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Benjamin Diokno
Former Governor, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas

Ben Diokno on ayuda, flood control, inflation, and PH growth | Thought Leaders with Cathy Yang

📅 Jul 02, 2026 One News PH 46 MIN 520 VIEWS 34 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
#ThoughtLeaders | Former BSP governor and finance secretary Benjamin Diokno weighs in on the Philippines’ economic challenges — from the flood control corruption scandal and weakened public confidence to the quality of government spending, rising ayuda allocations, and delayed infrastructure projects. Diokno also discusses inflation, oil price risks, the BSP’s role during crises, and why President Marcos’ next SONA may be a “moment of truth” after his “Mahiya naman kayo” warning. #OneNews #LongConversation Subscribe to One News PH here:    / onenewsph   Find One News PH here: https://onenews...

What Benjamin Diokno said

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Benjamin Diokno, a Monetary Board member and former BSP governor, said the current oil shock is manageable compared to the pandemic, predicting a supply glut within six months to a year as Iran, the UAE, and U.S. sources add over 5 million barrels per day. He called the flood control corruption scandal worse, citing a 31.5% contraction in construction in Q1 and eroded investor confidence. He argued for sustained infrastructure spending of 5-6% of GDP, criticized the shift to 'ayuda' in the budget, and noted the medium-term expenditure framework targets (3% deficit by 2028, 60% debt-to-GDP) have been missed, with debt at 65.2% and deficit at 5.3%. He blamed the president for not using line-item veto power, urged immediate cuts to LPG and kerosene excise tax suspensions, and stressed the need for 6% growth over the next decade.

Key takeaways

  1. Predicted oil supply glut within six months to a year, with over 5 million barrels per day from Iran, UAE, and U.S. sources.
  2. Called flood control scandal worse than oil shock, citing 31.5% Q1 construction contraction and eroded confidence.
  3. Said infrastructure spending should be 5-6% of GDP, but current budget prioritizes 'ayuda' over projects.
  4. Recommended immediate end to LPG and kerosene excise tax suspension due to fiscal slippage.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
5 million barrels per day additional oil supply forecast from Iran, UAE, and U.S. metric 1:09
31.5% Q1 construction contraction metric 3:22
5-6% of GDP recommended infrastructure spending guidance 3:22
6% target annual growth for next 10 years guidance 6:44
3% of GDP budget deficit target by 2028 guidance 9:22
60% debt-to-GDP ratio target guidance 9:22
65.2% current debt-to-GDP ratio as of Q1 metric 10:32
5.3% of GDP projected fiscal deficit metric 10:32
4.3% of GDP DBM infraspend forecast metric 10:32

Chapters

  1. 0:00Oil shock and supply glut forecast
  2. 3:22Flood control scandal impact
  3. 6:44Growth target and economic reforms
  4. 7:52President's corruption accountability
  5. 9:22Medium-term expenditure framework
  6. 11:08Budget quality and ayuda
  7. 12:15Fiscal recommendations and tax policy

