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Mad Money 06/04/26 | Audio Only

📅 Jun 04, 2026 CNBC Television 44 MIN 10392 VIEWS 84 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
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  1. 12:19Our quarter ends at the end of April, right?
  2. 15:58How does all this work?' And you know, how do we make sure we're secure?
  3. 19:00What AI has done is it's created more adversaries with greater sophistication because they're leveraging the models themselves. So, what does that mean?
Jim Cramer 0:01 ↗
My mission is simple: to make you money. I'm here to level the playing field for all investors. There's always a bull market somewhere, and I promise to help you find it. Mad Money starts now.
Hey, I'm Cramer. Welcome to Mad Money. Welcome to Cramer to my friends. I'm just trying to make some money. My job is not just to entertain, but to do some explaining. So, call me at 1-800-743-CBC or tweet me at Jim Cramer. So far, so good. That's all I can say about how the market's taking earnings disappointments and new stock offerings, traditionally huge obstacles to a raging bull.
Yesterday, Alphabet did a gigantic equity offering to fund its AI buildout, at the same time that we learned about two very high-profile alleged earnings disappointments from Broadcom, and tonight's guest, CrowdStrike. But the market shook off the disappointments. The Dow only surging 875 points, S&P jumping 4.1%, and the tech-laden Nasdaq is dipping 0.09%. But it was a dramatic turnaround for what looked to be a miserable session.
The house of pain, house of pleasure. As someone who counts himself very concerned about the new supply of stock that's about to hit the market right as we're getting not-so-hot earnings, well, today's rally was truly a welcome surprise. Earnings disappointments and big chunks of equity flying around usually mean tough times are ahead. There typically isn't enough money in the market to take care of business when business includes the aforementioned Alphabet deal plus the gigantic SpaceX IPO with its worrisome lack of earnings, or Anthropic, which comes under the category of who knows. Yet the market shrugged it all off, even though this is coming at a time when there's still no resolution to the war in Iran and only a paper-thin ceasefire between Israel and whoever the heck is supposed to be running Lebanon. I find that pretty amazing. I don't know about you, especially when you consider the oil companies are just now signaling there's no more inventory to cushion a hefty rise in the price of gasoline. So then what drove today's rally? Well, there are a couple things that could be at work here. Most obvious is that the disappointing earnings may not be as crushing as we think. This is not the first time that Broadcom, which is by the way a gigantic company, has offered a measured forecast only to crush the numbers next quarter. The stock had gone parabolic into the quarter, and as we told CNBC Investing Club members when we sold some stock ahead of this quarter this week, a parabola is never a good sign.
Plus, when we speak with George Kurtz, the CEO of CrowdStrike tonight, I think we're going to get a much better sense of how well the cybersecurity company's doing, and the notion of an earnings or a forecast disappointment may be misplaced.
So, one, the disappointments really weren't all that disappointing. And now let's talk about the delusion deal. Something may be going on with the underwriting process that we haven't seen very often. We just had a phenomenally successful Alphabet secondary priced well by Goldman Sachs to the point that it looked like we had very few flippers and a lot more demand than we expected. It was an outstanding success, just a huge amount of demand.
Then look at this Continuum, which just started trading today. There was so much more demand. This is a company that doesn't make any money at all. There was so much demand than anyone expected that the underwriters had to upsize the deal dramatically twice. The stock was up big earlier today. Although it pulled back at the close, it still finished the session in the black, meaning most of the buyers held on to their shares rather than flipping them. That's nothing short of miraculous. I was prepared to see a sloppy deal that would go up a couple dollars then roll over, bringing the whole market down with it.
It didn't happen. That is a huge load of worry taken off the table.
It suggests that the next couple IPOs ahead of us might be better received than we think, certainly than I thought. The great news for SpaceX, that's terrific, and Freedom, both of which are on the docket. And let's be honest, these companies need the help. We know SpaceX is losing a ton of money, and therefore there's always a fear that buyers will just walk away, even if it is with Elon Musk. Plus, the level of skepticism around AI has become downright toxic these days. I keep hearing that nobody's getting a real return on all that spending except for Nvidia, which makes the chips. Yet the stock, Nvidia, has a lot of I don't know what's coming. The technical term I learned at Goldman Sachs: mojo doesn't have it. The darn thing has been playing a game of shoots and ladders with its shareholders.
