This is your... Oh my god. Sorry. Oh, you scared me. I was like, was that that loud? Okay, now we're going live.
Live on Marquez. Wait, we're not live, right? Yeah. You want me to count down? Well, we're already live.
Yeah. No, no, no. But they can't see you yet. Oh, we still have the technical difficulties. Can they hear us? So, let me know when we're live.
I see you live on the thing right now. Okay. Yeah, we're live. Yeah, we're live. Okay. Like, okay, great. Yo, welcome to this super on time, super impromptu, but definitely live. You obviously can tell it's really live. Waveform episode number 300.
Like the movie. It's good to be here. Guys, why are we late?
Yeah. Well, going live is always an adventure and you guys were setting up OBS and wanted to plug it into this channel and we were testing on another channel and we went live in OBS and it wasn't live here and we'd have to connect the dots. Now it's all good.
We were going live to Adam's channel, our test channel. Yeah. For a little bit there it was happening. Oh. That's funny. But we're here.
We're here. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez.
So, we had a lot of fun at the last live thing that we did, which is South by Southwest, but that was on stage for like technically a closed event where you had to like pay to have tickets to South by and then go to our thing. This we just wanted to have fun and do an episode for everyone and episode 300 was a good opportunity to do that because we've come a long way. What do we want to do?
We have chat going pretty crazy right now. We can talk to them. I want to tell you a story really quickly.
You can wait before you do that. Okay. Start asking questions in the chat, please. Most of this episode will be us answering them. We have people grabbing questions from here. Dave is gonna tell a story. Then we're gonna get a little sappy about the podcast and then we'll answer questions.
That's nice. Cool. Okay, last night I had a dream. Okay, I want to tell you guys about my dream. Okay, so this is right before I woke up, by the way, so I still remember the whole thing. Incredible. Okay, I was rollerblading to work. I don't know why. I don't know how to rollerblade.
I think that we were like in another city. I was rollerblading. It was super fun. I was like, 'This is so sick.'
right? Okay. So, I get to the office and we're in this other room, but you guys were like, 'Okay, in order to do this live podcast, we only own one camera, so we have to...' We had this small round table that was like this big. It was not big. And we're all kind of crowded around it with this big wide-angle lens. And we're like, 'Okay, guys, we're doing the live podcast.' And then we had like sundaes, you know, like ice cream sundaes. And they had banana splits in them. And Marquez tried to convince me that the way that you make chocolate like hard on the top of ice cream is by putting like melting butter and pouring it on it. And I was like, 'That's not how that works.' And he was like, 'Yes, it is.' And then we fought about it for like a while. And then I woke up.
Your brain does not have very much faith in me. That is... you were triggered by the conversation the other day about whether it was read or read receipts.
Yeah, we did have a whole test stream where then we went into this 40-minute conversation about read receipts versus red receipts. By the way, I put out a poll on Twitter and Threads. Is it read receipts or red receipts?
Wait, you mean you put it out on Twitter and Threads?
Well, I put receipts... Threads said red receipts won the poll, but on Twitter, read receipts won the poll.
Yeah, but how much did it win by on Threads?
So, it won by a higher percentage on Threads, but less votes were cast on Threads. So, I had to do the math because there was 50,000 more votes on Twitter, even though it won by a smaller percentage. And overall total between all of the votes, I think read receipts slightly edged out... no, red receipts slightly edged out read receipts, which was a bummer because that's incorrect.
But thank you. Anyway, that happened. Chat is going crazy. I see a lot of you guys saying the volume's low, so I think we're going to try to bump that up a little bit. Is it live or pre-recorded? It's live. Threads, thank you. Shout out to everyone who is actually doing your dishes. This is super new, but David, why do you think the RX1R that just got released is $5,000?
Shout out to Sony. Yeah. And tariffs. All right. So, small retrospective, then we'll go all chat because we wanted to just sort of recap how we got here to episode 300.
So, Waveform started as just Andrew and I and just audio.
