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Secretary General of NATO, NATO

Ankara Summit 2026 Live | NATO Chief Mark Rutte Holds Press Conference | Istanbul Protest

📅 Jul 06, 2026 ALERT News 261 MIN 407 SEGMENTS · 11 SPEAKERS
ANKARA - NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte holds press conference a day ahead of the summit in Ankara Mark Rutte, NATO, ...

What Mark Rutte said

Written from the verified transcript and checked against it. Every figure links to the moment it was said.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte opened the Ankara summit by outlining the agenda: delivering on defense investment commitments from The Hague, turning cash into capabilities, and supporting Ukraine. He said European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of GDP in defense, with $258 billion in extra investment for 2025-2026, and are on track to equalize spending with the US. He credited President Trump's leadership for this shift. On Ukraine, he said Russia's recent attacks show desperation, and that Ukraine is doing well on the battlefield, with the front line at a stalemate. He dismissed concerns about Russian harassment of a NATO warship, praising the UK response. He said China's missile test shows NATO cannot be naive, and that the IP4 cooperation is strong. He defended Ankara as a summit host, emphasizing democracy includes free media. He highlighted Turkey's importance, with 3,000 defense companies, and announced tens of billions in new contracts to be unveiled at the defense industry forum.

Key takeaways

  1. European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of GDP in defense, one year into a 10-year project to reach 5% by 2035.
  2. European allies and Canada will spend $258 billion extra on defense in 2025 and 2026 combined.
  3. NATO will announce tens of billions in new defense contracts at the summit's industry forum tomorrow.
  4. Rutte said Putin is accepting up to 35,000 Russian military deaths, and the front line in Ukraine is now a stalemate.
  5. Rutte said the US and Europe have a clear division of labor, with Europeans taking over war-fighting commands and providing the mass of forward land forces.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
5% GDP defense investment target by 2035 commitment 13:39
4% Current defense investment as share of GDP by European allies and Canada metric 13:39
$258 billion Extra defense investment by European allies and Canada in 2025-2026 guidance 13:39
20% Increase in core defense spending by European allies and Canada last year metric 13:39
35,000 Russian military deaths Putin is willing to accept metric 3:55
5,000 Sorties from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian metric 2:03
3,000 Turkish defense industry companies metric 12:36
2035 Deadline for 5% GDP defense investment timeline 13:39
2025 and 2026 Years for $258 billion extra defense spending timeline 13:39

Chapters

  1. 0:00Summit agenda and defense investment
  2. 2:03Trump visit and defense spending
  3. 3:55Ukraine war and Russian attacks
  4. 6:25Russian harassment of NATO warship
  5. 7:28China missile test and IP4
  6. 9:06European leadership in NATO
  7. 11:44Democracy and media freedom
  8. 12:36Turkey's importance to NATO
  9. 13:39Defense industry forum and contracts

