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Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Dave's Mind | David Letterman

📅 Dec 22, 2025 Letterman 23 MIN 237263 VIEWS 185 SEGMENTS · 6 SPEAKERS
It's the Barbara Gaines Show holiday spectacular with special guests Paul Shaffer and Oz the mentalist. #ozpearlman #mentalist #letterman Shop the Letterman Merch Store: https://worldwidepants.store Subscribe to Letterman: https://bit.ly/3GeOIAg Follow Letterman on Social: Facebook:   / davidletterman   Instagram:   / letterman   Twitter:   / letterman   TikTok:   / letterman   Welcome to the Letterman YouTube Channel, home to all your favorite clips from Late Night and Late Show - as well as conversations with the writers, producers and performers who helped make it all happen. And for...

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 4:02Can I interrupt you for a second here?
  2. 8:24What if you told him? Nobody knows this, right?
  3. 9:13You want me to tell you?
  4. 9:15You want me to tell you who it is?
  5. 18:01How recently was the toga party?
  6. 18:12What was it? What was the brand name?
  7. 21:51I don't know. Oh, is that the show?
  8. 22:29How about that, ladies and gentlemen?
Barbara Gaines 0:00 ↗
Hi, welcome to the Barbara Gaines Holiday Show. I'm Barbara Gaines. This is Mary Barclay. This is Dave Letterman.
Dave Letterman 0:05 ↗
Hi, holidayers. Nice to see you.
Barbara Gaines 0:07 ↗
Yes. Can I mention your shoes?
Dave Letterman 0:09 ↗
Oh, let me talk about these shoes. Do you have a minute? I do. These shoes, I wear them typically once a year. And if you guessed I did not pick these out, you would be correct.
Barbara Gaines 0:24 ↗
Oh, I should have saved that for the mentalist. Do people know he's here?
Dave Letterman 0:28 ↗
No, that's a surprise.
Barbara Gaines 0:30 ↗
Okay. All right.
Dave Letterman 0:31 ↗
These were a gift from like 10 or 20 years ago from my good friend John Witherspoon. And so I bring them out in memory of John, who is nothing but great, good fun and a great friend of mine.
Barbara Gaines 0:41 ↗
And stylish.
Dave Letterman 0:42 ↗
And stylish. Look at those bad boys. I don't even know how to describe them.
Barbara Gaines 0:45 ↗
Oh, and you look pretty good there.
Dave Letterman 0:47 ↗
And guess what? I've never seen anyone else wearing them.
Barbara Gaines 0:49 ↗
I would bet that's true.
Dave Letterman 0:51 ↗
Yeah. Okay. It's like something out of Santa's workshop.
Barbara Gaines 0:54 ↗
Kind of. Sort of. Right. Yeah, totally. Oh boy. I'm very excited about the show tonight.
Dave Letterman 0:58 ↗
Yeah, that's great.
Barbara Gaines 0:59 ↗
Let's bring out our first guest. Okay. Paul, where are you? Friend Paul Shaffer is here. Come on.
Paul Shaffer 1:04 ↗
Thank you. Yeah. Hi, Paul. Thank you very much. James, happy Christmas.
Barbara Gaines 1:10 ↗
Hi. Merry Christmas. Thank you.
Paul Shaffer 1:12 ↗
Hey, we should turn. You know, I was, I thought exactly these Witherspoon. You don't have, I was going to pull these on. I was going to wear them.
Barbara Gaines 1:19 ↗
I don't think even John Witherspoon.
Paul Shaffer 1:21 ↗
No, I don't really. I'm kidding. Good to see you.
Barbara Gaines 1:24 ↗
Great. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Everything well. To mention that we have a little bit of an audience today.
Paul Shaffer 1:29 ↗
Oh, yes. It's folks who come to the party.
Barbara Gaines 1:32 ↗
Yeah. And a few Uber drivers just waiting. Nice to have you here, kids.
Dave Letterman 1:37 ↗
I wish. And I don't have much experience going to parties for various reasons. But if I were to have more parties, I would want this group at every party.
Barbara Gaines 1:49 ↗
I agree. This is just about all I need.
Dave Letterman 1:52 ↗
I like these people. They're the best.
Barbara Gaines 1:54 ↗
They are well schooled at pretending to like you.
Dave Letterman 1:57 ↗
I feel at home 100%.
Barbara Gaines 1:59 ↗
Years of experience. And this show is exciting because of Paul and everybody else and our special guest. And because we're standing.
Dave Letterman 2:07 ↗
Yes, usually standing.
Barbara Gaines 2:08 ↗
Oh, and look at this. Now, you might think that's an actual fire. You'd be wrong. That's not an actual fire. I think with every holiday show, we always ask Paul to talk about...
Paul Shaffer 2:19 ↗
Oh, this is a tradition on the old show. And in 1973, you were home watching the Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour. I would love to tell this story. It's true. Sonny and Cher were still on in 1973, and they had a Christmas edition, a Christmas episode of their show, and their special guest. We have one today. Theirs was William Conrad, the actor. You remember he had a big network show? He was a cop who drove around in a car named Cannon. Big, heavyset, and he was gruff. Yeah. And he would arrest people driving around in his car. So there was a big long medley of Christmas music, and we, you know, we wish you a merry Christmas, and everybody, and it was a lot of laughs and a lot of fun. And then it was time to get serious, and Cher was going to do O Holy Night for real, you know, and it was a beautiful setting. She was under a street lamp, the snow was falling, her hands in a muff, and uh, thank you. I always get a good laugh on that. I'm never sure. Never sure what works. Yeah. Anyway, as the snow fell and the piano was playing the beautiful...
