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Co-CEO & Executive Chairman, Lennar Corp

Lennar Corporation Q1 2026 Earnings Call

🎥 Mar 13, 2026 📺 Investing 101 ⏱ 73m 👁 52 views
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About Stuart Miller

Stuart Miller, Co-CEO and Executive Chairman of Lennar, has described the current housing market as facing an affordability crisis that has left many families excluded from homeownership. He stated that the company is focused on managing inventory levels and reducing cycle times and costs per square foot to improve efficiency. Miller noted that after three years of increasing incentives, the company observed a potentially sustainable decline in incentive levels, which he described as a possible leading indicator of margin recovery, though he cautioned that the market remains choppy. Miller has commented on the broader economic and policy environment, stating that the inflation backdrop has likely taken the Federal Reserve off the table as a near-term source of relief. He expressed confidence that meaningful federal action on housing affordability is closer than the market believes, calling the level of government attention to the issue unprecedented in his experience. He also characterized certain policy initiatives as a concerning long-term development for housing, suggesting they could reduce production and supply. Miller has emphasized that Lennar is not waiting for rate cuts and is executing based on current market conditions, while maintaining that pent-up demand exists and that the company is working to rationalize its cost structure.

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Transcript (52 segments)
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Operator0:00
Welcome to Lennar's first quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Today's conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I will now turn the call over to David Collins for the reading of the forward-looking statement.
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David Collins0:18
Thank you and good morning everyone. Today's conference call may include forward-looking statements, including statements regarding Lennar's business, financial condition, results of operations, cash flow, strategies, and prospects. Forward-looking statements represent only Lennar's estimates on the date of this conference call and are not intended to give any assurance as to actual future results. These statements are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could affect future results and may cause Lennar's actual activities or results to differ materially from those anticipated. These factors include those described in our earnings release and our SEC filings, including those under the caption risk factors contained in Lennar's annual report on Form 10-K most recently filed with the SEC. Please note that Lennar assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
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Operator1:20
I would now like to introduce your host, Mr. Stuart Miller, Executive Chairman. You may begin.
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Stuart Miller1:28
Good morning everybody and thanks for joining us today. We're in Miami and I'm here with Diane Bessette, our Chief Financial Officer; David Collins, our Controller and Vice President; Katherine Martin, our Chief Legal Officer; Bruce Grove, CEO of Lennar Financial Services; Eric Feder, President of Lenar; and we have today Jim Parker and David Grove, our Area Presidents who are new to this program and who are now overseeing operations across the company. As you know, Jon Jaffe officially retired at the start of this year. While Jon's absence is deeply felt, the depth of experience and leadership on our team ensures we're just not going to miss a step. Jon, if you're listening, all is good. We hope you're enjoying your time at the beach. We're working hard and I promise you that Jim and David are comfortable with everything in their day-to-day new positions except for the trauma embedded in today's conference call. But it really is the only thing that you didn't prepare them for. Today I'm going to give a brief macro and strategic overview. After my remarks, you will hear briefly from Jim Parker and David Grove who will give a brief operational overview. Then Diane is going to give a detailed financial overview along with some limited guidance for the second quarter of 2026. And then we'll have our question and answer period. As usual, I'd like to ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up so that we can accommodate as many as possible. We're pleased to review our first quarter 2026 results against the backdrop of what remains a stubbornly challenging housing market. Recently the challenges seem to have intensified given the volatility and uncertainty surrounding current events in the Middle East and the recent pullback of institutional purchasers as participants in the market. Nevertheless, even with additional hurdles, we believe that we are closer to an inflection point for Lennar than at any time in the past three years. In the first quarter, we remained focused on our clear and consistent strategy. We drove consistent volume and matched production and sales pace. We used margin as a circuit breaker and we continue to refine and improve our asset-light manufacturing platform. We have not pulled back and waited for the market to improve. We have maintained volume and focused on building improved business programs to bring costs down so that we can remain profitable and still provide needed housing supply. While our first quarter margins and our bottom line continued to reflect the affordability-driven realities of the current housing market, we also saw continuous improvement in all facets of our underlying cost structure that has set us on a course to stabilize and improve margins as we continue to produce volume and meet the market at affordability. Even with the current market challenges, we are feeling optimistic about our position in strategic markets and the progress made in reshaping our business for current conditions. We are adapting to market conditions as they are and not waiting for the market to bounce back. The macro economy continues to present a complex and at times unsettling backdrop for the housing market. Home prices remain high and have generally continued a pace of increase nationally that is generally higher than the pace of wage increases. Mortgage interest rates, which showed some early signs of easing towards the end of last year, have remained stubbornly over 6%, hovering around 6.2 to 6.4% through most of our first quarter. Affordability remains the central challenge facing our buyers, and consumer confidence while not collapsing continues to be tested by a range of uncertainties both domestic and global. The war in the Middle East is a wild card. It might end quickly and the world is a better and safer place, or it might trigger higher gas prices, higher inflation, and higher interest rates. On the employment front, consumers who had previously felt secure in their jobs are now questioning that security as technology-driven disruption, particularly the rapid advance of artificial