And that was 2019, August 2019 when we first started. And the idea of the podcast was pretty... it's kind of the same as it is now, which was we have a lot of these conversations about tech that don't make it to videos or are kind of like the run-up that turns into videos, etc. And we just want to capture those because they're actually really interesting conversations. Maybe people will enjoy.
And sometimes it's like the conversation we're having for the first time. So you can almost see all our brains working on like how this could... There have been conversations on the podcast that we've turned into videos. Yep. Because we've had a good enough conversation about it.
Yeah. Unfinished thoughts. Yeah. And getting into the weeds on stuff. It soon turned into a weekly podcast and we had two years of basically getting up to weekly by January 2021.
And then Adam joined as a permanent producer of the Waveform podcast. Shout out to Adam.
Adam is also currently live camera switching right now. So he is locked in.
But that was Adam's joining. David joined as a guest host for the first time ever also in 2021.
And actually, this is the beginning of trivia.
So, it was episode 54. Do you remember this?
I remember doing the trivia thing.
There was like a trivia segment of us and he was the host of the trivia segment. I think it was before video, but that kind of was technically the first trivia we've ever done on the podcast.
When we had the second table, the weird table in here.
That's also the first time we did a long-form episode, which is when you told us the story essentially of how Boosted Boards rose and fell. And we've done some many more really interesting long-form storytelling type episodes since then, which is awesome.
Looking here, between episode 45 and 62, a lot of stuff happened. We leveled up. We went... we decided it would be a real thing basically.
Because like that was episode 59 for Rise and Fall of Boosted and then episode 62 is our first video podcast.
So then you know we fast forward a little bit. Tim starts making a sort of a Timnail thumb... wow... template.
We can't redo that. Thumbnail template. Tim... a Timnail. We have Timnails now. And we also started... we added Ellis as a full-time producer. His first episode is 2022 in May. That was episode 116.
Can I tell a funny story from that real quick? Yeah. Because when you get hired here, there's like a short period where you're not on camera. You're sort of like finding your way and like you're just sort of, you know, get used to the vibe before you're like... And there was no producer cam at this point. So, it wasn't like I was going to be on camera. But on my first Waveform episode before I had any idea what was going on, like still learning the ropes, I'm like sitting back here in the corner and like you turn around Marquez and you just go, 'Ellis, what do you think about that?' And I was just like, what am I supposed to do? I don't exist. I don't exist.
No pressure. Yeah, this is a pretty classic intro. But then yeah, by the time we get to 2023, David is a full-time permanent host. We are doing videos. We are cooking on YouTube.
Yeah. And it's been growing. It's for like permanent full-time because you were on plenty of episodes before then. You hosted so many. So this morning I asked ChatGPT how many episodes did David host before 2023 and it said 297.
Considering there are 300 total episodes.
It has no clue. Yeah, it's funny. But long story short, we're halfway through 2025. We're closing in on six years of this being a podcast. 300 episodes. Lots of thoughts, lots of dishes washed, lots of trivia questions answered. I would love to know the stats on how many dishes have been washed.
I think about that podcast.
Spotify Wrapped. That would be an awesome section of Spotify.
You washed 800 plates while listening to Waveform.
But yeah, thank you for subscribing, of course, and for listening and for watching and for being a part of Waveform. Now I'm locked in on chat. I'm just watching chat now. I want to know what you guys want to know.
Chat, are we good? Um, I think we should just read from questions.
Yeah. Yeah. I've just seen a lot of 'nice shirt, David.' So...
Oh, thank you. This is my party shirt for the live episode.
Tried to make it colorful. Here's a random one. Ferista, will Fairphone 6 get a full review? Um, maybe. Oh, this is perfect. We would normally not keep talking through the... I don't know if you guys can hear the like lawn mower or the air rake. What do you call it? Air rake or lawn mower?
I grew up on air rake and everyone else says leaf blower, but I grew up on air rake.
