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Executive Officer, HP Inc

HP's Personal Systems President Alex Cho Talks CES 2021 - Six Five Insiders

🎥 Jan 11, 2021 📺 SixFiveMedia
Patrick Moorhead from Moor Insights & Strategy and Daniel Newman from Futurum Research talk with HP Personal Systems President Alex Cho about CES 2021. We talk about the PC being essential and: How HP approached a "remote" CES for the first time in history The three C's Dragonfly, Envy and Elite Folio announcements HP earbuds Working from "x" for 2021 Leading global tech analysts Patrick Moorhead (Moor Insights & Strategy) and Daniel Newman (Futurum Research) are front and center on The Six Five analyzing the tech industry's biggest news each and every week and also conducting interviews wit...
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About Alexander Cho

In a January 2021 interview, HP Personal Systems President Alex Cho discussed the company's approach to the remote CES 2021 and the role of PCs during the pandemic. Cho stated that the PC "has become essential for work, learning, healthcare, and entertainment" and that HP's focus is on "helping people stay productive, learn, be secure, and stay connected." He described the future of work as hybrid, where technology enables people to choose between travel and remote work. Cho highlighted several HP product announcements, including the Elite Folio, which he said adapts to different computing modes such as keyboard, tablet, and media consumption. He also discussed the Dragonfly Max, which he described as designed for people on calls with "advanced noise reduction, AI-enabled tuning, and personalized audio." Regarding HP earbuds, Cho emphasized the importance of "fast, seamless pairing of earbuds across multiple devices" and AI-enabled features that adapt to individual hearing. He characterized HP's approach as focusing on "the people behind the innovation" rather than just the product itself.

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Transcript (29 segments)
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Daniel0:11
Joined by my always esteemed co-host entering the new 2021 year with a bang, Patrick Moorhead of Moorhead Strategies. Patrick, welcome to the 6'5" show today, and by the way, 6'5" Insiders show today that I know we're both really excited about.
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Patrick Moorhead0:28
Daniel, great to see you. I think about a year ago, and I forget if I was either heavily prepping for on-prem CES 2020 or if I was already there. I guess it's only been a year, but we are definitely doing a virtual CES 2021 this year, aren't we?
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Daniel0:51
Yeah, we're doing a lot of virtual this year. It is 2021. Holy crow, 2021 at least the first half is going to look an awful lot like 2020. And here we are, the world's largest consumer electronics show is going to be done remotely, and by the way, just about every major event I think in the first at least six months of '21 will also be done remote.
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Patrick Moorhead1:28
That's right. So without further ado, let's jump into this special Insider edition here, and we are very happy to have Alex Cho, President of Personal Systems at HP. Alex, how are you doing?
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Alexander Cho1:50
I'm doing great. I had a couple of weeks where the company slowed down for the holidays.
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Daniel2:11
You know, the appetite for people to get good content online has gone up astronomically for us. Neither Daniel nor I consider ourselves YouTubers, we are industry analysts, but hey, why keep all this great content locked up behind a paywall? We want to make sure opinions on this great tech are here. Anyway, great to have you on the show, and there's a big show coming up, CES, and whether it's in person or virtual does not stop.
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Alexander Cho3:12
Sure, I'd love to talk about what I do. Thank you. You know, the way I think about it is I am responsible for helping to design solutions that help people stay productive and keep learning and be secure and be cared for. I mean, especially during this time, I'd say that the opportunity for us from what we call personal systems spans PC devices, yes, but the rich ecosystem of peripherals and displays and services, all of that that we innovate around in order to help people.
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Daniel4:12
Podcast blitz in, I believe it was like April timeframe, yeah, when the shutdown kind of first really became a big reality in our lives, that tech was really coping, and you came on and you talked to us about what HP was doing, and then you joined us again, gave a great keynote on something called the PC is Essential, and we'll talk about that throughout the show today at our 6'5" Summit, which we're thrilled to be actually doing our second edition this year. But here we are, new year 2021, and it is a reality for big companies like HP that are traditionally extraordinary at showcasing their wares at big live events, big exhibition halls.
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Patrick Moorhead5:10
Look, this has got to be so different, 100% remote. I just got to know, I mean, I know you're probably not the event person, but you're involved in so much of the planning. What does that look like? What is planning and prepping for an event of this size and magnitude when it's gone 100% virtual look like?