intelligence, raises important questions about the future of our workforce. This uncertainty layers onto already strained household budgets and has made consumers more hesitant to commit to large purchases, particularly homes. Traffic has remained reasonably consistent across our communities, but the urgency to transact remains measured. At the same time, a combination of tariffs and immigration issues are keeping upward pressure on material and labor costs. We have been working hard to push against and manage these pressures through our trade partner relationships and through the efficiencies we have built into our manufacturing model. Nevertheless, the cost structure in the industry is pushing higher and is difficult to manage. The institutional purchasers have been sidelined by political pressures and popular sentiment. They have generally purchased somewhere between five and 7% of new homes in order to rent them. Ultimately, this movement will reduce demand in the market and signal to the industry to build less supply. On a more positive note, the federal government's engagement with the housing crisis continues to deepen. Federal officials have been actively engaged with builders and industry associations to understand the affordability challenge and explore practical solutions. The level of attention being paid at the federal level to the housing shortage is unprecedented. We believe that meaningful policy support is more likely now than at any time in recent history. Any program that effectively broadens access to affordable or attainable home ownership would be a significant tailwind for the industry and for Lennar specifically. In summary, the housing market remains caught in the tensions between underlying demand and constrained affordability. Supply is still critically short and years of underproduction have created a structural deficit that will take years to close. But we believe the conditions are building for an eventual recovery. Our strategy is and has remained very clear. We are focused on three core tenets: one, operationally driving consistent volume to maximize efficiency; two, financially refining our asset-light balance sheet to generate strong and growing returns and cash flow; and three, technologically engaging and incorporating new technologies to advance our operational progress and enhance our customer experience. In 2026, we are bringing new levels of expectation and accountability to each of these areas and expect to drive definable results quarter by quarter. We are on a focused and determined march to drive costs down this year. As I've said before, we are not nostalgically waiting for the market to reset to the way things were. Instead, we're adjusting ourselves to the way things are and we've made considerable progress. First, we see real progress in costs and efficiencies in our operating divisions. You will and will continue to hear more about progress in our production and supply chain areas that are enabling us to become a low-cost provider. Second, we are starting to see real traction in our technology initiatives that are creating efficiencies in the way that we operate. We now have our operators working collaboratively with engineers to develop product upgrades at speed and we have built transmission lines through the company for execution across our platform to drive uniformity. Additionally, we have brought into the company an important team of engineers and tech specialists enabling us to accelerate. Third, we are in the early stages of right-sizing our overhead. The technology migration has inflated our overhead. We have carried additional associates, consultants, and various other costs as we've started the process of modernizing our 71-year-old company with new technologies. The JDE ERP transition from World to E1 is now complete, which enables our resources to be focused on driving our business forward. Many of the resources that were needed to get started are no longer needed, and these costs will be transitioned throughout 2026 as those resources are returned to industry. As Jon Jaffe retired at the beginning of the year, a number of our longer-term Lennar associates have chosen to retire more recently in the context of current market conditions. Any of our tenured associates who have made Lennar what it is today always have the absolute privilege to retire on their terms. Each of them has led, trained, and nurtured future leaders who are themselves now tenured, ready to lead, and eager for the opportunity. Jon felt it was a good time to retire and frankly Jim and David were ready and anxious for their term. This is exactly how it's supposed to work and it's working well here at Lennar. Now, let's turn to our first quarter 2026 operating results. We started 17,425 homes and sold 18,515 homes, staying closely in balance and keeping our inventory properly sized. Our average sales price came in at $374,000, essentially flat to plan and down 8% from the prior year, a reflection of continued use of incentives to enable affordability and drive volume. Sales incentives on deliveries were 14.1%, roughly flat with Q4 of last year at 14.5%, and we are cautiously optimistic that incentive levels are beginning to stabilize. The new order incentive rate actually showed some early encouraging signs, notably below the 14.1% delivery incentive rate. As a result, our gross margin in the first quarter was 15.2%, reflecting improving discipline across construction, land, and overhead. Our SG&A came in at 9.8%, slightly above expectations. Net margin was 5.3%, producing net income of $229 million and EPS of $0.93. Our inventory turn improved to 2.5 times, up from 1.7 times a year ago, and our return on inventory was 17.4%. Our community count at 1,678 at quarter end was up 6% from a year ago. On the asset-light side, we continue to make strong progress. Less than 5% of our land is on balance sheet and our total homebuilding inventory has been reduced from just under $20 billion two years ago to $10.5 billion today. Our land banking relationships with Millrose, Angelo Gordon, Domain, Hearthstone, Apollo, and others continue to function extremely well, providing just-in-time homesite delivery. We have an 86% landbank delivery rate this quarter, up from 52% in Q1 of last year. We ended the quarter with $2.1 billion in cash and a homebuilding debt-to-capital ratio at 15.7%. In conclusion, while it has been another challenging quarter in a challenging housing market, it is another constructive quarter for Lennar. Our numbers are not yet where we'd like them to be, but the trajectory is just right. Costs are coming down, volume is holding, our asset-light platform is functioning extremely well, and our technology initiatives are beginning to yield real and measurable results. We always keep in mind that normalized incentive levels run 4 to 6% compared to the 14% we are carrying today. That gap is our opportunity and we are building toward it deliberately and with confidence. Our balance sheet is strong. Our land banking relationships are deep and productive and our technology initiatives are positioning Lennar to be a materially different and better company in the years ahead. We are building not just for this market but for the long term.