I've never even heard of that. That sounds like... I thought that was a Twitch streamer.
Air is a YouTuber and air rake sounds like what they would call it in the 50s to like wow consumers so much because as a kid I was like, yeah, air rake, that makes perfect sense. It's... what do you call the other one for like edges and...
Oh, string. Yeah, weed whacker, weed whacker. Oh, the weed whacker. Yeah, weed whacker is more on point. But yeah, we normally...
This is our first debate of the live.
We would normally stop recording when that makes noise, but it's live, so...
I normally would have cut that whole section, but you know, here we are.
Exactly. Well, Fairphone 6, full review. I don't know.
David says I should. David has one.
Yeah, maybe that's a good idea. Let me know if you think we should.
I need you to experience the switch.
True. We've been talking about this Fairphone 6 dumb phone switch for like three episodes now.
All right. Let's see. How old were you guys 300 episodes ago?
I was six years younger. 25.
And I was tweeting all the time.
Actually, yeah. What were you... How old were you six years ago when you tweeted that joke?
Six years ago. I was already doing Waveform for six years. I don't know what you're talking about.
I was... that was six years ago. So I would have been 21 years old.
Never met Marques Brownley.
I think I was 27 six years ago.
I'm old. Ellis, you know what time?
You just learned how old Adam is. Wait, what?
Math. Adam never gives away secrets about himself. So I've known Adam for like 11 years and I still know nothing about him.
And believe me, I ask. I ask.
What's behind the beard, Adam?
A really baby face. Sadness.
4,000 people watching right now.
Hey, that's what I said. Isn't that what I told you?
You actually said like 4,300.
I guessed 325. So, I'm happy. All right. What else are people asking?
Let's see. Watch 8 Classic review. I did just get the Watch 8 Classic, so that's also a candidate for review. And I'm doing a video on a bunch of other things related to it. So, that might be an option.
Yeah, I saw Mr. Mobile saying like it is the most beautiful smartwatch he's like ever worn. And why are there pill-shaped buttons in like a circular watch and there's so many software decisions that feel pretty rough about it. Yeah.
I'm surprised that he said it's the most beautiful watch because he's like always been in on the nautical version of the Garmin, the Captain, the Mark. It is a really nice looking watch. I think it's one of the nicest looking ones if it didn't have two days of battery life.
It's almost as nice looking as you. Danny says, 'Is Notion still king?'
Yeah. King meaning it's our king. We use it here. But, you know, there's lots of options that we could also use. We just... we're so built into Notion now that we're kind of just... it is our king. Yeah.
Yeah. Boring answer. Um, best emoji is...
This is a good question. Objective. You guys already know.
Super fun times. Oh, what is it? The HDR one that Ellis made clearly.
No, no, I didn't make it. I found it.
Let's do best like not default, but you know, like common emoji... comment emojis.
No, no stickers because my custom emoji stickers go crazy.
Wait, what is comment? I'm going with the common...
Melting face is amazing. That's my...
Melting face. It's not even hot in here yet, but I'm going to use an emoji soon.
I like upside down face. That just feels like a... like I don't... Why is this happening? Yeah. I'm going to look at my emoji keyboard and see what I've been using recently. Do you have one, Ellis or Adam?
Mine is definitely the salute. I use that one all the time.
Salute. Melty face are both really good. Um, I used the Joker recently.
The Joker emoji? The Joker card?
Oh, card. Oh, I didn't even know that was a thing.
You're saying that's best emoji.
Oh, you know what's really good? The Easter Island head.
That's actually... I love that one.
So, this is not a common emoji, but I recently obtained a sticker that's the like looking down shame emoji while putting on the clown mask emoji.
Yeah, combo emojis are in with AI. Tiny Media says, 'Why do you guys have different microphones?'
Well, we might have answered this before. Marquez, why do we have different microphones?
Yeah. So, you might notice that I'm the only one with a different microphone. There's a Shure SM7B over there. There's a Shure SM7B over there.