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Alexander Cho5:27
Well, you're right, first is it's all different, and different doesn't necessarily mean bad, but it is different. In fact, what we're finding is there's a lot of things that you can do uniquely in virtual that you actually couldn't do physically. So it's all of that combined. For us, if anything, think about the space that we're in, we're in computing, and last year when we started to say the PC is essential, it's a fundamental need people have, but it's also the way by which these things like events are happening, it's the way by which people are learning and staying educated and going to school. So for me, what this all means is yes, it's different, there are things that we have to learn, but it's opening up new ways. As an example, you can get a lot more content, you can cover a lot more territory. I'm talking to more customers and partners than I ever did. Interesting, it's so much more efficient. So the ability to get a lot of content and exposure and conversations and to cover that territory efficiently, wow.
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Patrick Moorhead6:51
I love that, I love that the efficiency of doing that in this kind of medium. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned customers. I have a BookMe calendar and that BookMe calendar is booked from morning to night, and in some ways it's awesome, in some ways it's a little bit of a curse because I feel like I'm at a big company where I need to plan thinking time. Because we are in a luxurious position as industry analysts that we get to be able to think. But before I digress, we're going to jump into the products, but I would love for you to set the stage for overall.
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Alexander Cho8:12
So let me just build on this topic around the PC being essential. I mean, you heard that a lot from us last year, and we realized wow, this category that we're in is not only useful but it's essential for all the areas that we've talked about, for work, for learning, for healthcare. And as we entered into 2021, we realized the PC is certainly important, but what we need to focus on are the people, because it's people who are essential. You know, our biggest learning is yes, PCs are essential because people are essential, and it's so important to enable them. So for us, heading into 2021, we've spent a lot more time understanding the set of challenges. Guess what, we're also paying attention to the IT manager of today, different set of challenges and needs than the IT manager of pre-COVID. What do they need? And then as well, all of these creatives, especially youth, and their desire to want to express themselves. So we're really focusing on the people behind where all this innovation needs to serve. And maybe the second thing is it's all about experiences. You know, it's funny, I was thinking about CES, maybe we should rebrand it the Consumer Experience Show, because it's a great indication of what we think is more important than just a product, and that's the experience we're creating.
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Daniel10:11
You were so right, and by the way, the demise of the PC was largely, greatly, exponentially overstated. So if we ever saw a time, and by the way, as a sidebar, I actually think if you pull the world, while people like myself and sometimes Pat and probably you who did travel a lot maybe complained a little, we miss it, we miss humans. I think a lot of people are really kind of enjoying this. I think a lot of people, with the exception of the background of the pandemic, are actually sort of enjoying being at home more. I'll tell you one thing, Alex, just a personal note, I got more face time with my family, with my daughter going off to college, my young kids 19, 15, and 4 now, and I got a whole year with my son, a whole year with my wife like I hadn't had. And I also saw more customers than I'd ever seen in a single year, so there was a lot of good to it. But all right, it's easy to digress. I just sense your passion, Alex, and I agree. I love that you're finding a way to make the best of this. But I want to talk about the announcement. So you know, the company has a bunch of announcements, you're entering some new categories. Let's hit some highlights of the announcements of CES so we can dive a little bit more into that.
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Alexander Cho11:38
Sure. So just to add to your earlier statement, what is very interesting, I'm finding it true, is that digital is far more important. I mean, everyone knows that, but in this environment we're recognizing that digital is more important and physical is also so precious as well. So the innovation opportunities lie when you think about the announcements or when we talk about announcements that we're doing at CES. It is around looking and studying the needs of these personas that I mentioned, whether you're a hybrid worker, or you're an SMB, or you're an IT manager, or you are a youth who wants to create. In fact, everyone wants to create. We talk about the use cases: creating, consuming, collaborating. Those are the three C's of last year, and we said hey, we're seeing in our telemetry people are doing more creating, consuming, collaborating. That was pre-COVID. COVID happens, reading goes through the roof, consuming content whether it's video.
