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Anthony Scaramucci
Founder, SkyBridge Capital

Gary Lineker & Anthony Scaramucci: Pizza, Politics and the Mafia

📅 Jul 21, 2026 Goalhanger and 3 more 23 MIN 251016 VIEWS 156 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
*REUPLOAD* From New York’s oldest pizzeria and the site of one of the city’s most notorious mob hits to Donald Trump and the future of America… Anthony Scaramucci takes Gary Lineker on a deeply personal tour of Little Italy, where his grandparents found a home after arriving from Italy and where he spent much of his childhood. Over pizza, clams and gelato, they discuss New York’s immigrant history, Scaramucci’s connections to the mob, Donald Trump’s influence on the World Cup, America’s growing political divide and whether “The Mooch” could ever run for president himself. They also explore...

What Anthony Scaramucci said

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Anthony Scaramucci walked Gary Lineker through Little Italy, New York, during the 2026 World Cup, discussing Italian-American immigrant history, the neighborhood's decline from six blocks to one and a half, and the legacy of Lombardi's pizzeria, founded in 1905. He praised the World Cup's US ratings, calling 50-60 million viewers per game 'a half a Super Bowl.' He described America as 'troubled,' citing 70% of Americans unhappy with the country's direction, and criticized Trump movement elements as 'dog whistlers for white supremacy.' He argued immigration is America's backbone, citing Sergey Brin's $200 billion fortune as an example. He expressed optimism about America's future, noting historical cycles of renewal. He discussed Trump's norm-breaking, FIFA's proximity to power, and the potential for post-partisan reform, mentioning 105 million consistent voters and the need to win over 20 million swing voters. He declined to rule out future political runs, citing family concerns.

Key takeaways

  1. Scaramucci said 50-60 million Americans watched certain World Cup games, calling it 'a half a Super Bowl.'
  2. He claimed 70% of Americans are unhappy with the country's direction and want more moderate, stable politics.
  3. He cited Sergey Brin, a Ukrainian Jewish refugee worth $200 billion, as proof immigration drives innovation.
  4. He said 105 million Americans vote the same way every election, and 20 million swing voters could 'liquidate the extremes.'

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
1905 Year Lombardi's pizzeria opened and his grandmother was born timeline 0:40
4 million Italian Americans arrived in the US over 35 years metric 0:44
121 years Age of Lombardi's pizzeria timeline 1:06
1 and 1/2 blocks Current size of Little Italy metric 1:24
50, 60 million US viewers for certain World Cup games metric 2:10
70% Americans unhappy with country's direction metric 9:50
$200 billion Sergey Brin's net worth metric 11:19
105 million Americans who vote the same way every election metric 19:40
20 million Swing voters needed to shift the system metric 20:40

Chapters

  1. 0:00Little Italy and immigrant history
  2. 2:03World Cup reception in America
  3. 3:45Lombardi's pizzeria and old-school pizza
  4. 6:12Mafia influence and Joey Gallo killing
  5. 9:41American political instability
  6. 10:29Immigration and nativism
  7. 14:11Trump's norm-breaking and FIFA
  8. 15:58World Cup unity and political lessons
  9. 20:55Future political ambitions

