About Mohammed El-erian
Mohamed El-Erian, chief economic advisor at Allianz and a professor at the Wharton School, has appeared on CNBC multiple times in recent months to discuss the economic impact of geopolitical conflicts, inflation, and Federal Reserve policy. He stated that the U.S. economy has so far avoided "demand destruction" from the Middle East war, but warned that the next phase of the shock would involve affordability issues severe enough to reduce consumer spending. He described the current economic environment as having four phases: higher energy prices, broader inflation, demand destruction, and potential financial instability. El-Erian said he is "really worried" about the UK, noting that the 10-year yield above 5% is "crippling for mortgages and for businesses" and makes government debt more explosive.
Regarding the Federal Reserve, El-Erian said he expects the Fed to "sit on their hands" and not cut rates for most of the year, and that a rate hike is more likely than a cut. He suggested the Fed is tolerating a 3% inflation target rather than 2%, as long as inflation expectations remain stable. On Fed Chair nominee Kevin Warsh, El-Erian said he believes Warsh will "err on the side of lowering rates earlier" than the current Fed would, citing Warsh's belief in the productivity enhancement of AI. El-Erian also expressed concern about the volume of funding needed from capital markets, citing large IPOs, government deficits, and corporate borrowing for AI investment, and said he cannot identify where all the money will come from, predicting it will push borrowing costs higher.
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Mohamed El-Erian0:00
The marketplace thinks it is whether to cut 25, 50 or 75 in September. That is what the marketplace thinks. I would bring you to the end of this month in Jackson Hole. He has a golden opportunity to regain control of the policy narrative. And to do that, he has to take some risk in laying out what he thinks the neutral interest rate is in discussing, like the Bank of England has discussed, what structural changes are happening to the domestic economy and to the global economy. So for me, his decision is actually at Jackson Hole. Whether he just gives a mail-in speech or whether he tries to regain control of the policy now.
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Interviewer0:46
Mohamed, we're going to get the surveillance Gulfstream out to get you to Jackson Hole for our coverage. Lisa Brammertz and I will be in Jackson Hole. With that said, Mohammed, the heart of the matters you mentioned Bowie and particularly Lagarde's ECB, and she gave a speech last year at... excuse me, she wrote a paper last year at Jackson Hole on this. Mohamed, we're addicted. We're in a Greenspan in measured cadence. Does that fit the events right now or does Powell have to elucidate Jackson Hole that we can lose measured and be more ad hoc, more unmeasured in our policy?
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Mohamed El-Erian1:17
So it's really interesting because I think the Fed, being so excessively data dependent, has been actually quite ad hoc. The amount of pivots in the forward guidance we've had over the last 12 months is enormous. You know, I actually have a slide that shows every pivot, and that's a problem because if you allow data to swing you so much, then you become an amplifier of market volatility rather than a stabilizer. So I think they need to be less ad hoc, less so data dependent and have the courage to be strategic, have courage to say this is where we think the economy is going. I understand why they're not doing that. They tried it in 2021 with the famous transitory inflation call. They made a horrible mistake. And because of that, they've shied away. But that's what a central bank is supposed to do. That is what Greenspan did. That is what Bernanke did. That is what Yellen did. And I think it's important for this Fed to be not just data dependent, but also to have a forward looking view of the economy.
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Interviewer2:36
That's a great point, Mohamed, because a lot of folks that we speak to both in academia and in practice say they're not looking at the right data. They're not looking at the real time data. If they were looking at the real time data, they would realize that the economy is in fact slowing, that inflation is in fact under control and that they should be cutting rates right now. Do you go that far?
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Mohamed El-Erian2:55
That's why I... I called for a cut last week. I've been arguing for the last three months that the US economy is slowing much faster than most people anticipate. Why? Because in addition to the data I've been listening to the companies, I've been listening to what they're telling us about what they're seeing in terms of demand. They should have cut in July. They didn't. That was a mistake. They can still regain control of the narrative, but it is doing some really hard work that they need to do and having the courage to share it with the rest of us.
