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Rafał Brzoska
Founder & CEO, InPost

#14 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Ola Kobyłecka

📅 Jul 10, 2026 Rafał Brzoska Foundation 8 MIN 219 VIEWS 29 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Jak wyglądają studia medyczne w Paryżu? Czy język obcy utrudniał podczas sesji egzaminacyjnej? czy był ograniczeniem w pierwszym kontakcie z pacjentem? Czym się różnią uniwersytety we Francji od tych w Polsce? Co zaskakuje ją najbardziej na studiach? W najnowszym odcinku Fireside Chat Rafał Brzoska rozmawia z Olą Kobyłecką – Stypendystką Rafał Brzoska Foundation, która opowiada o swojej drodze do medycyny, badaniach nad onkologią, studiach w Paryżu oraz planach powrotu do Polski. To rozmowa o ambicji, odwadze w podejmowaniu wyzwań i przekonaniu, że zdobywanie doświadczeń za granicą mo...

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Rafał Brzoska, founder and CEO of InPost, hosted a short podcast with Ola Kobółecka, a Polish medical student in Paris and a Rafał Brzoska Foundation scholar. Brzoska asked about her choice to study in France, her academic challenges, and her inspirations. Kobółecka explained that 80% of first-year French medical students fail the competitive selection, and that communicating with patients in French was harder than exams. She noted the emphasis on the history and philosophy of medicine, and that she conducted glioblastoma research in the U.S. during a gap year. She named Marie Curie and her sister Bronisława Dłuska as role models. Brzoska asked about her specialty interest; she said oncology, having spent time at the Curie Institute. She plans to return to Poland as a physician-scientist. Brzoska answered her question about family, saying home should be a place of support, not competition, and that it gives him energy for business.

Key takeaways

  1. Brzoska said home should be a place of support, not competition, and that partners should give each other wings, not clip them.
  2. Kobółecka said 80% of first-year French medical students fail the competitive selection process.
  3. Kobółecka plans to return to Poland in about fifteen years to work as a physician and scientist, possibly teaching at a Polish university.
  4. Kobółecka is considering oncology and spent time at the Curie Institute's oncology department.
  5. Brzoska said that when you see others as people to support rather than competitors, positive energy comes back to you.

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80% first-year French medical students who fail metric 0:53

Chapters

  1. 0:00Introduction of Ola Kobółecka
  2. 0:45Why study medicine in Paris
  3. 0:53Challenges of French medical education
  4. 1:50Humanistic side of medicine
  5. 2:37Gap year and U.S. research
  6. 3:39Role models: Marie Curie and sister
  7. 4:14Study balance and student life
  8. 4:51Interest in oncology
  9. 5:23Future plans in Poland
  10. 6:00Family's role in success

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 6:00I'd like to ask, what role does family play in your definition of success and fulfillment?
Rafał Brzoska 0:02 ↗
Rafał Brzoska Foundation. Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of our short podcast series with Rafał Brzoska Foundation scholars. Today I'm joined by Ola Kobółecka. Hi, Ola. Hi. Good morning. Tell us a few words about yourself.
Ola Kobółecka 0:22 ↗
My name is Ola. I'm originally from Łódź, but I moved away quite early. I attended high school in Warsaw, and now I'm studying medicine in Paris. I chose medicine because I really enjoy learning. It's a long course of study, and I wanted to pursue an academic career, but I also always wanted to work with people. However, I think I only truly realized that I wanted to become a doctor after I started medical school and went to a hospital for the first time.
Rafał Brzoska 0:45 ↗
Studying medicine in French—you really set the bar high. Couldn't you have studied in Poland, in Polish? Why Paris?
Ola Kobółecka 0:53 ↗
I wanted to challenge myself, and I told myself that it would also allow me to become fluent in French. Before moving, I thought the exams would be the biggest challenge, especially because in France as many as 80% of first-year students don't make it through. There's a highly competitive selection process. But it turned out that the biggest challenge was actually communicating with patients. I have to understand them, understand their problem, and then explain what their treatment will look like. Medical terminology, and even everyday French, is quite different from the French I learned in school in Poland. So that has definitely been a challenge.
Rafał Brzoska 1:39 ↗
What's been the most interesting subject? Medicine in French... Our daughter is studying medicine in Poland, so I know what surprised her the most. What has surprised you the most?
Ola Kobółecka 1:50 ↗
When it comes to the studies themselves, I think what surprised me most was how much emphasis is placed on the humanistic side of medicine. During my first semester, the most important course was the history and philosophy of medicine. It actually carried the highest weight, was the most demanding course, required the most studying, but also gave us the most to think about because there was a great deal of philosophy involved. We learned, for example, how the Second World War influenced the development of bioethics legislation and helped put an end to unethical drug testing on people.
Rafał Brzoska 2:25 ↗
So, for anyone considering studying medicine and wondering whether it's the right path or which medical school to choose—did you have similar thoughts? Were you asking yourself the same questions?
Ola Kobółecka 2:37 ↗
Yes, absolutely. Before starting university, I took a gap year. During the first half of it, I studied German, which had nothing to do with what I'm doing now. During the second half, I went to the United States for an internship, where I conducted research on glioblastoma and cancer biology. That was also when I got a much more practical insight into what a doctor's work actually looks like, because in the United States the medical education system is a bit different. You first complete pre-med studies and only then go to medical school.
Rafał Brzoska 3:11 ↗
And you knew you wanted to become a doctor sooner rather than later, right?
Ola Kobółecka 3:14 ↗
It's hard to say it was about speeding things up, because in France medical school lasts seven years, while in the U.S. it's eight. So it's not a huge difference, but I also wanted to stay in Europe. I really love Europe, and I see my future here, closer to Poland.
Rafał Brzoska 3:27 ↗
Great. Tell me, who is someone you look up to? Someone who serves as a role model, a source of inspiration, or a guiding figure?
Ola Kobółecka 3:39 ↗
Ever since I was little, it has been Marie Curie. I know many people mention her, but I recently learned that Marie Curie's sister, Bronisława Dłuska, was also a physician, and she graduated from the very same university where I'm studying today. It was thanks to Bronisława, who moved to France first and started earning a living there, that Marie was later able to join her. So she brought her younger sister over. Exactly. Marie was the younger sister, and Bronisława, the older one, studied in the very same buildings where I study today.
Rafał Brzoska 4:14 ↗
Do you spend a lot of time studying?
Ola Kobółecka 4:17 ↗
I'd like to say... It's difficult to answer because it's really all about finding the right balance. I graduated from a Polish high school that offered the International Baccalaureate programme. That was by far the biggest academic challenge I've faced so far. IB was actually more demanding than university.

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Brzoska, R. (2026, July 10). #14 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Ola Kobyłecka [Interview transcript]. Rafał Brzoska Foundation. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1146875/

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Rafał Brzoska. "#14 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Ola Kobyłecka." Rafał Brzoska Foundation, 10 Jul. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1146875/.

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@misc{brzoska2026_1146875,
  author       = {Rafał Brzoska},
  title        = {#14 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Ola Kobyłecka},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Rafał Brzoska Foundation. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jul},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1146875/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}