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Kevin Hassett
Director, National Economic Council of the United States

Hassett Says US Jobs Still on 'Upward Trajectory'

📅 Jul 02, 2026 Bloomberg Podcasts 8 MIN 1355 VIEWS 20 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Kevin Hassett, director of the White House National Economic Council, said that US jobs are still on an 'upwards trajectory' after employment data came in under estimates. US hiring slowed sharply in June, only adding 57,000 jobs. The drop was led by the biggest decline in leisure and hospitality payrolls since 2020. -------- Watch Bloomberg Radio LIVE on YouTube Weekdays 7am-6pm ET Saturday & Sunday 7am-10am ET WATCH HERE: http://bit.ly/3vTiACF Follow us on X:   / bloombergradio   Subscribe to our Podcasts: Bloomberg Daybreak: http://bit.ly/3DWYoAN Bloomberg Surveillance: http:/...

What Kevin Hassett said

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Kevin Hassett, Director of the National Economic Council, defended the June jobs report as part of an 'upward trajectory,' citing a construction boom from the 'big beautiful bill' that allowed expensing of factory construction. He argued that once factories are turned on, job gains will return to the 200,000 range, and that lower illegal immigration reduces the break-even job number. Hassett pushed back on the idea that the Fed needs to cut rates, explaining that positive supply shocks from AI increase output without inflation, unlike Biden-era stimulus checks. He defended his Fox comments about Fed members voting against Trump, citing a 175 basis point rate cut from late 2024 through 2025 as evidence of moving toward normalcy. Hassett expressed concern about former Chair Jay Powell's continued presence, called it 'unorthodox,' but said the White House respects Fed independence under Kevin Warsh. He declined to comment on Lisa Cook's case, deferring to courts and law enforcement, and praised the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential authority over agency heads.

Key takeaways

  1. Hassett said the job market is on an 'upward trajectory' with three of the last four months surprising on the upside, despite June's 57,000 jobs miss.
  2. He argued that factory construction expensing in the 'big beautiful bill' is driving a record construction boom, with jobs expected to return to 200,000 range once factories turn on.
  3. Hassett said the Fed cut rates by 175 basis points from late 2024 through 2025, which he cited as evidence of moving toward normalcy, not against Trump.
  4. He called former Fed Chair Jay Powell's continued presence 'extremely unorthodox' and expressed concern about his motivations.
  5. Hassett said the White House has 'none whatsoever' concerns about partisanship at the Fed since Kevin Warsh became chair.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
57,000 June jobs added, missing expectations metric 0:00
4.2% June unemployment rate metric 0:00
200,000 Monthly job gains expected once factories turn on guidance 0:35
3% Economic growth rate Hassett says the administration expects guidance 0:35
175 basis points Fed rate cuts from late 2024 through 2025 metric 3:41
3.3% Core PCE inflation in April metric 6:02
4% Headline inflation in May metric 6:02

Chapters

  1. 0:00June jobs report and construction boom
  2. 1:47Fed rate cuts and supply shocks
  3. 3:03Defending Fox comments on Fed partisanship
  4. 4:32Concerns about Jay Powell's presence
  5. 5:23Lisa Cook case and court deference
  6. 6:02Inflation data and Fed partisanship
  7. 6:51Kevin Warsh's forward guidance approach
  8. 7:42Supreme Court ruling on agency heads

