About Dani Reiss
In March 2020, Dani Reiss, President and CEO of Canada Goose, stated that the company was retooling its manufacturing facilities in Toronto and Winnipeg to produce personal protective equipment (PPE) such as scrubs and patient gowns for Canadian hospitals. Reiss said the company had the capacity to make tens of thousands of units per day and would do so for as long as necessary, adding that "the number one priority is to give back and to support Canada through this."
Reiss also stated that Canada Goose had laid off many employees, and that he had contributed his entire base salary to a fund established to support employees. He noted that other employees who remained working had also begun contributing their salaries to this fund. Reiss described the company's actions as setting "a great example for what great community engagement can look like."
Source: AI-verified profile updated from Dani Reiss's recent appearances.
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Dani Reiss0:00
From my experience, the Canadian brand is very strong and I think that many Canadian companies, even ones on a global stage, especially ones on a global stage, don't leverage the power of the Canadian brand.
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Goldie Haider0:17
Enough. Welcome to Speaking of Business, conversations with Canadian innovators, entrepreneurs and business leaders. I'm Goldie Haider, president and CEO of the Business Council of Canada. When Dani Reiss took over the family business 25 years ago, the words 'Canada Goose' weren't associated with high-end outdoor clothing, but they sure are now. Canada Goose has become an iconic Canadian brand that is known around the world. Its luxury clothing is coveted by movie stars, Arctic explorers, NBA players, and people just trying to get through a cold, long Canadian winter. But the company stands for so much more. For one thing, it's proudly made in Canada. For another, it has made sustainability central to its purpose. So it's perhaps no surprise that Canada Goose president and CEO Dani Reiss was recently named to Canada's Marketing Hall of Legends, an honor that recognizes visionaries, enablers, builders, and mentors. It's a great pleasure to welcome Dani Reiss back to the podcast. Danny, thanks for doing this.
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Dani Reiss1:24
Goldie, thank you so much for having me on again.
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Goldie Haider1:27
Is it Mr. Legend now? Like, how does this work? What is it? What's the honor of being a legend?
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Dani Reiss1:32
It's very, very funny. I think you could just call me Denny, that would be great. But in all seriousness...
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Goldie Haider1:35
I mean, how do you feel about being recognized in that way?
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Dani Reiss1:37
Recognition of this kind is always nice, Goldie. It's a tremendous honor to be included amongst a list of people who've been given this award over the years. Some people on this list are people I've looked up to for such a long time. It's something I never imagined would ever happen, looking back over the last 25 years. So it's a humbling experience and it says a lot about what we've been able to do and what the whole team of Canada Goose has been able to do really well.
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Goldie Haider2:06
It's interesting you say that. You know, it may have never happened, and the truth is it may have never happened because you really didn't want to do this. The younger you didn't want to be in the company that your grandfather had built, and that of course begs the question: what made you change your mind?
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Dani Reiss2:21
It's a great question and it's true. I never wanted to do this. I didn't go to business school and I was going to go traveling. I took a temporary role at the company, and my parents never really wanted me to do this either, so it was really a foregone conclusion I wouldn't do this. And that worked out well. But I realized that our product was important, it was authentic. I learned from people in Northern Canada, I learned from people that I showed the product to in Europe as well. My first job was calling on northern airlines in the Canadian hierarchy, and realizing that our product actually meant a lot to them, enabled them to live their lives. It was really an authentic product, and that meant a lot to me. The authenticity behind it has a lot to do with our success. Then I saw an opportunity. I saw a product that was only known in the furthest reaches of the world, and the people who knew about it loved it. I thought, if we can get more people to know about it, then more people would love it, and we could build it into a bigger company. So what started as a really small company, less than $3 million in revenue, turned into a global luxury brand out of Canada. Canada's only real luxury brand, sold all over the world now. We went from being an industrial brand to really turning this into a consumer brand.
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Goldie Haider3:44
Tell me more about that. Surely it would be easier for you to make this somewhere else in the world, certainly less costly. You've been able to be a contrarian that it can be done in Canada and there can be a market for things made in Canada, and that doing so is actually a value perceived value by your customers around the world. Are you surprised by that?