There's a Shure SM7B over there.
True. And then there's an Electrovoice RE27.
It's because Marquez and I sound too similar. So, if we had the same mic, you would never know that we were not the same person.
No, no, it's an RE27 ND. It's the broadcast variant of the 27. It's a little bit brighter. It still has the same proximity effect caging. But...
I don't want to argue with Ellis, but I thought the RE27 was the broadcast version of the RE20.
Yeah. No, no, you're so right. You know, I do have a degree in this, but like argue all you want, you know, like whatever.
Wait, am I right or wrong?
No, it says RE27 ND on it.
RE27 on it, but I got it just because of the brightness and how it sounds better with my voice. And then I just got used to it and now my voice sounds muddy. Wait, can I switch to your mic for a second?
No, Andrew, you are right. I'm totally wrong.
See how much muddier it sounds. Doesn't that sound dull? And we...
So, you gave us the muddy mics?
No, just... I simply got used to it. But I think...
I think you guys sound great on it. But I wonder if you use this mic if it would sound bad also because it's different.
You'll just never sound as great as he does.
This is just good for my voice. I've used your mic before when you're gone and I will use it after you're gone. Damn.
You decide. It does sound weird on my voice for sure.
Who's doing the camera cuts? Bumble. That would be Adam. Bumble. He's doing the camera cuts live as we talk.
I'm trying my best. So, give me some grace, please.
Which is... it's gone really well. Lritic, what headphones do y'all daily drive? Interesting question.
Oh, I have two answers actually.
Yeah, we'll start it. Powerbeats Pro for working out and then at the moment Sony WH-1000XM6 for traveling and flights and everything else.
Wait, Powerbeats Pro, the OGs.
The current... sorry, the new Powerbeats Pro 2 while I work out. The Sony WH-1000XM6 when I'm traveling, but also while editing, what is on my desk? It's the open-back Sennheiser HD 650s on my desk. That's what I edit with. So, those are the three headphones that I use. That's a lot.
There's a lot of headphones. Yeah, I've been using the Bose QuietComfort Ultra Earbuds because they have best noise cancellation by far.
Sony's just... Oh, for buds.
Sony's are also incredible.
Fair enough. Okay, Ellis. Ellis, tell me which ones are better.
They're not. They're not even close.
The AirPods are not even close.
Mathematically, they're really... No, they're not. They're not. They're not. They are.
I don't have a degree in this and they're not.
It's the kind of thing where like...
Oh my gosh. They're like the shape of your ear canals. They're better. But I promise.
No. No. Listen, they sound really good.
I think the AirPods Pro 2 are the best sounding headphones I have.
But the noise cancellation is not even close to the...
You might have a bad fit.
Yeah. Then you have a bad fit.
They are really, really bad. I have the Lightning ones. Are they different?
No. No. You're using the wrong ear tips. That means...
Yeah. Wait. Are you talking about the wireless noise cancelling silicon tip AirPods?
The ones widely regarded as best in class, but they're not as good noise cancellation.
They are... they're not... I'm going to look this up right now.
You should use... you should mess with the tip size just to see if it gives you... There's different tips.
They come with a bunch of tips and you probably just kept the medium ones that are on it or whatever.
All my really ear wax in it, too. Yeah. Anyway,
I use the Beats Fit Pro for working out and the Sonos Ace for mowing the lawn and...
Yeah, I do like them. They're comfy.
For mowing the lawn and flying.
Yeah. I mean, it's the over-ear difference.
Over-ear. Needed to be quieter. Lots of white noise.
Yeah. Okay. All right. This is from SoundGuys, Adam's old employer. Okay.
Oh. Oh. It's like a comparison article between the two and they use a lot of scientific data that Adam used to spend a lot of hours.
Oh, someone said, 'Is that good?' Someone just... Well, this isn't even a question. Suresh Rajan said, 'Haven't watched Jurassic Park, but have watched Jurassic World.' Come on, Marquez. And I'm going to watch the new one. I'm going to watch the new one, too. The new Jurassic World coming out.
