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Benjamin Diokno
Former Governor, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas

Ben Diokno on the BSP’s 50-basis-point rate hike and the Supreme Court budget ruling | Business 360

📅 Oct 22, 2026 Bilyonaryo News Channel 16 MIN 12986 VIEWS 48 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
The Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) has raised its key policy rate by 50 basis points to 5.5% amid mounting inflation risks, while a Supreme Court ruling on unprogrammed appropriations raises new questions about government spending and fiscal accountability. BSP Monetary Board Member and former Finance Secretary Ben Diokno joins us to discuss both developments and what they could mean for the Philippine economy. Diokno shares his assessment of the BSP’s latest rate hike, the inflation outlook, and the prospects for economic recovery in 2027. He also weighs in on the Supreme Court’s ruling...

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Benjamin Diokno defended the BSP's 50-basis-point rate hike to 5.5%, citing stubbornly high inflation at 7.2% and widespread regional increases. He expects inflation to return to the 3% target by 2028, with oil prices potentially staying high through 2027 due to the US-Iran conflict. He stressed that monetary policy alone cannot fix the economy, calling for bolder fiscal reforms and closer coordination. Regarding the Supreme Court decision on unprogrammed appropriations, Diokno agreed with the ruling, saying it reasserts fiscal rules eroded over time. He explained the distinction between programmed, automatically appropriated, and unprogrammed appropriations, noting that the latter has ballooned recently. He highlighted the Court's ban on lump-sum unprogrammed appropriations, requiring specificity and a prioritization schedule, and said the bicameral conference committee's insertion of P449 billion in 2024 was a grave abuse of authority. He predicted unprogrammed appropriations will shrink to focus on foreign-assisted projects, ending lawmakers' pork barrel.

Key takeaways

  1. Diokno justified the 50-bp rate hike to 5.5% due to inflation at 7.2% and expects a return to 3% by 2028.
  2. Diokno said monetary policy alone is insufficient, calling for bolder fiscal reforms and closer coordination.
  3. Diokno agreed with the Supreme Court striking down unprogrammed appropriations, saying they have ballooned and allowed pork barrel.
  4. Diokno said unprogrammed appropriations will return to a small amount focused on foreign-assisted projects, ending pork barrel.
  5. Diokno noted the bicameral conference committee's insertion of P449 billion in 2024 was a grave abuse of authority.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
5.5% BSP key policy rate after 50-bp hike metric 0:22
3% Target inflation rate metric 0:39
2028 Target year for inflation to return to 3% timeline 0:39
449 billion Amount inserted by bicam in unprogrammed appropriations for 2024 commitment 12:06
150 billion pesos Unprogrammed appropriations for 2026 that DBM is prohibited from releasing metric 13:48

Chapters

  1. 0:00Rate hike rationale
  2. 1:51Oil price outlook and future rate moves
  3. 2:50Fiscal coordination
  4. 3:36Supreme Court ruling on unprogrammed appropriations
  5. 6:17Budget categories explained
  6. 9:23Historical budget process and pork barrel
  7. 10:57Specificity and safeguards
  8. 12:06Bicam abuse of authority
  9. 14:22Impact on 2026 releases
  10. 15:30Implications for future budgets