Questions asked in this interview

10
  1. 1:17And how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength, the message that you just say is core?
  2. 3:24And what will they say in response?
  3. 5:31Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
  4. 7:03And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row, you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
  5. 8:32How do you simplify the political decision-making that is really difficult to do?
  6. 11:12Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
  7. 12:22Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
  8. 19:42What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength?
  9. 1:01:43How do you simplify the political decision making that is really difficult to do?
  10. 1:05:29And then the woman here, Janet Milad, where are you?
Mark Rutte 0:00 ↗
Agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in The Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment. Over the next two days, the 32 allies along partners from Ukraine, the European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 1:07 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 1:17 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much for good afternoon and thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Operation Prosperity Guardian, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have? And how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength, the message that you just say is core?
Mark Rutte 2:03 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. You could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed the almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 3:14 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Vun 3:24 ↗
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi. Good to see you. My name is Vun. I'm from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 3:55 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, the Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who have to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 5:18 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 5:31 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 6:25 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. And that's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do. And this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 6:53 ↗
All right. And then just behind her in the sixth row.
Burke 7:03 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General. Burke from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row, you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 7:28 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China and you know this. And this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 8:21 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row. AP.
Ron Cook 8:32 ↗
Ron Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision-making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 9:06 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine, defense industry output like interceptors, but paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts when you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the $250 billion extra spend in '25 and '26, can you imagine $250 billion by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output, but still of course there is a limit to what they can do in pumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 10:52 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 11:12 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 11:44 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 12:18 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here.
Janet Milad 12:22 ↗
Janet Milad. Where are you? Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 12:36 ↗
Very important. Of course you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last five to 10 years, you have rapidly developed your defense industrial base. You have now about 3,000 companies every day turning out the kit, the defense industrial output, our men and women in uniform need to defend ourselves. So for all these reasons, Ankara, Istanbul, Turkey as a whole is really important and your place on the map is important. Your leadership in NATO is important and the fact that you organized this summit now, this NATO summit here in Ankara is evidence of that.
Moderator 13:36 ↗
Okay, we're going to come back to this side of the room. We're going to start.
Mark Rutte 13:39 ↗
Has America's top Arab ally turned up the heat on Netanyahu as fresh tensions grip the Gulf region? Is Egypt drawing a firm red line for Israel while blaming Netanyahu for fueling the wider Gulf crisis? Has President el-Sisi publicly distanced Egypt from Israel? Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive. Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investment. And the trend continues. We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO. The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center, overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend. And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic. So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own. So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in The Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment. Over the next two days, the 32 allies along partners from Ukraine, European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 19:32 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here. Fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 19:42 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much for good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Operation Prosperity Guardian, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just say is core.
Mark Rutte 20:29 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 21:40 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Vun 21:49 ↗
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi. Good to see you. My name is Vun. From Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 22:20 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look, and of course this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform are getting killed on the battlefield which is terrible news for the families. But of course from a military point of perspective important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who have to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 23:43 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 23:56 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 24:49 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. And that's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to this ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do, and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 25:19 ↗
All right. And then just behind her in the sixth row.
Burke 25:28 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row, you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 25:53 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China and you know this. And this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 26:46 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row. AP.
Ron Cook 26:58 ↗
Ron Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision-making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 27:31 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine, the defense industry, output like interceptors but paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts when you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the $250 billion extra spend in '25 and '26, can you imagine $250 billion by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output, but still of course there is a limit to what they can do in pumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 29:17 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 29:37 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 30:09 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 30:43 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here.
Janet Milad 30:47 ↗
Janet Milad. Where are you? Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 31:01 ↗