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Jim Parker25:49
Thanks, Stuart. And good morning, everyone. I am Jim Parker and I'm Lennar's Area President for the eastern half of the country. I came to Lennar about eight years ago through the CalAtlantic transaction and I've been in the homebuilding business for over 30 years. David Grove and I worked together to drive performance across the Lennar platform and you will hear from David right after me. Let me start by saying that I'm very enthusiastic about where we are as a company and the tremendous progress we've made over the past three and a half years. While the market has been difficult since interest rates spiked in 2022, we have had a clear and well-communicated plan at Lennar and we have been coordinated in our execution. Instead of waiting for the market to correct, we believed this was a new normal and began to adapt our business execution to provide the volume the market needs at the prices and incentives where the market can transact. Over the next three weeks, David and I will visit each of our divisions and conduct our quarterly operations reviews. This is always exciting as we walk through the market at a very local level. We get a direct view of how our leaders think, how they adapt to change, and how they represent Lennar in our markets. These sessions allow us to pair the macro environment with what's actually happening in the field so our decisions remain grounded in reality. The reviews also give us the ability to discuss our strategies at work in real time. We also take a close look at how we are resonating with customers through our marketing and sales efforts, through intelligence tools like Real which captures real-time feedback from buyer interactions, and through our dynamic pricing machine and Everything's Included platform. This collaborative approach ensures that we are aligning product, monthly payment, and value in a way that meets today's buyers' needs while allowing us to strategically reduce incentives and rebuild our margins. This business approach and local focus have allowed Lennar's market position to remain exceptionally strong. We are the number one builder by market share in 22 of the top 50 homebuilding markets and a top three builder in 42 of the top 50. That leadership reflects our volume-first, value-focused strategy and the strength of Lennar's operating machine. We ended Q1 with 1,678 active communities, up 6% year-over-year. At the end of the day, we run this business hands-on and as one Lennar. When we stay close to our operators, close to our customers, and aligned around land, product, and execution, we create consistency across the company. I'm proud of the discipline and momentum our teams are building, and we look forward to carrying that into the rest of the year. With that, I'll turn it over to David.