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:22What was the reason behind that?
  2. 1:14So is this what triggered the sense of urgency that BSP Governor Remolona stated?
  3. 2:20Is that the sentiment of the BSP?
  4. 3:10So if the economy picks up, it's possible that you will bring down rates?
  5. 3:36Do you agree with the decision stating that unprogrammed appropriations for 2024, 2025, and 2026 are unconstitutional?
  6. 5:31So, just briefly, sir, what are unprogrammed appropriations?
  7. 7:43... why unprogrammed appropriations were created to begin with was to give the budget department, or for the national budget, to have flexibility and be able to obligate projects even while waiting for sources of funding. Is that correct?
  8. 8:58Is that the reason why Congress was able to move things around from programmed to unprogrammed, such as for example in 2024 they moved the UACTE, or the Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education?
  9. 11:40Does there have to be a law that will be passed moving forward, or is it enough that there would be, say, a DBM circular?
  10. 13:12There was another thing that was mentioned in the decision, which is that effectively what they did with the unprogrammed appropriations was that they increased the budget beyond what the president's budget allowed. Is that correct, sir?
  11. 14:22So what will the effect on the economy be of that, considering that at the moment we already need to do more spending?
  12. 15:30What should they have in mind moving forward?
Host 0:00 ↗
The BSP has turned more hawkish on inflation while the Supreme Court has struck down congressional increases in the recent national budget. We discuss both developments with BSP monetary board member and former finance secretary and former budget secretary, and former Central Bank Governor, Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas Governor Benjamin Diokno. Good morning, Ben.
Benjamin Diokno 0:20 ↗
Good morning. It's nice to be here.
Host 0:22 ↗
Thank you so much. We have so much to talk about this morning. I don't know if we'll have enough time, but hopefully we'll just do this as quickly as possible. First of all, the BSP has turned more hawkish and has aggressively increased its key policy rate by 50 basis points to 5.5%. What was the reason behind that?
Benjamin Diokno 0:39 ↗
The inflation has been stubbornly high. In fact, the latest number is 7.2. And it's not only high, it's widespread. If we have inflation by region, all regions were high. The lowest is NCR, surprisingly, but most regions are really that high. And we want to make sure that, given that high inflation, we should be back to our target inflation rate of 3% by maybe in a year, in two years, maybe by 2028.
Host 1:14 ↗
At the last increase in policy rate last August, it was forecast that inflation would kind of taper down come 2027. But it seems now, at the press conference yesterday of the BSP, DG Zeno had said that the forecast for inflation, while it is still 6.1 for 2026, for 2027, initially last August you had said it would be 5.4, but now it will also be maintained at 6 before it goes down to 3.3 in 2028. So is this what triggered the sense of urgency that BSP Governor Remolona stated?
Benjamin Diokno 1:51 ↗
That's right. We're looking at Q4, the fourth quarter, and the first quarter of next year, and it's still high and could go even higher because I think that is also the forecast of many analysts. They were forecasting a quick resolution of the US-Iran war, but it looks like oil prices will be around for another, maybe for the entire 2027.
Host 2:20 ↗
And there's an analyst earlier who said that you might also increase once again in December. However, going back to what the BSP governor had said in his press conference yesterday, he said that domestic economic activity is expected to recover and so you are leaving room for you to adjust. So I take this as kind of a statement that this monetary policy must be met with fiscal policy action as well. Is that the sentiment of the BSP?
Benjamin Diokno 2:50 ↗
Correct, correct. I always say this: monetary policy is not the only game in town. I think there's greater responsibility on the part of the fiscal authorities. So we expect them to do more bolder reforms so that we can at least have closer coordination between monetary and fiscal authorities.
Host 3:10 ↗
From what BSP Governor Eli Remolona said in his statement, the one that I picked up most is he said that we will act as necessary. So if the economy picks up, it's possible that you will bring down rates?
Benjamin Diokno 3:21 ↗
Yeah, there's always that possibility that we might bring down rates in 2027, but we can't talk about that at this time because things are really depressing. Let's put it that way.
Host 3:36 ↗
Depressing. Yes, parang the economy is being hit from all sides right now. Speaking of fiscal policy, let's now go to the great decision of the Supreme Court on the unprogrammed appropriations. This has been a much anticipated decision by Supreme Court Associate Justice Leonen and a lot of the Supreme Court Justices, although they each had their own concurring or dissenting opinions, it was predominantly in favor of the decision of Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Marvic Leonen. Do you agree with the decision stating that unprogrammed appropriations for 2024, 2025, and 2026 are unconstitutional?