Very important. Of course you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last five to 10 years, you have rapidly developed your defense industrial base. You have now about 3,000 companies every day turning out the kit, the defense industrial output, our men and women in uniform need to defend ourselves. So for all these reasons, Ankara, Istanbul, Turkey as a whole is really important and your place on the map is important. Your leadership in NATO is important and the fact that you organized this summit now, this NATO summit here in Ankara is evidence of that.
Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive. Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investments. And the trend continues. We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO. The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center, overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend. And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic. So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own. So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in The Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment. Over the next two days, the 32 allies along partners from Ukraine, European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 36:55 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 37:05 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much for good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Operation Prosperity Guardian, United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just say is core.
Mark Rutte 37:52 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 39:02 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
De Brun 39:12 ↗
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi, good to see you. My name is De Brun. From Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 39:43 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look, and of course this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform are getting killed on the battlefield which is terrible news for the families. But of course from a military point of perspective important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who have to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 41:06 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 41:19 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 42:12 ↗
To the contrary, and your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to this ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do, and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 42:42 ↗
All right. And then just behind her, the sixth row.
Burke 42:51 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row, you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 43:16 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China and you know this. And this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 44:09 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row. AP.
Lon Cook 44:20 ↗
Lon Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision-making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 44:54 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine, defense industry output like interceptors, but paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts when you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the $250 billion extra spend in '25 and '26, can you imagine $250 billion by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output, but still of course there is a limit to what they can do in bumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 46:40 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 47:00 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 47:32 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 48:06 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here.
Janet Milad 48:10 ↗
Janet Milad. Where are you? Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 48:24 ↗
Very important. Of course you are there almost since the beginning since 1952 so a couple of years after the start Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last five to 10 years, you have rapidly developed your defense industrial base. You have now about 3,000 companies every day turning out the kit, the defense industrial output, our men and women in uniform need to defend ourselves. So for all these reasons, Ankara, Istanbul, Turkey as a whole is really important and your place on the map is important. Your leadership in NATO is important and the fact that you organized this summit now, this NATO summit here in Ankara is evidence of that.
Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive. Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investment. And the trend continues. We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO. The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center, overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend. And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic. So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine.
to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own.
So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in the Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment.
Over the next two days, the 32 allies along with partners from Ukraine, European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 54:18 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 54:28 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much. Good afternoon and thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Epic Fury, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have? And how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just said is core.
Mark Rutte 55:14 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine, but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening, and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example, when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Epic Fury. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 56:25 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Vun 56:34 ↗
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi. Good to see you. My name is Vun from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 57:06 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform, are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who had to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 58:29 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 58:42 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 59:35 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do, and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 1:00:04 ↗
All right. And then just behind her in the sixth row.
Burke 1:00:14 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General. Burke from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 1:00:39 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China. You know this and this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 1:01:32 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row, AP.
Lon Cook 1:01:43 ↗
Lon Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 1:02:17 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine. The defense industry output like interceptors were paid for by Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts. When you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces, when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the 250 billion extra spent in 25 and 26, can you imagine 250 billion dollars by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output. But still of course there is a limit to what they can do in bumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 1:04:03 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 1:04:22 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 1:04:55 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 1:05:29 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here, Janet Milad, where are you?
Janet Milad 1:05:38 ↗
Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 1:05:46 ↗
Very important. Of course, you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last 5 to 10 years.
Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive.
Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investments. And the trend continues.