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:05What does this place represent for you?
  2. 2:03I want to ask you about how it's been received in America. Has it caught on?
  3. 2:20What does it mean to New York to host the final?
  4. 3:13What did you think of him? You liked him?
  5. 3:24He's got a real smile, hasn't he?
  6. 4:58Call it a pie. Why is it a pie?
  7. 6:30Did you ever know any of the big dogs in that world?
  8. 7:44And they all get on, yeah?
  9. 9:41It's a bit unstable, isn't it?
  10. 11:13Why do you think they're doing that?
  11. 14:11What do you make of the politics of the World Cup and the occasional intervention of the president?
  12. 14:58Do you think FIFA have allowed themselves to be influenced so much by Trump?
Gary Lineker 0:05 ↗
What does this place represent for you?
Anthony Scaramucci 0:07 ↗
My grandparents came from Italy. This was a destination for them when they felt homesick. This is where they could go live a part of Italy. And of course I love coming here as a kid. But I wanted to bring you here because this is representative of my ethnicity. And since it's the World Cup and Italy didn't make the World Cup, Gary. I had to bring you here.
I wanted to take you to this neighborhood because this is a neighborhood that I used to come to when I was a kid.
Gary Lineker 0:37 ↗
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:38 ↗
This is considered the first pizzeria.
Gary Lineker 0:40 ↗
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:40 ↗
1905, the year of my grandmother's birth.
Gary Lineker 0:44 ↗
Mhm.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:44 ↗
This place was team is probably 4 million Italian Americans arrived here over a 35-year period of time. And a lot of them had hard times finding jobs. So what they did, Gary, I'm going to take you through the area, is they formed little storefronts.
Gary Lineker 0:58 ↗
Fantastic.
Anthony Scaramucci 0:59 ↗
And it was a way to become entrepreneurs and then to serve each other.
Gary Lineker 1:03 ↗
So this place has been owned for 120 years.
Anthony Scaramucci 1:06 ↗
121 years.
Gary Lineker 1:07 ↗
I'm expecting a good pizza then.
Anthony Scaramucci 1:09 ↗
Yeah, they make a great pie in here. And it's an old-school place. People still love coming from all over the world.
Gary Lineker 1:15 ↗
Right. What are we having?
Anthony Scaramucci 1:16 ↗
Yes, so we're going to get a margarita.
Gary Lineker 1:18 ↗
I'm just get the classic pie.
Anthony Scaramucci 1:24 ↗
Little Italy used to be massive. It was about six blocks when I was a kid. It's about 1 and 1/2 blocks today.
Gary Lineker 1:30 ↗
Why? Why is it shrunk?
Anthony Scaramucci 1:31 ↗
People moved out. You know, they assimilated into the culture. They moved out to Long Island. They moved to New Jersey. They moved up to Westchester. And they built their families, but they all started here. Couldn't speak the language. They sort of got together to help each other. I wanted to bring you here because this to me represents the world.
Gary Lineker 1:51 ↗
Right.
Anthony Scaramucci 1:51 ↗
Manhattan was a tractor beam for immigrants. Not just the Italians, but the Irish, the Greeks, the Spaniards, the Chinese. Everybody arrived here with a hope and a dream.
Gary Lineker 2:03 ↗
A lot like the World Cup. I want to ask you about how it's been received in America. Has it caught on?
Anthony Scaramucci 2:10 ↗
No, it's been super exciting. I think the ratings were through the roof in the United States. You have 50, 60 million people watching certain games. That's a half a Super Bowl. I think it's been phenomenal.
Gary Lineker 2:20 ↗
What does it mean to New York to host the final?
Anthony Scaramucci 2:23 ↗
I think it means everything. This city, we see it as a global city. We see it as a city of opportunity. You know, I grew up 20 miles outside this city. And my parents used to take me here. Took me to Lombardi's. I'm going to take you over to Umberto's. They took me to all the... Took me to Ferrara's for pastries as a kid.
Gary Lineker 2:40 ↗
Are we going to meet any mafia people?
Anthony Scaramucci 2:42 ↗
Well, you're already meeting a mafia people. What's wrong with you?
Gary Lineker 2:45 ↗
I'm safe, yeah?
Anthony Scaramucci 2:46 ↗
Yeah, you're safe. You don't have to worry. But in all seriousness, I just want you to think about how we grew up. My parents used to say, 'Okay, someday you're going to get a job in New York. Someday you're going to work in Manhattan. And you're going to seek your aspiration here.' And this is the most amazing place. Today, even today, you can come in here hard scrabble with little to no money, Gary. And if you've got industry and passion and enthusiasm, you can find your way in a city like this.
Gary Lineker 3:13 ↗
You interviewed the mayor. I loved that interview. What did you think of him? You liked him?
Anthony Scaramucci 3:17 ↗
I think he's a very impressive person. He's quite charismatic. He's done a good job.
Gary Lineker 3:22 ↗
Mark speaks brilliantly.
Anthony Scaramucci 3:23 ↗
He's done a good job.
Gary Lineker 3:24 ↗
He's got a real smile, hasn't he? A twinkle in his eye.
Anthony Scaramucci 3:27 ↗
Yeah, yeah, he's got the best smile in American politics since Barack Obama. This kid knows what he's doing.
Remember with... Yeah, this is some old school stuff here, so. All right, give me your plate.
Gary Lineker 3:44 ↗
There you go.
Anthony Scaramucci 3:45 ↗
This is how they made it back in the day. And remember it here with Mr. Lombardi, if you were poor and you came in, he said what could you afford? Somebody said 2 cents worth back in 1905, he cut him a smaller slice. Somebody said 5 cents worth, they got a bigger slice.
