, my growth plan focused on increasing my suite of services to the financial services sector. We're still in our early stages of that growth plan as a recent graduate, but we're hoping to grow our sales from just 25% in that market, and I'm looking forward today to my coaches helping me to develop and implement a best-in-class sales team.
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Enrique Torres13:49
Good morning everyone, my name is Enrique Torres, I'm the president of Excellent Fruit and Produce, a produce distribution company that delivers to restaurants, hotels, hospitals in South Florida. This initiative led me to implement accountability measures which reduced our mistakes and increased our quality. Since the program, our revenues have more than doubled. Today we stand at $4.5 million, so I seek advice on how to transition into an impending expansion plan.
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Jess Sanchez McClary14:22
Good morning, my name is Jess Sanchez McClary, and my company is McClary Brothers, and we manufacture a drinking, a colonial-era cocktail or soda mixer in Detroit. After finishing the program, I grew our company from being served or sold in just 60 locations. I took the skills that I learned and pitched my business on ABC's Shark Tank, and today we're served or sold in over a thousand locations in 27 states, and we've grown to be the largest company in our category in the country. Today I'm hoping to get some advice from my coaches on financial modeling.
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Michael Pacis14:57
My name is Michael Pacis. I built the Pacis Brewing Company in Dallas, Texas just over four years ago, and in that first year I was the brewery's only brewer, seller, representative, and distributor. I'm excited today to gain insight on staffing structure to support growth. My prior participation in the program not only resulted in revenue growing by 40% and a 20% employee growth rate, but it provided the tools to build a solid foundation for our crew of honest, friendly, down-to-earth brewers to deliver world-class passion and class.
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Joe Spencer15:35
Good morning everyone, my name is Joe Spencer, I'm president of Louisiana Creole Gumbo restaurant in Detroit. Our restaurant specializes in Creole foods, and we are a true taste of New Orleans here in Detroit. Since graduating from the Goldman Sachs program, my business has grown by 40%, we've added 14 new employees, we've opened a new store, and for the first time we surpassed $1 million in annual sales. I'm here today looking for help in our human resource development for the future growth that we see for our company. Thank you very much.
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Hen Rus16:09
Good morning, my name is Hen Rus, and I'm the CEO and executive chef of Bachan All Fine Wine and Spirits. We are New Orleans's backyard wine party. During the Goldman Sachs program, we focused on streamlining our processes, and that led to a 100% increase in our profits. Today I'm looking for advice on financial modeling to become the nation's backyard wine party.
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Quincy Roberts16:37
Good morning, my name is Quincy Roberts, I'm president of Roberts Trucking, located in Dallas, Texas. Roberts Trucking provides hauling services for the construction industry. During the program, I focused on gaining access to capital to expand our company's fleet. Since then, we have grown our revenues from $7 million to $10 million annually and now employ upwards of 285 persons. Today I'm looking forward to working with my coaching team on implementing technology to make our business processes more efficient.
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Mike Bilu18:20
Good morning, my name is Mike Bilu, owner of IIO Environmental and Infrastructure, a disabled vet environmental remediation construction firm. Since graduating Goldman Sachs, we doubled our revenue to $12 million, added two new offices nationwide, and added 22 new employees while maintaining a 40% veteran workforce. I'm here today with Goldman Sachs to help increase our profitability.
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Michelle Goar18:46
Good morning, I'm Michelle Goar, and I'm president of Signs Now, located in downtown New Orleans. We produce larger-than-life graphics for major sporting events like the NFL Super Bowl. While in the 10KSB program, we really focused on streamlining our production processes, and in doing so we were able to reduce our cost of goods sold and increase our bottom line profitability. While here today working with our coaches, I'm really looking forward to being able to build a motivated, sustainable sales team. Thank you.
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Charles Smith19:23
My name is Charles Smith, I'm the CEO of CS Insurance Strategies, based in Chicago, Illinois. During the program, we focused on my health method, which is a health and wellness company that leads to population health visibility. Since the program, we've grown over 200%, and I was named to Chicago Crain's Top 40 Under 40. What I'd like to achieve today is rebranding our company and our new approach to what we consider the next trillion-dollar industry. Thank you.