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David Grove30:25
Thanks, Jim. Morning, everyone. I'm David Grove, the Area President for the West. Nice to be with you today. As Stuart said, we remain extremely focused on capitalizing on our strategy of asset-light and even-flow production to fuel operational efficiencies and consistent growth. The execution of our strategy is resulting in exactly the outcome we expected. While we have certainly impacted our margin, we are also realizing lower costs, improved cycle time, and continuing to buy well-structured land at rationalized prices, all while continuing to drive efficiencies in our operation. Our technology-driven bid tool software coupled with our even-flow starts and Everything's Included strategy has allowed us to consistently realize cost savings quarter over quarter. We have lowered our direct costs 12 of 13 quarters sequentially and we are down 12% over the last two years. Our directs are now below pre-COVID levels. In Q1, we achieved just over a 2.5% reduction in direct construction costs from Q4, which represents a 7% year-over-year reduction. Our cycle time on single-family detached homes was down another 5 days quarter-over-quarter to 122 days. This is an 11% year-over-year reduction and an all-time low for Lennar. On the land front, we continue to capitalize on strong relationships with developers and land sellers to fill our land pipeline. Our consistent strategy and creative problem solving has given us the ability to negotiate both land pricing and terms that will position us for stronger margins. These operational improvements increased our inventory turn by 47% from prior year to 2.5. In the first quarter, we achieved a sales pace of 3.6 sales per community per month while carefully managing incentives on a home-by-home basis as we use technology to drive volume while preserving price. Our qualified leads representing the highest intent buyers increased 10% year-over-year. Our average response time to customer inquiries improved to 35 seconds in Q1, a 71% improvement year-over-year, and this responsiveness now extends around the clock 24/7 with digital agents available at any hour. We improved our quality scores by 7% reflecting continued investment in coaching and AI-assisted performance analysis. As a result of refined targeting, faster response time, and higher quality engagement, our digitally driven lead sales appointments kept increased 11% from the prior quarter and 17% from Q1 2025. Our pricing strategy focuses on daily evaluation of demand patterns, inventory levels, and pricing discovery data to set the price and incentives for each home in each community to optimize margin while maintaining a targeted sales pace. As Stuart mentioned, we ended our first quarter with three completed unsold homes per community. Our team is focused on executing our strategies that drive improving customer acquisition revenue, reduce direct costs, and enhance operational efficiencies. These efforts are delivering measurable results and positioning us for future success.
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Stuart Miller34:40
Before you go forward, Diane, great job, guys. But, David, how many years have you been with the company? ... 27. So, just want to make sure that everybody understands. Jimmy, you got 38 years in the industry and eight years here at Lennar from the CalAtlantic program. And David, 27 years right here at Lennar. ... Okay. Carry on.
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David Grove34:49
27. Homegrown.
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Diane Bessette35:10
Morning everyone. So Stuart, Jim, and David have provided a great deal of color regarding our operating performance. Therefore, I'm going to spend a few minutes on the results of our financial services operations, summarize balance sheet highlights, and then provide estimates for the second quarter. Starting with financial services. For the first quarter, our financial services team had operating earnings of $91 million. The lower earnings were mainly derived from our mortgage business. The decrease was primarily based on the mix of buy-down programs offered to our homebuilding divisions, including an increase in ARMs versus fixed-rate mortgages with ARMs generating significantly lower earnings. Turning to the balance sheet. We were highly focused on generating cash by pricing homes to meet affordability. We ended the quarter with $2.1 billion of cash and total liquidity of $5.2 billion. We are well positioned as an asset-light manufacturing homebuilder. Our years' supply of owned home sites was 0.1 years and our home sites control percentage was 98%. We ended the quarter owning 11,000 home sites and controlling 486,000 for a total of 497,000 home sites. Our inventory turn increased to 2.5 times with a return on inventory of approximately 17%. Homebuilding debt to total capital was 15.7% at quarter end. We repurchased 2 million shares for $237 million and paid dividends totaling $123 million. Our stockholders' equity was approximately $22 billion and our book value per share was approximately $89. Turning to the second quarter guidance. We expect new orders in the range of 21,000 to 22,000 homes. We anticipate Q2 deliveries in the range of 20,000 to 21,000 as we maintain even-flow production. Our Q2 average sales price should be between $370,000 and $375,000, and gross margins should be in the range of 15.5% to 16%. We believe our Q1 margin of 15.2% should represent the low point for the year. Our SG&A percentage should be in the range of 8.9% to 9.1%. We anticipate financial services earnings to be between $100 and $110 million. For our multifamily business, we expect earnings of about $10 million. Our Q2 tax rate should be approximately 25.5% and the weighted average share count should be approximately 243 million. These estimates should produce an EPS range of approximately $1.10 to $1.40 for the quarter. We continue to aim for a full-year delivery target of 85,000 homes. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator.
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Operator40:32
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session of today's conference call. We ask that you limit your questions to one question and one follow-up question until all the questions have been answered. If you would like to ask a question, please unmute your phone, press star one, and record your name clearly when prompted. Our first question comes from Alan Ratner from Zelman and Associates. Please go ahead.
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Alan Ratner40:59
Good morning. Thanks for the detail, and David and Jim, nice job. Glad to have you on the call. First question, top of mind on recent activity. Stuart, I'm curious with the move we've seen in rates over the last couple of weeks. Have you continued to see the ability to either stabilize or inch lower your incentives even over the last couple of weeks amidst this volatility? And has the cost of rate buy-downs gone up alongside the move in rates, and how is that contemplated in the margin guide?
