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Debra Soh
Columnist and author; former sex researcher

Men Are Checking Out of Dating—Here's Why

📅 May 07, 2026 Club Random Podcast 9 MIN 345864 VIEWS 39 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Bill Maher and Debra Soh dive into why modern dating feels broken — from men “checking out” of ambition to the rise of AI relationships, porn culture, and the growing divide between men and women. #BillMaher #DebraSoh #ModernDating #DatingCrisis #ClubRandom #Masculinity #AIRelationships #Loneliness Subscribe to the Club Random YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/clubrandomp... Watch episodes ad-free – subscribe to Bill Maher’s Substack: https://billmaher.substack.com Subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you listen: ⁠https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Buy Club Random Merch: https://clu...

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  1. 2:16Is that because there's just nobody else?
  2. 3:51They're doing things where I they would just my mother would just [ __ ] kill me, you know?
  3. 4:44And you know your band is not you. Could it?
Debra Soh 0:00 ↗
When you see marriages in which women actually make more money than their husbands, there's a higher chance of divorce. There are all these other awful things that are associated with it that I discuss in the book.
Interviewer 0:08 ↗
Yeah. Like there's more and more common cheating on the male part.
Debra Soh 0:13 ↗
Yeah. No, it's becoming more common. One in seven marriages are actually women are primary bread winners now.
Interviewer 0:17 ↗
And also they're kicking ass in college in a way men are. Men have checked out.
Yeah. You know there's you talk about what's the word I don't know for like marrying up.
Debra Soh 0:28 ↗
Hypergamy.
Interviewer 0:29 ↗
Exactly. I was testing you. Um hypergamy which is the the square root of the hypotenuse by the way for kids who are watching this doing their geometry homework. No, hypergamy is um involved here because um the more men check out as far as academia, yeah, they graduate much less much fewer men now. Yeah. I mean, men are the ones who need affirmative action now in in in college.
Debra Soh 1:00 ↗
I mean, women can't find guys to marry up to.
Interviewer 1:05 ↗
Exactly. Uh there's a stat that we keep called the unemployed. But the definition of unemployed is you don't have a job, but you're looking for one. There's another stat which has I don't remember the number, but it's an astoundingly high number like 7 million. Yeah. That's not unemployed.
Debra Soh 1:25 ↗
It's not working and not looking.
Interviewer 1:29 ↗
Right.
Debra Soh 1:30 ↗
Not working and not looking. And it's something like seven million men in this country.
Interviewer 1:37 ↗
11 million unfiltered.
Debra Soh 1:38 ↗
Very content to stay home with the Xbox.
Interviewer 1:40 ↗
Yep.
Debra Soh 1:41 ↗
Yeah.
Interviewer 1:42 ↗
That's not attractive to a woman.
Debra Soh 1:44 ↗
No, women do like achievement. You know, they like, you know, it's and it's not just the money. It's also just feeling like this person has ambition. They're moving towards something. They have joy in their life. If you I imagine if you are sitting in front of a screen all day playing video games, online betting, you have no goals, you don't get, you know, dressed. Um I don't imagine some light to be very happy. And so if you're dating, I mean, someone like that's probably not even dating, but if they were, you don't really have as much to talk about.
Interviewer 2:16 ↗
But so many women are going out with guys like that. Is that because there's just nobody else?

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Soh, D. (2026, May 7). Men Are Checking Out of Dating—Here's Why [Interview transcript]. Club Random Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3134783/

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Debra Soh. "Men Are Checking Out of Dating—Here's Why." Club Random Podcast, 7 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3134783/.

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@misc{soh2026_3134783,
  author       = {Debra Soh},
  title        = {Men Are Checking Out of Dating—Here's Why},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Club Random Podcast. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {may},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3134783/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}