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Mark Bertolini on healthcare debt

From Interview: Oscar Health CEO Mark Bertolini · · Asymmetric Investing by Travis Hoium

“Last year, two out of five Americans, 40% of Americans, borrowed $74.9 billion from banks to pay their out-of-pocket costs for health care. $75 billion bucks. So, you know, that's what we need consumers to have the ability to do is to say, 'No, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do this.' And And so we need to give them the tools and the data in order to do it so that they can make these decisions.”

Mark Bertolini
Former Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, AETNA INC
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On , Mark Bertolini, Former Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at AETNA INC, spoke about healthcare debt during Interview: Oscar Health CEO Mark Bertolini on Asymmetric Investing by Travis Hoium.

Interview: Oscar Health CEO Mark Bertolini
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Interview: Oscar Health CEO Mark Bertolini
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Oscar Health ($OSCR) is an ACA insurance provider that's bucking the trends of the industry. Travis Hoium of Asymmetric Investing sat down with CEO Mark Bertolini to discuss how the company is operating differently, why technology is a differentiator, and business model changes that could make the ACA a win-win for businesses and consumers. Asymmetric Investing is built on proven frameworks and consistent analysis, which you can find here: 💰START HERE with a Free Asymmetric Investing Subscription: https://asymmetric-investing.beehiiv.... 📈INVESTORS Can See the Market-Beating Performance of The Asymmetric Portfolio: https://asymmetric-investing.beehiiv.... 🚀Invest on AutoPilot (home of the Pelosi Tracker): https://marketplace.joinautopilot.com... 📈Fiscal AI is the best tool in finance. Try it now: ​​https://fiscal.ai/asym 00:00 Meet Oscar Health 01:05 Tech First Insurance 02:05 Why ACA Works Now 04:14 Risk Adjustment Shift 06:14 ICHRA Explained 09:53 Fixing Cost Incentives 10:59 Lifestyle-Based Plans 16:03 Oswald And Lucy Tools 20:43 Growth Beyond ACA 24:22 Telehealth And Regulation 26:41 Churn And Member Loyalty 27:27 Investor Takeaways Wrap
Mark Bertolini

About Mark Bertolini

Former Chairman & Chief Executive Officer · AETNA INC

Mark Bertolini, CEO of Oscar Health, has been discussing the company's technology-driven approach to health insurance and advocating for changes to the U.S. healthcare system. In a May 2026 interview, he described Oscar as a "tech-first insurance company" that is "digitally native" with a single platform and data set, and stated that the company uses over 40 large language models and three agentic AI bots. He said Oscar operates solely in the ACA marketplace, covering about 3 million lives across 21 states, and noted that the company has reduced operating costs by a billion dollars while growing from 750,000 to 3.5 million members with the same number of employees. Bertolini argued that Americans are "fed up" with current coverage and that the shift from defined benefit to defined contribution models, such as ICHRA, will happen faster than the transition from pensions to 401(k)s. In a February 2026 conversation, Bertolini criticized the current health insurance model, saying it "conflates financing with investment" and that healthcare is the most expensive household line item with no consumer shopping ability. He proposed separating financing from investment through Roth IRA-like HSA accounts, allowing individuals to buy networks and plan designs that fit their circumstances. Bertolini also discussed his personal experience as a caregiver for his son, who was diagnosed with terminal cancer, and said this informed his perspective. He highlighted a new platform called Lucie, which aims to create a shopping experience for healthcare, and noted that six states have passed legislation to support this model.

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