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Patrick Moorhead13:11
Can you talk a little bit more? By the way, I love the consistency, and I give credit where credit is due. It's not just analysts who are smart out there. You said the PC was essential before it was cool to talk about that. I remember you and I talked about some research that you had done, and you're like hey Pat, we're seeing some key trends in our primary research that we think are quite positive, whether it's Gen Z or whether it's folks utilizing their PCs pre-pandemic for things like video, and the generation who grew up with smartphones saying hey, they're actually using PCs. So just laying it out and sharing your research, but let's dive in if we can to the product line in the context of the PC is essential. Can you talk about the way you're improving Dragonfly, Envy, bring out Elite Folio in the context of creating, consuming, and collaborating?
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Alexander Cho14:36
Sure. So one of the key design theaters that's important for most people is the home, whether it's for work or for learning, etc. So we took our cues from studying how people are working in their home, and there's several insights that we're finding. Number one is they're not just in one place. They are announcing our flagship 800 series notebook and delivering that in a new light form factor that breaks all of the records that we've had and is really out there around lightweight so that you can move around and use and be productive while you do so. Second thing that we're announcing is...
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Patrick Moorhead15:34
Alex, which one of the products on here is this? Can you point, not point to it, but describe where it is in this lineup?
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Alexander Cho15:42
Yeah, look at the far right, the 840 EliteBook. Arrow far right. Yeah, there you go, I see your little pointer there. That's the world's lightest 14-inch mainstream notebook. It is enabled with a lot of intelligence, AI that we've built into the device based on how you work. What do you care about? You care a lot more about instant on, and so we've enabled this to enable faster on/off because you're quickly transitioning from room to room, opening it up, closing it down, etc., which is very important. The other thing that continues to be important is recognizing you're in a place where there's other sounds around you, so AI-based noise reductions so ambient sounds are excluded and people can focus on your voice when you're talking. Again, just looking at how people are working and how they are doing that throughout the day. The security needs are only being magnified, and so the best of our security suite is incorporated in this, and we take it even further. We make sure that if you by chance misplace the device, it's findable through a unique integration that we have with Tile so that you can find the device. So we're really looking at the life cycle of how a worker works in today's environment, and you see that manifested in our mainstream product which is our 840 EliteBook.
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Patrick Moorhead17:45
Nice. Can you talk a little bit about the Elite Folio?
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Alexander Cho17:49
Yeah, happy to. And then you move over to the left there, there you go. Yeah, and what are they doing? I mean, that is a pull-forward device. We introduced it first in our consumer product, and now we're introducing it in our commercial form factor, or in our commercial line. It's the Elite Folio. It has multiple modes that recognizes that you compute in many different ways. Yes, it has a keyboard mode for the productivity of having a keyboard that you can have also while you're on your lap. Secondly, it goes very quickly into tablet mode because often you are jotting things down, and we have a garage pen that automatically when you take it out will trigger your whiteboard. Because what is SMB doing a lot? They are consuming content on how you do this and how you do that, so maximizing for video consumption that's happening. And all of this is done while recognizing that this device needs to fit into a broader ecosystem of experiences, meaning what you do with your phone, so enabling you to move pictures and files from your phone quickly onto the device. So we've really looked at again the day in the life of an SMB, particularly during this time, the diversity of needs, and making sure it's not that the SMB needs to adapt to their device, this device adapts to what the SMB is doing.
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Patrick Moorhead20:12
The Folio, it was one of my favorite products. I was at your product launch in New York back when we used to do live events. I loved the leather integration of it, and I'm really looking forward to trying this out. It's fully connected, always connected, which is nice. And what I've found cool about this one is it literally you could mistake it for a folio that has a legal pad inside. But let's shift to Dragonfly. I think you really turned a lot of heads when you brought Dragonfly out. First of all, it wasn't gray, it wasn't silver, it was blue. It was super light, super thin, convertible, and I know you've graciously sampled me with a few of these, and people fight to take that one. Are you updating Dragonfly as well?