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Alex Steel19:52
Great, wow, that was really impressive. I'm pretty inspired. Okay, so I want to start with you, Lloyd. We heard some incredible numbers from people, I mean growing revenue by 900%. You're not going to hear that from me, and I won't ask you. What about the program do you feel works really well?
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Lloyd Blankfein20:11
Well, I think, first of all, I have to admit we start with terrific people. And then we give them some tools, but we don't create these people, these people are created themselves. But it just goes to show what a core of energy and intelligence and commitment that there is, but people lack basic things, like fundamental skills. You know, people talk about financial modeling or negotiation skills, business planning that we take for granted, and we help people not gain confidence but gain confidence from the real content that they get in learning how to do these things. And then of course other things, in some cases like capital, how to apply for loans. Again, modeling: what is financial modeling? If I pay for this refrigerator, how long does it take, what do I have to charge, and how long will it take me to get paid back for that investment in my restaurant and things like that. And so you know, we add a lot around the edges. The basic core is already there, but that little bit that you add around the edges is the tipping point between whether somebody takes a risk or doesn't, makes a higher or doesn't, or succeeds or not.
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Alex Steel21:22
You think it's easy to teach that?
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Lloyd Blankfein21:23
I think it's not easy to teach the passion and the commitment and the core, which is why we are very, very careful in the selection process. In other words, we're not taking people with a blank sheet of paper. We start with people who already have been in business, have a certain threshold of revenue and time in their job, because we know we can't teach that. But these other elements, of course, you can teach.
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Alex Steel21:49
Governor Rhode Island, you got about $10 million from the small business fund, it's sort of the first of its kind. Why did that work out? Where did that come about?
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Gina Raimondo21:59
Well, I had heard about the program and, being a former entrepreneur and investor myself, I said I want this in Rhode Island. And I reached out to some friends of mine at Goldman, including John Rogers. I said, 'I want this program in Rhode Island.' He said, 'Well, Governor, this is a program for cities.' I said, 'Well, come on, Rhode Island's a city-state, do it in Rhode Island.' And so thank you, you've done it. It's a huge program, $10 million investment statewide. We're halfway through our first class now. By the way, something that thrills me: more than half of the small businesses in our first class are women-owned businesses, and more than a third are minority-owned businesses. And I love that. This is about making sure everybody has an opportunity. But what I have found, and why I was so eager to have this program, is if you, most entrepreneurs I know in these small businesses, as Lloyd said, they have passion, but they typically have passion for the thing they love. Maybe that is cooking or jewelry or leather goods or you're an architect, but chances are they're not great at financial skills, how to scale a business, how to hire, how to recruit, how to retain people. And so why am I doing this? Because I want to take these folks with this passion, and if they grow their businesses, that grows my economy. Most people in Rhode Island work in a small business, so it is by far the lifeblood of our economy. So if every one of these companies that goes through this program adds 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 jobs, that is a meaningful improvement in our economy.
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Alex Steel23:42
Well, what kind of demand have you noticed?
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Gina Raimondo23:44
Huge demand. We were oversubscribed for our first class. As Lloyd said, it's a competitive process, so we had to screen out a number of companies, but we're gearing up for the next class and I expect it to be even further oversubscribed. And I'm behind it. I mean, this is, I've put our community college very much involved in this. This is a core piece of my economic development effort. I can't wait for our first graduation. I'm very excited for that. So we're going to make it a success, and it's going to be good for Rhode Island and good for our economy.
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Alex Steel24:18
Mike, President Trump has said he wants to create 25 million jobs. Can you help quantify how much of that needs to come from small business, just how important that is to the overall economy?