Barbara Gaines 3:41 ↗
Thank you very much. We can't get enough of that. Nice to do it again. Yeah. Thank you for bringing that. Thank you all.
Dave Letterman 3:48 ↗
Here's where on the old show I would drop in a zinger. How did that cataract surgery go, Paul?
Paul Shaffer 3:53 ↗
Ah, well, you know, I'm wearing my Christmas glasses.
Barbara Gaines 3:56 ↗
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have another special guest today. He is the most sought-after mentalist in the world. I want to just say...
Dave Letterman 4:02 ↗
Can I interrupt you for a second here? Yes. This guy is fantastic. I've seen many, many of his appearances. And in all candor, he's a mentalist. In all candor, I know how this works because if you know me, bring him on. No magic.
Barbara Gaines 4:17 ↗
He's the bestselling author of the book Read Your Mind. Welcome Oz Pearlman, known as Oz the Mentalist.
Oz Pearlman 4:27 ↗
Oz the Mentalist. Thank you. High five down the line. I also want you to know that when Barbara received my hospitality rider, she balked that there was only one item, but she was able to source the only thing that I request, which is a custom pillow of Don King with her face on it. They said it's the only thing that I need at show. This is your rider. Kudos for finding this for me. It was the only thing that got me here. This is a true collector's eye. You think I don't know? You think I don't know.
Barbara Gaines 4:56 ↗
We're so excited. And as I mentioned, these are the people I want at every party. I want you to come to every party I may have. I'm just thrilled. Now, I'll tell you a little bit about what you do, please. And I'll tell you why. When I lived in California, I spent a couple of years working for a man named Kreskin. I took care of his pool. And he's absolutely very serious about this.
Oz Pearlman 5:16 ↗
Wow. Yeah. I was Kreskin's pool boy. Let's go. Let's do something. Let's do something fun. Paul, let's ask you a question. Okay. Right. You walked in here earlier. I put you on the spot, Paul. I put you on the spot. I said, 'How many years was the show on?' And you were so lightning. Tell me, how many years were you on the show?
Paul Shaffer 5:31 ↗
33.
Oz Pearlman 5:32 ↗
33 years. Seen countless guests. Countless. And I say to you, you know, this is a great question. I like to ask everybody the same question. What if you could sit down to dinner, get back together? It could be a guest you've already had, dead or alive, or it could be somebody who's never even been a guest on the show. And I tell you right now, and notice, normally I have to see the eyes, the eyes are the window. So, I can't see anything with Paul right now.
Dave Letterman 5:57 ↗
You're getting no signs between his glasses and your ear hair. I'm screwed.
Paul Shaffer 6:03 ↗
I'll take them off if you'd like.
Oz Pearlman 6:05 ↗
No, no. Make it hard. This is, I got to earn the title of world's best mentalist.
Barbara Gaines 6:09 ↗
You are the world's best. I mean, I'm not saying...
Oz Pearlman 6:12 ↗
You said it. You said it. How many are there? There's like six. So, it's really... this is like the tallest little person. Half a dozen. Notice Paul is usually an uplifting spirit.
Barbara Gaines 6:25 ↗
Yes. Right.
Paul Shaffer 6:26 ↗
You give a little razzle-dazzle. He's my good friend in life and my good show business friend also.
Oz Pearlman 6:31 ↗
Yeah. But he's normally happy. He's cheerful, but he got sad. He got somber. I think your person has passed away. Am I right?
Paul Shaffer 6:37 ↗
You are correct.
Oz Pearlman 6:39 ↗
I use the energies. You're correct. No, no, no, no. Let's get something to write with. Let's get something to write with. Yeah. I'm very good at taking things that are big and impossible and breaking them down small. So, I want you... Now, notice the hands on the hips, right? That's always a guy-to-guy vibe.
Dave Letterman 6:53 ↗
100%. It's a guy.
Oz Pearlman 6:55 ↗
Is it a guy? It is a guy. Yeah. If it's a woman, most guys' hands in front of the crotch. I don't know why.
Dave Letterman 7:01 ↗
Oh, well, you're just being blues.
Oz Pearlman 7:03 ↗
No, no, that was, that's true. Okay. My show is squeaky clean. So you're picking up clues from me. I'm trying to get some clues. Body language. Yeah. Give me nothing. Don't even read. Yeah. Count how many letters are in his first name, but just to yourself. Okay. Now he said, 'Okay,' because he was done counting. Now, if you're counting the name Mary, four letters. Boom. It's quick. Barbara, that's a struggle. Seven letters, right? If the name is Michelle, it's like a million letters. You knew it. Not instantly, but quick. So, just like that, he showed me his poker hand. The name is either five or six letters. And now, when I see Paul give his little nod, it's five letters, isn't it?