It gets better. This morning, the worries over private credit started all over again. Remember when all the intelligent told how bad that was going to be with the talk of redemptions by individuals who didn't know the risk of these funds? Blackstone, a gigantic private equity shop, limited redemptions of a flagship private credit fund during its regularly scheduled opening. Normally, that kind of news, oh boy, it would cause a lot of fear and send the entire market plummeting, as it regularly did not that long ago. Instead, the market just chose to overlook it. And in a sign that even the bears are wary of this yarn, Blackstone stock jumped 7.5% today. It was the best performer in the entire S&P 500. Two months ago, it probably would have been the worst performer in the S&P 500. The doom-mongers would have just taken this one to town. KKR and Ares Management, two more private equity firms that have been inflicted by redemptions, also rallied nicely. In fact, they were among the top 10 performers in the whole S&P 500, too. Now, I don't want to get ahead of myself. For one thing, tech didn't lead today's market, but it got broad. And a respite when we saw of the endless data center stocks running, guess what? We saw a host of non-data center stocks do well today. Let me go over a couple of welcome signposts. First, the banks went up. Well, glory be, the banks went up. The financials are arguably the most important sector of the year and sector out there, and they've been the worst performers of the year. Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley are both winning big in the hyperscaler stock derby, running away with the honors and deals, but they have been in a club of their own. Today we saw something like real life in real banks like JPMorgan, PNC, Citigroup, a bunch of the other large banks. A sign that the economy may be healthier than we think. Now we're on the eve of the monthly employment numbers, so perhaps people are betting on a bullish labor report tomorrow morning, meaning decent hiring, low no inflation. Either way, the left-for-dead bank showed some real resilience, and it was a welcome sign.
Healthcare had been a total no-fly zone for the last few months, other than Cramer-favorite Lilly. Now, this time we saw a host of drug companies and health insurers rally, something that shows there's a pulse away from tech. Oh, and this market saw a standout performance in a trucking company. We just featured FedEx Freight, an outlet we had on the show earlier this week. An unhealthy market is not led by a trucking company. Just like the banks, the transports make for great leaders. I'm not a dreamer, though. I know that if the Alphabet deal had gone poorly, you could expect the big institutions will be less inclined to buy the money-losing SpaceX. And you can't pull off the biggest IPO in history with just the little guy. You need the big money, too. And yes, we're unsure of the capital needs of the hyperscalers, but if Anthropic's growing as rapidly as we hear, maybe those worries are misplaced, too. All right, enough. I've thrown a lot of pangloss at you. All I can say is that at 4:00 a.m. this morning, we seemed to be on track for one of the worst days of the year. But at 4:00 p.m. this afternoon,
All aboard, we left here thinking, how did the bull run over the matador in a tremendous display of power despite Broadcom, despite CrowdStrike, despite a surprise gigantic equity offering from Alphabet that did so well? Alphabet bought back $45 billion worth of stock. In the first quarter of this year, it snapped up another $15 billion. So, it's last year $45, this year $15. Now, it is selling similar volumes. Can you believe that? Sold it. All the stock they bought last year. Wow. Here's the bottom line. The word I have to use to describe this market is appetite. Right now, ahead of some gigantic underwritings, this market has a huge appetite. One that could shrug off a bear with a gigantic GLP-1 hypodermic needle and still be hungry for more. Let's go to Jim in Wisconsin. Jim,
Hey Jim, love your show. I love your book, How to Make Money in Any Markets. Fabulous.
What a gent you are. Actually, I was with a CEO today who read it and said, 'I finally understand what a price-earnings multiple is.' How can I help you?
It makes you make it understandable. My question today is on Uber Technologies. I bought it back in January of last year for about $63. I sold it in December for $83. Now I've been watching it since February of this year. It's been ping-ponging in a small range of about 72 to 77 with much movement. Now I know there's competition. What's your read on this reasonable growth and scale in the next year or two? What do you feel?
I think the next year or two you want to buy this stock. It's settled down. I like a stock that's come down heavily that is still doing well. I think you got horse sense. But listen, this market's still got a huge appetite for all this new supply getting thrown at it. So, I'll take today's rally as a welcome surprise.
On Mad Money tonight, CrowdStrike sold off today despite a top- and bottom-line beast. So, is Wall Street getting something wrong here? I'm going straight to the source, CEO George Kurtz, to find out. Then, shares of Honeywell spin-off Quantinuum started trading today. So, should you be looking to start a position in this quantum play? I'm sharing where I come down. And Timken might seem like an old-school industrial, but it's entering a new age amid the reshoring effort in the US. I'm learning more about this company from its top brass. So stay with Cramer.
