About Guido Barilla
Guido Barilla, chairman of Barilla G e R Fratelli Spa, spoke at an assembly in 2015 about the company's history and challenges. He described the company's cultural shift toward listening to consumers, stating that many of their products now arise from consumer needs. Barilla noted that the first half of the year had been difficult, with Italy performing poorly, and expressed cautious optimism, saying he preferred to be prepared for hard times rather than be caught off guard.
Barilla also discussed the pasta market, characterizing pasta as a product of low value that is easy to stock up on. He said that pasta needs to regain value and consumer confidence, both in Italy and abroad. Reflecting on the 2008 commodity price volatility, he recalled that Barilla and other food companies faced significant technical and economic challenges, along with a wave of unfounded information about the situation.
Source: AI-verified profile updated from Guido Barilla's recent appearances.
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Transcript (44 segments)
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Announcer0:00
At this point, we give the floor to Guido Barilla and Andrea Cabrini.
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Andrea Cabrini0:13
Good evening, Chairman. Good evening, Guido Barilla. So, a video was planned...
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Narrator0:28
[Barilla promotional video] I don't think wheat is a blessing for man. You give me passion, and I return it generously. Today it's just me and my brothers in our little shop, but I feel we can improve, and if we manage to grow year after year, we should always keep one thing in mind: we owe the people what we'll give our children. And if we continue with passion, our pasta will always be better. Then we could perfect ourselves and perhaps become a famous pasta, maybe all over the world. For now it's a dream, but if there's passion, why not dream?
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Andrea Cabrini1:21
An industry assembly without a commercial wouldn't have been possible. Barilla, then—it will be difficult to surprise after what President Sassoli did, but I'm sure it will be interesting to understand how the world leader in pasta production, one of the most important Italian brands, moves within this world of phosphorescence and incandescence, this dream that started over 130 years ago. Now it seems the dream has become improving quality of life through products always different and closer to nature, reducing your impact on the planet while simultaneously doubling revenue. This is a dream from which one risks waking up abruptly—or have you structured it this way?
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Guido Barilla2:09
We structured it this way because the beginning of the dream was really that. Those who came before us—not just my father but generations before—in different ways always expressed this same idea: bringing better products, a better life, quality products at balanced prices to the people who consumed our products. It has always been the idea that accompanied the company's life and history. Today we're articulating it more precisely, more determinedly. Four years ago we launched our strategy now called 'Good for You, Good for the Planet,' which combines the values gathered over the years—historical values, scientific values, and everything we've recently learned.
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Andrea Cabrini3:06
But it was a radical choice—you really changed position. You also invested significantly in the Barilla Center for Food and Nutrition. Why would a producer and processor of raw materials decide to become a communicator that wants to provide information, create content, communicate with its audience differently, and suggest lifestyles?
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Guido Barilla3:31
In 2008, when there were major problems with food raw materials—great volatility and the doubling or tripling of raw material values—we had a moment of enormous difficulty, not just us but our colleagues in the food world. Beyond the technical and economic problems, we had a huge wave of unfounded information about food. Everyone was talking about food, food prices had become a fundamental topic, and everyone exercised themselves sharing opinions on food. We realized that ignorance was extraordinarily impactful. We were also professionally affected—Barilla, having to raise prices due to tripling grain costs, was accused of wanting to eat out of people's pockets, one of the most despicable accusations that can be leveled at a company trying to do serious work. So we decided to found the Barilla Center for Food and Nutrition. It was established in 2009, almost seven years ago. We've invested about twenty million euros and worked with 500 scientists worldwide on food problems—agriculture, sustainability, nutrition—360 degrees. One of the main results is this double pyramid, showing that the greater the use of products at the base—fruits, vegetables, cereals, oils—the lower the environmental impact. It's the inverse of the classic FDA food pyramid from the early 1980s.
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Andrea Cabrini7:16
But what is the industry's role in these paradoxes? How do industries respond? You've published a sort of textbook on how it should be done.
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Guido Barilla7:27
The industry begins by speaking to people more responsibly. All company communications start to have more structured information. Our packaging begins to include information not just about consuming more, but why—what substances the product contains, its environmental impact. Behind this informational model is the entire supply chain organization—from agriculture to transport to first and second transformation—working consistently. Each of us does our job, trying to produce new products of greater quality, sustainability, and balance.
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Andrea Cabrini8:34
But are you satisfied with the results so far and the direction you're heading? Because we continue to see very strong tension between the agricultural world and food production, between brands and distribution—a series of contradictions in the face of which major progress doesn't seem to have been made.