I'll watch it eventually. I'll watch it eventually. It's so easy to watch it that I don't feel rushed.
You mean the original one?
Yeah, I've seen parts of it.
It's probably streaming on Hulu or Tubi.
I unironically used Tubi the other day. I'm not even kidding. It's real. It's still real.
I was trying to make one up in my head. Is it on Tubi or not Tubi?
They should only do Shakespeare.
I have someone asking what the best budget keyboard is right now. And my...
Yeah. Yeah. There's plenty out on Amazon like Hippotech will tell you, but the Hib June R1 I think or just the Hibby June, you still have to build it and buy all the switches and everything, but it's the most unique cheapest keyboard. And out of all the nice ones that I have, it's the one I still use every day. So that's my...
Sorry, how much was that one? Did you mention it already? I don't...
It probably... when you build everything if you do it very budget focused like 200 bucks.
Unfortunately budget in this world.
There's some good cheaper... Magic Keyboard. That's what I was going to say. I was definitely going to be like if you're on a budget just... Mariah says do not watch Jurassic Park. It sucks.
She... Oh, she saw it already.
That sounds like it's right up my alley.
I wonder if she saw it in 4DX though.
Because... Yeah. Jurassic World. No, I think she wanted to watch the F1 movie in 4DX. I don't...
I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I don't think I can possibly dislike a movie with good dinosaur graphics.
With good dinosaur graphics?
I think if the CG is really good and the dinosaurs are very realistic, I'll enjoy it no matter what.
Why don't we just bring them back?
Well, that's like a whole plot.
We already brought the wolves back. The direwolves.
That was like a whole bad thing that happened in the movie.
Yeah, but like I don't know.
It went pretty poorly. We have like tanks and stuff.
I don't think we should be that worried about dinosaurs.
Correction, Mariah just messaged me personally and said she did see it in 4D. So...
I think she's driving home from vacation right now.
Wait, someone just asked, 'What about the new Sony phone review?' Is there a new Sony phone that I should know about that's actually...
Yeah, it just came out and will actually come to market in 7 months.
Yeah. Several follow-up questions to that. One, what is it and is it actually out or is it not coming out for 6 months? And two, is it actually good? Do you care about my opinion or are you actually just trolling? You might...
I would love to do like an actual Sony review, but again, it's just like they announce it and then it comes out like seven months later and it's just kind of confusing.
I give them a shot every time. Every time I see them in my inbox, I go, 'Oh, a new Sony phone.' And then like literally four out of the last five times I've done a Sony flagship phone review, it just... it starts off with some promise and they have some interesting things and then it goes downhill of like, wait, it's how expensive and they have what as their primary features and it just kind of falls apart. So I'm rooting for them but they haven't given me much hope lately.
Somebody asked how did you come up with the name Waveform? Do you remember this?
Ooh, the name Waveform. I spoke to you guys in a dream.
Yeah. Okay. So we... Yeah. Do you remember exactly?
Yeah. Yeah. We were thinking of a lot of things that were audio puns in some way. Yeah. And we actually decided with WVFRM because it kind of sounds like a radio station and also if we at that point... WVFRM MKBHD fit on top of each other as the same amount of letters. Then we started with Studio 71 and they were like podcast searching is terrible. If you don't... if you're saying Waveform out loud, you should name it Waveform spelled out loud. So that's why you might see WVFRM sometimes and Waveform most of the time because podcast discoverability is terrible.
Also, we did that mistake with our channels when we were making the video channels. It's like the Waveform podcast and then the WVFRM clips and it haunts me every day.
Alex the dev, still using Arc?
I have a lot to say about this. All right. Are you still using Arc?
I am not. I am using a mixture of Chrome and Zen Browser now.
A mixture. Interesting. And are you using Arc?
You never used Arc. Are you still using Arc?
That's a complicated question.
Okay. I am full-time still using Arc. Yeah, that's my answer.