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Michael Bloomberg24:28
Well, we always talk about big government, but government is a very tiny percentage of where people work. They work in the private industry. Big companies started as small. Half the people in the country who work in the private sector do work for small companies. Small companies are constantly turning over as the world changes. Some of them merge, some of them keep growing, some of them sadly go out of business. Small businesses really are the intersection of where people spend their money. It's where the rubber meets the road. They can't fake it, you've got to really have a product. I've looked even at our company, Peter Grauer, who's along with Tom Secunda, has been running our company here. If you listen to them, they keep talking about we've got to have product and we've got to service our customers, and that's what everybody's got to do. And if you do that, you're going to keep creating jobs. I don't think there's any federal program that can create an enormous number of jobs, the kind of numbers that we really need in this country. It's going to have to be done by the private sector. Government has limited abilities to help small businesses. Generally, what governments do, you can argue they get in the way, they tax them. Well, we have to do that because we want to be able to have schools and hospitals and security and that sort of thing, but that is an impediment to growth. So if you can get taxes down, that helps. They tend to give you a lot of bureaucratic stuff. We do want to have licensing and tests and requirements and safety for the public to make sure people don't sell products or do things that are damaging, but it is an impediment. We've got to find ways to have government that is intelligent, tries to do its job, but at the same time understands that the solution is on the private side. And I think we've got to get away from the thought that there's something wrong with capitalism. We've, one of the problems we have in this country today is we've stopped teaching history. And I've always thought that the Bernie Sanders phenomenon, people said, 'Yeah, yeah, democratic socialism, that sounds good. It's democratic and that's socialism.' That's social media stuff, you know. We've got to have our children look to role models both in the public sector and in the private sector. And in the end, most of the heroes are going to be in the private sector. And I just wanted to take this opportunity to say the creativity that Goldman showed with this, and the great thing that would happen would be with places like Rhode Island copy it and start doing their own things. It's leverage that you really need to make this country work.
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Alex Steel27:04
And Marco, that's a perfect introduction to you. You know, you're in the trenches, you've been there, but you still always need to expand, right? What do you need to see from a new administration or any administration that's really going to help you take you to the next level?
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Marco Zappacosta27:18
So first off, thanks for having me. We are huge fans of this program as your least distinguished panelist. I was most recently in your shoes, and I'm jealous that you have the resources of this Goldman Sachs program to learn and fill in all the knowledge gaps that we all had when we were starting. But to your question around what do we want to see the administration do, I just want to see them put small business front and center. We are based in Silicon Valley, we're a technology company that empowers small business to find customers online, and something that we are often frustrated by is that the debate that happens in Washington and more broadly is often about big business. It's about big technology companies, it's about big established enterprises, and that's fine, and we should certainly talk about them, but we want to make sure that we give voice to the millions and millions of small businesses that are out there. And that's something that we've tried to do, and we hope that the administration listens. And we have examples of that. In fact, the state of Rhode Island, we put out a survey of our small businesses every year, and the state of Rhode Island was one of the few states to invite us in and help sort of listen and learn about what our collection of small businesses from the state had said, such that they could think harder about what they were working on to make sure that they were serving these small businesses well. So we would love to have that dialogue at every level, and we just hope that they keep small business front and center.
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Alex Steel28:40
I wanted to go through some of the challenges that in the survey sort of cropped up, and Marco, I just want to touch on something that's access to capital. Can you talk me through what your experience was like with access to capital?
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Marco Zappacosta28:52
Yeah, so it's like an umbrella for a sunny day, right? When you need it, it's never there. And that's a very frustrating phenomenon. In fact, Thumbtack almost died in the fall of 2011 when we went out to raise our first sort of real bit of fundraising from institutional investors, and we didn't know how to do it. And we really struggled. We got 42 nos and one and a half yeses. Obviously the one and a half came at the very end, otherwise we would not have talked to everybody. But it was formative in the business, and I think the benefit that we got from that is really forged the DNA of the business in that we were mission-driven and we were very sort of oriented around making this thing happen. And I'm sure, and I mean all the stories that you guys said, you guys are hustlers, and finding money is just one of the ingredients that you need to be successful. It's the people, it's your customers, it's your product, it's your brand, and the money is the lifeblood too. So it's just one more of the struggles to make it all work.
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Alex Steel29:53
And Lloyd has the money, he has the checkbook. So Goldman Sachs started Marcus, really kind of cater to consumer loans and such. What kind of demand do you see, and is there anything that stands in the way of Goldman Sachs giving the kind of loans that they want to give?