We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO.
The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center. Overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend.
And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic.
So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own.
So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in the Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment.
Over the next two days, the 32 allies along with partners from Ukraine, the European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 1:11:40 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 1:11:50 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Epic Fury, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just said is core.
Mark Rutte 1:12:38 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine, but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening, and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example, when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Epic Fury. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 1:13:48 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi, good to see you. My name is Vun from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 1:14:29 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform, are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who had to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 1:15:52 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 1:16:05 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 1:16:58 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 1:17:27 ↗
All right. And then just behind her in the sixth row.
Burke 1:17:37 ↗
Thank you. Secretary General. Burke from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row, you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 1:18:02 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China. You know this and this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 1:18:55 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row, AP.
Lon Cook 1:19:06 ↗
Lon Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 1:19:40 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question. That's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine. Defense industry output like interceptors were paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts. When you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces, when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the 250 billion extra spent in 25 and 26, can you imagine 250 billion by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output. But still of course there is a limit to what they can do in bumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 1:21:25 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row, and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 1:21:45 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 1:22:18 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 1:22:51 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here, Janet Milad, where are you?
Janet Milad 1:23:01 ↗
Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 1:23:09 ↗
Very important. Of course, you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So, a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last 5 to 10 years.
Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive.
Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investment. And the trend continues.
We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO.
The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center. Overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend.
And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic.
So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own.
So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in the Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry. And we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment.
Over the next two days, the 32 allies along with partners from Ukraine, the European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 1:29:03 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 1:29:13 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much. Good afternoon and thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Epic Fury, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just said is core.
Mark Rutte 1:30:00 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine, but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening, and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example, when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Epic Fury. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 1:31:11 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi. Good to see you. My name is Vun from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 1:31:52 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform, are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who had to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 1:33:15 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 1:33:28 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 1:34:21 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do, and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 1:34:50 ↗
All right. And then just behind her, the sixth row.
Burke 1:34:59 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General. Burke from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 1:35:25 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4 including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China. You know this and this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 1:36:18 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row. AP.
Lon Cook 1:36:29 ↗
Lon Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 1:37:03 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine, the defense industry output like interceptors were paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts. When you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces, when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is Europeans and Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the 250 billion extra spent in 25 and 26, can you imagine $250 billion by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output. But still of course there is a limit to what they can do in bumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course, if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 1:38:48 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row, and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 1:39:08 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 1:39:40 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room, that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 1:40:14 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here, Janet Milad, where are you?
Janet Milad 1:40:23 ↗
Here. Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 1:40:32 ↗
Very important. Of course, you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained and particularly the last 5 to 10 years.
Committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035. And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive.
Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments. Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investments. And the trend continues.
We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities. European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine. All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO.
The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors. This means ensuring innovation is front and center. Overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape. The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend.
And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security. This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic.
So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense.
especially when it comes to air defense. Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night. So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own.