I am primarily still using Arc. I have been testing all of these new browsers that are coming out because there's like all these new... I want to know how you choose because like I just... I was on... this is maybe spoiling something, but I'm going to do it anyway. I was just hanging out with someone, I won't say who, who has a lot of cars and I was like how do you choose which car to drive and I have the same question about you. You have multiple browsers.
Why Zen versus Chrome? Like why... what makes you open a certain browser versus the other one?
It's the same reason I told you about my cars when we were hanging out.
So you just wake up feeling 'I feel like Zen today'?
Yeah. No. So the way I split it up is work I use in Chrome because I need all that to work.
And then when I'm doing personal things I'll use Zen Browser.
Okay. So it's kind of location based too, sort of.
I mean, when I'm at work, I have one browser open. Like personal, I'll just have minimized. So, if I ever need to like search something or like email someone, but then work in Chrome, I have working.
I'm sort of just like keeping tabs on all of them because I'm trying to see if this AI assistant future that everyone keeps promising actually matters at all or if it's just going to be like a metaverse kind of fad. So, I got access to Comet, which is the new Perplexity browser.
How do you like it? Should we care?
It is just Dia. It's not... They're like exactly the same.
But is the search better? That's what I want to know.
Well, it's not really search. It's like it just talks to you. I don't know. It's... I don't... I might be able to be convinced in the future, but right now it feels like if I'm just talking to my browser, I could just... It would be better if I had...
You just had a tab with ChatGPT open or something?
No, just like... or Gemini rather.
What Perplexity wants you to do with Comet is they want you to just... like it basically has a Google search tab in the center of the page and instead of actually going to websites... like they do have an assistant like Dia does on the side when you're actually on web pages, but their preferred way of interacting with the browser is just to talk to Comet and it will tell you answers with like little mini sources, but they prefer that you like don't even go to web pages.
Is sort of the... Is all AI browsers just like the 'trust me bro'? Just like, 'No, no, no. Don't look. Stay here. Everything I'm saying is right.'
The people who are like really into it seem to be really into it, but I don't really get it yet. And maybe I will at some point and maybe I'm just... don't, you know, but I don't know. But besides that, I find myself on Arc all the time because I keep trying to... like the best feature of Arc, which is so stupid that it's so useful, is just being able to hide the sidebar and then swipe your mouse over and it pops out. That's like... that's all I want. It's all I want.
Add it to Dia, please. Also, pin tabs and stuff like that. And Dia still doesn't have that. So...
Can I address a question real quick?
Fernando Loza says, 'Ellis, what is your battery percentage?' So, I took my phone off the charger at about 8 a.m. this morning. So, that would... that's like three and a half hours ago.
Anyone want to take a guess? 60%. Andrew?
48. Adam wins. I am at 43% battery life right now.
Is that still a 12 mini or is that 13 mini?
Is it 12 mini? And to all the people asking what phone I'm going to get next. Um, I'm holding out till September 2027 to hopefully go straight from 12 mini to folding iPhone.
Something tells me this phone is going to explode before that.
Anol Batia says, 'Is 26 thoughts so far?' I've been testing it. Oh, stay tuned. I...
Okay, wait. If this beta had come out in the winter, David, you would feel completely differently because you would have a hand warmer wherever you go.
That's true, dude. The amount of bugs that I've seen recently. Oh my god. Do you have the YouTube bug where... or any video playback bug? It's in YouTube and also Instagram reels and stuff where it like you click on it and then the screen goes black but the audio...
Still plays and you have to like back out and go back in multiple times. This morning my alarm didn't—my alarm went off, made no sound.
It was—it was lighting up and doing the thing. No sound.
A couple specific bugs. One of them is the Eight Sleep app. When the bed thing is waking me up and I open the Eight app to dismiss it, that is when it crashes. So I can—I can open the Eight Sleep app any other time and it's fine.
But I have to snooze it by hitting the sensor on the bed and then the Eight Sleep app will open without crashing. It's very strange. Yeah.