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Dani Reiss4:03
I'm not surprised by that, but it wasn't always that way. Made in Canada was something that, especially in Canada, many people thought Canadians don't care about made in Canada. In the early days, trying to sell Canada Goose products in Canada, going door-to-door on Queen Street, I was turned away a lot. People would tell me my stuff's too expensive, mainly because it was made in Canada. They said nobody cares about made in Canada anyway, and it was too warm. So we started selling products in Europe. When we started selling in Europe, our prices were much higher by the structure of how the sales structure worked, but the most important point was they really cared about the fact that it was made in Canada. To them, a Canada Goose jacket made in Canada is like a Swiss watch made in Switzerland. It's a quintessential Canadian product, and the place of manufacturing cannot be separated from the product itself. That is how we were seen at that point in time in that place in the world. We expanded that over time to be seen that way globally. As many companies left Canada to manufacture in other parts of the world, we decided we were going to stay made in Canada. We were small, not even working 12 months a year in the factory. We decided if we could stay made in Canada for five years while everybody else left, and if it's true that made in Canada was going to become more important in the future, then in five years we would have a massive competitive advantage because there would be nobody left making apparel or outerwear like us in Canada. It came true. It's played out exactly as advertised.
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Goldie Haider5:52
Well, you know, I've heard you talk about change. People in positions of leadership often have to manage the issue of change. I remember reading a billboard decades ago in Calgary on a church that said, 'The only one looking forward to change is a wet baby.' I heard you say that your job actually changes every year, and that change is something people need to have some comfort in embracing. What did you mean by that?
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Dani Reiss6:21
Our company, being a fast-growing entrepreneurial company, is one that is different every year. I've seen so many different generations and iterations of this company over time as we've grown from less than $3 million to well over a billion-dollar company. In the last 20 years, my job has changed so much. In the early days, I was doing cost sheets for a jacket by hand, then on Excel, and then I didn't do that anymore. I was the company's first customer service person. We've been through so many iterations. Even today at our scale and size, I always tell everybody who works at Canada Goose that things are going to change a lot. Your job will change. I warn people before they take a job at Canada Goose that this is a fast-paced, dynamic environment, and we have to be able to move with that. That's the kind of person that does well here. For me, my job has been different every year. I've had to restructure the way the executive team works many times. We just did one recently with the appointment of a president. Yes, we did.
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Goldie Haider7:31
All right, well look, you and I spoke earlier in the pandemic, so we won't get into the pandemic too much. But because we're talking about leadership and change, it's been a couple of years now. Canada Goose, partly through your involvement in the hospital board, like so many other CEOs on hospital boards, got a line of sight to the pandemic, got a line of sight as to how things were going to go, and you responded immediately with making critically needed PPE. Speaking of change, you had to change to do that. I note it was done at cost for healthcare workers. I don't want to get into the pandemic, but I want to ask you: what did you learn from the pandemic that you think is going to enable you to take the company to the next level?
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Dani Reiss8:14
We will always do the right thing. We always have done the right thing. That's been very important to us. It was a no-brainer for us to go and do the right thing for the country. What I learned about the country is that it's important that our country is prepared from a strategic point of view with whatever assets and capabilities it deems essential and strategic, so that should this sort of situation ever occur again, we don't find ourselves in the situation we did before. I do believe that our manufacturing infrastructure to manufacture apparel is unlike any in Canada, and I think that's a very important strategic advantage for our country. Our country needs to learn from that.
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Goldie Haider9:00
Let me build on that theme by asking about the role of business and government. I think I heard you say, or we've talked about this, that the role of business and government has changed. How so?
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Dani Reiss9:13
It's a very good point and it's extremely pertinent these days. Government used to be trusted and relied upon to cause change of all kinds—policy change, social change. I think people have realized the government can't do it at the speed they need to anymore, and people are relying more and more on companies to do these things. Things like sustainability, fighting climate change, social justice—those sorts of very important societal issues—companies have the ability to act quickly and make things happen much more so than governments. Governments get together and decide to cut emissions by a certain percentage in the next 10 years, and then hit half of that, meet again, argue and disagree, and have a hard time building consensus. Companies can just act and make things happen. Consumers realize the urgency of certain things in our society these days. Certainly from a sustainability point of view, Canada Goose is committed to doing that. I want us to be one of the leaders in apparel, making it not only more sustainable but very sustainable. We've pledged to be net carbon neutral by 2025, and we're going to hit that target. I think it's now the domain of companies. I don't think consumers are going to buy things from companies that are not good for the world. I don't think there's going to be a company left 20 years from now that isn't good for the world. I just don't think people are going to buy from those companies.