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Last night, CrowdStrike reported what I thought was an excellent quarter, but the stock got hammered today, mainly because the cybersecurity company didn't beat the estimates by as much as we've all come accustomed to. The guidance was strong, too, and they even announced a 4-for-1 stock split, which shouldn't matter in theory, but in practice tends to attract more individual investors. And I think this is a buying opportunity. But don't take it from me. Earlier today, I had the chance to speak with George Kurtz, the founder and CEO of CrowdStrike. Take a look.
George, welcome back to Mad Money.
George Kurtz 11:02 ↗
Jim, great to be here.
Jim Cramer 11:04 ↗
You know, George, I got to tell you, I followed your company since you came public, and I saw you had record new annual recurring revenue. You had accelerating revenue growth. You had record cash flow. You had free cash flow that was terrific. You had new ARR that was great, but somehow it was regarded as disappointing. So, I have to believe that at some level you might have been surprised that this quarter was disappointing.
George Kurtz 11:28 ↗
Well, Jim, the way I look at it is we have the best products and we're taking care of our customers in an era where AI is obviously going to be pervasive and you're going to need security. So, I thought we posted a fantastic quarter. Obviously, you went through some of the stats. The other stat that I'll point out to you is our Rule of 40 was 59. So when you think about the growth and the cash flow generation, it's insane at our scale. So we're very proud of the quarter and we're excited about the future and the tailwinds that we're seeing from AI.
Jim Cramer 11:59 ↗
But let me posit something. We've had this terrible discovery, basically this Mythos, where it looks like things are way out of control. And I figured that you would have a huge amount of business when this news broke, but it doesn't seem like maybe it turned into a lot of business. Was I wrong?
George Kurtz 12:19 ↗
Well, Jim, you have to look at the calendar. You're talking about Mythos breaking in the middle of April. Our quarter ends at the end of April, right? So, we're selling enterprise software, not necessarily shipping boxes. So, these things take time to get into customers' hands. You got to go through a sales cycle. But what I want to point out is you have to look at the guidance of the next quarter. We raised the full-year guidance across the entire year, our net new ARR guidance by over $50 million, over 520 basis points, which is an incredible raise. So we have the confidence to do that because we see the opportunity that's in front of us and we see what customers are looking for, which is CrowdStrike, which is our AIDR technology, AI detection and response, to be able to identify rogue AI agents and be able to protect those and allow people to actually accelerate their AI adoption in an enterprise.
Jim Cramer 13:07 ↗
Well, I mean, is it possible that people are concerned that you did not raise your near-term ARR? You came in with $551 million versus $550.3 million, and people thought that maybe the spring rally wasn't justified.
George Kurtz 13:30 ↗
Well, I would point you to the whole year, Jim. You know, 520 basis points is a big move, and we see this taking place across the entire entirety of the year. So, we feel really good about the raise. I think we feel fantastic about the pipeline. As an example, our AIDR technology, we're entering the pipeline with over $50 million in Q2 alone. We saw 250% quarter-over-quarter growth just in that product alone. And what I know from talking to customers is they want to roll out more AI, and if you need more AI, you want to consume more AI, you're going to need security. So yeah, I thought it was a great Q1, and we're excited about the future and the guidance that we provided.
Jim Cramer 14:13 ↗
Right. Well, I couldn't agree more. It's why I told our people who belong to the Investing Club, don't believe what you read. This is an amazing quarter. I want to ask about Project Glasswing from Anthropic. What I understand from the people I talked to, you're pretty much leading the cybersecurity efforts to try to figure out what to do here. Despite the fact that Anthropic thought at one point that they could handle it themselves, I don't think that insurance companies wanted Anthropic to handle it themselves. And I think they wanted you to do it because I think you actually know how to stop it.
George Kurtz 14:50 ↗
Jim, what's important to realize is that security is an ecosystem, and to be successful, you need to have an ecosystem that's going to help customers and help partners. So when you look at what Anthropic has come out with, they've got some great models, no doubt. But in order to be able to work with customers, you have to take advantage of those deep, trusted relationships with which companies like CrowdStrike have built over the last 15 years. You have to leverage the deep data moat that we have with our Falcon technology, and you have to leverage the fact that we're in the middle of helping to stop these big breaches or helping non-customers respond to the breaches they have, and then we turn them into customers. So I think the ecosystem is a key part. They recognize that, and we're happy to be part of that coalition. And you know, again, we're also working with OpenAI in their TAC program. So we're at the epicenter of AI and security, and I think that goes to show you the leadership position that we have.
