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Luis Von ahn on A/B testing

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“If we want to teach plurals before adjectives or adjectives before plurals, what we do is we just do a test for the next 50,000 people that sign up and then it takes about 6 hours to get 50,000 new users on Duolingo. So for the next 50,000 people that sign up, to half of them we teach them plurals before adjectives and to the other half at random we teach them adjectives before plurals. And then we measure which ones learn better and which ones stay for longer.”

Luis Von ahn
CEO & Co-Founder, Duolingo
A/B testingdata-driven educationuser retention

On , Luis Von ahn, CEO & Co-Founder at Duolingo, spoke about A/B testing during The Inventor of CAPTCHA’s Secret Language Hack | Learn Chinese 語言 [yǔ yán] | Luis von Ahn on ShaoLan: Chineasy & Lifeasy.

The Inventor of CAPTCHA’s Secret Language Hack | Learn Chinese 語言 [yǔ yán] | Luis von Ahn
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The Inventor of CAPTCHA’s Secret Language Hack | Learn Chinese 語言 [yǔ yán] | Luis von Ahn
Watch on YouTube at 6:29
Luis von Ahn, the visionary co-founder and CEO of Duolingo, joins ShaoLan to discuss the future of education and his surprising past as the inventor of CAPTCHA. In this episode, Luis reveals how he turned an "annoying" internet security tool into a global movement for book digitization and language learning. 🔥 Start learning Chinese FREE — download the Chineasy app: 🍎 iOS: https://apps.apple.com/app/chineasy-l... 🤖 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/de...\_share 🎧 Love this podcast? Try Talk Chineasy: Speak with Ease — our app for mastering conversational Mandarin: 🍎 iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/talk-ch... 🤖 Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/de...\_US ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Introduction: Guest Luis von Ahn, CEO and Founder of Duolingo 01:02 — The "Annoying" Genius: How Luis invented reCAPTCHA and helped digitize books 02:55 — The Birth of Duolingo: Scaling language learning to 120M+ users 03:50 — How to say "Language" in Chinese: 語言 / 语言 (yǔyán) 04:00 — Breaking down 語 (to speak) and 言 (words/speech) 04:44 — The 8 Branches: Understanding the Chinese language umbrella 05:37 — The Science of Learning: How Duolingo uses A/B testing on 50,000 people 07:19 — Efficiency: How 20-35 hours on an app equals a college semester Luis and ShaoLan dive into the word 語言 (yǔ yán). While 語 (yǔ) refers to spoken language, 言 (yán) is the act of speaking out. They explore the logic of how Chinese written forms (中文) unify eight different language groups, making it one of the most efficient systems in the world. 📖 KEY VOCABULARY: Language: 語言 / 语言 (yǔ yán) Chinese: 中文 (zhōng wén) Written language: 語文 / 语文 (yǔ wén) 👤 ABOUT THE GUEST: Luis von Ahn is the co-founder and CEO of Duolingo and a pioneer of crowdsourcing. A MacArthur Fellow and former CMU professor, he is a world-leading expert on how technology can make education accessible to everyone. 🎙️ ABOUT TALK CHINEASY: Talk Chineasy is a daily podcast hosted by ShaoLan, creator of the award-winning Chineasy method featured on TED. In each 7-minute episode, ShaoLan and a guest explore Chinese characters, culture, and language through stories that make Mandarin unforgettable. 300+ episodes available. 🔗 CONNECT WITH CHINEASY: 👉 Subscribe to Talk Chineasy on YouTube:    / chineasybyshaolan   🏠 Website: https://www.chineasy.com 📩 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/4qAP9Md 📸 Instagram:   / chineasy   👤 Facebook:   / shaolanchineasy   💼 LinkedIn:   / chineasy  
Luis Von ahn

About Luis Von ahn

CEO & Co-Founder · Duolingo

In recent interviews and earnings calls, Luis von Ahn stated that Duolingo has never conducted layoffs, despite what he described as rumors on the internet. He argued that AI makes individual employees more productive, which he said increases the return on investment from hiring. Von Ahn was quoted as saying, "AI is not going to take your job. Somebody using AI is going to take your job." He described an internal "golden rule" that Duolingo only uses AI to benefit learners, and noted that two employees without engineering backgrounds used AI to build a chess course in six months that became the company's fastest-growing course. Von Ahn discussed a strategic shift in 2026 toward prioritizing user growth over revenue growth, which he acknowledged led to lower revenue estimates and a negative reaction from the stock market. He said the company's daily active users grew 21% year-over-year in Q1 2026. Von Ahn also commented on the company's mascot, revealing that he personally wrote a notification message that reads, "These reminders don't seem to be working, so we'll stop sending them," which he said he did not intend to be manipulative. He added that Duolingo had a video concept where the owl would "try to kidnap people" but decided not to release it.

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