Benjamin Diokno 4:15 ↗
Agree. I agree. I'm one of the...
Host 4:17 ↗
And you were one of the amicus curiae.
Benjamin Diokno 4:19 ↗
Amicus curiae. I think we should read this decision by the Supreme Court and we should welcome it in relation to the three recent decisions by the Supreme Court. The first one is Belgica versus Ochoa, right? Where they had comments on the way the budget was implemented under President Aquino. This is under Pinoy, Aquino, Pinoy. And then the most recent one is in terms of their decision on the transfer of funds from...
Host 4:53 ↗
The December 5, 2025 decision.
Benjamin Diokno 4:55 ↗
PhilHealth funds. Right. And then the most recent, and I think we should look at it in the context of... We should be happy that we have a Supreme Court who's willing to take bold moves, because if you read the Constitution, there are really some fiscally responsible rules there. But over time, these rules have been eroded through acts by Congress and the President. And now at least the Supreme Court is saying, 'Look, this is how we should interpret those fiscal rules.' And I think we should welcome...
Host 5:31 ↗
Just for those who are unfamiliar with the budget system of the Philippines, maybe we could just give them briefly a bird's-eye view. What are unprogrammed appropriations versus programmed appropriations? And in fact, in the decision, Justice Leonen took pains to explain the history of it, that it started in 1987, why it was introduced, and he even quoted you. And he went through each of the years showing how in the previous administrations the increase in the appropriations between the national expenditure program or the president's budget versus the general appropriations from Congress, where it increased massively just in the past few years. So, just briefly, sir, what are unprogrammed appropriations?
Benjamin Diokno 6:17 ↗
All right, there are three chunks of appropriations under the budget. One is the programmed, where it can be released after day one of the approval of the budget. The other one is the so-called automatically appropriated, which means it doesn't have to be approved by Congress, like debt servicing. That doesn't have to be approved by Congress, or the internal revenue allotment for LGUs, local government units. It doesn't have to be approved by Congress. And it's now NTA, right? But it is presented in the budget just to complete the picture. And then the third one is the unprogrammed appropriation, which is a contingent appropriation. And at the very start, we only used this for foreign-assisted projects, because there are many foreign-assisted projects which during the budget preparation phase are not yet completed, but we are very confident that it will be completed in the year the budget is going to be implemented. So, just in case it's implemented or it's completed, we want a standby appropriation. So that's the nature of the unprogrammed appropriation. And you're right, it started as a very small part of the total budget, and it has ballooned, right? And in the last three years, 2023, '24, and '25, it has really gone wild.
Host 7:43 ↗
My understanding of the reason why unprogrammed appropriations were created to begin with was to give the budget department, or for the national budget, to have flexibility and be able to obligate projects even while waiting for sources of funding. Is that correct?
Benjamin Diokno 8:03 ↗
No, but you need funds because the Constitution is clear. You have to have funds to authorize the release from the unprogrammed appropriations. And I thought the first two items there are kind of difficult to comply with. For example, one provision is that we have to have excess revenues from taxes. That's A, right? And B, we have to have excess income from non-tax revenues.
Host 8:36 ↗
New revenue sources.
Benjamin Diokno 8:37 ↗
The third one is the foreign-assisted projects. The Supreme Court said A and B are unconstitutional. C is constitutional. Yeah.
Host 8:48 ↗
And also, it was very clear from Justice Leonen's decision that there should be very clearly differentiated conditions...
Benjamin Diokno 8:58 ↗
Correct.

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Diokno, B. (2026, October 22). Ben Diokno on the BSP’s 50-basis-point rate hike and the Supreme Court budget ruling | Business 360 [Interview transcript]. Bilyonaryo News Channel. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3125507/

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Benjamin Diokno. "Ben Diokno on the BSP’s 50-basis-point rate hike and the Supreme Court budget ruling | Business 360." Bilyonaryo News Channel, 22 Oct. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3125507/.

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  author       = {Benjamin Diokno},
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  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Bilyonaryo News Channel. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {oct},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3125507/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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