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Lloyd Blankfein30:09
Well, Marcus, which is a consumer loan company, that's, you know, we also are a bank, and so we're lending money. We lend money to consumers. The financing for businesses like this, look, it is hard. Frankly, it should be hard. You have to get over a threshold. There's a screening element that goes into this, and it's a self-selection too. You know, I talk about passion, those are just idle words and concepts. Where the rubber meets the road is where people kill themselves to get the dough. Having said that, it shouldn't be difficult, but it shouldn't be impossible. And when you think of the resources in this country that go into financing bigger business and the instrumentalities of that, there's very, very little bit set aside for small business. And then this goes to the mayor's point about bureaucracy. You know, when you grapple with a Small Business Administration, you need to be a large business to fill out the forms in a lot of cases. And so the bureaucracy, when we survey our own small business owners, aside from getting good people and access to capital, the thing that's most cited is bureaucracy and regulation. And so, as we always do, we take advantage of our partners, and so we've partnered with some CDFIs, Community Financial Institutions. We've provided them some funding, we've kind of hinted to others that they can also help provide some funding to these things, and through that instrumentality, through that spigot, we've tried to provide access a little bit easier access to capital, and especially to favor the people who've gone through our program, which we've argued are in a better position to take advantage of that capital and use it well.
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Alex Steel31:52
Well, and Governor, it leads me to you. Access to capital is one part, the other is finding skilled labor. Like 70% of respondents said they just can't find the right workers for the job. How do you deal with that as governor of a state?
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Gina Raimondo32:02
So that is an area where government, I think, can play an important role, although I agree with what the mayor said: there's no one thing. It's lower taxes, a streamlined regulatory environment, good infrastructure, honest government. But on the skills piece of it, government has a huge role to play. It means making sure our public schools work. I've said everyone should graduate high school ready for college or ready for career. One thing that I'm very proud of that we've just started to do in Rhode Island is, starting in the fall, we will be one of the first states in the country to teach computer science in every public school in every grade, starting in kindergarten, K through 12, because it's an essential skill. Digital literacy is an essential skill. We've also rolled out a program so every high school student in a public high school can take college classes for free while they're in high school. And just a lot more with our community college partnering with industry. It is more important than ever.
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Alex Steel33:07
In what way do you partner with the industry?
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Gina Raimondo33:09
Basically, I've done a lot of this just calling industry and saying, 'What skills do you need?' So I'll give you a great example. Electric Boat is a huge employer in Rhode Island, it's one of our most important employers. They make the best submarines in the world, made in Rhode Island, thousands and thousands of employees. Electric Boat sounds so cute, submarines are scary, one of these, right? Exactly. So early on in my tenure as governor, I think like the first or second day I was in the office, I was reaching out to as many businesses as I could. I called the senior guys at Electric Boat, I said, 'What do you need?' And they said, 'Hey, Gov, we got a problem here. We need to hire 4,000 people, and we're happy to do it in Rhode Island, but only if you can give us the welders we need and this we need and that we need.' So we set up a special program in our community college specifically to fulfill their demands. And that's just one example. We are going, and it's working, it's absolutely working. They're hiring, those people are doing it. We're doing a similar thing with CVS with IT, healthcare IT employees. So I think you got to first figure out where's the demand, and then re-engineer your workforce system to fulfill that demand.
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Alex Steel34:19
And now, last question goes to you, Mike. We're going to break off into individual panels, that takes a while, like that's not an overnight fix. And you've been sort of front and center, Mike, as well with sort of programs to help fill any kind of skill gap. Can you talk us through what you found that seems to work well?