Paul Shaffer 7:47 ↗
Yeah.
Oz Pearlman 7:48 ↗
Whoa. Do you play poker?
Paul Shaffer 7:50 ↗
No.
Oz Pearlman 7:51 ↗
Don't. I think that Paul went down a stroll on memory lane. And when I said it could be somebody in the show, it doesn't have to be. He said, 'No, I'm going to go with somebody who's been on the show.' I think this person's been on the show many times. I think that Paul is nostalgic. Now, I know who it is, too. Okay. I'm going to ask you.
Dave Letterman 8:09 ↗
Ask me.
Oz Pearlman 8:10 ↗
You want to ask me first?
Dave Letterman 8:11 ↗
I don't. No, I want to ask you if you think you know who it is.
Oz Pearlman 8:14 ↗
I do. Yes, I do. We didn't set this up. I didn't tell you to tell Dave. You didn't tell a soul. Is that correct?
Paul Shaffer 8:19 ↗
No, that is correct.
Oz Pearlman 8:20 ↗
You didn't write this on a piece of paper. You didn't whisper it in Walter Kim's ear.
Dave Letterman 8:24 ↗
This guy's sneaky. What if you told him? Nobody knows this, right?
Paul Shaffer 8:26 ↗
That's correct. I didn't tell anybody.
Oz Pearlman 8:28 ↗
The person, five letters. What do you think the last letter is of his first name? Just the last letter of his first name. Guess. What do you think the last letter? Guess.
Dave Letterman 8:37 ↗
Let me look at him wrong so I know.
Oz Pearlman 8:39 ↗
Wait a minute. How do you know it's wrong?
Dave Letterman 8:41 ↗
Because I wasn't nodding my head.
Oz Pearlman 8:43 ↗
Yeah. I'm going to go. I think this... I think your person... Oh, this is it. This is it. This is it.
Barbara Gaines 8:49 ↗
Don't say it. Don't say it, Dave. Don't say it, Dave.
Oz Pearlman 8:52 ↗
Can everyone see it? If you can see it, everybody say yeah. Over here. If you can see it, say yeah.
Barbara Gaines 8:58 ↗
Yeah.
Oz Pearlman 8:59 ↗
All right, Paul. You've not only seen him on the show, you've had a meal. You've had meals together. You remember him fondly. Who are you imagining at this very moment sitting down to dinner across from you? Who is it? Tell us. What's his name?
Paul Shaffer 9:13 ↗
You want me to tell you?
Oz Pearlman 9:14 ↗
Yes.
Paul Shaffer 9:15 ↗
Well, first of all, I got to say I don't know if I had many dinners with this gentleman. Could have been one. You want me to tell you who it is? Robin. Robin Williams. Robin Williams is who I went with.
Dave Letterman 9:30 ↗
I'm breathless. I don't know what to say. But as I agreed that I would, if you got this, I would donate my check back to the casino, and I didn't do that.
Oz Pearlman 9:42 ↗
Yes.
Dave Letterman 9:43 ↗
No, but in all seriousness, as a comic, I was amazed.
Oz Pearlman 9:47 ↗
Thank you. Wait, look at this crowd because baby's in on it. I'm watching. Trusted. I mean, he's a shill. He's in it. He's in on it, right?
Dave Letterman 9:55 ↗
He was Kreskin's pool boy, too. He stole the job from you.
Oz Pearlman 9:58 ↗
So, let's look in this crowd and everybody out there, the same question posed to you.
Dave Letterman 10:03 ↗
I like how a few people came in the middle.
Oz Pearlman 10:05 ↗
Everyone right now, can we turn the camera? Can we see them? Are we allowed to break the fourth wall? All of you out there... I like how this guy's texting during my show. He's like, 'Mentalist great, lol.' He goes, 'I'm with Letterman.' Yeah. I'm kidding. Everyone out there, raise your hand if you can picture your person. Raise a hand up. Let's see it now. Notice, notice. Come on, this guy's hand went up quick. She was ready before I asked. This woman is pretending I'm not even here. I like that energy. Right over here, the gentleman with the V-neck sweater who's also wearing a button-up. Also another shirt underneath. This is three layers. He's keeping the core warm. Tell us all your first name.
Mike 10:47 ↗
Mike.

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Pearlman, O. (2025, December 22). Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Dave's Mind | David Letterman [Interview transcript]. Letterman. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3082691/

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Oz Pearlman. "Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Dave's Mind | David Letterman." Letterman, 22 Dec. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3082691/.

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@misc{pearlman2025_3082691,
  author       = {Oz Pearlman},
  title        = {Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Dave's Mind | David Letterman},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Letterman. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {dec},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3082691/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}