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Stuart Miller41:49
So, the question is interesting, Alan, because it happens to be an interesting time to do an earnings call. There's enough brand new volatility since the end of our quarter to call into question any number of things. I think we've tried to give as much guidance as we saw through the quarter and not do too much to update that thinking under the banner that one week in a row doesn't make a trend, either to the positive or to the negative. The benefit we have right now is that immediately after this call, both Jim and David, as Jim carefully described, will be out in the field working with the divisions to see what the actual impact is and think about what we do to either offset or lean into the things we're seeing in the field. Without doing too much to update, I don't think we have an update. We haven't seen significant movement either in traffic or in the ability to sell. I just don't think that there's enough information to know whether this will be a short-term program or even as a long-term program, whether domestically it will be a net positive or net negative. But as we see things right now, we're not seeing significant movement in the market. It really has been pretty steady. Jim, you first.
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Jim Parker43:51
No, I agree. Right now we haven't seen an impact, but it's early to tell. We talked to our division presidents this morning, and they have not seen any change to date this week or the previous week. So we're confident, but we're being very cautious. And like Stuart said, we're making sure we stay really close to the local markets to make sure we stay in tune with that. David.
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David Grove44:15
Yeah, we're generally seeing a similar demand pattern this week that we've seen in the prior couple of weeks. So no significant negative impact. I think generally speaking that's positive in light of the state of the macroeconomics.
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Stuart Miller44:30
So look, I would just summarize and say that first of all, we generally don't give updated guidance or information, but given the anomalous moment that we're in, it's worth putting it on the table that right now things are steady as we see them. Both Jim and David and myself for that matter are day-to-day in touch with our operators to get that feedback in real time. We're not seeing something that would adjust the way that we have thought about the information that we've given, including our guidance. For those of you who know me well, I don't complete writing the material that I deliver in our earnings call until generally late at night or early in the morning the night before. So we keep it pretty up to date and this was pretty well thought through.
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Alan Ratner45:31
That is incredibly helpful. I appreciate walking through the timing there of when you put this plan together and what you've seen. Second question, on SG&A. I just wanted to touch on some of the comments you made, Stuart, about the expected improvement in SG&A in 2026 versus 2025 given all of the changes and headcount changes over the last several quarters. If I look at your SG&A as a percentage of revenue, year-to-date through the first half including your Q2 guidance, you're going to be up about 100 basis points year-on-year. Does that mean you're anticipating that to actually be lower on a year-over-year basis in the back half of the year, or am I reading too much into that commentary?
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Stuart Miller46:25
So let me broaden the discussion to overhead, which is broader than just SG&A. The answer is that as numbers are reduced, it takes time for those numbers to flow through and come through our earnings reports. Theoretically, yes, we are seeing opportunities and expectations that our overhead is going to be meaningfully lower as we come to the end of the year. Whether it actually flows through one quarter or another, we're going to wait and see. Some of these things get a little bit sticky. Some of the costs associated with our technology initiatives are clearly front-end loaded. The transition from World to E1 was extraordinarily expensive. That's tapering off. It might take some time for that to flow through, but that's happening more quickly. There are other elements of what we have been working on and even the things where we misstepped and went down bad paths initially where money was spent and we don't have to spend that money anymore. Additionally, as I talked about senior management, we have so many extraordinary people within our company that are deciding to use this opportunity to retire and let the next generation shine. Though we haven't put out a public announcement, I'm sitting next to one of our favorites in Bruce. Bruce is going to be retiring. We've known this for months and Bruce is actually going to transition and become part of the Lennar Foundation working hand-in-hand with Marshall. But it's really across the company. Overhead reduction is a positive, but enabling the next generation of leaders to step up and put themselves on display, just as you've seen here this morning, is really the greater good. When I say fresh legs, if you look at the energy that Jim and David are bringing to the equation, if you listen to Laura Escobar in financial services, if you listen to others around the company, the opportunity to take a fresh look at a lot of things is a really unique opportunity that we're leaning into right now.
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Alan Ratner49:08
Thank you so much. Best of luck.
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Operator49:12
Next we'll go to the line of Stephen Kim from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
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Stephen Kim49:18
Great. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thanks as usual for all the info. My first question has to do with how you determine what's the optimal level of volume that you need to extract the efficiencies in your homebuilding operation and given all the technology initiatives. Is it based on a certain market share or is it more sort of a bottoms-up approach and therefore independent of what volumes are doing in the broader market? Last year it sounded like you were focused on achieving a certain level of volume so you could get the efficiencies you needed, and because industry starts were down high single digits, you happened to gain a lot of share. But the focus wasn't on the share, it was on maintaining a certain level of volume. In your opening remarks you also mentioned growing market share almost as if it was a goal in itself. How should we think about the volume that you need in any given year? Are there situations where you would willingly relinquish some market share, or should we think that you're always looking to gain market share?