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:00Would you agree? Unimpressive but stable?
  2. 4:32Are there certain members of this Federal Reserve that you are in particular concerned about? Director Hassett?
  3. 4:59Should there be methods, much like with Lisa Cook, just to see if changes can be made to this FOMC to again, in your words, remove people who you have concerns are moving more along politics than data?
  4. 5:29Are there going to be continued actions there?
  5. 5:51So does that mean you still are active in this case against Lisa Cook?
  6. 6:02Where else are you seeing some concerns of partisanship, or at least dismay or direct action that seems to be against this president, really?
  7. 6:51And is the White House concerned at all about market volatility that might arise from that?
  8. 7:42Is there anyone else you are concerned about at some of these agencies that you would like to see let go?
Interviewer 0:00 ↗
The U.S. economy added 57,000 jobs in June that missed expectations, even though the unemployment rate came in at 4.2%. The expectation was 4.3%. Let's bring in White House National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett. Director Hassett, thank you so much for joining us. I was just speaking with Rick Reeder of Blackrock, who you knew well, who at one point was interviewing for the same job you were over at the fed. He basically described the jobs picture as stable, but I would say broadly unimpressive. Would you agree? Unimpressive but stable?
Kevin Hassett 0:35 ↗
No, I would say that it's on an upward trajectory. Three of the last four months surprised on the upside. As you know, there were a little bit of downward revisions. This one came in a little below expectations. But if you lift up the hood, the basic story that we think is animating the economy right now is that there's a construction boom. It's the biggest construction boom we've ever had, in part because in the big beautiful bill, we allowed people to expense factory construction. The president talks about all this all the time, about all the commitments to onshore U.S. activity, and that's showing up in construction employment, which was up a lot this month. But the factories had to be turned on before the jobs go back up into the 200,000 range. And so I actually have been a little surprised on the upside by the job market, because it's been north of 100 quite a bit. And because we don't have a massive inflow of illegal immigration, that makes the break-even job number a little bit lower. So I think this is a really strong, healthy job market and that this was a little bit on the other side of expectations. But the trend over 3 or 4 months is consistent with our view that we were growing about 3% and that we're going to have a better second half of the year.
Interviewer 1:47 ↗
And Kevin, factories turn on the lights. You've been consistent on that, but you've also been consistent on this. You were saying this just a month ago. The fed is behind the curve. Plenty of room to cut. What you're describing does not sound like an economy that needs a cut. Mhm.
Kevin Hassett 2:02 ↗
Well I think that again what one has to do, and right now we've got Kevin Warsh there. It's different leadership and we very much respect the independence of the fed. I think to Kevin, watch the data and do what he thinks is right, and we'll support him in that. I think that as an abstract principle, going back a month ago on the show or anywhere else I've been speaking, I've been highlighting the fact that the old fashioned Phillips curve that says if you have growth, you have to raise rates, doesn't apply in situations where there are big positive supply shocks. And so if there's a big positive supply shock, like you have an economy with an apple tree, you plant another apple tree. Now you got a lot more apples. The price of apples goes down. And with AI basically increasing productivity of firms all across the country, that's increasing their output. We're seeing it in real GDP numbers, but not putting upward pressure on prices. Now, on the other hand, if you mailed checks to people, as Joe Biden did, then all of a sudden they open up their mailbox and get a few thousand dollars, so they go out and spend it, but the supply doesn't go up with it. That's where you get the inflation.
Interviewer 3:03 ↗
That would be fair. I mean, the president also, I remember getting a cheque signed by President Trump as well. And we also had the one big beautiful bill. So both parties doing that. But, Director Hassett, well taken on your point of fed independence. I wonder why then you made these comments on Fox yesterday. You basically said that there are majority of members over at the fed who are voting not because they're patriotic, but rather because they want to get Trump. Director Hassett, that sounds like trying to sway the fed or challenging their independence by you, in such a big part of this administration with such a senior role, making a comment like that.
Kevin Hassett 3:41 ↗
Look, look, we've said over and over that we think that the previous version of the fed had made a bunch of moves that look to us to be partisan. And a lot of the people who decided to cut rates right ahead of the last election to raise rates the minute that Donald Trump was inaugurated, a lot of those people hang on. I kind of push back because like by 175 basis points from late 2024 through 2025, that doesn't seem like something that's moving against Trump. That's giving the White House effectively what it wants. They're moving towards normalcy. And I hope that they continue under the firm and solid leadership of Kevin Warsh. I hope that they now move into a direction where they're data dependent. I think that if you look back at their history going all the way back to when President Trump was inaugurated, they weren't always data dependent. And I'm hoping that they achieve that status. That's what I was saying yesterday.
Interviewer 4:32 ↗
Are there certain members of this Federal Reserve that you are in particular concerned about? Director Hassett?
Kevin Hassett 4:39 ↗
I think it's extremely unorthodox that Jay Powell has dropped out. The former chair sitting there is very unorthodox, I guess the first time in history, and I'm concerned about what his motivations for that are. Yes, of course. So in the end this is a problem that Kevin is just going to work out. He's now the chairman of the fed. And we have enormous confidence.
Interviewer 4:59 ↗
I was going to say, Director Hassett, just on that point, do you think that the White House needs to get more involved? Do you think that there should be further investigations around Jay Powell? Should there be methods, much like with Lisa Cook, just to see if changes can be made to this FOMC to again, in your words, remove people who you have concerns are moving more along politics than data?
Kevin Hassett 5:23 ↗
I think the fed needs to do its job. And they've got great leadership there. And we're going to hope for the best.

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