Uh, the other one is my keyboard no longer shows the letters above them when I'm typing, which is annoying.
Oh, yeah. It's just those are—like when you type it and it goes up. It goes—when you—yeah. When the little letter shows up above your finger, they don't show up.
Yeah, it's pretty useful when they show up.
Marquez, so you're on the beta on your iPhone. Are you also on the beta on your Android phone?
Uh, on my Pixel I have the latest Android 16 beta.
And is that the one you're dailying?
Okay. I was going to say, a little too buggy to daily. Having two daily drivers, both from the development beta, is crazy.
I can't—yeah, I can't daily beta stuff. And even with macOS, 'cause I use Final Cut, I don't put the latest OS on my computer until the first one update because Final Cut will absolutely have too many bugs to use until they update it.
Even when it's not on like a development beta, Final Cut is like hit or miss. Yeah, you never know.
Yeah. Uh, someone said, 'How much AI do you use in your daily life?' Um, I like—outside of work—Gemini for like fun. I don't really trust it because it still kind of lies a lot. So, I use like Gemini Live. Gemini Live can be helpful and even if it's wrong, it leads me in the right direction. So, you know, it's kind of fun to like show it things, but sometimes it's useless. Uh, that's pretty much what I do. And I don't—I don't use it that frequently either. It's like every few days.
Yeah. I use Gemini probably once or twice a day.
Okay. I don't use it at all. It's not even like necessarily—I just haven't incorporated or found one that I specifically like. So, I don't pay for any of them and therefore I don't. The most AI I see during a day is scrolling past the Google AI overview so I can look at actual links and figure out the real answer.
Fair enough. Also, uh, Big Blue asks, 'Andrew, are you still using Google Tasks?'
Wait, can I see? He's deep in. Whoa.
Can I have a question because I can now see how many tasks I've completed. You are. I don't like that feature.
I don't really understand the count. I also don't like it.
You don't like how many you've completed?
Yeah, it's just always there. It's persistent forever. I've been using this app for 12 years. And I guess I'm always using it in the widget, so I don't always see it unless I'm in it. But yeah.
Does that show—so that doesn't show re—
Oh, no. It does show reoccurring ones, right? I'm almost at 500 completed tasks.
Whoa. Someone says who is the—someone says who is the tallest in the room and I have to—okay, look, I'm not insecure. First off, my—I'm not insecure, but everyone in this room is taller than me and I'm like slightly taller than average height. I'm 5'10" and a half and the US average male height is 5'9".
This is a pretty tall room.
It's annoying.
I've completed 15,767 tasks since I started.
Jeez. I'm not insecure allegedly.
Um, so I don't—I think Marquez is the tallest in the room right now. Is he taller than us?
No. No. Yeah, I think pretty close because Andrew, I think you and I are like about the same height.
Yeah, Marquez probably has like an inch on, but Alex probably has an inch on Marquez.
Alex is the tallest one. I think it's really funny because I like—as a universal reaction to meeting Marquez, they're like, 'He's so much taller than—'
That is the number one most common comment that I get in real life is you're taller than I expected.
When we go to CES, I used to be able to like find you easily 'cause I could see over the majority of the floor and just find Marquez. But at the same time, that means everybody always sees where Marquez is on the floor.
This is true. Yeah. Someone told me once after meeting me and being like, 'Wow, you're a lot taller than I thought.' They were like, 'You know, on the podcast, you give really short guy energy.'
Interesting. And what does that mean?
Yeah. What? Hey, buddy, watch it.
Wow. As a true said, I've completed 29,989 tasks on Todoist. That's serious.
Okay. Wait, I have a question about this now that we're down to—Isn't one of your tasks drive to work every day?
No, it's a calendar event. It's a calendar event. Totally different.
Okay. My question is you guys don't clear that out. You just leave it there.
I—Every time I complete a task, I hate seeing it on the bottom. I always go in and like remove it.