So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in The Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry, and we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment.
Over the next two days, the 32 allies along with partners from Ukraine, the European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver. Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 1:46:26 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 1:46:36 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much for good afternoon and thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Operation Prosperity Guardian, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just say is core.
Mark Rutte 1:47:23 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example, when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 1:48:34 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi, good to see you. My name is Vun from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 1:49:15 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform, are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who had to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 1:50:38 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 1:50:51 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 1:51:43 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course, that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do. And this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.
Moderator 1:52:13 ↗
All right. And then just behind her in the sixth row.
Burke 1:52:22 ↗
Thank you, Secretary General. Latika Burke from the Nightly Australian. Nice to see you again. Good to see you again. Overnight, China has confirmed that it has tested a missile in the South Pacific. The IP4 plan to raise this here at NATO. How will you discuss this? And given the seriousness of this, is it a concern to you that for the second year in a row you are struggling to get IP4 leaders attend this summit?
Mark Rutte 1:52:47 ↗
On the second part of your question, no, because we have a very close cooperation with the IP4, including with Anthony, your prime minister, and the prime ministers and presidents of New Zealand, the Republic of Korea, and Japan. I was just texting this afternoon with the Japanese defense minister about this latest development and I think it is evidence of the fact that we cannot be naive about China. You know this and this is why we have this close cooperation because these theaters are getting more and more intertwined, connected. What happens in the Pacific is relevant to what is happening in the transatlantic and we see it also in the war with Ukraine where China, North Korea, and Iran are key enablers of Russia's unprovoked war of aggression against Ukraine. So this again is evidence that we cannot be naive and I can assure you that we are honored.
Moderator 1:53:41 ↗
Okay, coming over here fourth row, AP.
Lon Cook 1:53:52 ↗
Lon Cook from the Associated Press. You mentioned in your opening remarks clear, credible, concise plans that the allies have to come up with. What if they don't is the obvious question. The US envoy has spoken of something in store if that's not the case. And then more generally, if we look at this stronger Europe in NATO, how does NATO actually accommodate that? How do you give them more planning responsibilities, more command? How do you simplify the political decision making that is really difficult to do?
Mark Rutte 1:54:26 ↗
I don't think so. And that's to your second part of your question, that's already happening. You see Europeans taking over commands in NATO when it comes to the real war fighting and the Americans will then make sure that when it comes to land, air, and sea commands, they will take care of those. So there is already a clear distinction of labor where the Europeans are stepping up. We see the same when it comes to Ukraine. The US still providing crucial kit into Ukraine, defense industry output like interceptors were paid for by the Europeans and Canada. And we see it on so many other fronts. When you look at the mass of people in the forward land forces, when it comes to Baltic Sentry, Eastern Sentry, Arctic Sentry, it is the Europeans and the Canadians providing the mass of the men and women in uniform there. So that's Europe and Canada stepping up. So that's already happening and the present structures accommodate for that. And when it comes to your first part of your question, the good news is with the 250 billion extra spend in 25 and 26, can you imagine 250 billion dollars by the Canadians and the Europeans, that means that we have reached the max in terms of absorption capacity. Why? Because there is a limit to what you can spend extra in one or two years in terms of recruiting the men and women in uniform, making sure that the defense industrial base which is rapidly developing and turning out more output. But still of course there is a limit to what they can do in pumping up the output in one or two years. So I think we are in really good shape and massively the Europeans are stepping up. Look at countries like Germany and so many others. And of course if one or two still have to be convinced, we have ways to do that.
Moderator 1:56:11 ↗
All right, we're going to come here in the third row and I'll ask the mic to first come to the man in the black t-shirt and then the woman next to him. So, if you could just wait there. Thank you.
Dutch Journalist 1:56:31 ↗
Yeah, I don't think I have to introduce myself, but I will do it anyway. Dutch agency. Thanks sir. You extensively praised the host nation but we've seen in the past few days, weeks, a crackdown again on dissidents, on even journalists and comedians. Is Ankara still the best place to have a summit of liberal democracies and do you think it's a good occasion for leaders to address these issues with President Erdogan?
Mark Rutte 1:57:03 ↗
Let me say this when it comes to democracy, democracy is more than elections. Elections of course are crucial in democracy but democracy is also the free media. You in this room that you can ask all the questions you want and write the pieces you want and do your research etc. And of course democracy is also for people to be able to organize demonstrations if they so choose. So it's much more than only free elections. And when it comes to the media, it is very important for NATO that media can attend major events in person.
Moderator 1:57:37 ↗
Okay. And then the woman here, Janet Milad, where are you?
Janet Milad 1:57:47 ↗
Yes. Hi. Sorry. Janet Milad. Secretary General, how important is Turkey to NATO's future security strategy?
Mark Rutte 1:57:55 ↗
Very important. Of course, you were there almost since the beginning since 1952. So, a couple of years after the start, Turkey joined NATO. You have one of the biggest armed forces in NATO, well trained, and particularly the last five to 10 years, Turkey has committed to invest 5% of GDP in defense by 2035.
And now just one year later, we already see transformational progress. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear, concrete, and credible plans to reach that 5% goal. And the evidence we see so far is impressive.
Just one year into a 10-year project, we see that European allies and Canada are already investing around 4% of their GDP in defense and security. This includes major increases to allies' investments in core defense as well as their defense and security related investments.
Last year, European allies and Canada spent nearly 20% more on core defense than they had the year before. Looking at 2025 and 2026 combined, that's $258 billion in extra investments. And the trend continues.
We will need more forces, more resources, and a much stronger industrial base. After years of underinvestment, we are producing real capabilities.
European allies and Canada are now on a trajectory to equalize the defense spending with the United States. And not just that, they are taking on more leadership within NATO's command and control structure, stepping up on conventional defense, on efforts to bolster our deterrence and defense, including along the entire eastern flank in the Baltic region and the Arctic, and spearheading support to Ukraine.
All of this is evidence of a real shift in mindset, a stronger Europe and a stronger NATO.