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Goldie Haider10:55
Well, let's hope you're right about that, because it's a challenge of our time. You're right that ultimately the pressure probably falls on the business community to be the innovators. Governments can set policies and frameworks. There's another alignment that comes across often between business and government, and that is this whole notion of short-termism versus long-termism. We're looking for governments to create a long-term economic growth strategy, for example, and they come back and say, 'Well, this is rich coming from a business community that measures its performance quarter to quarter.' How do we square that circle?
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Dani Reiss11:26
I know that for our business, we look at our business—we're a public company, we report in quarters, but we think in generations. We don't think in quarters. We have always tried to build and focus on building a long-term business that's good for the long term, sustainable, and going to be around for generations to come. That's the way we've always looked at our business, the way I've always made decisions. When we became a public company, I told the public markets that's the way we're going to look at this business and not make short-term decisions. This short-termism is not the way we look at our business. Hopefully our best investors understand that.
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Goldie Haider12:06
How are you positioned coming out of this pandemic? Are we back to normal for you? Are you still feeling that there's still risk ahead? How well positioned are you for whatever the future has in store?
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Dani Reiss12:19
I feel very confident. Obviously there are lots of things that are uncertain for everybody—we're living in very interesting times. But with regards to our business in particular, we're optimistic about the future. Our business is doing well. We just came off a year which will be the best year we've ever had. We have strong momentum heading into next year. I'm feeling very good about the future.
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Goldie Haider12:45
What's your sort of outlook on some of the geopolitical risks that have emerged around the world? There may well be areas where you had sales or you were looking to grow in. I'm assuming things going on out there are making you rethink.
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Dani Reiss12:59
I think that we are a global brand, so obviously there are macro factors that affect us. I'm optimistic by nature. I think this is where the role of government comes in. I think governments will resolve the horrible situation happening in Eastern Europe. I'm optimistic that diplomacy will resolve that. I'm optimistic that the current lockdowns in China will be resolved through political means. For us, our busy season is not right now, so we got lucky. The lockdowns in China are not having a material impact on our business at the moment. I'm optimistic that by the time it is important for us, the Chinese economy will be open and strong and continue to be one of the most important markets for our business.
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Goldie Haider13:57
But we are seeing, certainly down here in our neighborhood, our friends in the United States and others are looking inward, more protectionist. Some have suggested that new supply chains are taking form that will alter the way the world functions. Others have suggested economic balkanization is taking place, nearshoring, onshoring. People are saying we need to be careful what we wish for, that there are costs. Trade is central to all of this. How concerned are you that around the world trade seems to be attacked, international organizations are coming under attack, and there's a lack of trust?
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Dani Reiss14:48
I do think it's concerning, but I'm optimistic that at the end of the day, the economies of the world are too intertwined to disentangle. When you talk about reshoring, we're the original reshoring company—we've been making stuff in Canada forever. I'm not opposed to making things where they're supposed to be made. But I'm also a strong believer in globalization and global trade. I think that's imperative for all countries involved. I think the die is cast. The world's two largest economies, China and the United States, have different political systems but the same financial system, and they each need each other. You can't disaggregate them at this point in time, as much as some groups may suggest. I think it's too hard to do. There probably is a way for politicians to put together a framework that allows everybody to feel comfortable doing business together, even with different political systems. I don't think it's beneficial for the world to go back to isolationist, nationalistic ways.
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Goldie Haider15:59
The other issue that can become a political hot potato—we've been very fortunate that our political parties here in Canada have avoided the politicization of immigration. It's connected to labor market needs, skilling and reskilling, and housing. How are you managing what I know is a serious issue in terms of labor and skills?
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Dani Reiss16:26
Personally, I'm pro-immigration. I think it's important that Canada has a strong workforce and continues to grow. At Canada Goose, we've been training our own employees to become sewing machine operators. Many of them are new Canadians coming here as immigrants, and we're creating meaningful jobs for them, helping them and the economy. On another level, the nature of work has changed due to the pandemic. Businesses have to be open to the fact that people can do good work from home. We're looking at a hybrid model where people spend time in the office and also not in the office. I think that's a good thing; it creates a lot more flexibility. If used wisely, it can be an asset for companies.
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Goldie Haider17:22
About the fact that some people don't have that choice. There are about 60% of Canadians who have no choice but to go to work because they're providing services that require them to be there—chefs, waiters, garbage collectors, police officers, doctors, nurses. Then there's this other swath of society that says, 'I think I'll do it from home today.' Are you concerned at all about an inequality that might develop there?