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Guido Barilla8:52
The direction is certainly the right one. But awareness of the great issues and problems we face is still light. Within systems and models, it's not yet truly understood what path to take.
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Andrea Cabrini9:11
One of the major debates concerns the impact on many listed multinational companies that must deliver demanding quarterly financial results. Very often, making truly sustainable choices that are compatible with this strategic direction involves significant costs, so the real work within society doesn't always match the promise.
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Guido Barilla9:49
But I think the path has been taken. The most serious global producers are all very focused on continuing, and the next ten years will be extremely important.
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Andrea Cabrini9:59
This represents one of the most significant changes for those here today. The transformation from an advertising company with advertising aimed at consumers to a knowledge center that addresses people to change lifestyles—what has this meant for your company, your organization, and your strategy?
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Guido Barilla10:24
It has meant a change over these ten years in the organizational structure, in most of the management. There's greater focus on these topics, and there's the cultural shift of deciding to spend more money, to allocate more resources to information that isn't exclusively commercial—not just 'we're launching this new product, consume it,' but allocating resources so brands can first of all become listeners and also interact with people. It's a long, non-immediate process that involves various steps. It's a path that's been taken.
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Andrea Cabrini11:13
You're talking about communication that goes in two directions. How are you preparing, and how are you listening to the reactions of the people you address?
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Guido Barilla11:25
Barilla was a 100% Italian company until the early 1990s. Today it's half Italian and half international. Going abroad, we began to understand that our offering wasn't necessarily the right one to solve problems for different countries and people. So we started questioning what we did, questioning our product portfolio and offering, to be closer to clients, distribution, and consumers. This was the first real cultural shift: opening up to new markets taught us that we didn't know enough, and from there dialogue began. We continuously receive stimulation from consumers—today many of our products are born from consumer needs. It's a much more uncertain world, not only because of geopolitical situations.
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Andrea Cabrini12:25
Furthermore, it seems to me that pasta is so fundamental that in Greece, after cash, the first thing to run out was pasta as families rushed to stock up. This says a lot about the product's value.
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Guido Barilla12:41
The product is perceived as the lowest-value item, the one you can stock up on most easily. But pasta needs to regain value and consumer confidence—pasta can give so much to people, not only in Italy but also abroad.
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Andrea Cabrini12:58
In this world described by President Sassoli de Bianchi, how do you give value to food? How do you build around food that knowledge—from the product to what it carries in terms of history and culture—that can improve the value chain from field to distribution?
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Guido Barilla13:19
Food is first of all about information. Through mature information, people must begin to understand what food means, what food supply chains mean, what producing quality eggs and grains means, what having livestock that produce quality animal products means. Today people think food is always available, always close to home, always at a low price. This is something everyone in the food industry needs to work on—we must give value back to food, which is losing it.
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Andrea Cabrini14:05
This is all an operation that also has a cost—you mentioned about twenty million for BCFN. Is the return on this investment currently greater or less than the cost of not doing this and risking being caught unprepared in a few years?
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Guido Barilla14:22
It's inevitable and we must continue on this path. It's a significant investment and it's necessary. There are companies that take other paths. We believe this is the only possible one.
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Andrea Cabrini14:40
We've heard about the importance of communication. I'd like to understand how you—as a company that started communicating when half of Italians couldn't yet read, that was among the first on carosello, competing for early TV spaces—how you navigate this new world. Which channels do you consider most useful for being heard?
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Guido Barilla15:04
We're still learning—there's no certainty yet in the direction. I think traditional companies like ours that are opening up to this extraordinary evolution still need to invest heavily in skills and knowledge. Digitalization of information still needs to truly penetrate organizations. Only with the new generation of management over the next ten years will we truly make a qualitative leap in information. It will take time.
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Andrea Cabrini15:39
In the meantime, when you look at communication budgets, how do you view the different channels at this moment?
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Guido Barilla15:45
Channels are multiplying enormously. We are a traditional investor that needs contact with people at various levels. Traditional communication remains fundamental for product positioning and launches, but we want to reach people in a much more targeted, refined way. We're working on programmatic in an increasingly precise manner, and I think we'll be able to allocate resources to all these alternative channels in the coming years. But for Barilla, advertising is fundamental. Barilla has lived on advertising. It's a company made of supply chain and advertising—the two foundational souls. It was born this way, it developed this way. We make great products, good products, but we have an extreme need to always communicate them with the values we believe in. For us, it's the soul—it's part of our existence.