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Stuart Miller50:33
Well, Steve, interesting question. I'm thinking about it as you're asking it. The reality is that the answer is unique to each market and each market is a little bit different. When you look at a rollup of our company, it would be hard to cobble together a unified strategy. There are a number of considerations that are going into that calculation, and they're all very market specific. We don't have a specific mandate to grow market share, but we do recognize that with advantaged market share we are able to work with trade partners and land holders to do a better job of negotiating. I'm going to turn over to David first. Why don't you talk a little bit about land opportunities, and then Jim, maybe you'll think about some other components.
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David Grove51:33
Yeah, sure. Market share by market, we understand based on our position in the market where we ought to be and we have a target, but that doesn't really drive what you're asking about. What drives our consistent volume is the way that we've thoughtfully put together each one of our land positions and our communities. We have expectations early on that we hit a certain pace, and our strategy right now is to maintain that pace. The increased market share is a derivative of our maintained pace on a community-by-community basis relative to our underwriting, and then the competitors that are generally slowing down a little bit.
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Jim Parker52:20
Yeah, I think the trade partners, we absolutely build it from the bottom up. It really starts with the community. It really starts when you plan that community and you come up with what the ideal absorption is, and then we try to build from that. And the better job we do with that with trade partners and land sellers and everything else, the growth kind of comes with it. We get more looks at different communities in the future and it just kind of all ties together. I really think it's not going in having a set number in mind. It's really building from the bottom up of the communities. As we open more communities, that's really what accelerates that market share. It's smart growth, but we really try to get to a set absorption based on what the market will give us and what we think is the right level with the trades and everything else.
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Stuart Miller53:06
And I just have to say that the volatility embedded in putting your foot on the accelerator and then taking it off and putting it on the brake and going back and forth, it only creates inefficiencies in the development process, in the construction process, and all the processes. If we can build dependability for trade partners and even for land partners, we're going to get the best pricing and we're using that to our advantage. In each market we are doing our own very separate, very focused market study to think about the combination of pricing and pacing in our own unique way, focused not on answering competitive information but contextualizing it in terms of how can we rationalize affordability with cost structure to end up with the best configuration for the future. I just want to say one last thing. We didn't start with this with a notion that we're going to wait for the market to recover. Instead we said, market by market, we have focused on how do we construct the best version of Lennar to build efficiencies for a market that's likely to remain stubborn for a long time. It's now three and a half years and we haven't had that throwback to the past. We're constructing an operating platform that is reconfigured to be able to build affordability for the future. If you think back to the COVID time and the inflationary period in 2022-23, the cost structures grew alongside the pricing structures. We're left with the pricing and the cost structure is very sticky both on land and on vertical and horizontal construction. Rebuilding the company to be better positioned to build affordability has been hard work. It's being done division by division within its own structure and that rolls up to the number that you see corporately.
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Stephen Kim55:38
Gotcha. Yeah, that's very helpful. My second question has to do with volume through the year. You've reiterated the guide to 85,000 closings and you're kind of off to a little bit of a slower start than even last year. It just sort of feels like the year is going to be more backend-weighted. How important is it for you to achieve a more even flow of volume through the year? Is the fact that this year is not going to be quite as much as you might like a hindrance to achieving the efficiencies that you ultimately want to get longer term? Should we be expecting that you're going to achieve more of a 50-50 front-half back-half cadence?
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Stuart Miller56:31
Look, this is an art, not a science. I can't predetermine today what we're going to do throughout the year. As I said, Steve, and as Jim carefully laid out, Jim and David are getting out into the field for operations reviews, division by division, bottom-up approach, working with the people. And that happens at Lennar all the way through the year. So what we say today might change over the next couple of weeks. We know there's a lot going on in the world that is affecting gas prices, inflation levels, interest rates, and that might be short-term or longer term. We're going to be connected with what's happening on the ground and it might be unique to different markets how it actually plays out. What we are solving for is how do we use as much volume consistency as we can to build efficiency in everything that we're doing. But we don't want to at the same time not pay attention to what the market is allowing us to do. We don't want to break the market. And so it's a balancing act. And that's why I say it's an art. It's not a science. Jim, you want to weigh in?
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Jim Parker57:47
Yeah, I would just say this is a huge priority for the divisions. We start this process even before the year begins with our early forecasting. We look at the different quarters. We look at whether they are as equal as they possibly can be. It really goes back to focusing in on the land and opening communities in a timely manner and not letting delays hit. And I think we're getting much better at that. It really comes down to looking out 18 months, seeing what quarters look like. And that's when you decide where are we at with community count, what do we need to push, what do we need to do. You take Northeast markets, what do we need to do as far as getting the home sites developed quicker with different methods, dealing through the weather. So I think it really starts with planning. And I think you see divisions that are doing it well. They just have a tremendously well-rounded machine. David?
