About Ben Thompson
Ben Thompson, founder of Stratechery, has published a series of articles and podcast episodes in the last 60 days analyzing major technology companies and the AI industry. In "The iPhone’s Last Stand," Thompson argued that Microsoft's Project Solera positions it as an enterprise play, and that consumers "don't want to work and don't really care about being productive." He described Apple's Siri as the only service that can pull off personal context across apps, "as long as it's not vaporware." In "The Google Capital Company," Thompson characterized Google's business model as one where "supply is free" and "consumers willfully compete against each other to raise your prices," and discussed the company's use of equity to fund AI capital expenditures. On his Sharp Tech podcast, Thompson discussed the possibility of an AI bubble, stating that "it's going to be a lot of existing companies realizing the AI spends not worth it" and that such companies "are just going to slowly die as new companies come along that actually do use AI."
Thompson also wrote about SpaceX's IPO and the concept of data centers in space, expressing concern about "our ability to muster enough compute to fully realize the gains from AI" and describing Musk's proposal as "an alternative path to unlimited compute." He noted that "Musk is the master of memes" and that his companies offer "a dream" to investors. In "Amazon's Durability," Thompson argued that Amazon's focus on long-term investments in the physical world makes it "as sturdy as ever" in the AI landscape. He also covered Anthropic's Mythos model, describing it as a "major security threat" and discussing the company's "opportunity cost problem" regarding compute allocation. In "Tim Cook’s Impeccable Timing," Thompson reviewed Cook's tenure as Apple CEO, noting that revenue increased 303% and profits 354% during his leadership, while also suggesting that Cook may have "created the conditions for a crash out" by forgetting "what makes Apple Apple."
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There was a report in Politico EU that Telegram is avidly used by lawmakers, cabinet members, and presidential advisers in France, including Emmanuel Macron. Matthew Rosenfeld, the founder of Signal, commented on this, saying that Telegram messages aren't encrypted; they're stored on Telegram servers. This means the Russian Telegram team could access every message the French president has ever sent or received. Even if messages are deleted, Telegram could retain the data. This is a consequence of a lack of end-to-end encryption, right?
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Ben Thompson1:35
Yes, that's right. To be clear, this is how the vast majority of the internet works. Encryption in transit is standard now, like HTTPS for websites, but end-to-end encryption is different. With end-to-end encryption, messages are continuously encrypted between devices, so servers like WhatsApp can't read them. Apple pushes for end-to-end encryption by processing data on-device, which enhances privacy but imposes limitations. However, there's an expectation for companies to scan for child sexual abuse material (CSAM). Facebook scans for CSAM and reports it, but they're criticized for having that data. Apple doesn't actively scan, which is why they don't have CSAM reports. Telegram doesn't scan for CSAM or respond to warrants, claiming their data is spread globally. This failure to moderate and cooperate with authorities makes them a target. The situation highlights a painful trade-off: the capability to monitor everything versus privacy.
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Interviewer13:32
No, we got a good deep dive into encryption. As for why Telegram is so controversial, the fact that they're not participating in moderation, which has become a baseline expectation worldwide, and refusing to cooperate with authorities, makes it unsurprising that they became a target in France. Why Pavel Durov went to France knowing he was a target is an open question. In the first 24 hours after the news broke, many were worried about the implications for free speech on platforms worldwide. How do you think about those implications and what the arrest does or does not signify?
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Ben Thompson14:23
They're very real, legitimate concerns. In the analog world, AT&T isn't responsible for crimes committed using the phone network. But if they get a warrant for a wiretap, they must comply. Similarly, if Telegram gets warrants, they should deliver data, but they don't. The second point is more interesting: with computers, monitoring is scalable, unlike human listening. Do we want that capability to be leveraged, even to stop bad stuff? It implies companies listening to everything. This is a painful trade-off in the internet age.
