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Co-Founder, Technoking of Tesla, Chief Executive Officer & Director, Tesla

Joe Rogan & Elon Musk: I Chanted Mantras to Focus, But ?

🎥 May 07, 2020 📺 Journey With The Mystics ⏱ 4m
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Elon Musk recently oversaw SpaceX’s public listing on the Nasdaq on June 12, 2026, which he said was the largest initial public offering in the history of capital markets. During the event, Musk stated that he had originally given SpaceX “less than a 10% chance of succeeding at all” and recalled telling people, “Look, we’re probably going to fail, but you know, we should give it a try because if we don’t… we will never be a truly spacefaring civilization.” He described SpaceX’s mission as “to take the fiction out of science fiction” and said the company aims to make humanity multi-planetary, adding, “We want to be able to take anyone who wants to go to the moon, anyone who wants to go to Mars… not just a few astronauts.” The IPO was widely reported to have made Musk the world’s first trillionaire. In addition to the IPO, Musk discussed SpaceX’s plans to build AI satellites and space-based data centers. In an interview with SpaceX employees in Bastrop, Texas, he said that the company’s AI satellite is “actually much simpler than a Starlink satellite” and noted that the current reference design calls for Nvidia Rubin chips. He also spoke about a “terrafab” facility that he said would be approximately 100 million square feet, roughly 10 times the size of Tesla’s Gigafactory Texas, and discussed using a mass driver on the moon to launch materials into deep space. Separately, Musk oversaw the final delivery of Tesla’s Model S and Model X vehicles, which he called a “bittersweet moment,” emphasizing that those cars “showed that an electric car could actually be the best car of any period.”

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Transcript (31 segments)
✨ AI-enhanced transcript with speaker attribution
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Interviewer0:00
There was a time where I think it was Ramdas or someone gave some Buddhist monk a bunch of acid.
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Elon Musk0:06
Okay.
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Interviewer0:06
And he ate it and it had no effect on him.
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Elon Musk0:10
I doubt that.
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Interviewer0:11
I would say that too, but I've never meditated to the level that some of these people have where they're constantly meditating all day. They don't have any material possessions and all of their energy is spent trying to achieve a certain mindset. I would like to cynically deny that. I'd like to cynically say they just think the same way I do, they just hang out with flip-flops on and make weird noises, but maybe no.
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Elon Musk0:38
You know, I know a lot of people like weed and that's fine, but I don't find that it is very good for productivity.
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Interviewer0:46
For you. Not for me. Yeah, I would imagine that for someone like you it would be more like a cup of coffee, right? You want your mate.
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Elon Musk1:01
Yeah, it's more like the opposite of a cup of coffee. It's like a cup of coffee in reverse.
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Interviewer1:04
Oh, weed is — no, I'm saying what would be beneficial to you would be like coffee.
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Elon Musk1:11
I like to get things done. I like to be useful. That is one of the hardest things to do, is to be useful.
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Interviewer1:19
When you say you like to get things done, in terms of what gives you satisfaction, when you complete a project, when something you invent comes to fruition and you see people enjoying it — that feeling?
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Elon Musk1:32
Yes. Doing something useful for other people that I like doing.
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Interviewer1:37
That's interesting, for other people.
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Elon Musk1:41
Yes.
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Interviewer1:42
So do you think that is maybe the way you recognize that you have this unusual position in the culture where you can uniquely influence certain things? I mean, you essentially have a gift, right? You would think it was a curse, but I'm sure it's been fueled by many years of discipline and learning. You essentially have a gift in that you have this radical sort of creativity engine when it comes to innovation and technology. It's like you're just going at very high RPMs all the time. What is that like?
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Elon Musk2:23
It doesn't stop. I don't know what would happen if I got into a sensory deprivation tank. I don't know.
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Interviewer2:30
Sounds concerning.
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Elon Musk2:33
It's like running the engine with no resistance.
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Interviewer2:35
That seems — is that what it is, though? Maybe it's not.
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Elon Musk2:39
Maybe it's fine. I don't know. I'll try it.
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Interviewer2:44
Have you ever experimented with meditation or anything?
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Elon Musk2:49
Yes.
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Interviewer2:50
What do you do? Or what have you done, rather?
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Elon Musk2:55
I mean, you just sort of sit there and be quiet and then repeat some mantra which acts as a focal point. It distills the mind. But I don't find myself drawn to it frequently.
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Interviewer3:14
Do you think that perhaps productivity is maybe more attractive to you than enlightenment, or even the concept of whatever enlightenment means? What are you trying to achieve when you're meditating? With you it seems like there's a franticness to your creativity that comes out of this burning furnace, and in order for you to calm that thing down, you might have to throw too much water on it.
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Elon Musk3:45
It's like a never-ending explosion.
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Interviewer3:49
Like what is it like? Try to explain it to a dumb person like me. What's going on there?
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Elon Musk3:56
Never-ending explosion. It's just constant ideas just bouncing around.
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Interviewer4:01
Yes. Damn. Yeah. So when everybody leaves, it's just Elon sitting at home brushing his teeth, just a bunch of ideas bouncing around your head.
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Elon Musk4:13
Yeah.
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Interviewer4:14
All the time. When did you realize that that's not the case with most people?