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David Grove58:37
I would just say that we are focused on consistency of volume but we are also responsive to the market as the market shifts underneath us. I think what holds us in good stead is that we have clarity of strategy. We are going to start at our sales paces, open communities on time. We're going to price to market where the market happens to be and we're going to deliver our homes and not carry excess inventory homes.
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Stuart Miller59:04
And our pricing mechanism, our pricing tool is really primarily focused on getting a tactile sense of where the customer is and where affordability lies. And this is our primary driver in our day-to-day hands-on pricing all the way through the company.
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Stephen Kim59:27
Great. Thanks so much, guys.
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Operator59:30
Next we'll go to the line of Susan McClary from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
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Susan McClary59:37
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is, it's impressive to see how the inventory turns hit two and a half times this quarter despite all the pressure that you are seeing in the market. Could you talk about where you see the upside to inventory as you think about the construct of those key areas of focus that you're really looking to achieve as we move through the next several quarters?
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Stuart Miller1:00:08
Well, not only is that a good question, that's a timely question. Eric and I spent some time in New York working through some of the capital markets approaches that we think about and dream about in terms of charting the path for the future of the company. I'm not going to be able to give you an answer as to where I think it can go, but I think that there's a field of opportunity. I think the financial transformation that we've gone through, separating land from homebuilding on the balance sheet, is really interesting. It's getting more interesting by the day. If you look at the risk-adjusted pricing for capital when you separate risk profiles, there's a field of opportunity to rationalize the costs that are associated with the different dimensions of land that we currently have. We are targeting specific land banking programs and relationships and trying to find the right bucket for the right land to minimize the option costs associated. Additionally, we think that over time by taking a capital markets thought process to the way that we have configured this, we're going to be able to think even better about how we bring land into availability for the company, how we manage the just-in-time delivery system, and all of this is going to have incremental benefit to that inventory turn number. So I don't think you've heard the last of inventory turn. I think we're continuing to reach higher. The one other thing that I want to detail is the importance of our core product to this discussion. The more we migrate to fewer products that we build over and over again, the more efficiency we're going to inject. I still look at our cycle times and how they've come down year-over-year from 137 days to 122 and quarter-over-quarter from about 126 or 127 days down to 122. I look at the focus in the field and the opportunity to make it better by using core products. How would you talk about that?
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David Grove1:03:12
Yeah, I think a core product is not only resulting in our cycle time reduction, I think it's going to continue to improve also. It helps us rationalize our cost structure. A couple of core products that are designed very efficiently with an Everything's Included package that helps us capitalize on our purchasing structure, capitalize on our scale. And that combination of volume, core product, efficiency of build is materializing in lower cost and faster cycle times which are going to be accretive to our inventory turns.
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Jim Parker1:03:48
I would just say the cycle time, you go to these office meetings and the teams are so proud of getting lower and lower and it's become the best friendly competition I've seen amongst divisions. When Charlotte says they're at 101, I say, well that's great, but why is Greenville at 96? Boy, they come back the next quarter and they even hit it harder. So it's become a very badge of honor and the core plans just makes it so much more efficient for our trades to build. They know they get repetition. They know what we're looking for. Inspections go smoother. So it really all helps the cycle.
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Stuart Miller1:04:23
Yeah. And look, I've been there with you. You've been the instigator. And it's not just a competition to see who can do things faster. It's a combination of being able to bring the consistency that we give to our trade partners and even to land partners, enabling us to get better and better at the coordinated dance of building homes. And some of our divisions are just really paving new ground to improve that cycle time in a very constructive way.
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David Grove1:04:58
And the best thing is quality has improved with cycle time. Exactly. And they've become so much more efficient. Quality and customer experience.
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Jim Parker1:05:02
They've become so much more efficient.
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Stuart Miller1:05:07
New stars for the company. Okay.
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Susan McClary1:05:11
Okay. Well, that was very helpful color. Thank you for all that. Following up on it quickly, where are you in terms of the core plans? Can you talk to what percentage of the deliveries today are coming from that? Is there any kind of a target that you can share with us as you think about the next 12 or 24 months? And as part of that it leads to the question around capital allocation, and as this comes together can you talk to how you're thinking about the top uses of cash and how shareholder returns and growth and all these other initiatives fit within that.
