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Scott Kupor
Director; formerly Managing Partner, Andreessen Horowitz, U.S. Office of Personnel Management

OPM’s Kupor defends Schedule Policy/Career, as finalization nears

📅 Mar 13, 2026 Federal News Network 9 MIN 113 VIEWS 9 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
After a year of workforce overhauls, the Trump administration is continuing to charge forward with major changes for federal employees. The new Schedule "Policy-slash-Career" classification is on the brink of becoming reality. Revisions to the performance management system will soon take shape. Many of these looming changes come directly from the Office of Personnel Management. At a Federal News Network event last week, reporter Drew Friedman sat down with OPM Director Scott Kupor to hear his take on some of these new policies. Here's an excerpt of that conversation. See Privacy Policy at ht...

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  1. 3:30... a couple days away from the executive order and this actually really taking effect from that point on, what is OPM's role going to be in guiding agencies, and what are the first signs that you're going to see this change start to take?
  2. 4:45How would you respond to some of the critiques that have come up here?
  3. 7:03Can you talk about the problems that OPM or the Trump administration sees in the current system and how you are trying to address those?
Narrator 0:00 ↗
After a year of workforce overhauls, the Trump administration is continuing to charge forward with major changes for federal employees. The new Schedule Policy/Career classification is on the brink of becoming a reality. Revisions to the performance management system will soon take shape. Many of these looming changes come directly from the Office of Personnel Management. At a Federal News Network event last week, reporter Drew Friedman sat down with OPM Director Scott Kupor to hear his take on some of these new policies. Here's an excerpt of their conversation.
Scott Kupor 0:33 ↗
If we take a step back, the basic theory behind Policy/Career is this, which is, as we know, the executive branch has grown very, very significantly. And so the way ultimately the president, as the leader of the executive branch, affects his policy changes is, of course, to have the multitude of agencies that we do have today. If you look at the makeup of those agencies, there's roughly about 4,000 kind of people like me, which is people who are hired through the political process, obviously, who kind of circle in and out, obviously, based on the administration. And then there are literally, you know, 1.996 million other people who actually affect those policies. What Policy/Career recognizes is that there are many people who are, in fact, career employees, but they are actually in policymaking roles. So they are in a position to either, you know, kind of take what the president is doing and implement it in policy, or in some cases, you know, if they don't agree with that, they in theory could be in a position where they could thwart or impact the development of that area. So what Policy/Career does is it relies on kind of long-standing principles within the actual Civil Service Reform Act, which says that the president has the ability to ultimately kind of manage the employment of people who are in these roles. So what we've done is just where we are today, just so you know, is we have promulgated the policy. So that was promulgated roughly about 30 days ago. The policy will go into effect, I think it's like March 9th to March 10th. It's basically got a 30-day tolling period from what it was put in place. And the next step will be that the president will designate which of the roles across the various executive agencies will now be kind of in this Schedule Policy/Career. So importantly, what this means for us is this is about accountability, from my perspective. So this is not about political patronage. These are not roles that go through PA. So for those of you who are familiar with the political appointment process, we're not talking about changing either the hiring or removal of any of these positions. They will all be done through the traditional merit-based hiring career system. There are no changes to, you know, kind of same whistleblower protections apply. All the other things apply. The idea here is if you are in a policymaking position, the elected official ultimately who determines policy for the executive branch is the president. And therefore, you know, your job, and I think most federal employees know this, and certainly all the ones I've encountered have had no problem with this, which is your job is ultimately to affect lawful actions that the president determines are the appropriate objectives for the organization. And so all this does is say, great, like, that's your job. And if for whatever reason you choose to do something which, you know, kind of is not, you know, kind of in concert with or in fact is contradictory to the policies of the administration, as long as it's obviously a lawful policy, that you can't be in that role if you're not able to actually affect those policies. So that's what this does is really start to kind of, you know, basically codify what essentially has always been the practice of the executive branch, which is, you know, the ultimate role of the executive leaders and those organizations are to affect the policies that are determined by the, you know, popularly elected president.
Drew Friedman 3:30 ↗
And knowing that this is just, we're just a couple days away from the executive order and this actually really taking effect from that point on, what is OPM's role going to be in guiding agencies, and what are the first signs that you're going to see this change start to take?
Scott Kupor 3:45 ↗
Yeah. So the next immediate action, as I said, will be that the president has been reviewing basically all the agencies have contributed kind of the roles in their organization that they believe are responsive to Policy/Career. So that's a long list that the president and, you know, his team at the White House are going through. So the next instantiation of Policy/Career will be the president will issue an executive order that will determine, that will say, okay, these roles now are, you know, kind of under this Policy/Career. That's all that's going to happen. Those employees will get a notice of that basically, and so nothing else changes basically. All that is is people will say, great, now you have, you're, you know, now are under a different designation. And so again, you know, business will be as usual. But if again any of those individuals ultimately determines that they're, you know, unwilling or uninterested in pursuing the policies of the administration, of this administration, by the way, or any administration, it's not, this is not, you know, specific to anything that this president is doing, then, you know, they potentially could be removed, obviously, by people in that organization if they so choose.

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Kupor, S. (2026, March 13). OPM’s Kupor defends Schedule Policy/Career, as finalization nears [Interview transcript]. Federal News Network. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3019717/

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Scott Kupor. "OPM’s Kupor defends Schedule Policy/Career, as finalization nears." Federal News Network, 13 Mar. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3019717/.

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  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Federal News Network. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {mar},
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  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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