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Joe Tsai

Chairman, Alibaba

Search every verified Joe Tsai interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote — each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. At the World Governments Summit in February 2026, Alibaba Group Chairman Joseph Tsai discussed the company's early survival strategy and his decision to join the startup in 1999, leaving a $700,000-a-year job for a salary of $600. Tsai said he was drawn to co-founder Jack Ma's leadership and belief in the potential of internet technology for China, and he described the initial vision as creating an English-language online bulletin board system for Chinese exporters. He attributed Alibaba's success to a refusal to fold during difficult periods, stating that the pressure to survive drove organic innovation. Tsai said that Alibaba's major businesses, including Taobao, Alipay, and its search-based advertising monetization system, were developed internally rather than through acquisitions. He credited Ma's teaching that "as long as you live another day, you have an opportunity to create" as a guiding principle, and noted that the company's early lack of capital made survival the primary focus.

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“I think it's really important that the US and China are in a high-tech competition. They're in a security competition, economic competition. And the reason is because China's become rich and powerful. And the United States does not tolerate pure competitors. We want to be the number one country. We want to be the most powerful country. The balance of power is to some degree a zero-sum game. Economics are not, but pow”

“I don't agree with that view of the world. I think it's really important that the US and China are in a high-tech competition. They're in a security competition, economic competition. And the reason is because China's become rich and powerful. And the United States does not tolerate pure competitors. We want to be the number one country. We want to be the most powerful country. The balance of power is to some degree ”

“AI is producing units of human intelligence and human productivity and if you look at global GDP over a hundred trillion dollars of GDP at least half of at 50 trillion dollars is about human productivity and human intelligence and that is the TAM of AI and that's why we're all in on AI.”

“I think you need to deploy it inside your own borders with your own power and roughly your own people and be able to use it for a handful of very useful and practical solutions to everyday problems — public health, governmental services and, most importantly, education.”

“If you look right now, the massive amount of capex investment that all the hyperscalers and model companies are making has doubled from roughly $60–$80 billion per company per year to $120–$150 billion, and with that scale it's kind of hard to think about ROI — I hate to be the CFO of one of these companies because they have to explain ROI to investors.”

“The New York Stock Exchange is, you know, well known and there was a lot of market liquidity. Most global investors, I think still today, are American or have American roots, so it was natural for us to sort of tap into the capital markets in the United States.”

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