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Michael Bloomberg34:31
Alex, I think there are probably more open jobs than there are people looking for work by a lot. This mismatch between skill sets is something that has come out of a dumbing down of our public school system across the country. We used to be in the top 10, now we're in the top 50. It is coming from a misguided effort starting in the 60s where the zeitgeist was you have to get everybody ready for college. If they're not going to go to college, they're not going to have a career. I don't know how to break this to you, but if you have two children and one starts out going to become a welder and one starts out going to Harvard College, the Harvard kid will never catch up to the welder. Depend on the welder kid to support your family, because she or he is going to have a job. What always strikes me when I go to these fairs and you talk to, and you are at these innovation programs, and you talk to the people who are gathered around a screen and you say, 'What'd you do? What'd you build?' 'Oh, we built a great app, it lets you lock and unlock your garage door from 3,000 miles away.' And that just tells you, you got to understand that the laws of supply and demand are, if you're going to get the two together, they have to match someplace. And so what we've got to do is make sure we have vocational training in the schools, because it's very hard to outsource a plumbing job to another country. You don't have to have perfect command of the English language. What really is important is hard work. And I think that if there's one message I can give you, your businesses will be successful if you can attract and keep and engage people who have ideas and aren't afraid to tell you that, to explain that the idea you have isn't the best, maybe there's something better. And if so, you got to listen and you got to engage people. Nobody does anything that I can think of by themselves. Even an author doesn't work by herself, he, they have to work with publishers and editors and lots of other things. And so we've got to start focusing on making sure that our children are getting the kind of education that they're going to need for the world of the future, which is more technological. But also we've got to find ways to take people who are out there long past their ability to go to school, middle-aged people who are going to need jobs, and help them get to the right places and do the right things. And it's very hard. That's the cohort that is the most difficult to retrain. Very hard to go back to school when you're in your 50s, and it's very hard looking at your end of life saying, 'Wait a second, nobody's going to employ me after I'm 60, 65, or 70.' Sounds young to me. And yet I'm going to live to my 80s or 90s, and as people start living longer, we've got to figure out how they're going to be able to support themselves. Living on Social Security does not give people a warm fuzzy feeling. It doesn't let you live very well, doesn't let you live the lifestyle you've had while you work. And so that's the conundrum, and that's where government can really do some things. And I'm not a big advocate, I don't believe the federal government's going to do a very good job. I think it's the state governments that are going to really make a difference there, and the cities that are going to make a difference there, because that's where they understand what the jobs are. They don't just deal in position papers, they deal in going and talking to people. That governor walks down the street and somebody comes up and says, 'I don't have a job, you got to do something for me.' The president of the United States doesn't get to meet people who say, 'I've got to have a job.' There's just a disconnect at the federal level that does not exist at the government level, and certainly at the governor's level, and certainly doesn't exist at the city's level.
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Alex Steel38:14
Well, guys, thanks so much. We do have to break. I want to get you all to your panels. Dr. Green, you're going to take it from here. But thank you so much, it was a real pleasure to talk to you guys today, and good luck to all the small business owners. Next time, bring ice cream.
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Michael Bloomberg38:25
Thank you very much.
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Unknown38:40
Thank you so much, pleasure to meet you. Thanks, yeah, grab the governor. Yep, yep, let me take my mic off, hold on. How'd everything go? Great. Was really for the coaching teams again, you won't be surprised that there will be some of us floating throughout the day. We'll just be floating in, floating out silently just to check and see, make sure that you don't really need anything. Also for the coaching teams, there were probably a few of you that were not able to be there last night, so if the team will first start off by recapping what we did last night and then just catch everybody up and go from there. So is everybody ready? Okay, we're going to dismiss very orderly. We're going to call out where you're going, who's looking for you, and they will escort you down to your room. So first off, for Higher Image, if you'll exit and look for Becca. Excellent Fruit and Produce, look for Sarah. And McClary Brothers, look for Lauren. Everybody else, hang on for a moment.
Hey, Dina, hi.
Okay, next group: Elevator Consultants, please look for Mia. Pacis Brewing Company, Sabina. And LCG Foods, please find Molly.
Talk amongst yourselves. Okay, next group: Bachan All Fine Wine and Spirits, please look for Chelsea. And Our Staffing, please look for Peyton.
Okay, all right, next group: DNM Ice Cream, please go for Molly. And Roberts Trucking, Nina. Have a good day, thank you.
All right, Patricia, Jiden Cleaning, ready? You will go with Sarah. Sarah, yep, Sarah S., Sarah's waving back there. Pop Art Snacks, if you would please go with Laura. Luc, Laura's over here. Hi. Jane. Okay, CS Insurance Strategies, you are going with Reena. And where is Reena? Okay, Signs Now, the shadow, shadow, right, and very funny, Mike. I owe environmental infrastructure, you're going with Mike. Mike, not this Mike, this Mike is pretty great too. Have a good time.
Hello, good to see you. This is the last one I get to see you at, right? Are you still retiring? Retire? What? My heart.