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“I think that sometimes you know it's it's hard to tell when the Music Stops but um there were a lot of things that felt sustainable actually really weren't so one was the grayscale trade which you know you're basically locking up your Bitcoin either into a trust and then you wait some period of time and you get the shares and you know we we had kind of thought well it's always going to be in premium or it's going to be or zero and then if it goes below they're going to allow redemption or they're going to approve it as ETF but what turn ended up happening is that there was this period where it was trading at Big Discount and they didn't improve ETF and so you were despite you put one Bitcoin into this trust the market uh because so many people had done the same trade they had decided to Value it at much lower than one Bitcoin it was as low as like half a Bitcoin for one Bitcoin trust and similar for for ethereum so that was something where I think you know the sizing on that should have been better um and at least um the kind of thinking about those scenarios”

Kyle Davies
Cofounder, Three Arrows Capital
Grayscale traderisk managementcrypto market crash

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From $3B Collapse to Meme Coin Kings: Zhu Su & Kyle Davies
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Try OxFun with less fees: https://ox.fun/x/handsome To get the best data onchain: https://www.stalkchain.com/ And to never trade alone: https://www.investorsboardroom.com/ Luna, Meme Coins, and the Rise of Oxfun: Inside the World of Crypto Trading In this episode, Kyle and Shu, founders of 3AC Capital and Oxfun, discuss their journey in the crypto world. They delve into the evolution and eventual crash of 3AC Capital, the rise of meme coins, and their current endeavors with Oxfun, a meme coin perpetual exchange. They explore the dynamics of the market, the shift in strategies, and their perspective on the future of meme coins in the crypto industry. The discussion provides valuable insights into trading, market psychology, and the ever-changing landscape of cryptocurrency. 00:00 Introduction to Meme Coins 00:12 Welcome to the Podcast 00:23 Background of 3AC Capital 01:51 The Downfall of 3AC 02:08 Lessons from the Crash 02:22 The Grayscale Trade 04:41 Impact of Luna Collapse 05:27 Terra Luna's Algorithmic Stablecoin 12:34 Restructuring and Bankruptcy 13:49 FTX and the Need for Restructuring 20:00 The Role of Meme Coins in the Market 20:36 The Concept of Oxfun 28:39 Portfolio Margin and Meme Coins 31:47 Understanding AUX Investors 32:10 The Rise of Retardio 32:34 Portfolio Margin Platform and Meme Coins 34:12 Meme Coin Supercycle 36:25 The Attention Economy 36:49 Three Arrows Capital V2 and Meme Coins 39:46 The Future of Meme Coins and NFTs 52:02 Building vs. Trading 56:48 The Fairness of Meme Coin Market 58:51 Concluding Thoughts Your key to massive success in crypto is here: https://www.investorsboardroom.com/ The trading bot I used to take profit and do copy trading automatically: https://handsome.finance/bot Let the joke continue on: Twitter: @antoinersx Farcaster: @antoinersx Instagram: @antoinersx Please remember Antoine (Handsome Finance) is a stand-up comedian. This channel is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. It is part of educational content, which you may or may not apply depending on your jurisdiction. Always consult a professional for legal advice. We may have affiliate partnerships with some tools presented, but the risk is always on you, the user. Be sure to read the terms and conditions to ensure it’s legal to use in your country. We are not liable for any losses that could occur. Lastly, while I have extensive experience in on-chain analysis, my performance is not a typical outcome. Most individuals lose money trading due to a lack of comparable knowledge. Proceed with caution.
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About Kyle Davies

Cofounder · Three Arrows Capital

Kyle Davies, co-founder of the bankrupt crypto hedge fund Three Arrows Capital (3AC), has given several interviews in late 2024. In a December 2024 appearance on the Future Money podcast, Davies stated he felt "awesome" about 3AC, describing it as a "10-year fund" with a "pretty wild 10-year period of success." He declined to apologize for the fund's bankruptcy, saying "companies go bankrupt, almost every company goes bankrupt." Davies said he and his co-founder Su Zhu are "still young" and "still think we can add value in various ways," including by telling "the next Three Arrows how to do things better when they go bankrupt." He also commented on the current crypto market, stating he is "very bullish" and that it is giving him "late 2019 / early 2020 vibes." Davies has also discussed his legal situation and current location. He stated he would not return to Singapore "immediately" to face potential jail time, but said "these things resolve at some point — there are settlements." Davies claimed he is in Europe and said he does not see a reason he could not return to the United States, where his family is, but has not done so. He attributed his and Zhu's failure to appear for a court date to their lawyers, saying "maybe we should sack our lawyers for not informing us about the court date." Davies also discussed his involvement in the failed project OpenX, which he described as an adviser role, and a new project called OX.

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