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Stuart Miller1:05:49
So yeah, look, the discussion of core plans again, we can talk about it corporately but the reality is it's division by division by division. But the more important thing is how technology plays into all of this because we are migrating to a place where our due diligence program relative to land is going to be tied to an element of core plan engagement that is going to nudge the company using technology towards greater and greater use of core plan. Now you can imagine if we're talking about land engagement and due diligence process, it's going to take some time for this to actually come through the system. But this is an area where modern technologies across a diffuse platform, 50 divisions coast to coast, and getting that entire enterprise to push towards core plans, it is going to be technology that really drives us forward and we're building those connectors right now. But is there anything that you guys would say about where core plans are percentage-wise and how we're migrating through your ops reviews and division engagements?
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David Grove1:07:05
That's generally across the platform call it 65% core and that's going to vary by division from some at 50% to some at 90%. And that is really relative to the rollout of our core in order to meet different buyer profiles at different price points.
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Stuart Miller1:07:26
Great. Okay.
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Operator1:07:34
Our final question comes from John Lovallo from UBS. Please go ahead.
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John Lovallo1:07:40
Hey guys, thank you for taking my question. Maybe firstly in trying to kind of bridge the homebuilding cash, it appears that there's roughly maybe a billion dollars or so of cash flow use in the first quarter and it seems like it was largely attributable to inventory, which was a bit surprising given that you started and delivered roughly the same number of homes in the quarter. So what's driving the pressure on cash flow given the expectation for pretty strong conversion in 2026?
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Diane Bessette1:08:12
Probably relates most to average sales price coming down.
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David Grove1:08:19
Yeah, I think so. John, I'll jump in. As you know, we're very focused on pricing to market, our incentives are on the higher level. And so, while we're getting cost savings that are increasing cash, as you've heard us say, it's hard to outpace the lower revenue on a per-home basis. So we have to keep purchasing home sites to keep the production going. So I think you'll see a little bit of better matching as the quarters progress, but the first quarter is so light on revenue because it's light on deliveries. It's a little bit of an anomaly for the year.
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John Lovallo1:08:58
Okay, understood. Understanding that we're in a pretty dynamic market right now, I just wanted to follow up on Steve's question. The 85,000 delivery target seems to imply that you plan to start more homes than your orders in the second quarter and then kind of work through that inventory in the back half. If that's not correct, maybe I'll say it that way. What's driving the much higher second-half deliveries than the implied second-quarter inventory?
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Stuart Miller1:09:35
So first of all, let me say we clearly have question marks around the two things that I detailed. The things that have happened in the short term that have kind of changed the landscape. Of course, turmoil in the Middle East has everybody's attention and we have a question mark what's that going to mean, how's it going to ripple through. And number two, the sidelining of the institutional investor is another component of that. There are a lot of people thinking about it. And if the institutional investors are really sidelined, is that going to instigate more primary buyers to the market as some believe, or is it going to reduce volume? We're going to have to wait and see. And I tried to leave room for those changes that impact the question of what our deliveries will be as we come through the year. But what drives us to continue to aim for that number is a base belief, a base optimism that I've been getting from both David and Jim about the configuration of our business. On the one hand you have these geopolitical issues or domestic issues that are counterbalancing. But I will tell you that leading up to the past couple of weeks there has been a sense of optimism about the programs that we have in place. Jim, why don't you talk about that a little bit?
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Jim Parker1:11:19
Look, I think it comes down to we see the steadiness in a lot of markets, but more importantly, we see the energy with our associates, and they're starting to really see these different programs. They're starting to see the advantage to it. A quick example is virtual customer care. I had office meetings yesterday at three divisions over the last two days. And to every division, they all talked about at first they were challenged. Now all of a sudden the efficiency, the customer experience, the quickness of the response to the customer. I think that's really what we're seeing is our teams are really starting to buy into what we've been working on for years and they're now seeing the advantages. Optimism fuels a lot of people and I think that you get that positive energy going. That's what's driving it. David?
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David Grove1:12:12
I would just say that we have the privilege right now of being able to read what the market gives us over the next few months within this environment. And because of our cycle time reduction, we have the room to adjust accordingly so that we can determine as the year progresses whether 85,000 is rational or not. But I think generally speaking the unified view right now is it's definitely within our scope and within the opportunity set, and we're pretty enthusiastic about the programs that we have in place that have given us somewhat of an edge on the market. Certainly an edge on information flow and staying close to the market and of course that very careful dance that we dance of having corporate closely tied to the individuals and the divisions that are actually seeing what's happening on the ground.
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Stuart Miller1:12:36
I think there's a general sense of optimism at the company right now that we're going to do as good as the market allows. And I think that's a good place to stop. I want to thank everyone for joining us. I couldn't be more excited about the program we have in place and having David and Jim make it through their first traumatic conference call. And we look forward to continued progress.