Jim Cramer 15:47 ↗
Well, can you talk to me about Project Quiltworks and what you are doing there, because that seems to be equally as important for the future as what you might be doing with Glasswing.
George Kurtz 15:58 ↗
It is. Well, when you think about Glasswing, when it came out, you have only a handful of companies that have access to Mythos. So you have a lot of customers, their boards, their CEOs saying, 'What can we do?' I mean, I have CEOs calling me in the middle of the night, Fortune 10 companies going, 'Mythos, you know, help us. What can we do? How does all this work?' And you know, how do we make sure we're secure? So, we're in the middle of these conversations, and the opportunity is so large that you need to create a coalition around this, the Accenture, the EY of the world, etc., where they can work using our technology to help customers understand where their exposures are. We're finding millions of exposures in companies that we go into. Those need to be prioritized, and you need to understand what mitigating controls like Falcon are in place to be able to prevent against those. So the great opportunity here is we have our partners drop into either customers or non-customers that we turn into customers because they're using our technology as part of this AI readiness assessment. So it's really a multiplier effect for us.
Jim Cramer 16:56 ↗
Aren't you surprised that when everything first broke, even in the winter, when we realized all the different vulnerabilities, that somehow all this stuff was there, there was a belief that it was bad for CrowdStrike? When I know, I know when I first saw it, I said, 'Oh my God, bonanza.' And yet all I read for so long was, 'This is the end of CrowdStrike.' What do you think went wrong with that narrative? How did people just get it completely backward?
George Kurtz 17:25 ↗
Well, Jim, you have to look at security. There's many different facets, and finding vulnerabilities in source code is one facet of it. Okay. And that's what the LLM models do pretty well. But then you have to look at the overall purpose of security. It's to stop the breach. You have to be in line. You have to get it right. You know, the first time you see a threat. You've got to be able to create data that allows you to understand what's happening and train that data. And we have a massive proprietary data moat from, you know, over a decade of doing this. So at the end of the day, we can use these LLMs to be more successful and have greater impact with our customers, but it's only one aspect of what you need to do to build a security platform like Falcon. So when this came out, I think a lot of people were confused that if you got rid of all the vulnerabilities, that the world would be safe. That's not the case. You can get rid of all the vulnerabilities in the world, and you would still have break-ins because you have things like identity theft. And what I mean by that is your credentials, your username, your password, your tokens get stolen, people log into a system and steal all that data. So there are many ways to get into a system. Exploiting a vulnerability is just one of those. And you're never going to get rid of all of them. And you're still going to need a full lifecycle system, a system of record like Falcon, to be able to stop those breaches.
Jim Cramer 18:44 ↗
And look, I know that I've been limiting my questions to this notion of what happens with the Anthropic Mythos. There's been no diminution of the just plain vanilla, 'I'm going to wreck your company, pay me' kind of things that CrowdStrike does for a living.
George Kurtz 19:00 ↗
Absolutely not. You know, Jim, we have talked extensively about extortionware and ransomware, right? Where these cyber gangs will basically get into a large company or even small companies that don't have the level of protection. It's really shameful. They get in and they extort these folks. And you need security up and down the entire business stack, right? Whether it's a small business or whether it's a large enterprise, and we're only seeing more and more of these sort of attacks. What AI has done is it's created more adversaries with greater sophistication because they're leveraging the models themselves. So, what does that mean? It means more tailwinds for companies like CrowdStrike.
Jim Cramer 19:39 ↗
Okay, last question. There were so many people in cybersecurity when I first started talking to you. I kind of feel like that it's gotten so big and the threats are so horrible that you need a complete suite, and the only one other than you that has a pretty complete suite would be Nikesh Arora's company, Palo Alto Networks. Is it just you and them? Is it just their duopoly now?
George Kurtz 20:04 ↗
Well, I think the platform vendors are ultimately going to win. Obviously, it's a big market and it's a competitive market, but we like where we are given our position, given how we've built the technology from the ground up as being sort of native integrated technology. And you know, we come at it just from a different approach of how we drive innovation as opposed to just acquiring a bunch of technologies. But at the end of the day, you have just a few big players that are out there, and I think there's a lot of opportunity for the companies that are out there, but there's only a handful of them, as you pointed out. All right. And I like our chances.

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