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“I think the public markets have overreacted — the meme is that with AI anyone can create software for near zero cost. That misses the point: the most valuable SaaS companies are valuable because they built network effects you can't replace by just building the same software for free.”

Jeremy Levine
Partner at Bessemer, Bessemer Venture Partners
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Jeremy Levine on AI Hype, Market Cycles & Playing the Long Game
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Jeremy Levine on AI Hype, Market Cycles & Playing the Long Game
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How does one of the most established venture capital firms in the world think about the so called “SaaS apocalypse”? Jeremy Levine of Bessemer Venture Partners joins the Newcomer Podcast to discuss the SaaS repricing, the acceleration of AI, and why venture capital remains a long game. We unpack whether SaaS is broken or simply reset after years of excess, and why AI companies are scaling faster than anything we have seen before. Jeremy shares his perspective on foundation model giants like Anthropic, the coming wave of robotics, and the unsolved manipulation problem that could define the next decade. We also discuss scale in venture capital, how AI is changing investing, and why, in Jeremy’s words, this is ultimately a patient person’s game. #VentureCapital #AI #SaaS #podcast 🎙️ New episodes every week! Subscribe and turn on notifications to stay ahead of the next big story. 👇 Watch more from The Newcomer Podcast:    • Newcomer Podcast   🔗 Read more at newcomer.co 🐦 Follow us: @NewcomerMedia If you want honest, insider analysis from the heart of tech and venture capital…you’re in the right place. Chapters: 00:00 Intro: Jeremy Levine 00:44 Where We Are in the VC Cycle 03:02 The SaaS Apocalypse Debate 07:05 Valuations 101 08:20 AI-Native Software Investing 12:11 Foundation Models at Scale 15:44 Sizing Bets and Anthropic 18:13 Agent Commerce and Marketplaces 20:34 Reimagining Travel with AI 23:00 Consumer’s New Front Door 29:15 Chatbots vs SEO 30:18 Building Sticky Distribution 32:02 The Future of Live Shopping 33:31 Prediction Markets and the Gambling Economy 37:41 The Robotics Roadmap 43:10 Why Scale Wins in Venture 48:30 Honest Founders vs Fake It 50:04 AI Inside the VC Firm 52:41 The AI Hype Cycle 55:00 Closing Thoughts
Jeremy Levine

About Jeremy Levine

Partner at Bessemer · Bessemer Venture Partners

Jeremy Levine, a partner at Bessemer Venture Partners, said on a February 2026 podcast that venture capital is a "patient person's game" and that investors seeking quarterly or annual returns are "in the wrong asset class." He described the current AI landscape as an "amazing time to be alive" but cautioned that most investments are a "slow burn process" until they appear to become large. Levine also stated that the idea that price does not matter in venture investing is "wildly flawed and lazy thinking," arguing that paying twice the price on deals would reduce a fund's return from 5x to 2.5x. Levine, who also founded and serves as CEO of the fantasy sports and gaming company Underdog, said in September 2025 that Underdog is "the fastest growing sports company ever" and projected nearly $500 million in revenue in its fifth year. He announced a partnership with Crypto.com to offer sports prediction markets in 16 states, stating that the move allows Underdog to offer betting on teams, which he described as the company's "top requested feature." Levine previously founded Star Street, a fantasy sports company that sold to DraftKings in 2014, and has described his early entrepreneurial experience as having "no money, no connections, and no technical background," including getting his first two engineers from Craigslist.

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