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Nathaniel Whittemore
Host, The AI Daily Brief; Founder & CEO, Superintelligent, The AI Daily Brief

The AI Backlash Is Getting Stupider But Also Smarter

📅 Aug 20, 2026 The AI Daily Brief: Artificial Intelligence News 26 MIN 4974 VIEWS 5 SEGMENTS · 1 SPEAKERS
Data center backlash swings between viral meme campaigns and Governor Shapiro's surprisingly substantive executive order, revealing two very different tracks for AI's political fight. NLW breaks down why targeted regulation beats blanket moratoriums, and how OpenAI's voluntary training pause signals a shift toward real safety accountability. In the headlines: fresh scrutiny over OpenAI and Anthropic's revenue claims, Anthropic's push for founder-controlled voting shares ahead of the IPO, and Google's winning bid for Spirit Airlines' corporate data. The AI Daily Brief helps you understand the...

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Nathaniel Whittemore discusses the paradox of the anti-AI backlash: it's both more meme-driven and more productive. He covers OpenAI's and Anthropic's revenue figures, noting OpenAI's $40 billion annualized run rate and Anthropic's $65 billion, amid skepticism from the Wall Street Journal and SemiAnalysis. Whittemore highlights Anthropic's plans for super voting shares for co-founders and Google's $10 million bid for Spirit Airlines' corporate data. He analyzes the anti-data center sentiment, citing Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's executive order with specific criteria rather than a moratorium, and notes public opposition to data centers exceeds that of nuclear power plants. Whittemore discusses OpenAI pausing some training for safety, attributed to the Hugging Face incident and potential critical cyber capabilities of the Astra model, and sees the executive order's requirements, like community benefit agreements and NDA prohibitions, as positive steps toward trust and progress.

Key takeaways

  1. OpenAI paused some frontier RL training for safety, citing the Hugging Face incident and Astra's potential critical cyber designation.
  2. Pennsylvania's Shapiro signed an executive order with specific data center criteria, not a blanket moratorium, which Whittemore sees as a positive step.
  3. Polls show 62% oppose AI data centers locally, versus 57% for nuclear power plants.
  4. Google won Spirit Airlines' corporate data in bankruptcy auction with a $10 million bid, beating Merkor's $7.5 million.
  5. Anthropic plans super voting shares for co-founders ahead of IPO, with co-founders owning about 15% collectively.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
$40 billion OpenAI annualized revenue run rate metric 1:53
$65 billion Anthropic annualized revenue run rate metric 1:53
18% OpenAI Q2 revenue growth metric 1:53
$6.7 billion OpenAI Q2 revenue metric 1:53
20% OpenAI July month-over-month revenue growth metric 1:53
40% Anthropic ARR from indirect channels in Q2 metric 4:31
50% Discount on GPT 5.6 tokens on OpenRouter and Vercel Gateway price 4:31
$10 million Google's winning bid for Spirit Airlines data price 4:31
62% Opposition to AI data centers locally metric 10:31
20% Inference compute OpenAI plans to spend on monitoring during pause commitment 10:31

Chapters

  1. 0:00AI Lab Revenue Scrutiny
  2. 4:31Anthropic Governance Overhaul
  3. 10:31Anti-Data Center Backlash
Nathaniel Whittemore 0:00 ↗
The anti-AI conversation is somehow getting dumber and more productive at the same time. This week, a centrist governor who just a year ago was touting AI investment in the state reversed course entirely to sign an extremely strong executive order that makes it much harder for data centers to get built in his state. We also saw a commercial go viral that features a former NFL star turned podcaster sending his urine to a data center. There is no doubt that American animosity towards data centers is at a high and politicians are recognizing it. And yet, as OpenAI voluntarily pauses their training and that governor that we were just mentioning before chose an executive order with specific criteria that data center builders could meet instead of a blanket moratorium, I actually think that there's way more positive progress on the horizon than it might seem right now. The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI.
All right, friends. Quick announcements before we dive in. One thing that I wanted to flag coming up next week. If you have listened to any of my recent episodes on graph engineering or loops, we have got a practical webinar and workshop for you. The premise is that your AI can do a lot more than it's probably doing. If you set it up for success, it can work until the job is done. In this session, we're going to take the sort of agentic loops that developers and software engineers are already using and make them applicable for knowledge workers of all stripes. The first 60 minutes will be a live session led by Newfar Gaspar that explains loops, shows a real loop live in action, explains graph engineering, and has time for Q&A. And then in the next 30 minutes, we'll have a hands-on lab where you can design a loop for your own work. This is completely free and happening next Wednesday, August 26th, at 2 p.m. Eastern. And if you register and can't make it, we will send you the recording as well. All the information will be on aidbrief.ai and I'll see you next Wednesday.