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:52What's it like being a monetary board member given that we're facing twin shocks right now?
  2. 3:03That supply glut aside, do you give some sense of comfort to the Monetary Board that you just said this is nothing compared to the pandemic?
  3. 3:16But if you compare the oil shock with the flood control corruption scandal, what is worse?
  4. 5:01And after the scandal, with stricter payment validation, how do we get beyond that when trust has already been broken?
  5. 6:34Now, is growth a bigger concern for you than inflation?
  6. 7:35Looking back at the president's State of the Nation address last year where he said he would not tolerate corruption, what is your assessment a year on?
  7. 8:41So how can he walk back when he takes the stage again on July 27?
  8. 9:11As an economic planner, what have you done to align with the president's cleanup?
  9. 11:50Is the framework as good as dead?
  10. 12:05If it's unachievable, what would you recommend to get back on track?
  11. 13:43How much ayuda is good for a citizenry hit by an oil shock, and how much is already bad and eating into infrastructure spending?
  12. 15:10Should he continue the suspension given fiscal slippage?
Kathy Yang 0:00 ↗
His government journey spans four decades across budget, central banking, and finance under four Philippine presidents. He is a former BSP governor and finance secretary who now sits as a full-time member of the Monetary Board. He joins us at a moment a Middle East shock is threatening the Philippines' hard-won human development gains, and as a flood control corruption scandal raises questions about how public money is spent, how trust is protected, and how economic policy can still work under stress. With us now on Thought Leaders, Bangko Sentral Monetary Board member Benjamin Diokno. So good to see you, MBM.
Benjamin Diokno 0:38 ↗
Good to see you. Sure.
Kathy Yang 0:39 ↗
Welcome to the program. I'm still used to calling you Gov Ben because that was the last time we spoke before today.
Benjamin Diokno 0:46 ↗
All right. The people at BSP call me GSM.
Kathy Yang 0:49 ↗
And what does that mean?
Benjamin Diokno 0:50 ↗
Governor, secretary, and monetary board member.
Kathy Yang 0:52 ↗
All right, that covers the career span that you've had. What's it like being a monetary board member given that we're facing twin shocks right now? There's the oil shock and also the economic after-effects of the flood control corruption scandal.
Benjamin Diokno 1:09 ↗
To me, being the governor during the pandemic, this is nothing. I was governor during COVID-19, so this is nothing. If you compare oil prices, during the first OPEC shock under Marcos Sr., the price should have been $300–400 per barrel. Right now, it went up to 120 at its peak. My forecast is a supply glut in the medium term: Iran will add half a million barrels per day, the UAE has an extra million and is leaving OPEC, and new U.S. sources will bring another 2.8 million barrels per day. So easily 5 million more barrels per day will come on stream. On the demand side, electric vehicles are gaining ground and China has stopped buying oil for inventory. I think there will be an oversupply within six months to a year.
Kathy Yang 3:03 ↗
That supply glut aside, do you give some sense of comfort to the Monetary Board that you just said this is nothing compared to the pandemic?
Benjamin Diokno 3:13 ↗
Yeah. Yeah. It's nothing compared to the pandemic.
Kathy Yang 3:16 ↗
But if you compare the oil shock with the flood control corruption scandal, what is worse?
Benjamin Diokno 3:22 ↗
That's worse. The flood control shock means loss of confidence. Credibility is very important. Also, construction contracted by 31.5% in the first quarter, and I wouldn't be surprised if it contracts more in the second quarter. Things are not moving. Infrastructure was my focus during the Duterte years because for 50 years we spent less than 2% of GDP on it. I said we should set aside at least 5–6% of GDP for infrastructure, which is why we have projects like the Manila subway and the north-south rail system. We should continue that for the next 20 years.
Kathy Yang 5:01 ↗
Should continue, but when you look at the DBM forecast, it's at 4.3% of GDP for infraspend. And after the scandal, with stricter payment validation, how do we get beyond that when trust has already been broken?
Benjamin Diokno 5:27 ↗
This is the major challenge for the new DPWH secretary. He told the bureaucracy they're no good, so trust is eroded. People fear signing documents. I foresee projects will start moving by the first quarter of next year because procurement is tedious. The loss of confidence in domestic and foreign investors will slow economic growth.
Kathy Yang 6:34 ↗
Now, is growth a bigger concern for you than inflation?
Benjamin Diokno 6:44 ↗
I think we have to continue to grow—maybe 6% for the next 10 years. That's possible if we make major changes in the economy, like fixing the bureaucracy. Leadership should be fully committed to strong growth without worrying about politics or who will succeed them.
Kathy Yang 7:35 ↗
Looking back at the president's State of the Nation address last year where he said he would not tolerate corruption, what is your assessment a year on?

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Diokno, B. (2026, July 2). Ben Diokno on ayuda, flood control, inflation, and PH growth | Thought Leaders with Cathy Yang [Interview transcript]. One News PH. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1055784/

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Benjamin Diokno. "Ben Diokno on ayuda, flood control, inflation, and PH growth | Thought Leaders with Cathy Yang." One News PH, 2 Jul. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1055784/.

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