The investment is there and now we need to ensure that we are translating our economic might into military capabilities, putting the cash to work from defense plans to drones, from money to missiles and interceptors.
This means ensuring innovation is front and center, overcoming fragmented national defense industries and cutting red tape.
The NATO summit defense industry forum which we'll host tomorrow will be the platform where we showcase how we are working with industry to deliver the capabilities that credible deterrence and defense demand. We will announce tens of billions in new contracts that will provide the crucial kit we need to deter and defend.
And then our industries from Arkansas to Ankara combine their strengths and step up supply. The result is not only improved security.
This will help grow our economies, spread innovation, and support hundreds of thousands of jobs on both sides of the Atlantic.
So, we are investing in our own security, ensuring we have what we need to safeguard our societies today and tomorrow, because the threats we face are real, including from Russia, which continues to wage war on Ukraine.
Right now, Ukraine is changing the dynamics on the battlefield thanks to the bravery, the dedication and ingenuity of their armed forces, but they need our continued support, especially when it comes to air defense.
Russia continues drone and missile attacks on Ukrainian cities with another horrific attack just last night.
So, as Ukraine continues to defend its sovereignty, allies and NATO partners must continue to ensure Ukraine gets what it needs. And let me be clear, all allies need to pull their weight so that our support to Ukraine continues to flow because Ukraine security is so closely linked with our own.
So that's the overview of our agenda for the summit here in Ankara. We are delivering on the commitments made in The Hague to invest in our defense. We will ensure that we are rebalancing for the better, fairly sharing the responsibility for our shared security. We will turn cash into capabilities, joining forces with industry, and we will continue our robust support for Ukraine, reminding President Putin that we are firm in our commitment.
Over the next two days, the 32 allies along with partners from Ukraine, European Union, the Indo-Pacific, and the Gulf will gather to ensure that NATO continues to deliver.
Together we represent nearly two-thirds of the world's economy and we are coming together because we know that cooperation is key. We are stronger together in NATO with partners to ensure the freedom and security we all hold dear. Thank you.
Moderator 2:03:49 ↗
All right. And now we'll head to questions. We'll start over here fifth row towards the end.
Nick Robertson 2:03:59 ↗
Thank you very much, Secretary General. Nick Robertson from CNN. Thank you very much for good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. Sir, since the Hague summit, President Trump has very heavily hinted that he'd like to annex Greenland, has very heavily chastised NATO allies for not being on the front line enough in Afghanistan and Iraq, has been upset that NATO allies have not stepped up and provided the support that he was hoping for around Operation Prosperity Guardian, the United States and Iran war. What sort of tone is this summit going to have and how hard is it in the light of that to project this consistent tone of unity and strength? The message that you just say is core.
Mark Rutte 2:04:46 ↗
Well, let me say that I had a good visit last week with President Trump and we discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and Canadians. And of course this is because of Putin and Russia and Ukraine but also because he, President Trump, has been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. And you could argue that he is the first president of the US since Eisenhower who was able to come to this situation where the Europeans and the Canadians will spend the same as the Americans. This equalization was a wish for 50, 60 years and now it's happening and I think in large part to his leadership. And we also discussed some of the disappointment he has, for example, when it comes to the Strait of Hormuz or Iran more generally. And we also discussed almost 5,000 sorties of planes taking off from European bases in support of Operation Prosperity Guardian. And only last Friday we have seen the French and the Brits coming together with the Omani to make sure that collectively they will defend the principle of the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, which is an extremely important development only in the last 72 hours.
Moderator 2:05:57 ↗
Okay, staying over here seventh row, the man in the t-shirt.
Mr. Secretary General, where are you? I need to see you. Yes. Hi, good to see you. My name is Vun from Kiev, Ukraine, ICTV. Obviously this summit is happening just across the Black Sea from Putin's war against Ukraine and we have seen clearly what happened last night was obviously a clear message to NATO. Have the leaders discussed that message? Have they heard it? And what will they say in response?
Mark Rutte 2:06:37 ↗
Well, I think what the message last night again was of how desperate Putin is because you guys, Ukrainians, are doing well on the battlefield. When you look at, of course, this is terrible news for all the Russian families involved. Putin is willing to accept that up to 35,000 of his own, primarily men in uniform, are getting killed on the battlefield, which is terrible news for the families. But of course, from a military point of perspective, important for Ukraine. You are successful there. You are hitting the Russian economy. You are hitting deep into Russia when it comes to energy infrastructure, when it comes to crucial defense industrial capacity of Russia. And you are able on the front line to prevent the Russians from making big advances like a couple of months ago where at least they made some progress on the front line. They are not doing that anymore. It is now more or less of a stalemate. So what happened last night is an indiscriminate attack on innocent civilians, on infrastructure, cities in Ukraine, people getting killed. But this is not the way Russia can ever win this war. Of course it is terrible for the people involved and my thoughts and prayers are with them and the people in Kiev and other cities who had to go through this. But fact is that you guys are doing so much better over the last couple of months than only three or four months ago.
Moderator 2:08:00 ↗
Okay, let's come to this side of the room. The fifth row, woman in the brown t-shirt.
Deborah Haynes 2:08:13 ↗
Thank you. Hi. Hi, Deborah Haynes from Sky News. The UK Ministry of Defense today has revealed that a Russian spy plane has been sort of flying over the aircraft carrier that's the NATO flagship at the moment in the high north, dropping large numbers of these sonar devices that it's believed was more to harass the warship. What's your response to this act by Russia? And do you think that the fact that Russia feels confident enough to harass a NATO warship on the eve, just ahead a few days before the NATO summit, we've had these drone sightings across sites across Europe, lots of other sort of sub-threshold activities. Are you worried that it means that NATO is failing to deter Russia under the threshold of conventional war despite all of this strong language about increasing defenses?
Mark Rutte 2:09:06 ↗
To the contrary. And your country, the United Kingdom, did exactly what needed to be done. And let me commend the British military for the actions they took. That's part one of my reaction to your question. Part two is that it also shows the unprofessionalism of the Russians willing to do this so close to the ship. Of course, that's reckless. It's unprofessional. And again, the UK armed forces did exactly what they needed to do, and this is evidence that we will defend ourselves.

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  author       = {Mark Rutte},
  title        = {Ankara Summit 2026 Live | NATO Chief Mark Rutte Holds Press Conference | Istanbul Protest},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, ALERT News. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jul},
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