We kick off today with a story that really got my goat yesterday, but is relevant, even if I disagree with the tone of the reporting because of how it's being received on Wall Street. The TLDR is that the two major AI labs, OpenAI and Anthropic, of course, are facing increased scrutiny after reports around their revenue this week. OpenAI recently told investors that they had surpassed a $40 billion annualized revenue run rate, while Anthropic told investors they had reached 65 billion. Both numbers seemed pretty positive at first, showing that revenue was still growing quite strongly despite a summer slowdown. However, capturing the zeitgeist of the pre-IPO period, where as many folks are looking for reasons to not be enthusiastic as they are to pump the numbers, the skeptics think that they found some weaknesses underneath. On the OpenAI side, the Wall Street Journal dropped a piece called OpenAI's second quarter sales show tepid growth compared with Anthropic. OpenAI had told investors they saw 18% revenue growth across the entire second quarter to reach 6.7 billion in revenue. However, citing sources familiar with the matter, the journal wrote its operating margins sank further into the red, pushing the company farther away from profitability ahead of a much anticipated initial public offering. So, that is factually accurate. So, where's my beef? Well, you being a smart individual who decided to turn on this show today might notice that we're pretty deep into August right now and that the second quarter ended at the end of June. If we are trying to understand a momentum story, is it perhaps worth asking what has happened in the subsequent 7 weeks since the quarter ended, especially in the context of an industry which moves as fast as AI does. What the journal says about that is the one line, "OpenAI has told investors that its growth rate has picked up since the launch of a set of new models in July," the people said. But not only does that minimize that this entire new period has been subsequent to the release of a frontier model, but it also suggests that our only sources for this information are the same anonymous sources that they had for the rest of it. But that's not true. OpenAI executives have been sharing precise numbers. CFO Sarah Frier has been running around giving precise details and Greg Brockman on CNBC told Andrew Sorcin that July revenue had grown 20% month over month. Not including those very out in the open details only serves to reinforce a narrative. If you ever wonder why people have trust issues when it comes to mainstream media, it's crap like this. But however you feel about my beef with that, it is telling that the Wall Street Journal is finding resonance with increased scrutiny around these companies reported numbers. That is an important signal in terms of understanding where the market is heading into this pre-IPO period. Anthropic, however, in this case has not been spared scrutiny either.
SemiAnalysis CEO Dylan Patel took a pretty big swipe at Anthropic's preferred accounting methods, posting, "Wow, have y'all seen Anthropic ARR as measured by the last 1 hour at 2 p.m. * 8760." The joke is, of course, that Anthropic doesn't measure revenue in a way that would pass muster in public markets. They take the past 4 weeks of API revenue and extrapolate that out to a full year. And whether you agree or not that leads to an inflated figure, at the very least, it's not recurring revenue by the nature of being sold on demand through the API. Now the deeper take came from the main SemiAnalysis account which posted Anthropic crossed 40% of ARR from indirect channels like Bedrock, Foundry, and Gemini agent enterprise in the second quarter of 2016 with API and B2B making up the vast majority of net new ARR dollars at the labs. The mix shift matters because indirect revenue isn't monetized the same way direct is. SemiAnalysis went on to explain that hyperscalers take a cut, but Anthropic counts their revenue before removing that cut, which can make their numbers look a lot better than their competitors. Again, hold aside the details. The takeaway is that scrutiny is ramping up on two of the largest and strongest companies that Wall Street has ever seen. No one has experience pricing companies that are growing revenue at 20% a month after ramping from single-digit billions to tens of billions in a year's time. As the IPO comes nearer, expect the noise to increase as analysts figure out how to even wrap their heads around these businesses. You can also expect a lot more novel business model based approaches to competition. For example, OpenAI is discounting tokens to win a bigger share of the developer market. On Monday, OpenAI announced that GPT 5.6 sold tokens would be half price on OpenRouter and Vercel's Gateway. OpenAI had already applied the same discount to the smaller Luna and Terra variants in recent weeks. The discount increases OpenAI's ability to compete with cheaper Chinese models and also positions their