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Debra Soh
Columnist and author; former sex researcher

The Real Reason Nobody Wants to Date Anymore

📅 May 06, 2026 Club Random Podcast 10 MIN 142636 VIEWS 28 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Bill Maher sits down with Dr. Debra Soh for a blunt conversation about modern dating, AI girlfriends,ncels, and why younger generations are having less sex than ever before. #BillMaher #DebraSoh #DatingCulture #AIgirlfriend #ClubRandom #ModernDating #GenZ #Manosphere #Podcast #SexRecession Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandomp... Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: https://billmaher.substack.com Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Buy Club Random Merch: https://clubrandom....

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  1. 3:01I mean, how can you marry up with this?
  2. 3:32But just basic things. Don't wear shorts, right?
  3. 4:12And that—I don't know what is—what's that term when guys like purposely kind of are mean to girls?
  4. 8:23Can they come and say I?
Debra Soh 0:04 ↗
The wild thing too is not just are people not having sex, but they take pride in it. And they're saying, like, women are saying, 'We don't need men. We're fine on our own.' And men are saying, 'The sex robots are coming. We have our AI girlfriends, so we don't need women either.' And so they're actually taking this like a point of pride instead of saying there's something really wrong going on here and we need to fix this problem.
Interviewer 0:24 ↗
Right. I mean, yeah, you're right. I mean, there were certainly always times when people didn't for whatever reason. I mean, if you had met me in high school or college, you'd have met, you know, I was not an—well, I guess I was what they would call an incel now, because incel stands for involuntarily celibate. It certainly was involuntary on my part. I didn't want to be celibate. But I certainly, maybe at the time not so much, but I think even then, certainly not that much later, understood that the reason why I wasn't getting laid was me. Today it seems like what goes on is this hostility that I'm not getting laid because you're a [__] or I'm not getting laid because you're a [__] loser. And that kind of hostility about it is, I think, a new dimension. Maybe you know the history—I'm sure you do—better than I.
Debra Soh 1:31 ↗
I think social media is a big part of it. But what's really good about, say, your situation is that you recognize there's something about you, or maybe that you wanted to work on things to attract the types of partners that you wanted to have. I mean, well, look at you now, right? I'm sure you have no issues at all. And whereas you look at the younger generation in particular, or I would say the men, when you come to the table with that type of animosity, women are definitely not going to want to be sleeping with you. And again, with women, if you're coming in and both sexes are blaming each other, that's not going to make people want to have sex with you, have a relationship with you. And then it's also not going to make you have the insight to say, 'What am I doing wrong here?' Instead, you're just going to keep doing the same thing. And then with social media feeding you this constant stream of content that is further polarizing the sexes, this is why I think it's gotten to the point where it is so bad. Then you have these replacements like you're mentioning—the sex robots, the sex dolls, the AI companions, pornography—and then women are doing so well in society economically that they're saying, 'Oh, I don't need a man either. I can just work and buy my own things.' I think, you know, that's great that women are doing so well, but another thing I talk about in the book is this issue with hypergamy and how that clashes with diversity initiatives.
Interviewer 2:38 ↗
Hypergamy.
Debra Soh 2:39 ↗
Yeah.
Interviewer 2:40 ↗
It's that women tend to like to marry up. Oh, hypergamy.
Yeah, I don't remember that word. That's funny. When they say when you don't know a word, you go past it. Once you learn it, then you see it like 10 times in the next week.
Debra Soh 2:58 ↗
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're going to be hearing it all the time now.
Interviewer 3:01 ↗
Hypergamy. That's a great word. So, marrying up. Well, yes. I mean, how can you marry up with this? I mean, look, I completely understand women's complaints about men today. I mean, I hear the complaints from women I know, you know. I mean, if someone says to me, 'What's your secret with women?' My answer is: other men. It's not hard to look better. I mean, these kids, they couldn't find the [__] with an app and they need one. I did a thing on this show—
Debra Soh 3:32 ↗
YouTube tutorial.
Interviewer 3:32 ↗
I did a TED talk, not a real one. No, it was a, you know, a bit we did, but I dressed, you know, just like they do with the sneakers, and it was really funny. And you know what? 'What if I told you'—because that's how they always start those—'What if I told you that you could get laid?' And then I was just instructing the younger men. Game—they don't have game. They don't know—they don't even know what it is. I don't know if they even aspire to it, you know. But just basic things. Don't wear shorts, right? You know, like—
Debra Soh 4:09 ↗
Iron your shirt.
Interviewer 4:11 ↗
That would be my—
Debra Soh 4:11 ↗
A collar.

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Soh, D. (2026, May 6). The Real Reason Nobody Wants to Date Anymore [Interview transcript]. Club Random Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3095360/

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Debra Soh. "The Real Reason Nobody Wants to Date Anymore." Club Random Podcast, 6 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3095360/.

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@misc{soh2026_3095360,
  author       = {Debra Soh},
  title        = {The Real Reason Nobody Wants to Date Anymore},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Club Random Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {may},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3095360/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}