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Alexander Cho21:32
Correct, correct. In fact, we have two iterations of it that we're announcing at CES. First is to make really the beloved Dragonfly, you're right, and bringing it to even more modern capability and enabling with 5G in what we're doing with the latest Dragonfly. And in addition, what we're doing is we're introducing the Dragonfly Max. Of course, we are, people are spending all their time collaborating, they're in Teams calls, Zoom calls, and so this device is the ultimate collaboration device. We not only added features that help in collaboration, we designed for collaboration. You know, that's a very different effort. So we put the same chassis that was breaking all the records around productivity and thinness, but also a great keyboard which is still very important. And then what did we do? We improved what I've been calling the eyes, ears, and the mouth of the product, because that's how you connect. So what do I mean? First, we improved the webcam. And so I've actually realized that all of the webcams we used to put before, they were just primarily around keeping them small and thin and light, they weren't optimized for assuming you're looking at people all day long and you want to show up well. So that's first thing. The second thing that we did is recognize not only do you want to be seen well, but you want to be heard well, and so we've increased the clarity of the mic performance by adding in more mics, also ensuring there's AI-enabled noise reduction so you hear what you want to hear and you get people to pay attention to what you want them to hear and not what you don't want to hear. Another key part, the other thing is, guess what, if you're on conference calls all day, you're staring at a screen all day too, and the wear on your eyes while you're on video conferencing, that all in case we kept all the security elements including that we've built into the device, and we've introduced even a new color. So I know everyone loved Dragonfly Blue, but as well we've made it available now in Sparkling Black because of all the demands for having some more diversity of that. So we've done a lot with this product, I'm personally very excited about it. And by the way, we're also announcing with it the recognition that not only people are conferencing in areas where they can be heard, etc., and they're okay with other people hearing, but we're also announcing with it innovation to that.
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Daniel25:12
All right, you stole my thunder. How did I? Okay, since you're the guest, you can do that. That's okay. When Pat does it though, you know, we have little spars on our show like hey, you didn't leave me anything to talk about. I want to talk about the earbuds in a second here. I do want to say though, you happen to be on with two analysts that love to do video and would love to try the Dragonfly Max. So when that thing's got a few and you got a few extras lying around there, Alex, you know where to send them, right? All right, just kidding. So listen, I looked through everything that you are launching and very impressive, and thanks by the way for sharing, and I love how you tied it all back to this whole three C's. But I will say the earbuds, the map very closely knitted to I would say the mobile device, the phone. And so I'm really interested in sort of what spurred the decision to get in this space. You sort of already alluded to it, and then sort of how does HP intend to really stack up and make a go in this particular area?
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Alexander Cho26:27
Yeah, again, I want to anchor it on what we are paying attention to, is what people are doing. And they are collaborating, and we say collaborating, but if I say on Microsoft Teams, Zoom, people immediately understand, and they're doing that all day long. And in that use case, as we have spent a lot of time now studying what our pain points and what our opportunities are, we did some work on designing earbuds that met the needs of what our customers are really looking for. So what are they looking for? Seems very basic, but related to computing. First, they need to pair easily. They need to pair easily on your device, and also device means your PC, your Windows PC, but they also want to use the earbuds not only for their PC but might be for their iOS device or their Android device. And I think others in the phone space have done a nice job setting the precedent for people learning that pairing should be quick and easy and straightforward. That's number one. Second thing is we've really focused on the ability to hear and tune for conversation. Now, a lot of tuning is done for music, which is important, and so we've made sure that we keep all the learnings around making music vibrant, but as well we really focused on being able to hear speech. What are we doing? I'm not singing to you, you don't want me to sing to you, I am talking to you, and we're talking to many different types of people with different voices. And so what we've built into this is very advanced technology, in fact it's the same technology that we use in our Poly headsets, which is the gold standard for your ability to hear speech, and we think that's very important because we don't want people to be distanced and also miss what was said, whether it was subtle or out loud. And so that's a very important part of what we're trying to build into this. And then maybe finally I would just say, it's really important that this is a device that lasts throughout the day. It also has great noise reduction, noise cancellation, which is still something that's very important, and again fits into what people are doing, whether they are doing it for work, yes, also for personal relaxation and entertainment, and customizing it to each person. By the way, turns out that people don't all hear the same way. So we've built in a hearing test so that the earbuds can adapt to your hearing. It's not people adapting to the technology, it's technology adapting to them. I could not be more excited about that direction, and that's an ambition beyond CES 2021. We're going to keep doing this because we're very excited about it and we're passionate about the opportunity.