models as a better cost efficiency choice against models from Anthropic. This is particularly important on OpenRouter and Vercel Gateway as a lot of users simply allow the router to make that choice automatically. The discounting is already paying dividends with use of Luna skyrocketing over the past month. It's now the top used closed model on the platform seeing 40% more use than Opus 5 and Sonnet 5 combined and six overall even including the open models. Now, AI bears might warn that this discounting is the beginning of a price war that obviously leads to the AI bubble popping. But OpenRouter isn't necessarily a great place to look for evidence that a price war is actually breaking out. Despite its rise in its big sale to Stripe, OpenRouter is a vanishingly small portion of overall token usage. Meaning that OpenAI can discount pretty heavily on OpenRouter without materially impacting the business. In fact, SemiAnalysis once again believes that this is actually a cunning marketing ploy due to how the media reports OpenRouter metrics. They wrote, "Despite being a very small portion of OpenAI's total token volumes, OpenRouter and Vercel are disproportionately impactful because they are two of the main data sources everyone uses to estimate AI lab and model market share. If the 50% price cut is able to more than 2x token volumes for 56 soul over the next month, many investors will likely naively view it as a big win for OpenAI versus Anthropic." Now, staying on the theme of the pre-IPO period, the information reports that Anthropic is preparing a governance overhaul to give Dario Amodei greater control over the company ahead of the IPO. The TLDR is that Anthropic is preparing to grant super voting shares to Amodei and the other co-founders. Now, this stat alone had a lot of people's gobs smacked. And I thought Palm summed it up pretty well when he wrote, "I don't know what is crazier, Dario only owning 2% of Anthropic or 2% of Anthropic being worth about 20 billion." Coming back to the substance at hand, despite the founders roughly 15% ownership as a collective, the super voting shares would allow them to veto shareholder votes and control appointments to the board. Now, to be clear, using special classes of shares to allow founders to keep control of their company has become relatively common in the tech industry. Google co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin are credited with pioneering the approach in Silicon Valley ahead of Google's 2004 IPO. Mark Zuckerberg then followed prior to Facebook's IPO in 2012, and more recently, we saw Elon Musk take this approach with SpaceX. However, even if these sort of founder shares have become increasingly common, it's not hard to understand why some people are having a different reaction to Anthropic taking that approach than to these other companies. This is a company which using their own framing is attempting to build AI systems so powerful they could have a major impact on the trajectory of society. So powerful in fact where reports say that their founder believes that they could be the only private company left in the world after out competing everyone else. That's a scenario where me thinks people are going to want shareholders and the public at large to have more rather than less control over the decisions that they make. Lastly today, an interesting little story that tells us a bit about how companies are valuing unique data. Google has won a bidding war against AI data labeling service Merkor for the corporate data from Spirit Airlines. The data went under the hammer last week in a bankruptcy auction and Google submitted the winning bid at $10 million, beating Merkor at 7.5 million. What we're seeing is the third big data push of the AI era. First, we saw the AI labs scraping every page of the internet and uploading every available book to train their models on writing and general knowledge. Then the rise of coding agents saw AI labs buying out the code bases of failed startups to build. Now the AI labs are paying up for corporate data to help train their agents to do white collar work. In this case, Google isn't buying customer information or payment records to build a better AI travel product as that data is excluded from the sale. They're purely interested in mundane internal communications data like email, Slack messages, and meeting transcripts. The goal is to use this data to help agents understand how corporations function. Commenting on the bidding war, Merkor said, "Companies are sitting on decades of records that show how real work gets done." There's a surprising amount of interest in this deal, in particular for the possibilities of other data sources that it opens up. Although, there's also a lot of skepticism that it's going to actually be valuable. Maybe the most common take was exemplified by Shicadelik who wrote, "Really, we want to train models to be like spirit." For now, however, that is going to do it for today's headlines. Next up, the main episode.
Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief. Today, we are talking about an interesting paradox. In short, the anti-AI backlash as embodied specifically in the anti-data center backlash is fairly undeniably getting dumber or at least more meme-driven and more performative. But at the same time, some of the latest shifts do suggest that going forward there may be a bit more room for understanding and collaboration than there has been up till now. So how can these two things be true at the same time? Well, to understand, we have to start by looking at the performative and meme side of things. Yesterday, this new Liquid Death commercial featuring Jason Kelce, a former NFL star and one half of the New Heights podcast with his brother, Mr. Taylor Swift, released with the theme of mailing urine to data centers. Liquid Death is of course known for their provocative ad campaigns, and so something like this isn't all that surprising from them. What's notable is that the advertisers read the sentiment in the room and came to the conclusion that an ad about literally mailing urine to data centers would be popular. Wired Max Zev summed it up perfectly. Unfortunately for the tech industry, hating data centers is now so popular that companies think it will help them sell beer and water. Perhaps they were inspired by comedian Charlie Barren who called opposition to data centers the most bipartisan issue since beer. Now, of course, it is not just internet memes where this opposition to data centers and AI and tech more broadly is showing up. Georgia Senator John Ossoff, who is currently running for reelection and who is increasingly being discussed in Democratic circles as an Obama-esque candidate for the 2028 presidency, has made opposition to tech one of his central platforms. In a recent ad, he said, "When you step back and consider it, the situation is absurd. Tech titans dig bunkers and warn us the new intelligence they're training could lead to mass joblessness or human extinction while our Congress debates ballrooms and youth sports. But yes, Dario, your constant badgering about the number of jobs that could be lost by AI definitely isn't impacting the narrative at all." Unless you think this is just a left-right easy partisan divide issue. In the race for Wisconsin governor, Republican candidate Tom Tiffany has dropped an ad labeling his opponent David Crowley as data center David Crowley as though it were swearing on national TV or something. He posted on X a video clip of David Crowley saying there's an opportunity for us to really become AI and a data hub not only for the entire country but for the entire globe. But that's not the big news that captured everyone's attention yesterday. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is another person who's frequently mentioned in Democratic circles as a contender for the 2028 candidacy. Relative to the emerging wave of Democratic Socialists of America, Shapiro is moderate and a centrist. Just 14 months ago, Shapiro was proudly announcing plans for Amazon to invest 20 billion into Pennsylvania as part of a large AI infrastructure buildout. And so people took notice when yesterday he not only signed an executive order around AI data centers, but took an extraordinarily aggressive tone in publicizing that order. He tweeted, "Effective immediately, I'm putting AI data center developers on notice. If they want to even think about doing business in Pennsylvania, they must adhere to the strictest standards in the nation and get approval from the local community. Pennsylvanians deserve the right to say no to unwanted AI data center projects and block developers who are trying to bully their way into our neighborhoods without addressing neighbors' concerns." Journalist Scott McFarland wrote, "Governor Josh Shapiro used the following words to describe data center developers today. Predators, bullies, secretive." In another tweet, he said, "I will not allow Pennsylvanians to be bullied by greedy developers and bulldozed by the lawyers working for these big tech companies. I'm putting these developers on notice and letting them know that they will not bully Pennsylvanians, disregard our constitutional right to clean air and pure water and drive up our utility bills. I'm using the full weight of my executive authority to block the objectionable unwarranted projects and put the nation's strictest set of protections in place." Now, among the tech forward community of a place like X, there were plenty of people lamenting this turn from Governor Shapiro. RSI innovation policy analyst Adam Terrier writes, "What is this nonsense on data centers from Governor Josh Shapiro about being bullied by greedy developers? Nobody is being bullied into building data centers in their states or communities. They decide willingly if they are going to bring those investments and economic and job opportunities into their states and communities. In fact, just last August, while proudly announcing major new AI related investments in the state, including 20 billion from Amazon for major data center projects, Governor Shapiro boasted of how his administration was quote creating thousands of good-paying jobs, generating new revenue for our local communities, and making it easier for companies to build and grow in Pennsylvania. He said it was about quote ensuring the future of AI and innovation runs through the Commonwealth. So, was the governor being bullied by greedy developers then or instead just wisely welcoming much-needed investments into the future of his state? Sad to see the otherwise level-headed Governor Shapiro adopt such outlandish rhetoric. I thought he was the clear leader of the abundance Democrats, but this is just more of the old business bashing Dem playbook." Investor Shielona points out that Shapiro is getting pressure on the left and the right on this policy. He said he has a Republican opponent for governor who is anti-data center. She suggested a total pause in Pennsylvania and voters are pretty anti-data center right now both on the right and left. Adding something we'll come back to