I have to go into the settings to look at my account to see how many I'd completed.
Oh, okay. So, it keeps them forever.
Uh, yeah, it's got this organization shows you which day of the week you're most productive and like how many times you missed.
Oh, TickTick. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. I was—I was thinking Google Tasks. I was like, where is that?
Oh, no, no, no, no. Tasks is a—is a sort of baseline functionality.
Somebody said thoughts on Elmo. Did you see what happened to Elmo yesterday?
Wait, what? You didn't say that. You should—
Elmo got—Elmo got hacked yesterday. Probably not the best. He said some bad things.
That's not what I thought. I was just going to say goat. That's—I love Elmo. But yeah, he—his Twitter guy.
Okay. I did not see that. I was like, um, F1 movie was great. Okay, people. Oh, the studio. The studio saying F1 movie was great.
Have other people seen the F1 movie?
No. No. My friend texted me on Sunday of Silverstone and said, 'Did you see F1?' I was like, 'Yeah, that was such a sick race. One of the best ones I've seen.' He's like, 'No, the movie.' And I was like, 'I don't want to talk about that right now. Dang. I've not seen it yet. I may watch it soon.'
Gizmo Sauce wants to know what's everyone's favorite cheese.
I knew Ellis was gonna find this question. So, for those that don't know, we've—there's been many a cheese related argument in the studio about like blue cheese's efficacy, about whether stinky cheese is good, period, about whether certain cheeses belong on burgers. This is like a pretty common lunchtime argument for us.
I think the last one was what is your Mount Rushmore of cheese?
Yeah. Yeah, it was actually—that was a long conversation. Um, Mount Rushmore. That's four, right?
No, wait. The Mount Rushmore conversation was about nuts. It was what was about—was it pine nuts up there? Pine nuts are definitely up there. But—
Pine nuts on pizza. Crazy take.
What? Dude. Whoa. Hear me out.
Wait, Marquez, you don't like pine nuts.
Olive oil, pine nuts, pizza.
Hey, everybody. This guy doesn't like pesto.
Okay. Yeah, pesto, too. Pesto with pine nuts is like—
How about—Well, I was going to do cheese.
Cheese. Are you doing Rushmore or just favorite cheese?
I guess Rushmore is a lot. Rushmore is a lot of—Rushmore. And you have to compare each cheese to one of the presidents. I think I'm going just basic mozzarella is—it has to be on your Mount Rushmore. If it's not, I don't know what your list is.
Low moisture or high moisture?
High moisture as hell. Throw it on a sandwich. It's—it's versatile. You can take it down, put it on a, you know, chicken parm or whatever. I like just mozzarella is a solid, but parm is parmesan. Yeah, but you put mozzarella on it, too. Is with several types of cheese. Maybe I'm a bit weird with the mozzarella and parmesan. And that's what it's—if they can do four cheese mixes. Oh, Pepper Jack. Wow, great point. Okay, I'm changing my—I love pepper jack. Pepper jack and—and mozzarella are a 1A and 1B for me.
Okay, it's not necessarily a good mix. That's a fair take. I just like that it has holes.
Yeah, I like provolone. I want to just get past—provolone is fire. Provolone, I think, is my top, but it's really hard to not put American in. Everyone's going to hate on American, but the primo melty cheese. Yeah, the primo melty cheese. Also the American variants like Cooper Sharp. That's a man's cheese right there.
Marquez, if you like mozzarella on your parm, you know, pasta baked stuff, let me recommend fontina for you.
I could see you really, really enjoying a big slice of fontina.
He loves feta and it's pretty cool.
I do not like crumbly cheeses at all.
Yeah, it's because the Fetaverse. That's why—that's tough for me because the Fetaverse is pretty cool, but feta is bad. Uh, blue cheese is trash. What is—What is feta rated for you?
Brie can just—I just have—if it never existed, I'd be totally fine.
Am I federating? You're making a weird pun right now. I don't know what's happening.
