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Sergio Ermotti
Group Chief Executive Officer, UBS

UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti on Earnings, Volatility, Credit Suisse

📅 Apr 29, 2025 Bloomberg Television 10 MIN 26 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti discusses the lender's performance in the first quarter as net income for the three months to March came ...

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:00Do you expect those trends to continue in the quarters ahead?
  2. 1:23Are they looking for different products, different asset classes?
  3. 2:41Is that volatility peak and volatility behind us now, do you think?
  4. 3:29Not for the clients themselves directly in their allocation, just as a function of markets movements?
  5. 3:56And is UBS benefiting from that safe haven status that Switzerland has as investors diversify out of the U.S.?
  6. 4:34What's holding the business back there and what does it look like by the end of 2025?
  7. 5:30And you're confident getting to that 15% within that time frame in the U.S.?
  8. 5:38Would you and the team be prepared to make structural changes, changes to the strategy to try to come to a compromise on this?
  9. 6:53But it is a potential risk to the buyback and the dividend plan as you look out to that 2026 goal?
  10. 7:36Is there a risk to flows during that process?
  11. 8:23Are you able to confirm that talks are taking place?
  12. 8:57But pushing into private credit is a key priority, and you'll be working on that?
Interviewer 0:00 ↗
Sergio, thank you very much for your time. A beat, of course, when it comes to profits in terms of revenue and the global markets team performing very well, the best quarter on record for them. If we were looking for soft spots, maybe in terms of the estimates, a bit of a mess when it comes to asset management and wealth, but the flows are still there. Earnings per share is a beat as well to those trends, particularly when it comes to the volatility that you've seen and the upside gains for the global markets team in the first quarter. Do you expect those trends to continue in the quarters ahead?
Sergio Ermotti 0:27 ↗
Well, first of all, I have to say that I'm particularly happy to see our results because they underline the real value of our global labor supply franchise. And also when you look at wealth management, Asset Management and Investment Bank both delivered a double digit pre-tax profit expansion. Our core business is at a combined 50% expansion. So I think that's of course we saw a little bit of seasonality, positive seasonality, particularly in the first few weeks of January. I think it's fair to say that afterwards the seasonality factors wear out and the high level of uncertainty and volatility did come in. But the most important issue is that if you go back in history, you can see how we can really perform in a variety of market conditions. Wealth management, clearly the biggest profit driver as it has been for a long time.
Interviewer 1:23 ↗
For UBS, how are your clients within wealth adjusting to the market turmoil or political uncertainty? Are they staying on the sidelines? Are they looking for different products, different asset classes?
Sergio Ermotti 1:35 ↗
Well, so far, we haven't really seen a major shift in asset allocation by clients. And when you look at the first quarter and the first couple of weeks in April, they took more advantage of market volatility to reposition their exposures within the already set asset allocation. When you look at the last couple of weeks, it's fair to say that probably there is a little bit of fatigue coming in from news, coming from the trade tariffs situation. But for the time being, despite a rather significant spike in volatility and huge volumes, we saw peaks in volume that exceeded the 30% of the COVID times in the first couple of weeks of the second quarter. So despite all of this, clients are quite calm and focused on managing within their asset allocation.
Interviewer 2:41 ↗
Is that volatility peak and volatility behind us now, do you think?
Sergio Ermotti 2:44 ↗
I don't think so. I think there is a little bit of settling down. I think markets have found probably a new dimension in terms of where to reconsider things from. And now it's going to be depending on the developments on the tariff front. I think that uncertainty is there. It's very positive to see that there are ongoing discussions in terms of finding agreements. Having said that, if this goes on for too long, uncertainty has also a cost and therefore probably investors and corporates will slow down their investment plans.
Interviewer 3:29 ↗
How are your private banking clients being impacted by tariffs? Not for the clients themselves directly in their allocation, just as a function of markets movements?
Sergio Ermotti 3:37 ↗
Of course we have a lot of clients who are also entrepreneurs or business owners and it depends very much where they are. So I think the tariff issue won't be a game in which everybody loses or everybody gains. Some people will be winners, some people will be losers.
Interviewer 3:56 ↗
And is UBS benefiting from that safe haven status that Switzerland has as investors diversify out of the U.S.?
Sergio Ermotti 4:01 ↗
I think the reason is not necessarily a geographic or booking centre issue. We are not seeing that kind of developments. I think it's fair to say that we are a global franchise. We have very important activities in booking centers in the US, but also when you look at Europe and Switzerland, you look at Asia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Japan. So our investors have been playing the diversification card for many, many years. So it's nothing really new.
Interviewer 4:34 ↗
Expanding wealth management in the US is a key priority for you and the team. There's still a bit of catch up with the likes of Morgan Stanley. What's holding the business back there and what does it look like by the end of 2025?
Sergio Ermotti 4:47 ↗
Well, we have a plan on how to bring our pre-tax profit margins in the US to mid-teens numbers. Our goal is to narrow the gap to our peers because of who we are and the size of our operation and the scope of our operation in the US. It's not realistic to think that we're going to close the gap with our main competitors. But within that, we believe that the ongoing efforts to work across many dimensions to improve profitability are going well. You look at the first quarter results, we had a 12% PBT margin, still short of the 15% we want to achieve in the next couple of years. But it shows that we are moving in the right direction.
Interviewer 5:30 ↗
Okay. And you're confident getting to that 15% within that time frame in the U.S.?

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Ermotti, S. (2025, April 29). UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti on Earnings, Volatility, Credit Suisse [Interview transcript]. Bloomberg Television. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1008967/

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Sergio Ermotti. "UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti on Earnings, Volatility, Credit Suisse." Bloomberg Television, 29 Apr. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1008967/.

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  title        = {UBS CEO Sergio Ermotti on Earnings, Volatility, Credit Suisse},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Bloomberg Television. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {apr},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1008967/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}