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Andrea Cabrini16:46
What tool guarantees you listening and, above all, building the trust relationship and closeness to the people and consumers you address? What is that tool?
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Guido Barilla17:07
Within these different media we've discussed, for example the BCFN produces detailed, sophisticated content. The web has become fundamental for the BCFN—we hold a global forum every year summarizing the work, broadcast in streaming. The Barilla Center for Food and Nutrition has spread its expertise and knowledge especially through the web—that's the path we've invested in. But Barilla, with all its brands and product lines, must continue to communicate through the press to better inform about products, and television, radio, and so on remain fundamental.
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Andrea Cabrini17:53
Let me also ask about marketing. How do you see its evolution right now? You've written in the past that too much information moves us away from the creativity needed to guide people, and this excess of data that we trust too much takes us away from reality. The era of big data seems almost heretical, doesn't it?
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Guido Barilla18:13
It's not heretical. I think marketing needs to return to art, to sensitivity. We've passed through a moment of information oversupply—it was believed all campaigns and all information could be conveyed through certain data from analyses and studies. But we've seen that product launch mortality remains enormous—there's a huge death rate among supposedly innovative products. We need to return to greater sensitivity, to the real ability to listen to people's needs and respond with projects closer to humanity. Marketing has become too technologically detached from people's sensitivity. I'm not saying we shouldn't use tools, but we need to reinterpret how they give us information. We haven't improved in recent years—I'm talking about all consumer goods—in our ability to launch products that succeed.
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Andrea Cabrini19:28
Are you also about to launch new products?
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Guido Barilla19:32
We try to launch new products every year in all our categories. We're learning a lot. We've made quite a few mistakes—tried to relaunch product lines that we thought were mature.
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Andrea Cabrini19:46
What have you learned from these successes and failures?
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Guido Barilla19:49
Everything must be done at the right time. You really need to listen to what people say, even through weak signals. In our biggest recent successes, from the very beginning there were signals telling us 'you're doing something foolish—don't continue on this path.' And we were often stubborn in continuing blindly.
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Andrea Cabrini20:14
It seems there's a kit for pasta, if I'm not mistaken, that will be sold only via the internet—a pioneering experiment. Do you think this channel could help you? And you're also developing a new product called Cucina Barilla...
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Guido Barilla20:26
It's an oven we developed in collaboration with a partner over five or six years. It's a multi-purpose oven. The particularity is that you'll be able to buy capsules via the internet—not like coffee capsules, but containers with pre-mixed foods that can be prepared in the oven extremely quickly and with extraordinary quality. You can make pizzas, cakes, risottos, pasta, bread, and more. It's an extraordinary innovation—a concept like Nespresso brought to food. Are you sure it will be good for them and good for the planet, as the slogan says? I'm certain that for people who access the purchasing model through the internet, it will save on logistics, reduce movement, emit less CO2. People can make conscious choices with products delivered home. It's an extremely advanced project that, like all extremely advanced projects, risks being too far ahead in time—it may not succeed.
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Andrea Cabrini22:11
Before letting you go, there's one more brief video that encapsulates your 'Good for You, Good for the Planet' philosophy. Let's watch it together.
This is an experience that I know other multinationals are observing to figure out how to copy. Two final questions. We're at the beginning of the second half of the year—what signals are you seeing from your markets? From the Italian market, is there any glimmer of recovery? Sassoli de Bianchi mentioned 12%, which seems beyond what research centers currently estimate. Is there recovery or not—what does Barilla say?
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Guido Barilla25:18
I see our work, I know our data, and I follow what happens to us. This semester hasn't been simple. We continue to have an Italy that is particularly tough. We think we'll do at least as well as last year. It's still a complex year—perhaps some macro signals are starting to appear. Surely I can't say we're doing worse. I have good hopes, but my attitude is always that in hard times you tighten your belt and stay attentive. I prefer to be very ready and prepared for difficult times rather than be caught off guard.
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Andrea Cabrini26:06
In hard times, do you invest more or less in communication? What does your budget say?
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Guido Barilla26:10
We haven't changed much in all these years. We've been much more careful—done very serious and thorough work on management costs, that's certain. But our marketing budgets have been respected and have given us good results. We performed well compared to the rest of the market. I believe Barilla has been very well managed.
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Andrea Cabrini26:30
Thank you again to Guido Barilla, who will also have a press conference this afternoon on a completely different topic. Thank you.
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Guido Barilla26:36
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and good work.