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Dario Amodei

CEO and Co-Founder, Anthropic

Search every verified Dario Amodei interview, podcast appearance, and on-the-record quote — each transcript cross-checked by AI and human review to confirm speaker identity. Dario Amodei, CEO and co-founder of Anthropic, has given a series of interviews in which he discussed the rapid pace of AI development and its potential risks. He stated that AI misalignment will "definitely" cause catastrophic failures, including autonomous agents potentially targeting critical infrastructure, and predicted that mass disruption in fields such as law, finance, consulting, and coding will occur in "low single-digit numbers of years" rather than decades. Amodei described the feeling of the industry's acceleration as akin to "relativistic speed," and said that he does not believe a global AI pause is possible, comparing the race to nuclear arms competition. He also said he would not be surprised if Anthropic's models reach ASL 3 (a high capability threshold) in 2025, and that he anticipates a combination of "very fast GDP growth and high unemployment or at least underemployment." Amodei also discussed his departure from OpenAI, saying he left because he felt he could not trust the leadership, citing "disturbing patterns of behavior, dishonesty." He has been outspoken in favor of export controls on chips to China, stating that it would be "really bad for America" for China to be ahead in AI capabilities. He also said that democracies should use AI "in every way except the ways that undermine our own values," citing red lines of mass surveillance and fully autonomous weapons. Amodei acknowledged that Anthropic is imperfect and makes mistakes, but said the hypothesis most consistent with the company's history is that it is "genuinely trying to do the right thing."

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