Gary Lineker 4:02 ↗
Oh, oh great.
Anthony Scaramucci 4:03 ↗
Lombardi. That was a very famous story. Breakfast of champions right here. See that? That is perfect crust. You see that? And look at the top here. It's not overdone, but it's crispy and this is exactly why I'm fat. And this is why we're going to have the rest of his diet at some point for the Golaher people. But not today. Not today. For me, there's a lot of pride coming to a place like this for me. Because I think of my grandparents, I think of them coming here with no money. I think of my grandfather's family was a farming family up in the mountains of southern Italy. Every time I come in here, I think of that struggle, you know, and I think of how hard it was for them and how easy they made it for me. How's it feel? It's classic American stuff, you know.
Gary Lineker 4:55 ↗
How good is a pie, though, right?
Anthony Scaramucci 4:56 ↗
Really good.
Gary Lineker 4:58 ↗
Call it a pie. Why is it a pie?
Anthony Scaramucci 5:00 ↗
No, it's called a pizza pie.
Gary Lineker 5:02 ↗
Pizza pie.
Anthony Scaramucci 5:03 ↗
Yeah. When I was a kid, this was a pizza pie. You want a pizza pie.
This was all Italians down here. And in every block and they would rent these apartments and then what would they do for a living? Oh, jeez, we got to do something. And so they would start things, right? And so I'm going to walk you over to Parisi's bakery over here. We'll just take a look.
This is 100 plus years old. When you went to an Italian wedding, you know what the toast was? May your life be like a loaf of Italian bread, long and filled with dough.
Gary Lineker 5:39 ↗
You like that, right?
Anthony Scaramucci 5:40 ↗
I love that. And Sinatra used to call here, he'd fly the bread to Palm Springs. He'd fly the bread to LA.
Fan 5:47 ↗
Oh, love your show.
Anthony Scaramucci 5:47 ↗
Oh, thank you. You listen?
Fan 5:51 ↗
Oh, yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci 5:51 ↗
Thank you. Say hello to Gary Lineker. He owns the company.
Fan 5:54 ↗
Hi. Hello.
Anthony Scaramucci 5:54 ↗
I'm just one of his minions.
Fan 5:57 ↗
Your show is awesome.
Anthony Scaramucci 5:59 ↗
Thank you.
Fan 5:59 ↗
I love it too. Thank you.
Anthony Scaramucci 6:00 ↗
Thank you.
Gary Lineker 6:01 ↗
Come on, minion.
Anthony Scaramucci 6:02 ↗
Thank you. We've made you famous.
Gary Lineker 6:03 ↗
You made me famous.
Anthony Scaramucci 6:05 ↗
Actually, you made yourself infamous. Say hello to Gary Lineker, my brand manager, okay?
I just want you to imagine in the middle of the summer, kids out on the fire escapes, the accordions are playing. The mob had a big influence in this city. There's no question about it. And down here was a protected place. So, no crime in this area.
Gary Lineker 6:30 ↗
Did you ever know any of the big dogs in that world?
Anthony Scaramucci 6:33 ↗
The big dogs, well, listen, I'm good friends with John Gotti Jr. I actually saw John yesterday. His father was obviously, you know, John Gotti. My father was more like the De Niro character in the Bronx Tale. He kept his nose clean. He paid all of his bills. He made sure that we stayed away from all of that stuff, you know, but this was a place you would come. And here's San Gennaro, patron saint of Little Italy.
Gary Lineker 6:57 ↗
Yeah.
Anthony Scaramucci 6:58 ↗
They have the Feast of San Gennaro, and they'll close this street down. And they'll be a marketplace out here, and they'll be where you can gamble, you know, play the numbers, all the old-school stuff.
As we get to the ball, this is one of the best Italian delis, food shops. Everything is imported in here.
Gary Lineker 7:18 ↗
Of Italian deli. I'm sure.
Anthony Scaramucci 7:20 ↗
You can go from the pasta to the deli and you can get your prosciutto and your melon and everything that you possibly need. You're in Little Italy. But if we cross Mott Street, we're in Chinatown.
Gary Lineker 7:34 ↗
The Chinatown.
Anthony Scaramucci 7:35 ↗
Okay, so we've got both continents represented on this little block. And for over 100 years the Italians and the Chinese have lived in this area and they've cohabitated.
Gary Lineker 7:44 ↗
And they all get on, yeah?
Anthony Scaramucci 7:45 ↗
They all get on. Well, that's the beauty of it. That's the message of the World Cup. That's the message of the whole thing. It's a beautiful thing. That's the message of the whole thing.
Gary Lineker 7:53 ↗
Football saves the world. When you grew up and you would come to Little Italy, would you sometimes venture into Chinatown?

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Scaramucci, A. (2026, July 21). Gary Lineker & Anthony Scaramucci: Pizza, Politics and the Mafia [Interview transcript]. Goalhanger and 3 more. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2913983/

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Anthony Scaramucci. "Gary Lineker & Anthony Scaramucci: Pizza, Politics and the Mafia." Goalhanger and 3 more, 21 Jul. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2913983/.

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@misc{scaramucci2026_2913983,
  author       = {Anthony Scaramucci},
  title        = {Gary Lineker \& Anthony Scaramucci: Pizza, Politics and the Mafia},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Goalhanger and 3 more. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jul},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2913983/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}