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Founder & CEO, InPost

#25 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Szymon Jackowski

📅 Oct 02, 2026 Rafał Brzoska Foundation 11 MIN 8 VIEWS 41 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Is studying abroad always the best choice? How is artificial intelligence changing the way we learn, build startups, and connect science with business? And how do you know when it's worth continuing to fight for your idea and when it's time to pivot? The guest of the next episode of Fireside Chat is Szymon Jackowski – a Rafał Brzoska Foundation scholarship holder from 2024 and a student of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at the University of California, Berkeley. Szymon combines science with economics, and his studies with intense social activism. He is involved in the developme...

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Rafał Brzoska, founder and CEO of InPost, hosted a fireside chat with Szymon Jackowski, a scholar of the Rafał Brzoska Foundation since 2024, who studies Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at UC Berkeley. Brzoska highlighted Jackowski's academic and extracurricular achievements. The conversation covered Jackowski's studies, the impact of AI on education, his social work with e-conwers, and trends in student startups. Brzoska advised young people to have clear goals when studying abroad. He also shared his experience with the parcel locker project, noting that despite poor early financial results, he trusted his intuition and continued investing, leading to success. He acknowledged there is no universal recipe for when to pivot or shut down a project, and that intuition plays a crucial role in business decisions.

Key takeaways

  1. Brzoska invested over 20 million euros in parcel lockers with revenue of only 2,000 zlotys per month, yet he continued due to his belief in the project.
  2. Brzoska said there is no universal recipe for when to cut or pivot a project, and that intuition is essential.
  3. Jackowski noted that AI is democratizing startups, enabling people without full technical skills to start businesses.
  4. Jackowski advised that studying abroad should be driven by a specific goal, not just because it is trendy.
  5. The foundation receives thousands of applications each year, with events hosting 500 or more participants.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
2,000 zlotys Monthly revenue from parcel lockers in early years metric 8:34
over 20 million euros Investment in first few hundred parcel lockers commitment 8:34

Chapters

  1. 0:00Introduction and guest background
  2. 1:12Studies at UC Berkeley and AI
  3. 3:09Social work and startup interest
  4. 4:33Polish Club at Berkeley
  5. 5:03Science-business relationship
  6. 6:03Hobbies and free time
  7. 6:27Advice on studying abroad
  8. 7:34Foundation support
  9. 8:08Parcel locker investment story
  10. 10:31Closing remarks
Rafał Brzoska 0:05 ↗
Good morning, everyone. Another episode of our fireside chats with scholars of the Rafał Brzoska Foundation. Today our guest is Szymon Jackowski, a scholar since 2024. That was the third edition of our recruitment. Welcome, Szymon.
Szymon Jackowski 0:21 ↗
Good morning.
Rafał Brzoska 0:21 ↗
So, as always, a quick introduction so that everyone knows who we're dealing with. Here we go: a student of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at the University of California, Berkeley, a member of the management team of a foundation, an organization dedicated to, listen to this, building an ecosystem, a very important startup ecosystem for high school students and university students, that is, the youngest generation of our future entrepreneurs. Individual and team winner of the International Economics Olympiad, vice president, and this I didn't know, it's new, of the Polish Club of Berkeley, coordinator of the International Development Team at the SGH Investors Club, the largest student research club focused on finance in Poland, and an ambassador of the Go for Poland campaign of the WSE Foundation. Have I forgotten anything, Szymon?
Szymon Jackowski 1:09 ↗
I don't think so. That covers the most important things about me.
Rafał Brzoska 1:12 ↗
OK, so tell me now, I have the impression that the list of things you're involved in has been growing since our first recruitment meeting, which makes me very happy, because it shows that personal growth comes first. First, tell me what exactly you study, or what problems you tackle at such a wonderful university, and what lies behind this Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences.
Szymon Jackowski 1:41 ↗
Well, as someone studying engineering and computer science, I focus mainly on problems related to connecting these fields with economics, because economics is my academic background, and to complement it with, let's say, the hard sciences, because nowadays a great many sciences draw on mathematics, computer science or engineering fields, so by studying these hard sciences I try to find their applications in economics.
Rafał Brzoska 2:11 ↗
So, for example, building econometric models.
Szymon Jackowski 2:14 ↗
Yes, yes, exactly. A lot of econometric models use it. Whether it's artificial... or machine learning, or in some way artificial intelligence. So it's now a very important field to understand in order to fully understand the social sciences as well.
Rafał Brzoska 2:25 ↗
But isn't it the case that such rapid development of artificial intelligence somewhat redefines what you did, or what you do in this program?
Szymon Jackowski 2:33 ↗
I would say it certainly requires universities to adapt very quickly.
Rafał Brzoska 2:40 ↗
Exactly.
Szymon Jackowski 2:40 ↗
But Berkeley is quite active in staying, every year or even every semester, very up to date with artificial intelligence, and we even have classes that already teach us how to coexist with AI, rather than just being taught the way it was 20 years ago, but precisely how to coexist with AI and how to use it, but also how not to be 100% dependent on AI and be only a person who can write a prompt and nothing more.
Rafał Brzoska 3:07 ↗
Awesome. What takes up most of your time today? Studying or your social work?
Szymon Jackowski 3:09 ↗
It's... studying is... it's social work. Yes. It's the main part of my day, every day.
Rafał Brzoska 3:17 ↗
Which, which of these social areas is number one for you today?
Szymon Jackowski 3:24 ↗
Well, my main, let's say, social involvement is developing e-converwers. It's something that accompanied me throughout high school, really. And now I'm still involved in it, and it's also...
Rafał Brzoska 3:36 ↗
How many high school and university students today are thinking about their own startup, and is it fewer or more when you compare it to, I don't know, a year ago, two years ago?
Szymon Jackowski 3:48 ↗
I would say it keeps growing, also because artificial intelligence is really democratizing startups, meaning that a person who doesn't have full technical skills is able to somehow make up for it with artificial intelligence. So it's definitely a strongly growing trend, and it will probably only keep growing as AI develops.
Rafał Brzoska 4:07 ↗
Can you give us some numbers on how it looks? I don't know, how many people apply to the foundation for support each year?
Szymon Jackowski 4:14 ↗
Yes. Well, thousands of applicants go through our foundation every year.

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Brzoska, R. (2026, October 2). #25 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Szymon Jackowski [Interview transcript]. Rafał Brzoska Foundation. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2968853/

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Rafał Brzoska. "#25 Fireside Chat, Rafał Brzoska x Szymon Jackowski." Rafał Brzoska Foundation, 2 Oct. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2968853/.

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  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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