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Dani Reiss17:45
That's a very interesting question and an interesting way of putting it. Within our own company, we have jobs that require you to be present—if you're a sewing machine operator, you have to be there; if you work security, you have to be there. Other jobs, like graphic design, you can do from home. Any time in history when there are transitions or inflection points, it can cause dislocation for a short period of time. But I think it'll work itself out. People will realize they can choose what kind of work environment they want and choose a profession accordingly. At this point, perhaps some people don't have that choice, but that's what happens when big change occurs. Like everything, this will settle itself out over time, and a new normal will emerge. I'm optimistic that new normal will be a good thing, and it has to be a sustainable thing.
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Goldie Haider18:57
Now, one of the things about Canada Goose—it's been innovative in the way it has developed its products and manufacturing. I want to come back and close on the issue that I know you're very passionate about: the climate crisis. You said that part of your purpose at Canada Goose is, and I quote, 'keeping the planet cold and the people on it warm.' What does that mean in practice?
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Dani Reiss19:26
It means dramatically reducing our carbon footprint, making our products sustainable. We're making great strides in changing the materials we use and the amount of carbon we emit. As I mentioned, we're committed to being net carbon neutral by 2025. That means taking lots of steps internally with our own operations and with our partners to achieve that objective. I think it's critical we achieve that objective. From a planet point of view, we have to achieve that. The majority of people realize that's an imperative right now. I don't think anybody is going to buy things from companies that aren't good for the world. Our intention is to be good for the world. We always were. We've been a purpose-driven brand since we started, and we're going to continue doing that, being good for the world, and hopefully many other companies will follow.
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Goldie Haider20:24
I know you make a lot of time for people. When you have a chance to speak to young emerging leaders, people who want to be the next Dani Reiss, what's the one piece of advice you give them?
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Dani Reiss20:42
It sounds simple, but you've got to do what you love. Do things that you believe in. When I joined this company, one of the reasons I stayed was because it was real and authentic. I did something that meant something. I didn't know it would lead to this. I didn't set out to be here today; it kind of happened to me. Sometimes your life chooses you, you don't choose your life. The most important thing is to do something you're really passionate about and that you get enjoyment from. Today more than ever, we've learned that life is precious, the world is a very fragile place. People need to make decisions that are healthy for themselves and healthy for the world.
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Goldie Haider21:25
Okay, last question. The one we're asking everybody on this season of the podcast: what is one big idea that you think could help transform Canada?
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Dani Reiss21:38
From my experience, the Canadian brand is very strong. I think that many Canadian companies, even ones on a global stage, especially ones on a global stage, don't leverage the power of the Canadian brand enough.
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Goldie Haider22:36
Well, some would say on the contrary. I've known Canadian companies to pretend they're American, though not so much anymore. Still, I think our brand is very strong. I know that our brand is very strong. People react very well to it. People love Canada, they love the image of Canada. Canada has a very big opportunity to take a leadership and thought leadership position on a global stage. People look at Canada, they romanticize Canada in a certain way, looking towards Canada as a beacon of hope. One big opportunity is to leverage that and become that thought leader in the world. Our brand can be a path to get to that point. What do you think our brand is? You're measuring this. What is it that people buy when they buy Canada?
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Dani Reiss22:41
I think that when people buy Canada, they buy authenticity, they buy honesty, they buy the perception of the great expanses of wilderness and natural resources, the imagery of the North and the Northern Lights. Part of it is romanticized, part of it is goodness. There's a lot of prestige attached to being Canadian. Every time I've traveled around the world in the last 20 years, I've found that we don't leverage that enough.
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Goldie Haider23:19
Touche, my friend. What a great place. Dani Reiss says double down on Canada.
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Dani Reiss23:24
Goldie, thank you so much for having me on again.
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Goldie Haider23:27
Well, we appreciate your time. Thank you for doing this. Pleasure. Dani Reiss is the president and CEO of Canada Goose. If you are enjoying our Speaking of Business conversations with innovators, leaders, and entrepreneurs, please give us a review. And if you're new to the podcast, why not subscribe? Search for 'Speaking of Business' wherever you get your podcasts, or go to our website at businesscouncil.com. Until next time, I'm Goldie Haider. Thanks for joining us.