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Patrick Moorhead30:28
Yeah, so Alex, we talked years ago, I don't know if you remember, about the unmet need of really having a business-focused headphone. And while I'm sure you can play music on these, pretty much everybody's going for the same space, and I was wondering where is the space for business that's focused on talking? It's also tested very well. Phones are important, but the PC is the hub. And I love that you included a USB-C charger on it. I'm just like, that was so year 2000 type, but I know it's a little thing, but I think I'm a big believer in the little things add up to people demonstrating and having the confidence that you actually care about what you're doing. But yeah, we'll bring you back by the way for your singing, that will be a special Insider edition. But Alex, you have been very instrumental and vocal thought leadership about the new normal, how we're going to be working. You talked a little bit about this at the outset, but we'd like to close out this session talking a little bit about what do you think the new normal is going to look like?
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Alexander Cho32:11
First is, I won't be one who gives you a timeline. There's a lot of discussion on timeline. What I will say is I'm a firm believer, based on a lot of discussions, again we can do more now within this technology, that there will be a time when we are not restricted as much as we are now from traveling. But that does not mean that we will not take advantage of technology and all the innovations that we're doing now so that you don't have to travel. And I think that's a very important part in recognizing what the new normal is. Again, in my mind, in the future it will be a hybrid workplace. You won't be traveling as much for a one-hour meeting because you could do it digitally, but by the way, you could still travel, and you don't necessarily have everyone needing to go there because some people can dial in, and you won't feel left out if you're the one person who wasn't dialed in or there in person because we have technology that is very inclusive. You know, our ambition is that distance shouldn't be a barrier. Today obviously it is in many different ways, but we think that we can reduce the tax on distance by all this technology. I think people will be traveling more because they can, but they're going to choose to not all the time. In fact, if you want a breather, you're going to be scheduling a lot of virtual calls so that you can connect. The other thing that I think is a captain is the ability to tap into the resources of people out there who may not have been formally available but now can be available to teach, mentor, instruct, share. And we're creating the backbone by which all of this knowledge and sharing and wisdom and experience can be tapped into. That's not going to slow down. This is not cyclical. To use our language, the opportunity here around enabling hybrid remote productivity and learning and contribution, that is a great secular trend that we could not be more excited about.
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Daniel34:52
You said the word I was about to say, Alex. Hybrid. I think in the end, everything is going to be hybrid. We want to continue to connect in physical spaces, but there are also going to be a whole lot of things that we learned, maybe on purpose, maybe on accident, throughout this process of going through. Clearly you're passionate about it, which is the funnest part about having you on the show. And secondly, that passion is finding its way into the products that are being developed and brought to market, including those that you mentioned today at CES. Now, we could talk for hours with you, but what I have to say is because this is a show and we gotta, you know, got the producer in our ear right now saying we gotta let you go. But because of that, I do want to say you're always welcome back here. I'm sure we'll be inviting you back. We wish you, Alex, a tremendously successful virtual CES 2021. I can promise you we'll be watching. So we gotta say goodbye, but thanks so much for joining us today. You're welcome.
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Patrick Moorhead36:13
Thanks, Alex. I love having Alex on. This is fun. And you know, I had a real job, Daniel, before I became an industry analyst, and passion is not everything, but it's a lot, particularly when you're trying to do things differently and drive change. And that's why I love having Alex on, and I like to see what they're doing. They're taking risks. I like that. I mean, they do risky stuff which in the PC industry you just don't see a lot of, because you make a mistake, the margins are low, and you get punished. So I appreciate that.
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Daniel36:51
Well, it's diversifying, it's meeting customers where they are, it's looking at new ways to provide value. You know, my wife doesn't read my books, she was the CEO of a company. I just know, Pat, that someday she's going to listen to one podcast, and that's going to be the one where you inform her that we don't really work. But in all seriousness, when you love what you do, when the passion's there, I know it's cliche, but it really does make life really good to do this. So hey, what a show, man. Let's take this home for everybody out there. Go ahead and check out the show notes. We're going to go ahead and attach some of the details to some of the launches that Alex Cho mentioned. We'll also try to put links into some of the past episodes because you got to listen to Alex. We keep bringing him back because he really does do a good job of weaving a story together. So go ahead, click the show notes, click that subscribe button, stick with us. I hope you like what we're doing here. You're seeing we're getting more graphics, we're getting more engaged here.