AI pioneer Yann LeCun tells Evident’s Alexandra Mousavizadeh that large language models remain limited in their ability to reason and plan in the physical world. He explains why he sees world models as a potential next paradigm, and why “we still don’t have domestic robots.”
He also shares how AMI Labs’ JEPA architecture predicts in an abstract representation space, ignoring unpredictable details – a prinicple he likened to finance, where data is “mostly noise with a little bit of information in it.”
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Yann LeCun, Executive Chairman, AMI Labs
Alexandra Mousavizadeh, Co-Founder & C...
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Yann LeCun, co-founder and executive chairman of AMI Labs, discussed the company's focus on building AI for the physical world, distinguishing it from LLMs. He noted AMI Labs raised about a billion dollars in seed funding, its largest seed round outside the US, and has around 65 employees. LeCun explained JEPA (Joint Embedding Predictive Architecture), a non-generative approach that learns abstract representations to make predictions, unlike LLMs which are 'completely incapable' of planning in the real world. He emphasized the Moravec paradox, highlighting that current AI excels at language but fails at real-world tasks like domestic robots or level five self-driving cars. LeCun cited a hierarchical world model paper published last week. On geopolitics, he said Asia, especially China, is catching up faster on world models and JEPA, while Silicon Valley is 'hypnotized by LLMs'. He said a long-term proof point is a humanoid robot performing tasks a 10-year-old can do without explicit training.
Key takeaways
AMI Labs raised about $1 billion in seed funding, the largest seed round outside the US, and has 65 employees.
LeCun said LLMs are 'completely incapable' of planning for the real world, a core motivation for JEPA.
He predicted success in various industries over the next year for AMI Labs' world-model approach.
China and Asian countries are catching up on JEPA and world models faster than Silicon Valley.
2:48And I know that you don't necessarily love that term, but again, to reach the next level of intelligence, can you talk to us a bit about what JEPA is, and sort of how that is going to help to reach the next level of intelligence?
6:09So what would be your proof points along the way that you're making progress?
17:10Is that the same in the JEPA scientific-type development?
Yeah. In the room, you will have the leaders in the big enterprises in financial services on the AI transformation journey. Everyone is working hard on the deployment side of things. You'll have many engineers and scientists as well. So, and I think everyone's very eager. We've spent most of the day up until now on everything from platform architecture to governance controls, harnesses, looking at sort of specific use cases in the demos, and so it's really brilliant to have you here now, only for 20 minutes, I know, to sort of step back, zoom out, and talk about what's on the horizon. So just to maybe start and kick off, would love to hear where you are with AMI Labs and JEPA, and what sort of, yeah, where you are sort of today, and of course would love to hear about the timeline for that, and many more questions, but if we start there.
Sure. So I'm actually calling you from AMI Labs. It's pronounced 'Ami' — you know, 'ami' as in friend in French. So AMI is actually a French company headquartered in Paris. We have two big offices in Paris and New York, and smaller offices in Montreal and Singapore. So we're really a global company. We started operations in March. We raised about a billion dollars in the seed round, which is the biggest seed round in history outside the US, I believe, as far as I know. And we have around 65 employees at the moment, and the whole company is based around the idea of building AI systems for the real world, for the physical world. You know, people have been calling this physical AI, if you want, and it's built around the idea of training world models. And maybe we can go into what we mean by world model, which is not necessarily the same thing as what other people mean by that. And things are progressing really well, and we're anticipating some success in various industries over the next year or so.
Over the next year, that's, yeah, maybe if you could talk to us about — obviously in the news there's a big discussion around reaching AGI, or I don't know if we call it superintelligence now, but or not. And I know that you don't necessarily love that term, but again, to reach the next level of intelligence, can you talk to us a bit about what JEPA is, and sort of how that is going to help to reach the next level of intelligence?
Right. So there is a mistake that people in AI and the periphery of AI have kept making for the last 70 years, and it's the mistake that if a machine can do a complex task, or a task identified by humans as intellectually complicated, that automatically this machine is smarter than humans, or perhaps has reached human intelligence, or perhaps superintelligence. And we know this is completely false, because we've had systems that are capable of solving equations, or computing integrals symbolically, or playing chess or Go better than humans. So we have computers that are superhuman in many different tasks, and the list keeps increasing thanks to recent progress in AI. But this does not mean that we are anywhere close to having machines that have the type of intelligence we observe in humans and animals, for that matter. And in fact, as it turns out, it's much simpler for machines in general, and for current AI approaches based on LLMs, to manipulate sequences of discrete symbols — human language, code, mathematics, and things of that type — rather than handling the real world. The real world is much more complicated. It's messy. It's not entirely predictable. It's continuous, high-dimensional, noisy. And it turns out the methods that have been so successful in the context of language, namely deep nets, actually do not work very well for the real world. And so you can see this in the fact that we have systems that can pass the bar exam and prove theorems and do all kinds of amazing feats, but we still don't have domestic robots. We don't even have level five self-driving cars. We certainly don't have self-driving cars that can learn to drive in a few hours of practice like any teenager. So there's a huge gap, and that gap has been known for a very long time. It's called the Moravec paradox — the fact that we can handle things like logical reasoning and mathematics and stuff like that with computers relatively easily, but not the real world. So we're trying to kind of bridge that gap with AMI Labs, coming up with new paradigms of AI, really, that would be capable of handling the messiness of the real world, if you will.
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LeCun, Y. (2026, October 27). Yann LeCun, AMI Labs | Evident AI Symposium 2026 [Interview transcript]. Evident Insights. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3141722/
MLA
Yann LeCun. "Yann LeCun, AMI Labs | Evident AI Symposium 2026." Evident Insights, 27 Oct. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3141722/.
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author = {Yann LeCun},
title = {Yann LeCun, AMI Labs | Evident AI Symposium 2026},
howpublished = {Interview transcript, Evident Insights. CEOInterviews.AI},
year = {2026},
month = {oct},
url = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3141722/},
note = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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