Eric Boduch on venture studio
From The Side Quest with Eric Boduch · · GrepBeat
“We're working on a little we're working on on kind of our our third full year of of 24 and up. Now uh what 24 and up is a venture studio. So we co-create companies with entrepreneurs. So think of us as an unpaid co-founder. It's a good way to think about it. most co-founders basically. Well, even after they have funding, we're still unpaid. Yeah. We're we're one of those unpaid co-founders. Yeah. We like, you know, very hands-on. We help people find first customers, build that ideas. I go from an order. You we help people, you know, prototype, test new ideas, build that first version of the product, find first design partners and customers, and then go out and raise funding. Uh we're usually involved with companies for 24 months, hence the name 24 and up.”
On , Eric Boduch, Cofounder at Pendo, spoke about venture studio during The Side Quest with Eric Boduch on GrepBeat.
About Eric Boduch
Eric Boduch, cofounder of Pendo, appeared on the podcast *The Side Quest* on May 5, 2026, where he discussed his venture studio 24 and up. He described the studio as an "unpaid co-founder" that helps entrepreneurs prototype, test ideas, build initial products, find design partners and customers, and raise funding over a 24-month period. During the interview, Boduch offered several observations about the current startup landscape. He stated that "AI has thrown everything up" and that pattern matching, which was important in the "golden era of SaaS," can now be a "big negative." He also argued that "it's the golden age of product management," contrary to claims that AI signals the end of the role. Additionally, Boduch said that "design and product become more of a bottleneck than engineering," noting that tasks that once took six months can now be done in a day or two, shifting the bottleneck away from writing code.