in a moment. Shielona also said from what I can tell his words are stronger than what the actual text of the executive order says. So he is playing to the polling. And while there are some moderate liberal and centrist groups lamenting this shift, this is absolutely an indicator of where the political winds are blowing. Just a few hours before recording, Axios released a piece called GOP Issues Stark Warning to AI Companies. In a memo that was obtained by Axios, the National Republican Senatorial Committee warned that toxic voter views of US data centers are threatening Republicans chances of holding one of their seats in Ohio, currently held by Senator John Husted. The memo says if he loses and data centers get the blame, politicians across the country will take notice and they will not go near the next one. This has become a sleeper issue for the entire election cycle. And making that point pretty crisply, if shockingly, is the fact that recent polls have consistently showed individual voters having more opposition to having an AI data center in their community than to having a nuclear power plant. And making the point that this is indeed at least partially about AI, that poll that I was mentioning actually asked about data centers twice. When asked if they would support a data center to power digital services like online search and video streaming, 35% said that they would support as opposed to 53% who said that they would oppose. Whereas when the question was a data center to power artificial intelligence, just 27% said that they would support and 62% said that they would oppose. That's compared to, by the way, 34% support and 57% opposition for a nuclear power plant. Historian Aaron Aster writes, "I've been trying to say this for months now. The argument about data centers is only partly about the environmental, energy, or economic effect of data centers. It's also about AI and whether people embrace it or not. A lot of people don't see AI as progress at all." So certainly a lot to be concerned about. But how then, outside of the need for an interesting and contrarian title, could I also suggest that things are simultaneously getting better? Well, first let's think about the critique of AI companies that they're behaving irresponsibly. With that background, OpenAI yesterday announced that they were actually pausing certain types of training voluntarily. Sam Altman tweeted, "We've paused some frontier RL training to ensure that we can meet the appropriate alignment, security, and monitoring standards for the new levels of capabilities in front of us. Model progress is now extremely rapid, and we always said we would take action if we felt that model capabilities were outstripping the pace of safety and alignment. We care very deeply about AI safety. We believe the entire field will have to coordinate on shared safety standards, but we'll act unilaterally in the meantime. We expect confidence in safety to increasingly set the pace of AI progress. We're optimistic about the alignment work we are doing, and we remain committed to making frontier capabilities widely available." OpenAI's lead scientist, Jacob Pachaki, added, "We temporarily slowed some frontier training to strengthen security and monitoring. Our largest plan, frontier RL, remains on hold, while smaller scale training and evaluations help us test safeguards and gather more evidence of alignment. I expect confidence in safety to increasingly set the pace of AI development. We urgently need tools for labs and countries to coordinate on this, which is why I signed pacing the frontier. In the meantime, we're taking practical steps ourselves, and we'll continue to share what we learn as our approach evolves." Now, as to specifics, OpenAI points to two developments that led them to this decision. The first is, of course, the OpenAI Hugging Face incident where an unreleased model escaped containment and actually hacked into Hugging Face going undetected for some amount of time. And also they write preliminary evidence that one of our upcoming models Astra may meet the critical cyber security capability threshold under their preparedness framework. Now during this two-week pause period one of the things that they're talking about doing is expanding their ability to monitor AI. They are significantly expanding how they are monitoring the training and testing process saying that they anticipate spending about 20% of inference compute on this sort of monitoring. Now, some jumped in to cynically suggest that this was just an excuse as the company runs into compute shortages, but all the indications that I can see suggest that this is indeed about an understanding that something has shifted not only in terms of capability, but in terms of public awareness. Wyatt Walls wrote, "I've been doing a lot of AI governance work for enterprise lately. Hugging Face incident has broken through to normies. Many non-technical people like execs, directors, and lawyers don't understand why some agents are much riskier than others. If your model is known for hacking, that means more agentic AI projects in the enterprise get held up over risk concerns and more likely people will choose a different quote unquote safer model which is bad for your enterprise business. Your AI escaping a sandbox is not a selling point with CIOs and IT security." Now in terms of how this will impact all of us, Sam Altman clarified that the company quote still expects to ship great new models soon and that this change quote impacts further out releases. Prince added, "OpenAI has been testing an internal model that has never been publicly released since at least early May. In contrast, Astra's potential designation as critical for cyber was announced less than 2 weeks ago, which implies that Astra has been subject to testing accounting for the two-week pause in July and August. This would seem to suggest that these two models are different models. In line with this theory, Sam Altman's post below promises that great new models will be shipped soon. This is in contrast to Astro, which would be a further out release. Fingers