Anything That Can Be Hacked Will Be Hacked | KOL's Meet With Ian Rogers For an Unfiltered Discussion

📅 Jan 13, 2026 Ledger 9 MIN 616 VIEWS 27 SEGMENTS · 7 SPEAKERS

Ledger CXO, Ian Rogers caught up with Gigi, Joey Moose and Professor Crypto a Ledger Op3n to talk: • Digital abundance vs digital scarcity • Why AI agents need crypto to transact • Quantum computing isn’t 20 years away • “Anything that can be hacked will be hacked” • Why secure screens & devices matter This is the future and it’s closer than you think. Check out our devices: shop.ledger.com

Questions asked in this interview

1:02We all have them, don't we?
1:06First question: if AI can mimic anyone, does digital ownership even matter anymore?
3:17Is fire inherently good or bad?
3:52Quantum computers will be maybe the end of crypto?
5:32Does a screen really matter that much?

Unknown 0:00 ↗

...hunting computers will be maybe the end of crypto.

Ian Rogers 0:02 ↗

Can we go back to my insecurities? Anything that can be hacked will be hacked. I have a ledger. You can be sure on me.

Unknown 0:08 ↗

I'm proving it.

Ian Rogers 0:09 ↗

Yeah. Having a secure screen is the only way to be sure what you're signing is really what you mean to be signing.

Interviewer 0:18 ↗

All right. Welcome. How you guys doing? What do you think? What do you think of the building?

Audience Member 0:22 ↗

Crazy, bro.

Interviewer 0:23 ↗

You saw the roof?

Audience Member 0:24 ↗

Yeah. Want to live here.

Interviewer 0:25 ↗

You saw the roof?

Audience Member 0:26 ↗

Yeah. Roof's wild. Building is insane.

Ian Rogers 0:28 ↗

It's amazing. It is the best view in Paris, right?

Interviewer 0:31 ↗

Well, um, tell us names and where are you coming from?

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APA

Rogers, I. (2026, January 13). Anything That Can Be Hacked Will Be Hacked | KOL's Meet With Ian Rogers For an Unfiltered Discussion [Interview transcript]. Ledger. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1046365/

MLA

Ian Rogers. "Anything That Can Be Hacked Will Be Hacked | KOL's Meet With Ian Rogers For an Unfiltered Discussion." Ledger, 13 Jan. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1046365/.

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  title        = {Anything That Can Be Hacked Will Be Hacked | KOL's Meet With Ian Rogers For an Unfiltered Discussion},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Ledger. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jan},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1046365/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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Key Quotes (2)

“AI brings digital abundance and blockchains bring digital scarcity. And therefore, one is, you know, one is the mirror image of the other or the yin and the yang or the other side of the coin.”

▶ 1:37

“Anything that can be hacked will be hacked. So what you're really trying to do is to minimize the blast radius. It's more a question of what happens if it's hacked. Like if it's hacked, what can you get access to?”

▶ 5:20

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About Ian Rogers

Ian Rogers, Chief Experience Officer at Ledger, appeared in two recent podcasts. In a November 2025 episode of the GoPro Podcast, he discussed his career in music and technology, including his work with the Beastie Boys, Yahoo Music, Topspin, Beats Music, and Apple Music, as well as his current focus at Ledger on digital ownership. He also spoke about the importance of creativity and being "tier one" for a specific audience, citing LVMH's Bernard Arnault as an example. In a separate conversation with Justin Aversano and Hedvig Maigre, Rogers discussed digital art and collecting, stating that the earlier digital art market was a "speculative bubble" rather than an art collector bubble, and that organic collecting would need to grow over time. Rogers also shared his views on the future of work, saying he believes people will increasingly delegate to AI workers, and that AI changes the relationship between labor and capital. He reflected on his time at Apple, noting he was relieved to leave but later missed the adrenaline of the work. In the podcast with Aversano, he also mentioned sending a Polaroid to an artist's blockchain wallet and discussed music recommendations, including records by Salt, Sudan Archives, and Rochelle Jordan.

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