crossed." Now, in the context of our conversation about the potential for a better discourse about AI's risks, I think Arena's Peter Gossip makes a good point when he writes, "This is why the original pause AI for 6 months never made sense. Just pausing arbitrarily when 20 people will have 20 opinions on what the problems are is completely pointless. Now, everyone is clear what the issue is. Pause and solve it. Much more productive." Fascinatingly, one of the arch accelerationist figures of the accelerationist movement, Beth Jazos, retweeted Greg Brockman's announcement about this pause and said, "I've got mixed feelings about this. I do agree all cyber systems need to be hardened given the recent jump in capabilities. I don't like this pausing precedent this sets. At the same time, companies will find the right balance of risk and reward as long as competition is healthy." Now, to give you a sense of just how nuanced that is coming from Beth specifically, another tweet from around the same time period was him resharing Governor Josh Shapiro's announcement adding the note, "Dels are traitors serving the interests of China." But let's come back to Shapiro's actual announcement. Former Obama and Biden appointee posted, "This is one where it is worth reading beyond the headline. While it restricts data center development, the restrictions themselves make a lot of sense. This is way better than the nonsolution of a moratorium." The Philadelphia Inquirer shared some of the details of the executive order, including requiring data center projects to sign legally binding agreements to certain transparency and environmental requirements in grid, such as water conservation standards and early and transparent public notification of proposed projects ahead of key local approvals. Prohibiting any state agency from signing a non-disclosure agreement related to a data center project. Instructing the Department of Environmental Protection to publish a publicly accessible map of current permitting information for all proposed data center projects, mandating that the projects bring their own electricity generation and pay all costs associated with increased energy usage, and requiring a community benefit agreement that includes promises to hire and train local employees and developer investments in schools or infrastructure. Now, I don't want to be dismissive of the devil in the details. Even these provisions could absolutely have been written in a way that it is an effective ban, even if it pretends not to be. However, just from a principal standpoint, anyone who's heard me rant about what I think data center builders should be providing to the community will have heard some version of basically all of these things coming from my mouth at various points. Mandating that the projects bring their own electricity generation and pay all costs associated with increased energy usage. That's just the Trump pledge that he had everyone agreed to earlier this year. Shouldn't really be anything controversial about that. The community benefit agreement, including promises to hire and train local employees, as well as investments in schools and infrastructure. This is what you're starting to see from companies like Meta who are going hard on this point. When it comes to environmental standards and transparency around them, one of the problematic memes for data centers is factually inaccurate arguments about their environmental impact. So, while this is the area where I believe has the most room to turn into effective bans depending on how the rules are written, nothing could be better for combating those memes than actually meeting strict requirements imposed by local government. And lastly, we get to what I think is one of the most important pieces of this, the prohibition against NDAs. In Jasmine Sun's recent reporting about data centers, one of the things that came out most strongly was not just blanket opposition to AI, but a feeling that people didn't have agency in their own lives as the world changed around them. NDAs become a totem and living embodiment of that lack of agency and control. They are a tool for denying people access to the information they need to make up their minds about something that is going to affect them. I don't care if it makes it harder to do business now. The only way to start building trust back is to have all of these conversations and dealings happen out in the open with full transparency. So, am I happy that Governor Shapiro is using these populist trope words like bully and greedy? No, I am not. Not only because of a disappointment in Shapiro, who I don't really have feelings about one way or another, but more because he's good at being a politician and it reflects the signals that he's getting. But do I think that there is more room for positive progress in the context of even a very strict EO like this one as opposed to a blanket moratorium? Absolutely, without question. I will take any set of rules that can be debated and interacted with 100 times out of 100 out of a blanket ban. My personal opinion is that moratoriums are an increasingly popular political tool because of how blunt an instrument they are. If people's fears come back to in some way or another a fear of change or a feeling of a lack of control of change, there is no more direct action than saying that change isn't allowed to happen, which is what a moratorium does. But as emotionally satisfying as that might be for people who are feeling the challenge of change, that does not make it a good policy. I don't want to be overly optimistic here. And unfortunately, I think the Jason Kelce ad says more about where the average person is than the nuance between a moratorium and what Josh Shapiro gave us. But practically speaking, in Shapiro's non-moratorium executive order, I see the thin thread of an opportunity. And you better believe I'm going to grab it. For now, that's going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Appreciate you listening or watching as always, and until next time, peace.

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